And then the nerds have to live in a gym until basketball practice starts, so they make their own frat. I saw this movie.

So bring us some drunken Frat boys
So bring us some drunken Frat boys
So bring us some drunken Frat boys
And a couple of kegs

We won't puke until they get here
We won't puke until they get here
We won't puke until they get here
To do Jaeger bombs

won't go
won't go!
Won't Go!
WON'T GO!

Neighborhood revitalization ... one house at a time


Sadly

Fireball! Fireball! Fireball! Fireball!

/obsure

buckler: I wouldn't mind, if all the fratboys were inside as they burned.

That is not very nice and a very unkind thing to say.

It would also be acceptable if they were to make outside of the house and burned on the lawn as well.

It's not just frat houses that have fires.

csb

Back when I was in college. Well, the year before I got there, a fire was set in my dorm on the third floor. Seems like the hall asshole came home one night, really drunk. Some of his friends, stripped him naked, filled his room with TP to the point it was hanging out the window, all the way to the ground. Sometime later, he was awakened by a burn on his arm which was by the window. He got out of the room right before it completely went up in flames. Common belief is somebody walking by saw the TP and light it on fire.

The hall fire monitor was the first one out the door.

Four years later housing still hadn't fixed the room.

/csb

csb2

My daughter called us at 2:30am Saturday morning. Some girls on her floor had been nuking popcorn. Over-cooked it to the point the entire dorm was emptied out and the fire department came.

Alcohol is believed to be involved.

/csb2

Fratboys are always flaming anyway, why is anyone surprised at any of this?

Actually, the saying is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating", which means that it's the final result that counts. "The proof is in the pudding" just makes no sense if you think about it for even one second.

/pet peeve

I remember a dorm down the hall catching fire (slightly) when someone figured the best way to start making french fries was to put large frozen potato wedges into boiling oil. Amazingly, most the damage didn't come from the fire - it came from none of the staff or University Police knowing who had the key to the sprinkler shut-off. Things ran for about 40 minutes: hooray water damage.

/csb

unlikely: PIGGY PUDDING?

No. Figgy pudding. It has figs in it.


_{and bacon}

Talking Heads approve

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My friend and I were making latkas in the dorms when the oil caught fire. Doused the fire but there was smoke everywhere. We were terrified that the alarm would go off. In the heat of it all, I removed my shirt to fan it franticly all out. Good thing no one came in because I'm sure it would have been a comical, jiggly scene.

Also in college, some dumbass let his lamp fall on his bed and ignite a pillow. Then the idiot dumped the flaming pillow in a trash can. A drunk RA grabbed the trash can and ran it down 6 flights of stairs to throw it in the snow. I woke up to the acrid smell of burning plastic. If I get cancer later in life, I'll blame those chemicals I undoubtedly inhaled.


//csb

Gaylord Fister: Actually, the saying is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating", which means that it's the final result that counts. "The proof is in the pudding" just makes no sense if you think about it for even one second.

/pet peeve

Unless you're talking about somebody dropping a to-be-approved pamphlet into a dessert tray, then you're right.

Flaming Figgy Pudding.

Sounds like a shot. Or gay bar.

As a resident that lives across from a Catholic party school, I'm not getting a kick out of this. They aren't burning houses down, but the students have their parents buy entire houses($150k, multiple floor/bedroom) to trash while flouting occupany laws. They're worse than fraternity houses, even if nothing burns down.

Only recently has the suburb decided to oppose the university kids.


/Notre Dame didnt want these kids
//Neither do the residents around the university
///Keep out of our upscale suburb tyvm.

theMagni: Gaylord Fister: Actually, the saying is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating", which means that it's the final result that counts. "The proof is in the pudding" just makes no sense if you think about it for even one second.

/pet peeve

Unless you're talking about somebody dropping a to-be-approved pamphlet into a dessert tray, then you're right.

Google leads me to the existence of something called a "pudding shot."

CSB Time

The Betas had all the good drug connections at my school, so I hung out with a bunch of them quite often. Before we went to go see Pink Floyd's "Momentary Lapse Of Reason" tour, we loaded up on mushrooms & ecstasy (MX missiles) to enhance the experience (frighteningly intense light show hallucinations BTW.) When we returned to campus hours later after the show (mind you, this is before the age of cell phones) we discovered the local fire station dousing the remaining embers of what had been the Beta house. You would think that would have been a buzzkill, but these dudes managed to persevere, acquire a respectable amount of cocaine, and turn the event into a 2-3 day party. Pretty savage.

The year after I graduated, my neighboring FIJI house burned down. In the same way that tornadoes favor trailer parks, fires seem have a similar affection for old frat houses.

JFC, people. Risk management is not that difficult!

If your chapter's alumni organization sucks, ask the university for help (try the Greek dean first, they may have a better in with EHS). No school wants to see their kids die.

/alumni corp prez
//my kids pass fire inspection every semester.

I live in a college town (I don't work for the University though), so I'm getting a kick, etc.

Townies who complain about college students are like the idiots who buy a house next to a hog farm and complain about the smell. Or the other idiots who move next to an airport and biatch about airplane noise. They're worse, actually, because those idiots don't depend on the hog farmers or the airports for their financial security. Bizarrely enough, it's employees of the University who complain the most. Don't like the students? Get a job in the private sector and move to a different town.

Those drunken college students are the reason college towns enjoy a higher standard of living, better property values, higher average wages, and lower unemployment than similar sized towns elsewhere in the US. Instead of getting upset about them puking in their ornamental urns (something that really happens in my town because for some reason giant ornamental cement urns is a popular architectural embellishment), they should be putting more urns out and writing "puke here! We appreciate the money you bring to our town!" on them.

Between DUIs, citations for public intoxication, citations for public urination, citations for noise violations, etc. the student population probably pays a third of the police force's salary base. OK, I made the 1/3 figure up, but I'm pretty sure it's a LOT based on how many of those citations I see in the police blotter every week. And between alcohol poisoning, random "hold my beer and watch this" injuries, and the like, we wouldn't have a class 2 trauma center in town. If anything, we should be making them drink MORE so they do more stupid things, get arrested more often and generate more revenue.

So go ahead and complain about college students. Complain until they make the perfect university town: one without any students. Then see how it goes for your property values and watch what happens to all those cool kitschy stores they have downtown. Oh, and your high six figure tenured professorship? Yeah, that's gone too. And without all the free labor (oops, I mean research assistants), good luck on getting that federal grant for "Investigations into the Modality of Interphase Axiom Transliteration in Social Manifestations of the Origami Mythos."

Dumbasses. Go live somewhere else and complain about whatever you find there. Let me go hose out my ornamental urn and thank God for the University keeping my neighbors employed and my property value from dropping.

tillerman35

It's worse than that. This is a long established neighborhood right next to the University, with local bars and commercial properties almost exclusively catering to Tulane and Loyola. Hell, even without the frat houses, most of the renters are college kids. Despite this, they keep trying to shut everything down, and get pissed when the students who outnumber them and the businesses keep working around them.

It's just sad.

That said, some of those frat houses were complete dumps. The DG house seemed to be getting condemned every other week before it finally went up. I don't think Loyola even allows frat houses anymore after the shiat that was going down there.

One inspection a year for the Tulane houses is not nearly enough.

/It's a shame. Red tide was fun.

tillerman35: Townies who complain about college students are like the idiots who buy a house next to a hog farm and complain about the smell. Or the other idiots who move next to an airport and biatch about airplane noise. They're worse, actually, because those idiots don't depend on the hog farmers or the airports for their financial security. Bizarrely enough, it's employees of the University who complain the most. Don't like the students? Get a job in the private sector and move to a different town.

The problem is that the people complaining were there when the university wasn't on their doorstep. In my case, it was a large manufacturer and developer of cash registers/computers/databases that employed tons of people. Once said company left, the university kids couldnt keep their burning couches or desires to steal signs inside the campus. Now they want to take over a good suburb and turn it into a huge line of badly-kept frathouses.

In short, things are worse for the presence of these students.

tillerman35: Those drunken college students are the reason college towns enjoy a higher standard of living, better property values, higher average wages, and lower unemployment than similar sized towns elsewhere in the US. Instead of getting upset about them puking in their ornamental urns (something that really happens in my town because for some reason giant ornamental cement urns is a popular architectural embellishment), they should be putting more urns out and writing "puke here! We appreciate the money you bring to our town!" on them.

Except that the unemployment is worse for the people that aren't from the university. The jobs go to the university students that, in turn, hire their university friends at the exclusion of everyone else. Same thing happens with the jobs in the area that are connected with the university - except with alumni.

Get rid of the university, put in a large employer that actually gives a fark about the people in the area, and problems will be solved.


/I love the sight of university parties shutdown for noise violations
//DIAF, University of Dayton

Because the fraternity houses are privately owned, Tulane is limited in what it can do, said Mike Hogg, Tulane University's vice president for student affairs.

Uh... what would the University do? All they do right now is sanction the frat's little club. The house is privately owned. It's not on University property. Unless I'm mistaken, it's not a University sponsored club or anything... Why would they feel any obligation towards the frat to begin with?

All that said, why does the frat even need to be sanctioned by the University? They're a private organization on private property with no real affiliation with the school other than that the members happen to be students.

Honest Bender: All that said, why does the frat even need to be sanctioned by the University? They're a private organization on private property with no real affiliation with the school other than that the members happen to be students.

If they want to do anything on the private school's private property, including flyering to advertise for their parties, recruit on campus, or hold social functions utilizing school facilities, they'll play ball. Sometimes frats go rogue, but few thrive in that situation, especially with the cuthroat competition.

Hell, in the case of ADG at Loyola, since it's a private school that *could* impose a dress code on students, they weren't even allowed to wear their logo on campus for a time.

/They got around it in a relatively clever way. AmDG.

Honest Bender: Because the fraternity houses are privately owned, Tulane is limited in what it can do, said Mike Hogg, Tulane University's vice president for student affairs.

Uh... what would the University do? All they do right now is sanction the frat's little club. The house is privately owned. It's not on University property. Unless I'm mistaken, it's not a University sponsored club or anything... Why would they feel any obligation towards the frat to begin with?

All that said, why does the frat even need to be sanctioned by the University? They're a private organization on private property with no real affiliation with the school other than that the members happen to be students.

Well in NZ we don't have these stupid fraternity things. Our friends can enable our self-destruction without the homosexual hazing and membership fees.

But all university students are bound by a code of conduct, regardless of where they are and what they're doing. Whilst most students live in private flats 'off campus', their behaviour in those private properties still can't make the university look bad. The codes of conduct states they can't engage in actions that are disruptive to the local community, or can be expected to result in damage to property. They can get disciplinary action (including fines or expulsion).

They don't have to let you stay in their school, and why should they let you if you're just going to drag the school's name through a pile of shiat? I'm actually surprised given the way America is that the schools aren't tossing these kids out right away. They got your money already after all so why should the indulge your inability to act like a considerate human being?

if_i_really_have_to: They don't have to let you stay in their school, and why should they let you if you're just going to drag the school's name through a pile of shiat? I'm actually surprised given the way America is that the schools aren't tossing these kids out right away. They got your money already after all so why should the indulge your inability to act like a considerate human being?

The university has not obtained all of the available money though. This semester, sure. Next semester though, next year, they need that too. Throwing a person out of school, regardless of behavior or intelligence means the university can't get more that sweet government-backed student loan money.

Jensaarai: tillerman35

It's worse than that. This is a long established neighborhood right next to the University, with local bars and commercial properties almost exclusively catering to Tulane and Loyola. Hell, even without the frat houses, most of the renters are college kids. Despite this, they keep trying to shut everything down, and get pissed when the students who outnumber them and the businesses keep working around them.

It's just sad.

That said, some of those frat houses were complete dumps. The DG house seemed to be getting condemned every other week before it finally went up. I don't think Loyola even allows frat houses anymore after the shiat that was going down there.

One inspection a year for the Tulane houses is not nearly enough.

/It's a shame. Red tide was fun.

I lived in one of the Tulane fraternity houses on Broadway for three years and it was a flaming death trap waiting to happen. No smoke alarms, the fire alarm was used only to announce when we signed a new pledge and the only fire escape would have allowed 8 people to survive any kind of major fire. It wasn't too far of a drop to the ground, so escaping through bedroom windows would have been easy. The first floor windows got security bars some time back in the 90s, making it even more dangerous.

lives in nola and surrounding areas...

this is like the 6th house to go up in the past few years... not surprising as many of the frat row residents drink as a sport... and when these houses "go up" they really go up something fierce....total losses for sure...

hopefully insured, and no one got hurt.

who dat!

Honest Bender: Because the fraternity houses are privately owned, Tulane is limited in what it can do, said Mike Hogg, Tulane University's vice president for student affairs.

Uh... what would the University do? All they do right now is sanction the frat's little club. The house is privately owned. It's not on University property. Unless I'm mistaken, it's not a University sponsored club or anything... Why would they feel any obligation towards the frat to begin with?

All that said, why does the frat even need to be sanctioned by the University? They're a private organization on private property with no real affiliation with the school other than that the members happen to be students.

There are a few issues, the main one being the charter. Almost all fraternities are members of a national fraternity, which has the power to revoke the local chapter's charter. Staying in good standing with the national organization almost always includes remaining in good standing with the school.

Another issue is insurance. Normally, the insurance for a private building where a large group of college students are living would be prohibitively expensive.

Is the Mushroom ok?

/it's worth the trip

I thought it was "putting"...but maybe I overlooked something.

This one i think may have just been faulty NO wiring....but I remember watching the weed dealers frat house burn down....like three weeks after two others had. Those couple of fires all together seemed to me like arson central. And why not? It was PKNO....anything went.

tillerman35: I live in a college town (I don't work for the University though), so I'm getting a kick, etc.

Townies who complain about college students are like the idiots who buy a house next to a hog farm and complain about the smell. Or the other idiots who move next to an airport and biatch about airplane noise. They're worse, actually, because those idiots don't depend on the hog farmers or the airports for their financial security. Bizarrely enough, it's employees of the University who complain the most. Don't like the students? Get a job in the private sector and move to a different town.

Those drunken college students are the reason college towns enjoy a higher standard of living, better property values, higher average wages, and lower unemployment than similar sized towns elsewhere in the US. Instead of getting upset about them puking in their ornamental urns (something that really happens in my town because for some reason giant ornamental cement urns is a popular architectural embellishment), they should be putting more urns out and writing "puke here! We appreciate the money you bring to our town!" on them.

Between DUIs, citations for public intoxication, citations for public urination, citations for noise violations, etc. the student population probably pays a third of the police force's salary base. OK, I made the 1/3 figure up, but I'm pretty sure it's a LOT based on how many of those citations I see in the police blotter every week. And between alcohol poisoning, random "hold my beer and watch this" injuries, and the like, we wouldn't have a class 2 trauma center in town. If anything, we should be making them drink MORE so they do more stupid things, get arrested more often and generate more revenue.

So go ahead and complain about college students. Complain until they make the perfect university town: one without any students. Then see how it goes for your property values and watch what happens to all those cool kitschy stores they have downtown. Oh, and your high six figure tenured professorship? Yeah, that's gone too. And without all the free labor (oops, I mean research assistants), good luck on getting that federal grant for "Investigations into the Modality of Interphase Axiom Transliteration in Social Manifestations of the Origami Mythos."

Dumbasses. Go live somewhere else and complain about whatever you find there. Let me go hose out my ornamental urn and thank God for the University keeping my neighbors employed and my property value from dropping.

You sound constipated, fratty.

John Buck 41: The correct term is 'fraternity'. You don't call a country club a 'coont'. Or do you, subby?

The only douchebag on my freshman dorm floor - i.e., the one who joined a frat - used a variation on that line. You don't call your country a coont, do you?

FrancoFile: John Buck 41: The correct term is 'fraternity'. You don't call a country club a 'coont'. Or do you, subby?

The only douchebag on my freshman dorm floor - i.e., the one who joined a frat - used a variation on that line. You don't call your country a coont, do you?

Easy reply is easy: "I still have a bit of respect left for my country."