I tried to submit this story last week with a fearmonger headline about foreigners coming to AZ with heavily armed helicopters. I guess I fail at Fark.

Cybernetic: Question for British farkers:

The story refers to him as "Capt. Wales". Why is that? I thought the royal family's surname was Windsor (as in, "House of...").

Because Capt. Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderberg-Glucksberg wouldn't fit ?

And Ray Thompson, owner of Cactusnstuff, a "World Famous" souvenir shop, may have the perfect item for a royal heir who has everything: an 8-foot-tall rusty metal rooster sculpture.

I wonder if its the same metal chicken.

http://thebloggess.com/2011/06/and-thats-why-you-should-learn-to-pick - your-battles/

Awesome desert thereabouts. Really beautiful.

Desert Shrimp Fest? If they are anything like Rocky Mountain Oysters, I'd pass.

But then again, I didn't grow up with a lot British cuisine either.

Cybernetic: Question for British farkers:

The story refers to him as "Capt. Wales". Why is that? I thought the royal family's surname was Windsor (as in, "House of...").

It's because he's Prince of Wales. According to Wikipedia, he follows custom and uses the name of the territory over which his father holds title, i.e. Wales.

Oh, I'm not British (wish I was), but I was curious, too, so I just checked.

Been there, done this:

Cybernetic: The story refers to him as "Capt. Wales". Why is that? I thought the royal family's surname was Windsor (as in, "House of...").

His father is the Prince of Wales, (which only means he's next in line to the throne not that he's a leek eating rugby enthusiast). Seems like the royals have a choice of names they can go by, although there's probably some arcane protocol by which they must abide.

/Hope those guys enjoy long runs in stunning desert scenery on their time off because it sounds like there'd fark all else for them to do there.

Seriously, the desert around Gila bend is magnificent.



Hopefully this royal twit won't kill too many birds and snakes and lizards and wildflowers whilst playing warrior-prince. Perhaps they should do this training in the South of England, instead.

Old_Chief_Scott: I had only just begun to nod off when a gigantic freight train went by, headed west. From the sound of it there were four or five locomotives and a hundred or so cars and it was right across the damn street. Fifteen minutes later another goes by. Then another. And another. And they keep going by until the wee hours of the morning. Things got quiet for about an hour and then a parade of trains headed east started going by.

I spent a year living in an apartment in a similar location. Awful at first, but you don't notice em after a while.

For some reason, after reading that headline, all I could think of was...

The Aristocrats!

At the Best Western Space Age Lodge, which looks like a NASA flight about to take off, owners Duke and Carole Fox say they have a "king-sized room" awaiting the prince.

"King Sized room". Does that means there's a place to make coffee?

offmymeds: At the Best Western Space Age Lodge, which looks like a NASA flight about to take off, owners Duke and Carole Fox say they have a "king-sized room" awaiting the prince.

"King Sized room". Does that means there's a place to make coffee?

It's got free cable, HBO included.

canyoneer: Hopefully this royal twit won't kill too many birds and snakes and lizards and wildflowers whilst playing warrior-prince. Perhaps they should do this training in the South of England, instead.

Why is he a twit? For volunteering to go to Afghanistan again when he's probably in the top 10 of people who Al Qaeda would like to star in a snuff film? Why would the USAF move its Apache training centre to SE England?

The Envoy: Why is he a twit? For volunteering to go to Afghanistan again when he's probably in the top 10 of people who Al Qaeda would like to star in a snuff film? Why would the USAF move its Apache training centre to SE England?

I don't care about Wales, his helicopter, Afghanistan, the USAF, or Al Qaeda snuff films. All of that is transitory, temporary, insignificant...meaningless noise that will be forgotten...just another spastic episode in the pathetic pageant of human foolishness.

On the other hand, the desert is enigmatic, harsh, beautiful, and pure...the crucible of light, timelessness, and selfless consciousness. Undoubtedly, he'll learn nothing from it.

The Envoy: Why is he a twit? For volunteering to go to Afghanistan again when he's probably in the top 10 of people who Al Qaeda would like to star in a snuff film? Why would the USAF move its Apache training centre to SE England?
canyoneer: I don't care about Wales, his helicopter, Afghanistan, the USAF, or Al Qaeda snuff films. All of that is transitory, temporary, insignificant...meaningless noise that will be forgotten...just another spastic episode in the pathetic pageant of human foolishness.
On the other hand, the desert is enigmatic, harsh, beautiful, and pure...the crucible of light, timelessness, and selfless consciousness. Undoubtedly, he'll learn nothing from it.

No doubt it is, sounds lovely. But what's up with the sudden rant for no reason?
Were you under the impression Apache pilots blast flora and fauna for shiats and giggles? Why the bizarre outburst? Why the assertions about what he won't learn? Got some special insight into his psyche after having spent much time with him?

Old_Chief_Scott :It's OK, pal, the range area looks nothing like that. It looks more like Mars.

So you can rest easy.

radiumsoup: do you do parties?

Shame Washington didn't take the throne, then we wouldn't have to endure these endless debates.

Canyoneer: http://www.maggieandsam.com/_images/cards/front/Party_in_the_Desert_Fr ont_500x364.jpg

Excellent. Have them shaved and brought to my rooms.

"Gila Bend, AZ, "the fan belt capital of the world,"...

Fan belt capital? I don't get it. Explain please?

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Gila Bend, AZ, "the fan belt capital of the world,"...

Fan belt capital? I don't get it. Explain please?

Link (new window)

canyoneer: Undoubtedly, he'll learn nothing from it.

Sounds like you have some proof about this then. Go ahead, we'd love to see it. Were you this wound up by the thousands of American Apache pilots that completed the training prior to HRH? Or is it simply the fact that he's ginger and still more popular with women than you are?

The Envoy: Sounds like you have some proof about this then. Go ahead, we'd love to see it. Were you this wound up by the thousands of American Apache pilots that completed the training prior to HRH? Or is it simply the fact that he's ginger and still more popular with women than you are?

The investigative report on the recent crash of two German Air Force Jets near Carlsbad, New Mexico may never be made public. Although the collision occurred in airspace regulated by the FAA and during training sponsored by The U.S. Air Force, neither agency is involved in the investigation...Bottemiller differs with eyewitness reports that the aircraft were "playing" at the time of the crash. He states, "They were maneuvering in accordance with pre-briefed mission objectives as part of an air-to-air training program." The Marathon Indian Basin Gas Processing Plant was narrowly missed by one of the burning planes as it crashed into the ground. Personnel are still greatly concerned with the possibility of future crashes and speculating on what could have happened if the plane had hit the gas plant. Petroleum worker Wade Bennett remarked, "I don't know if the Germans or the USAF people realize what kind of an area they are in. Hydrogen sulfide gas is a product that is produced in certain oil and gas fields, including Indian Basin. It is contained within our production equipment and is harmless unless there is a breech of the containment such as a Tornado fighter-bomber crashing into it!" Luftwaffe Kommandeur Eckhard Sowada has "respectfully declined" to give further interviews since his statement that the investigation would be conducted by American and German officials. (new window)

And why not move the Apache training grounds to SE England? England is the 51st state, isn't it? England and America are joined at the hip, always help out in each other's wars, share all the secrets and purloined data they have with one another, and pursue a joint foreign/economic policy, don't they? And why not SE England? I'm sure they have air there in which helicopters and other wasteful military contraptions can fly, and plenty of room to blow sh*t up. What, are the estates and villages and farms of SE England too precious and worthy to be rocketed and splattered with twenty and thirty mike mike rounds? Surely the noise wouldn't disturb anyone, given that it's an anthill of people anyway - just move a few thousand out to some other nearby dank, overcrowded slum from the dank slum overcrowded slum in which they currently reside, clear a hundred square miles or so, and Bombs Away!

As a practical matter, it makes far more sense to use SE England for such puposes. After all, there is no wilderness there - the landscape is already completely destroyed and has been worked-over by hordes of humans for thousands of years. All the megafauna was extirpated centuries ago - there's nothing there worth saving at this point. Why, you can't plant a rose bush in SE England without turning up some old garbage...Roman coins, skeletons, smashed-up old Luftwaffe junk, Bronze Age latrines, bubonic plague victims, rubbish tips of various vintage, what-have-you. Why take perfectly good natural landscapes, almost-untouched and largely clean of human junk and screw them up with this kind of activity? Jebus, people have their priorities upside down...they don't think straight at all.

canyoneer: And why not move the Apache training grounds to SE England? England is the 51st state, isn't it? England and America are joined at the hip, always help out in each other's wars, share all the secrets and purloined data they have with one another, and pursue a joint foreign/economic policy, don't they? And why not SE England? I'm sure they have air there in which helicopters and other wasteful military contraptions can fly, and plenty of room to blow sh*t up. What, are the estates and villages and farms of SE England too precious and worthy to be rocketed and splattered with twenty and thirty mike mike rounds? Surely the noise wouldn't disturb anyone, given that it's an anthill of people anyway - just move a few thousand out to some other nearby dank, overcrowded slum from the dank slum overcrowded slum in which they currently reside, clear a hundred square miles or so, and Bombs Away!

As a practical matter, it makes far more sense to use SE England for such puposes. After all, there is no wilderness there - the landscape is already completely destroyed and has been worked-over by hordes of humans for thousands of years. All the megafauna was extirpated centuries ago - there's nothing there worth saving at this point. Why, you can't plant a rose bush in SE England without turning up some old garbage...Roman coins, skeletons, smashed-up old Luftwaffe junk, Bronze Age latrines, bubonic plague victims, rubbish tips of various vintage, what-have-you. Why take perfectly good natural landscapes, almost-untouched and largely clean of human junk and screw them up with this kind of activity? Jebus, people have their priorities upside down...they don't think straight at all.

You may as well ask why we don't do this in Manhattan.

JesseL: You may as well ask why we don't do this in Manhattan.

No, you meant to say "Long Island," or perhaps "Westchester County" to make the analogy, and there's no reason why not. Except perhaps some people with more money than sense would object to THEIR backyards being turned into bombing ranges. You know, the kind of people who would say the desert's worthless and only fit for such things. They would be wrong, of course, but we already knew that. Just look at where they live.

canyoneer: And why not move the Apache training grounds to SE England

English countryside.


Barry M. Goldwater Bombing Range.


One of these is a barren wasteland filled with scrub. The other is a beautiful pastoral scene out of a Constable painting; filled with houses, people, and livestock.
Is there really any doubt as to which one we can safely drop a few bombs on for shiats and giggles?

canyoneer: Seriously, the desert around Gila bend is magnificent.

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Hopefully this royal twit won't kill too many birds and snakes and lizards and wildflowers whilst playing warrior-prince. Perhaps they should do this training in the South of England, instead.

Wait, you actually think he's going to be bombing random parts of the desert instead of sticking to the bombing range?

JH3675: English countryside.
[files.sharenator.com image 640x480] Barry M. Goldwater Bombing Range. [farm6.static.flickr.com image 500x333] One of these is a barren wasteland filled with scrub. The other is a beautiful pastoral scene out of a Constable painting; filled with houses, people, and livestock. Is there really any doubt as to which one we can safely drop a few bombs on for shiats and giggles?

You're ignorant or pushing bullsh*t.


Already 50 per cent of the land in England is disturbed by noise, light and spoiled views from urban areas and major infrastructure, according to maps published by the Campaign to Protect Rural England. And if development continues at current rates, an area of undisturbed countryside the size of Greater London will be affected by urban intrusion every two years. The South East is all but disappearing under development, with 70 per cent of the region affected and the remaining 30 per cent set to be blighted in just 45 years under current rates of growth, say the CPRE. The region has lost 840 square miles of undisturbed land since the 1990s - an area larger than the county of West Sussex, according to their maps. (new window)

English countryside:



A large part of it could be easily bulldozed for bombing ranges. It's all crap anyway - large parts are rubbish tips, slums, motorways, chavs, pikey camps, brownfields, and assorted garbage development - sort of like New Jersey with an English accent.

But maybe you live in a fantasy world in which you are Heathcliff, riding your magnificent stallion across the lovely swards of Merry Olde England! Riding to the hounds in your red coat!

Fathead. That sh*t is gone forever. Might as well be a bombing range.

Oh, and f*ck you. Drop your bombs on your own backyard, asshole.

I wonder if he will be a licensed Apache pilot when he's done. In our military, it takes several years of training AFTER you receive your regular helicopter wings before your allowed to "ride the dragon"

canyoneer: But maybe you live in a fantasy world in which you are Heathcliff, riding your magnificent stallion across the lovely swards of Merry Olde England! Riding to the hounds in your red coat!

Fathead. That sh*t is gone forever. Might as well be a bombing range.

Canyoneer,

I know very well that the UK does not consist of a few large cities separated by endless miles of rolling farmlands; just as you know that no one is going to be strafing Joshua Tree or dropping JDAMs in Monument Valley. What really bothers me is that you just provided evidence, both written and photographic, that SE England supports a substantial amount of human life, yet in the same breath you advocate bulldozing it all just to save some lizards and wildflowers in Bumfark Arizona.

I get the whole loving nature thing, I love it too. I also love the desert, Death Valley is without a doubt the most beautiful place I have ever been. Where you and I differ is that I can quickly complete a "cost-benefit analysis" in my head, and arrive at a logical conclusion. Better to spoil a small amount of barely-habitable land that has little to no aesthetic or historical value, than to "bulldoze it all, it's already spoiled anyway.". While that may be true from a natural standpoint you yourself pointed out that it is an extremely important area for human habitation.

In conclusion. If you really,actually believe that we should bulldoze inhabited areas in order to save some lizards and wildflower, you are either ignorant or pushing a load of bullshiat.

P.S. Look up Eastern North Carolina gunnery ranges. That's my backyard.

canyoneer: DERP

Oh silly me, I forgot you were a mentally sub-standard weasel! That spiel is not proof that HRH will "undoubtedly" learn nothing. Your link managed to demonstrate an utter lack of comprehension of the question. That jealousy is obviously eating you up to the point where your diminshed brain can't cope.

As for the pics of English countryside, I know that learning from the Simpsons and spending your days in a subterranean wankatorium can cause a distorted view of reality. One would think (an alien concept to the dieased sludge oozing through your lumpen skull) that the image tagged "North London sprawl" couldn't be confused with countryside. Again though, I'm moving dangerously close to mocking the afflicted so I'll simply offer my condolences for you being a cretionous wanker. Now clean up your room:



Harv72b: The Envoy: Why would the USAF move its Apache training centre to SE England?

Why would the US Army let the Air Force train people in army helicopters?

Oops! Good point, well made.

JH3675: Canyoneer,

We got trolled by that well-known 'tard. Or he's actually as stupid as he appears. I simply have time on my hands so responded. He's likely sniffing his mum's pants right about now so is indisposed and won't reply.

offmymeds: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: "Gila Bend, AZ, "the fan belt capital of the world,"...

Fan belt capital? I don't get it. Explain please?

Link (new window)

Got it, thanx! :-)

canyoneer:

You're ignorant or pushing bullsh*t.


Already 50 per cent of the land in England is disturbed by noise, light and spoiled views from urban areas and major infrastructure, according to maps published by the Campaign to Protect Rural England. And if development continues at current rates, an area of undisturbed countryside the size of Greater London will be affected by urban intrusion every two years. The South East is all but disappearing under development, with 70 per cent of the region affected and the remaining 30 per cent set to be blighted in just 45 years under current rates of growth, say the CPRE. The region has lost 840 square miles of undisturbed land since the 1990s - an area larger than the county of West Sussex, according to their maps. (new window)

English countryside:

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A large part of it could be easily bulldozed for bombing ranges. It's all crap anyway - large parts are rubbish tips, slums, motorways, chavs, pikey camps, brownfields, and assorted garbage development - sort of like New Jersey with an English accent.

But maybe you live in a fantasy world in which you are Heathcliff, riding your magnificent stallion across the lovely swards of Merry Olde England! Riding to the hounds in your red coat!

Fathead. That sh*t is gone forever. Might as well be a bombing range.

Oh, and f*ck you. Drop your bombs on your own backyard, asshole.

Prince Charles is a farker?