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2011-10-12 10:17:25 AM
How about you get a partnership agreement? Will that work for you?

No? Then your proposal is not a very good one, is it?
 
2011-10-12 11:12:23 AM
Will they have to sign a partnership agreement contract?
 
2011-10-12 11:13:05 AM
Instead of "married", you can be "butt-buddies".
 
2011-10-12 11:13:14 AM
FTFA: Mitt Romney tolerates your decision to pursue a same-gender personal merger, non-heterosexual citizen. Romney, his female contractual partner, and their independent subsidiary offspring enjoy friendship-based personal contact with many similarly romantically situated entities. Please consider contributing your support as an American representative democracy shareholder to his campaign.

Heh.

Also, WTF.
 
2011-10-12 11:13:14 AM
I still don't know if he thinks anal sex is OK.
 
2011-10-12 11:14:05 AM
I can see no problems arising from giving same-sex couples a separate-but-equal institution comparable to heterosexual marriage.

None whatsoever.

Nothing can possiblie go wrong.
 
2011-10-12 11:14:19 AM
So will this partnership agreement allow them to meet up with each other on another planet after they die like you get to do with your wife Mitt?
 
2011-10-12 11:14:22 AM
Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband?

Affirmative.

Do you concur?

Affirmative.

Co-joinment complete. You may co-habitate freely...
 
2011-10-12 11:14:54 AM
The GOP/Tea Party have no claim on civil liberties until they come around on gay rights

None.
 
2011-10-12 11:15:30 AM
If the religious types don't like same-sex couples using "marriage" to describe their relationship, then we all should use a different word for it.

Like communion.
 
2011-10-12 11:15:32 AM
Jim Olmeyer: Hello! We're your neighbors from two doors down and we just wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood!
[hands the Colonel a gift basket]
Jim "JB" Berkely: Everything's from our garden, except for the pasta.
Jim Olmeyer: Yes, it's from Fizzoli's, it's amazingly fresh, you just pop it in water and it's done! I'm Jim Olmeyer.
[shakes the Colonel's hand]
Jim Olmeyer: And this is my partner Jim.
Jim "JB" Berkely: Jim Berkely, but people call me J.B.
[extends his hand to shake]
Colonel Frank Fitts: Ah, let's just cut to it, what are you selling?
Jim Olmeyer: Nothing, we just wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood.
Colonel Frank Fitts: You said you're partners, so, uh what's your business?
Jim Olmeyer: Well, he's a tax attorney.
Jim "JB" Berkely: And he's an anesthesiologist.
- American Beauty (1999), stolen from IMDB


Do we get our own business cards? Can we incorporate in any state we want? Do I finally get the corporate discount at Costco? How about the ceremony? Do we just go to the Chamber of Commerce? If we get married, is it a business expense? Are wedding gifts tax deductible? What's the depreciation on my cats, Thor Batman and Delenn Janeway*. Is there payroll tax? If I find him stealing pens, can I fire him or dock his pay? If he steals food from the fridge, can I fire him? Do we have to close on holidays? Does my fiscal year have to be the same as a calendar year? I've been using Quicken for years, but will I need to start using IFRS instead of GAAP? If we split up, do we need a bankruptcy lawyer? Do I need some kind of HR policy? Do I have to go through termination procedures if I don't live in a "right to work state"? We have pictures of our families in the living room, will I have to get one of those laminated posters?

I'm waiting, Willard.


*not their real names
 
2011-10-12 11:17:18 AM
We already have this - its called "marriage".
 
2011-10-12 11:19:21 AM
bravian: We already have this - its called "marriage".

Whoa let's not tarnish the legitimate marriages of god's ordained straight people now.
 
2011-10-12 11:19:32 AM
Mitt Romney introduces "clap of you believe" legislation to save Tinkerbell.
 
2011-10-12 11:20:03 AM
WTF is the big issue with gay marriage?

It's just a farking word and a legal contract; it's nothing special.

They are not going to show up at your church and demand a priest put down the altar boy and perform a ceremony...
 
2011-10-12 11:20:27 AM
I'm with Mitt. It's separate sure but it's equal and there's nothing wrong with that at all. That's how our government is supposed to be run.
 
2011-10-12 11:20:28 AM
Look. As someone who celebrates their 10th anniversary tomorrow, which is probably going to entail running the kids around to their various extracurricular activities and a quick dinner, instead of going back to Mexico like we planned during our honeymoon, I could care less if 2 people, regardless if they are the same gender, get married.

If they decide to adopt/foster some kids, they can have the same no life the wife and I have.

Can't we get over this already?

/wife and I biologically can't have kids, does that disqualify our marriage, too?
//fostering is so hard and so awesome at the same time.
 
2011-10-12 11:21:21 AM
bravian: We already have this - its called "marriage".

Precisely, the historical and traditional "marriage" isn't some sort of church or government regulated arrangement between two people. Traditionally, it's just two (or more) people who decided to hold themselves out to be married and live as a married couple.
 
2011-10-12 11:21:40 AM
Can we take either an active or passive role in these partnerships?
Do we have to name a managing partner?
Can we pass-through the partnership taxes?


/taking "corporations are people" to a whole new level
//partnerships for everyone
 
2011-10-12 11:23:21 AM
Petey4335: /wife and I biologically can't have kids, does that disqualify our marriage, too?

Yes, you have to get a "Co-habitation Agreement Between Infertile Persons Agreement".
 
2011-10-12 11:24:40 AM
I'm pleased to see even Republicans come around to the idea that yes, gay couples do deserve some sort of legal recognition for all sorts of practical reasons. It's not full equality, but it's more than they get in a lot of this country.

It's not, y'know, equality under the law, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

/Or we could just let them marry. Worked fine in Massachusetts. If some churches want to whine, remind them that civil marriage is separate from religious marriage and they don't have to conduct the ceremony. And, y'know, it lives up to the promise of this country that all men are created equal.
 
2011-10-12 11:26:46 AM
Suits me, as long as the same thing applies to everyone. Oh, wait, it doesn't? Straight people can still get married? Then fark you, Romney.
 
2011-10-12 11:27:28 AM
[gay and straight protesters get a hearing from the Governor of South Park on gay marriage]
Governor: I believe that I might have come up with a compromise to this whole problem that will make everyone happy! People in the gay community want the same rights as married couples, but dissenters don't want the word "marriage" corrupted. So how about we let gay people get married, but call it something else?
[everyone listens quietly]
Governor: You homosexuals will have all the exact same rights as married couples, but, instead of referring to you as "married", you can be... butt buddies.
[long silence]
Governor: Instead of being "man and wife", you'll be... butt buddies. You won't be "betrothed", you'll be...
[makes quote with his fingers]
Governor: ...butt buddies. Get it? Instead of a "bride and groom", you'd be...
[makes quote with his fingers again]
Governor: ...butt buddies.
Mr. Slave: We wanna be treated equally!
Governor: You *are* equal. It's just that, instead of getting engaged, you would be... butt buddies. And everyone is happy!
Woman: [from the lesbian crowd] Well, what about lesbians?
Governor: Well, like anyone cares about f**kin' dykes!
[the crowd goes into an uproar]
Governor: [embarrassed] Oh, God, I was sure that would work.
 
2011-10-12 11:27:41 AM
itsdan: Petey4335: /wife and I biologically can't have kids, does that disqualify our marriage, too?

Yes, you have to get a "Co-habitation Agreement Between Infertile Persons Agreement".


Problem is, we didn't know that before we got married... so we'd have to do even more stupid paperwork?
 
2011-10-12 11:27:56 AM
"Partnership agreements" based on a sexual relationship are generally against public policy in most states as are akin to prostitution . I don't see this working out. If states pass this, it would validate pretty much every other thinkable use for such a contract.
 
2011-10-12 11:28:00 AM
You know, if the Republicans had gotten behind the idea of domestic partnerships about 15 years ago, they could have probably gotten that idea to stick as a compromise position, especially since a lot of gay advocates, at the time, were convinced that that was the only viable option.

But they dug in their heels and, as a consequence, the gay community moved on to advocating for marriage rights... and they got the momentum of the country on their side.

So it's a bit late for Romney to come around and say, "Hey guys, why don't we compromise?"
 
2011-10-12 11:32:48 AM
Macinfarker

I think a few states already have domestic partnership agreements, actually. Maine and California, off the top of my head. And I have no idea what you mean about them being "based on a sexual relationship" - you have as much right to enter them if you're asexual as if you're a nymphomaniac, you just need a willing partner.
 
2011-10-12 11:33:17 AM
Petey4335: Problem is, we didn't know that before we got married... so we'd have to do even more stupid paperwork?

Takes about a day at the DMV. It's more romantic than it sounds.
 
2011-10-12 11:37:00 AM
Macinfarker: "Partnership agreements" based on a sexual relationship are generally against public policy in most states as are akin to prostitution . I don't see this working out. If states pass this, it would validate pretty much every other thinkable use for such a contract.

"Hey baby, how much for a party?"
"Three years of joint tax filings."
"Cut it to two years, and hop on in."
 
2011-10-12 11:39:05 AM
"Romney's history with gay marriage every major issue has been a bit all-over-the-place"

Fixed that one for the author.

If you need any other sign of just how pathetic the Republican field is, look at the fact that not a single one of Mitt's opponents has been able to take him to task for Governor Romney having very different positions on the issues than Presidential Candidate Romney.
 
2011-10-12 11:40:54 AM
bravian: We already have this - its called "marriage".

Oh I don't know - I still say gay lunch sounds pretty intriguing. Also gay parking.
 
2011-10-12 11:43:39 AM
Isn't that what a marriage is already, in the eyes of the state? Why not just use the format that's already available, and thus, skip the process of creating an entirely new one?
 
2011-10-12 11:46:06 AM
Cletus C.: I still don't know if he thinks anal sex is OK.

Mormons don't even like oral or use of contraceptives
Link (new window)
 
2011-10-12 11:46:38 AM
pwhp_67: WTF is the big issue with gay marriage?

It's just a farking word and a legal contract; it's nothing special.

They are not going to show up at your church and demand a priest put down the altar boy and perform a ceremony...


Look, they are losing hard on this issue. If they stop pumping fear into the masses they'll never alleviate the curse of this sinful lifestyle before their supposed judgement day.
 
2011-10-12 11:49:23 AM
Copperbelly watersnake: If you need any other sign of just how pathetic the Republican field is, look at the fact that not a single one of Mitt's opponents has been able to take him to task for Governor Romney having very different positions on the issues than Presidential Candidate Romney.

If you mean they haven't done it, you're wrong. Link (new window)

If you mean they haven't done it effectively, you have to remember, we're not exactly talking about the country's intellectual elite here. Same Link (new window)
 
2011-10-12 11:52:06 AM
At least he's proposing SOMETHING. The rest of the derp brigade is unequivocally against it in any way whatsoever.

Hell, even Obama says it's a "states rights" issue.
 
2011-10-12 11:53:09 AM
Here comes Mitt-man straddling the fence like a silly dolt. Who does he think he is, Obama?
 
2011-10-12 11:53:13 AM
Zerochance: Hell, even Obama says it's a "states rights" issue.

Kinda what you'd expect from a center-right person, and yet he's still claimed by many to be the libbiest lib that ever libbed!
 
2011-10-12 11:54:57 AM
Your partnership agreement invalidates my marriage before god. He's going to send locusts again.
 
2011-10-12 11:59:02 AM
AcneVulgaris: Your partnership agreement invalidates my marriage before god. He's going to send locusts again.

Gay locusts, in little leather chaps.
 
2011-10-12 12:03:07 PM
PainInTheASP: If the religious types don't like same-sex couples using "marriage" to describe their relationship, then we all should use a different word for it.

Like communion suffering.


FTFY.
 
2011-10-12 12:04:10 PM
Quasar: AcneVulgaris: Your partnership agreement invalidates my marriage before god. He's going to send locusts again.

Gay locusts, in little leather chaps.


fap fap fap...
 
2011-10-12 12:05:05 PM
PainInTheASP: If the religious types don't like same-sex couples using "marriage" to describe their relationship, then we all should use a different word for it.

Like communion.


"They can have communion rights, sure, but the eucharist is only between a man and a woman."
 
2011-10-12 12:06:35 PM
Zerochance: At least he's proposing SOMETHING. The rest of the derp brigade is unequivocally against it in any way whatsoever.

Hell, even Obama says it's a "states rights" issue.



Because it is?


A marriage license is a document issued, either by a church or state authority, authorizing a couple to marry.
 
2011-10-12 12:16:15 PM
pwhp_67: Zerochance: At least he's proposing SOMETHING. The rest of the derp brigade is unequivocally against it in any way whatsoever.

Hell, even Obama says it's a "states rights" issue.


Because it is?


A marriage license is a document issued, either by a church or state authority, authorizing a couple to marry.


Churches issue marriage licenses?
 
2011-10-12 12:20:41 PM
spongeboob: pwhp_67: Zerochance: At least he's proposing SOMETHING. The rest of the derp brigade is unequivocally against it in any way whatsoever.

Hell, even Obama says it's a "states rights" issue.


Because it is?


A marriage license is a document issued, either by a church or state authority, authorizing a couple to marry.

Churches issue marriage licenses?



Yeah, and then you file it with a clerk. States keep the records and do the validation.


Marriage licenses in the United States fall under provincial jurisdiction but are recognized across the country. Additional work is required to obtain the licenses when citizens from multiple states are being married. In any case, the state in which they are married holds the record of that marriage. Traditionally, law working with law enforcement was the only means of searching and accessing marriage license information across state lines
 
2011-10-12 12:21:43 PM
It's not 'gay marriage', it's just marriage.

Equal. Nothing less.

Do folks get "gay arrested"? Do they have "gay breakfast"? Do they serve in the "gay police" or the "gay fire department"? It's about equality under the law. It's about the right to privacy. It's about freedom of religion. All things that good Conservatives SHOULD be standing for, and that so many are trying to distance themselves from the issue makes this Republican ashamed of the part and these candidates, with few exceptions...
 
2011-10-12 12:30:09 PM
I usually don't care for headlines ripped straight from TFA, but that one was good.



I think the best test for any "alternative" to marriage is if the person proposing it would accept it for themselves.
 
2011-10-12 12:46:39 PM
pwhp_67: Yeah, and then you file it with a clerk. States keep the records and do the validation.


Marriage licenses in the United States fall under provincial jurisdiction but are recognized across the country. Additional work is required to obtain the licenses when citizens from multiple states are being married. In any case, the state in which they are married holds the record of that marriage. Traditionally, law working with law enforcement was the only means of searching and accessing marriage license information across state lines


Well no. A priest may be authorized to sign the document just like a judge, ship captain, or (like in florida) notary public. But it isn't an issuing authority. And the federal authorities have stepped in from time to time on the issue - as in ruling that laws outlawing couples of different races from getting married is unconstitutional.
 
2011-10-12 12:47:53 PM
hubiestubert: Do folks get "gay arrested"? Do they have "gay breakfast"? Do they serve in the "gay police" or the "gay fire department"?

Yes. Its called brunch.

/and gay police and gay fire department would be totally hot
 
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