feckingmorons: No, he actually had it cut to one quarter of what it was.

It was 8 months, 24 weeks.

He had it cut to four months, which through some different calendar means six weeks, plus two weeks, or eight weeks.

So in the UK 2 months is half of eight months.

I hope he gets some sleep, with math like that no wonder he tosses and turns.

he was concerned that his mother would lose some of her welfare supplements.

2xhelix: Plain and simple: Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

My god, you're right. It's so simple. Thank you. We can now lay off 90% of law enforcement and corrections, for I'm sure you've single-handedly found the answer to the vast majority of crime.

LowbrowDeluxe: 2xhelix: Plain and simple: Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

My god, you're right. It's so simple. Thank you. We can now lay off 90% of law enforcement and corrections, for I'm sure you've single-handedly found the answer to the vast majority of crime.

At least someone else realizes it as well. It really is that simple.

I wish I knew more so I could make appropriate comments.

If you're going to get caught up in something, perhaps one should aim a little higher than breaking shop windows and stealing stuff. Some suggestions.

1) Easy Ass: Start an actual Revolution, Britain is probably 200 years overdue.
2) Bad Ass: Sneak into to Syria with rifle and help overthrow Assad
3) Ponies Ass: Sparkle Motion.
4) Hard Ass. Become a Nurse, move to the Congo and work in a hospital till felled by some nasty tropical disease.
5) Hard Ass^2: Earn a Degree in Biochemistry, work tirelessly in search of a cure for cancer.

high end stress job and can't sleep.

feckingmorons: No, he actually had it cut to one quarter of what it was.

It was 8 months, 24 weeks.

He had it cut to four months, which through some different calendar means six weeks, plus two weeks, or eight weeks.

So in the UK 2 months is half of eight months.

I hope he gets some sleep, with math like that no wonder he tosses and turns.


FTFA -

sentenced by magistrates to an eight-month detention and training order - of which half he would serve in a young offenders' institution.

Half of 8 is four months in a young offenders institution. Reducing the sentence by half cuts that down to two. TFA doesn't seem to specify how the other half would be served, but the maths works.

oh noes! judges consider a variety of factors when making sentencing decisions and then re-evaluate them based on additional information based on their analysis on a number of factors, including likely recidivism. communism! lock them up! pink underwear! can't do the time, don't do the crime! other tough sounding thing!

I've never been successful with the "everyone else was doing it" defense. I've got to learn this kid's secret.

Bomb Head Mohammed: oh noes! judges consider a variety of factors when making sentencing decisions and then re-evaluate them based on additional information based on their analysis on a number of factors, including likely recidivism. communism! lock them up! pink underwear! can't do the time, don't do the crime! other tough sounding thing!

^LOL This!

A teenage drama student

Pretty much says it all I think.

Four months for trying to steal a bottle is plenty, anyway.

Awwwww diddums.

Mob mentallity is a real thing. I got caught up in a "bravado" competition once in high school. We destroyed a temporary trailer, with literally every available man contributing. It was stupid and childish, but once it hit critical mass, it was impossible to stop. I've never been involved in something like that since, and probably never would, but I understand how it can happen.

wallywam1: I can't sleep due to stress either, because I have a damn job.

And yet you're up at 3am...

I was told there would be no maths.


The Token Man: wallywam1: I can't sleep due to stress either, because I have a damn job.

And yet you're up at 3am...

Me too.

/Use of 'maths' for our great cousins back in blighty
//Work 15:30-0:00 today
///Use of 24 hour clock also for our European friends
////International slashies for all!

gibbon1:
1) Easy Ass: Start an actual Revolution, Britain is probably 200 years overdue.

Britain's last revolution went so well that they actually imported a king from the continent and pretended the whole thing never happened.

//Well, not literally pretended it never happened, but you know what I mean.

Bears repeating:

http://dotsub.com/view/6474921d-8943-443b-9128-de62aa3b3e54

LowbrowDeluxe: 2xhelix: Plain and simple: Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

My god, you're right. It's so simple. Thank you. We can now lay off 90% of law enforcement and corrections, for I'm sure you've single-handedly found the answer to the vast majority of crime.

It has little to do with finding the answer to crime. It has to do with what should be the expected sympathy of the courts with respect to criminal activity as a matter of policy.

See, you don't know the difference between "answer" and "response". The response should be punishment. The answer is punishment plus pursuit.

What next? Let plane bombers go free on humanitarian grounds?

Bomb Head Mohammed
oh noes! judges consider a variety of factors when making sentencing decisions and then re-evaluate them based on additional information based on their analysis on a number of factors, including likely recidivism. communism! lock them up! pink underwear! can't do the time, don't do the crime! other tough sounding thing!

Oh noes. Punishment causes criminal to be sad. No remorse for actions taken, just sad (s)he's being held responsible for actions (s)he willfully engaged in. Quick have judges who are safely isolated from this type of behavior end punishments, that'll solve all misbehavior. How is it no one thought of this before!? It's brilliant, simply brilliant!

Let us all hope nobody ever commits crimes against judges like this or we'll have to buy the criminals ice-cream cones to ensure they don't fall into depression.

Heh, he should have been in the L.A. riots. The chav wouldn't have lasted five minutes. Especially by the Korean stores. Those guys don't fool around.

Jake Havechek: Every time you think America has pussified, take a look at the UK.

Or look at the precious snowflakes of the OWS... wait, that make us look even worse.

2xhelix: Plain and simple: Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

Keep your eye on the sparrow when the going gets narrow.

Jim_Callahan: gibbon1:
1) Easy Ass: Start an actual Revolution, Britain is probably 200 years overdue.

Britain's last revolution went so well that they actually imported a king from the continent and pretended the whole thing never happened.

//Well, not literally pretended it never happened, but you know what I mean.

Britain's last revolution went so well they invented modern democracy.

And, no doubt, "Had a beautiful speaking voice."
/Cue monty Python.

Subby knows he's do the same thing if he found himself slapped with the sentence and if the system would let him take advantage of it in that way. Come to think of it, so do most of the people posting here in "outrage".


All that said, I can't say I get all this "sympathy" for rioters either.

I understand the concept of "mob mentality" from a clinical standpoint. Can't say I personally identify with it though. When I see other people breaking windows, rolling cars or otherwise destroying property, no matter how "in the heat of the moment" I happen to be, it's not really my first impulse to join in.

People are really that suggestible, eh?

LowbrowDeluxe: 2xhelix: Plain and simple: Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

My god, you're right. It's so simple. Thank you. We can now lay off 90% of law enforcement and corrections, for I'm sure you've single-handedly found the answer to the vast majority of crime.

Yeah, it amuses me that people think that punishment deters crime. I'm not "good" because I'm worried about being punished, I'm just good. It's not like I'm just fighting back urges to steal, kill, rape and riot out of fear of getting caught. It reminds me of "curing homosexuality" arguments, anyone that thinks that punishment deters crime is a closet criminal.

A criminal doesn't think about the punishment because a) they don't think they'll get caught, b) their thinking or perceptions are not working properly.
Both teenagers and mobs are scientifically proven to have faulty thinking.

I'm not giving an excuse. Just saying you have to understand human nature before coming up with a scheme to control it.

gibbon1:
5) Hard Ass^2: Earn a Degree in Biochemistry, work tirelessly in search of a cure for cancer.

What? No love for a human-eradicating super-virus that lowers the population by 2/3rds? Why the hell am I cramming for finals?