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2011-10-11 09:45:14 AM
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2011-10-11 10:45:14 AM
It's an artificial construct of our society, a cultural decision, to make pets out of dogs and meat out of pigs.

So what? We get to decide on our own norms and mores, and we can certainly turn the channel every time your stupid face is on the telly.
 
2011-10-11 10:46:19 AM
Although I'd never eat it (I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way), I have to agree. Pigs have feelings just as much as dogs do, I'm sure.

i.imgur.com
A Chinese animal lover consoles a dog after a convoy of trucks carrying some 500 dogs to be sold as meat, were stopped along a highway in Beijing on early April 17, 2011.

Almost enough to make a guy vegetarian.

Almost.
 
2011-10-11 10:58:00 AM
Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.
 
2011-10-11 11:05:10 AM
Dogs are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a dog technically any different than eating a pig? Only cultural issues get in the way of Americans deciding to grill up Rover after an evening of playing fetch.

But I'm not ashamed of admitting that I will not eat certain things due to cultural differences, either. But I don't think of eating them as 'strange,' or 'weird.'
 
2011-10-11 11:22:26 AM
As one who is not a fan of dogs, doesn't bother me if people want to eat them.

I'd be a hypocrite to eat a steak and then tell people they can't eat other types of meat.
 
2011-10-11 11:24:24 AM

RexTalionis: Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.


Why does logic need to be part of this? Logically we shouldn't put emotion into what we eat, yet that is what PETA does on a daily basis. I adore dogs, I don't care about pigs. 100% emotional.
 
2011-10-11 11:27:38 AM
Congratulations on proving morality is relative. Now go eat puppy while you learn that bucking societal norms has consequences. You are free to do anything you want within the law. It doesn't make them all things you SHOULD do.
 
2011-10-11 11:33:52 AM
Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?
 
2011-10-11 11:34:41 AM

R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?


Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?
 
2011-10-11 11:36:09 AM
images.icanhascheezburger.com

/just going to back quietly out of this thread
 
2011-10-11 11:37:54 AM

Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?


No, I'm the emotional guy that thinks puppies should be cuddled.
 
2011-10-11 11:42:13 AM

R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?

No, I'm the emotional guy that thinks puppies should be cuddled.


Humans need cuddling too.
 
2011-10-11 11:42:54 AM

Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?

No, I'm the emotional guy that thinks puppies should be cuddled.

Humans need cuddling too.


I agree 100%.
 
2011-10-11 11:49:47 AM

Ennuipoet: [images.icanhascheezburger.com image 500x281]

/just going to back quietly out of this thread


Okay, this is a random question about The Hunt For Red October.

The scene captured in that often-posted picture occurs right after a plane crashes onto the deck of the aircraft carrier.

As far as I can remember, that crash is neither mentioned again. What is the point of it in the plot?
 
2011-10-11 11:54:23 AM
Can a pig sense that you are sick and cuddle with you when you are bedridden? Does a pig freak out when you come home? Does a pig whimper when you're angry? Does a pig plop his head on your leg when you are crying? If your pig died would you take off work?
 
2011-10-11 11:55:13 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: If your pig died would you take off work?


Maybe to quarter him and put him in the freezer.
 
2011-10-11 12:03:06 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Can a pig sense that you are sick and cuddle with you when you are bedridden? Does a pig freak out when you come home? Does a pig whimper when you're angry? Does a pig plop his head on your leg when you are crying? If your pig died would you take off work?


I dunno. They might.
 
2011-10-11 12:15:47 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Can a pig sense that you are sick and cuddle with you when you are bedridden? Does a pig freak out when you come home? Does a pig whimper when you're angry? Does a pig plop his head on your leg when you are crying? If your pig died would you take off work?


Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes and yes.

/just ask George Clooney.
 
2011-10-11 12:19:36 PM

elchip: Ennuipoet: [images.icanhascheezburger.com image 500x281]

/just going to back quietly out of this thread

Okay, this is a random question about The Hunt For Red October.

The scene captured in that often-posted picture occurs right after a plane crashes onto the deck of the aircraft carrier.


As far as I can remember, that crash is neither mentioned again. What is the point of it in the plot?


The ramifications of having the entire Russian fleet looking for the RO is that the US must deploy most of their fleet. They are in such close proximity to each other, the Russian aircraft clipped the wing of the American jet.
 
2011-10-11 12:27:33 PM
As for the thread...dogs are domesticated. That's why we don't eat them. We formed a unique bond with them when we bred them to be our friends. We domesticated pigs too. But they were meat from the start. We didn't invite pigs into our homes to sleep and play with us. Nor did we rely on pigs to protect us. You want to eat a wolf? Go ahead. You eat a domesticated dog in front of me, don't be surprised if I hit you.
 
2011-10-11 12:36:55 PM
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
 
2011-10-11 12:36:57 PM
Dog is a fine meal. Not enough meat on cats.
 
2011-10-11 12:38:12 PM

elchip: As far as I can remember, that crash is neither mentioned again. What is the point of it in the plot?


The plane crash changed the mind of the Admiral to fly Jack Ryan to the sub tailing the Red October.
 
2011-10-11 12:38:50 PM
Well, he's right -- pigs are smart, empathic, and are often kept as pets by people who cannot tolerate dog/cat dander. I still wouldn't associate with anyone who knowingly consumes puppy meat, yet I loves me some bacon. Morality has less to do with it than social convention.
 
2011-10-11 12:38:59 PM
I've eaten animals that make good pets before. I'd probably try dog too if it became convenient at some point.
 
2011-10-11 12:40:29 PM
Considering i just put my beloved Amber to sleep this morning, I hope he DIAF wearing polyester.
/Farking arsehole.
 
2011-10-11 12:40:30 PM
Your dog wants IS steak
 
2011-10-11 12:40:34 PM
''You can't object, unless you also object to the farming of pigs. It's an artificial construct of our society, a cultural decision, to make pets out of dogs and meat out of pigs. Both animals could be used the other way round, although pigs probably do make better meat than dogs and dogs better pets than pigs, but it's not a foregone conclusion.''

i1136.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-11 12:41:11 PM
Pigs = bacon
 
2011-10-11 12:41:19 PM
I can't get the article to open, so I'll just say what I came here to say anyway.

You want to eat dogs? Fine. But please kill it quickly. I've read too many horror stories of how the dogs are treated (beaten and the like) before they're killed for food.

Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.
 
2011-10-11 12:42:36 PM
My Filipino friend told me he ate dog forehead before and described it as tasting like bologna. Supposedly there is dark dog meat and light dog meat as well.

/likes bologna
//likes doggies
///confused
 
2011-10-11 12:43:02 PM
Buttermilk-marinated possum pieces is coated in seasoned flour, fried t'a crispy golden brown, an' then baked fo' an hour fo' the dawgoned-est tenner southern-fried possum. Yo' kin fry th' possum th' night befo'e an' finish it in th' oven, as enny fool kin plainly see.
 
2011-10-11 12:43:12 PM

gwendolyyyn: I can't get the article to open, so I'll just say what I came here to say anyway.

You want to eat dogs? Fine. But please kill it quickly. I've read too many horror stories of how the dogs are treated (beaten and the like) before they're killed for food.

Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.


Are we?
 
2011-10-11 12:43:32 PM
www.behindthevoiceactors.com

*Approves*
 
2011-10-11 12:44:18 PM

gwendolyyyn: I can't get the article to open, so I'll just say what I came here to say anyway.

You want to eat dogs? Fine. But please kill it quickly. I've read too many horror stories of how the dogs are treated (beaten and the like) before they're killed for food.

Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.


THIS. The notion they have to torture it to make the meat an aphrodisac or some crap. Ugh.
 
2011-10-11 12:44:29 PM

7wolf: gwendolyyyn:

Are we?


no.

Why did you have to go and rain on my parade?
:(
 
2011-10-11 12:46:12 PM

gwendolyyyn: 7wolf: gwendolyyyn:

Are we?

no.

Why did you have to go and rain on my parade?
:(


We cannot be judged by the worst of us any more than we can be judged by the best of us. Generally speaking, yes, we're better than that.

/rainbow
 
2011-10-11 12:46:14 PM
www.wwnorton.com
 
2011-10-11 12:46:37 PM

7wolf: gwendolyyyn: I can't get the article to open, so I'll just say what I came here to say anyway.

You want to eat dogs? Fine. But please kill it quickly. I've read too many horror stories of how the dogs are treated (beaten and the like) before they're killed for food.

Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.

Are we?


Yeah, because I am sure that the dog would be OK with you eating him if it were over with quickly
 
2011-10-11 12:46:55 PM

gwendolyyyn: Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.


This pretty much sums it up for me. Just because we're gonna kill something to consume its flesh doesn't mean we gotta be cruel to it beforehand.
 
2011-10-11 12:47:56 PM

maliklockett: 7

Yeah, because I am sure that the dog would be OK with you eating him if it were over with quickly


My point. you missed it.
 
2011-10-11 12:48:15 PM

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: gwendolyyyn: Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.

This pretty much sums it up for me. Just because we're gonna kill something to consume its flesh doesn't mean we gotta be cruel to it beforehand.


Cruel to be kind. In the right measure.
 
2011-10-11 12:49:29 PM

Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?


images.wikia.com

The only reason we don't eat people is 'cause they taste lousy.
 
2011-10-11 12:49:34 PM
Hey, doll, could you scare up another round for our table over here? And tell the cook this is low grade dog food. I've had better food at the ballgame, you know? This steak still has marks from where the jockey was hitting it.
 
2011-10-11 12:51:09 PM
the pics that showed up on my Google search will scar me the rest of the day :(
 
2011-10-11 12:51:30 PM
cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com
 
2011-10-11 12:51:57 PM

wmoonfox: Well, he's right -- pigs are smart, empathic, and are often kept as pets by people who cannot tolerate dog/cat dander. I still wouldn't associate with anyone who knowingly consumes puppy meat, yet I loves me some bacon. Morality has less to do with it than social convention.


www.beertripper.com
 
2011-10-11 12:54:53 PM
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2011-10-11 12:55:57 PM

RexTalionis: Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.


Because, bacon, that's why.
 
2011-10-11 12:56:10 PM

wmoonfox: gwendolyyyn: 7wolf: gwendolyyyn:

Are we?

no.

Why did you have to go and rain on my parade?
:(

We cannot be judged by the worst of us any more than we can be judged by the best of us. Generally speaking, yes, we're better than that.

/rainbow


I dunno, I think the average person would be too grossed out to do it themselves, but too apathetic to care if someone else did it for them.
 
2011-10-11 12:59:15 PM

RexTalionis: Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.


BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE BACON OUT OF A DOG.
 
2011-10-11 01:01:44 PM
 
2011-10-11 01:02:47 PM
If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
i.dailymail.co.uk

/artificial construct indeed
 
2011-10-11 01:03:32 PM

Bonkthat_Again: [img685.imageshack.us image 452x640]


Aww I has a sad now...
 
2011-10-11 01:07:10 PM

Cythraul: Dogs are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a dog technically any different than eating a pig?


Humans are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a human technically any different than eating a pig?
 
2011-10-11 01:07:13 PM

Diphtheria: The only reason we don't eat people is 'cause they taste lousy.


Believe it or not, cannibals often report that people taste like pork (hence why human meat is referred to as "long pig" in some cannibalistic societies).
 
2011-10-11 01:07:22 PM
Dog, its whats for dinner.
 
2011-10-11 01:09:12 PM

Skyfrog: Humans are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a human technically any different than eating a pig?


It isn't. There are tribes that ate human flesh for thousands of years.

Meat is just meat.
 
2011-10-11 01:09:23 PM
If you do decide to eat puppy, make sure to brine soak it first for tenderness.

Remember, all puppies are a little chewy.



/I'm here all week, folks
//Try the fish.
 
2011-10-11 01:09:36 PM
I've raised cattle & chickens, both have personalities. Still eat both.
 
2011-10-11 01:09:49 PM
Going with the whole 'when in Rome' thing, I had dog in Korea, and it tasted like beef roast. Very tender. I love dogs, grew up around plenty of them, and will never eat it again, but it was tasty. Flame me if you'd like, but just because dogs are pets here doesn't mean they are considered as such elsewhere.
 
2011-10-11 01:11:54 PM

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.


/artificial construct indeed


Liar. I stared and studied that picture, never saw the pig.
 
2011-10-11 01:12:24 PM

Skyfrog: Cythraul: Dogs are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a dog technically any different than eating a pig?

Humans are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a human technically any different than eating a pig?


Extreme argument is EXTREME! You obviously win.
 
2011-10-11 01:12:24 PM
If dogs tasted better than pigs we would eat dogs. It probably also stems from what early man used these animals for. They hunted pigs and other animals with dogs not the other way around.
 
2011-10-11 01:12:28 PM
No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.
 
2011-10-11 01:12:41 PM

7wolf: I dunno, I think the average person would be too grossed out to do it themselves, but too apathetic to care if someone else did it for them.


I think the average person might be okay with it in a starvation scenario, but, given the choice between a cow steak and a dog steak, would probably choose the former.
 
2011-10-11 01:13:23 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Aww I has a sad now...


Forgot to add #11 : Please do not eat me.
 
2011-10-11 01:13:38 PM

Skyfrog: Cythraul: Dogs are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a dog technically any different than eating a pig?

Humans are animals, so are pigs and cows. We eat animals. Why is eating a human technically any different than eating a pig?


Actual serious answer:

Because humans are the prime carriers of human diseases. Most stuff like this don't spread between spieces. But if we eat our own, no such luck.
 
2011-10-11 01:14:41 PM

gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.


This, too.
 
2011-10-11 01:15:44 PM
this is what we should be eating.....
www.motifake.com
 
2011-10-11 01:17:06 PM

wmoonfox: 7wolf: I dunno, I think the average person would be too grossed out to do it themselves, but too apathetic to care if someone else did it for them.

I think the average person might be okay with it in a starvation scenario, but, given the choice between a cow steak and a dog steak, would probably choose the former.


Was referring to the treatment pre-death.
 
kab
2011-10-11 01:17:12 PM

Cythraul: Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?


Why not, they're just animals.

We have no problems labeling some of our species as enemies, and then killing them all off in rather horrific ways. Might as well make some fried dumplings while we're at it.
 
2011-10-11 01:18:11 PM

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed


I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)
 
2011-10-11 01:20:06 PM

kab: We have no problems labeling some of our species as enemies, and then killing them all off in rather horrific ways. Might as well make some fried dumplings while we're at it.


You know, that's not a bad idea. Re-equip the flamethrower as a front-line weapon, and your troops can augment their food stores with barbecue on demand. Brilliant!
 
2011-10-11 01:20:54 PM
Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)



you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.
 
2011-10-11 01:21:59 PM

gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.


What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.
 
2011-10-11 01:24:42 PM
icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-10-11 01:24:59 PM

Wizzin: Pigs = bacon


Puppies = barcon.
 
2011-10-11 01:25:48 PM

karnal: Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)


you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.


The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.
 
2011-10-11 01:26:35 PM

karnal: Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)


you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.


my point is: not gay enough.
 
2011-10-11 01:29:58 PM
By the way... Has anyone pointed out that in the west we take pigs, grind them into paste, squeeze them out, and call them dogs?
 
2011-10-11 01:30:12 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.


Guess how I know you don't know what you are talking about? All the animals you mention have amazing relationships with human beings but none of them do the many distinct things that dogs have done with and for us.

There are countless works on the subject but you can start here:

http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/08/23/the-dog-human-connection-in-e v olution/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100720123639.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2498669.stm

http://www.globalanimal.org/2010/09/21/would-we-be-here-without-dogs- c ats-and-cows/10663/dog-owner-zoom/

Learn something, maybe.
 
2011-10-11 01:30:13 PM

Zmog: The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.


actually, i kind of prefer it that way. i would most prefer to be perceived genderless, but i'll take male over the usual nonsense chicks who aren't here to announce how big their boob sizes are in comparison with a celebrity and otherwise fishing for compliments and e-cock have to put up with. which is why tfd bores me to no end.

/except the jorie threads. that's worth the $5 for the wtflolbbq factor.
 
2011-10-11 01:30:17 PM
Also, before someone brings up the stupid Roman dog corps, that was a tiny portion of one army. It's nowhere near the prevalence of war horses in world history. A pack of dog handlers might have helped win one or two fights, but Mongolian cavalry broke the backs of both Europe and Asia.

Then there's travel. Did people ride on dogs backs to migrate across America? No, they used horses. Did the puppy express deliver mail across the nation? No, it was horses.

Horses are even more intelligent than dogs, yet people eat horses. Cows are more intelligent and social than dogs, yet we eat cows. Pigs are more intelligent than dogs, yet we eat pigs.

It's not a matter of dogs being less tasty. It's not a matter of dogs being more intelligent. It's simply a cultural norm.

Like dogs all you want, but they are animals and if you condone eating beef or chicken, or even fish, there is nothing wrong with eating dog.
 
2011-10-11 01:30:44 PM

karnal: Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)


you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.


Know how I know you don't look at people's profiles?

/clicking a mouse button once is HARD
 
2011-10-11 01:31:14 PM

Zmog: By the way... Has anyone pointed out that in the west we take pigs, grind them into paste, squeeze them out, and call them dogs?


that's hot.

/i am ashamed of that joke.
 
2011-10-11 01:32:36 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.


And speaking of "not remotely true" you are factually incorrect to state that humans domesticated cattle before dogs. Dogs and then sheep were first. Cattle were down the line later.
 
2011-10-11 01:34:34 PM

gshepnyc: http://www.globalanimal.org/2010/09/21/would-we-be-here-without-dogs- c ats-and-cows/10663/dog-owner-zoom/


5000 years difference is meaningless in the overall point of argument: eating dogs is not wrong, just as eating cows is not, unless you maintain that eating any animal is wrong.

Do you think some weird magic happened within a few thousand years of difference between cattle and dog domestication? Do you think that someone domesticating a dog on the other side of the world magically changed genetics in humans on the other side?

Humans domesticate animals because we can, not because there's some kind of dog magic that invades our bodies like a symbiote and makes us into new humans.

Use some logic.
 
2011-10-11 01:35:45 PM

Sarcastica75: Zmog: The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.

actually, i kind of prefer it that way. i would most prefer to be perceived genderless, but i'll take male over the usual nonsense chicks who aren't here to announce how big their boob sizes are in comparison with a celebrity and otherwise fishing for compliments and e-cock have to put up with. which is why tfd bores me to no end.

/except the jorie threads. that's worth the $5 for the wtflolbbq factor.


All right, you win. I will not send e-cock.
 
2011-10-11 01:35:56 PM
Come at me bro.


www.guzer.com
 
2011-10-11 01:36:22 PM

gshepnyc: And speaking of "not remotely true" you are factually incorrect to state that humans domesticated cattle before dogs. Dogs and then sheep were first. Cattle were down the line later.


Still meaningless to the greater point of contention, unless your argument is that there is some kind of magic bond between humans and dogs which is not shared between humans and sheep, or humans and cattle, or humans and horses, or humans and cats, simply due to a few thousand years of difference in domestication.

And if that's your point, then I'm going to laugh at you.
 
2011-10-11 01:36:47 PM
My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.
 
2011-10-11 01:38:05 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.


I don't have time on my lunch break to explain in detail just how wrong you are point by point. Just suffice it for now to say, go look up when dogs were domesticated vs. when cows were domesticated.
 
2011-10-11 01:38:20 PM

Too Pretty For Prison: RexTalionis: Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE BACON OUT OF A DOG.


But once you can my neighbors had better lock up their dogs at night.
 
2011-10-11 01:40:07 PM
Zmog

karnal: Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)


you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.

The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.


You are right - I did assume/presume. Shame on me and shame on the manufacturer of those shoes. Hideous!
 
2011-10-11 01:40:20 PM

Zmog: Sarcastica75: Zmog: The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.

actually, i kind of prefer it that way. i would most prefer to be perceived genderless, but i'll take male over the usual nonsense chicks who aren't here to announce how big their boob sizes are in comparison with a celebrity and otherwise fishing for compliments and e-cock have to put up with. which is why tfd bores me to no end.

/except the jorie threads. that's worth the $5 for the wtflolbbq factor.

All right, you win. I will not send e-cock.


Me, neither.

*shakes on it*

/that's what he said.
 
2011-10-11 01:40:22 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: http://www.globalanimal.org/2010/09/21/would-we-be-here-without-dogs- c ats-and-cows/10663/dog-owner-zoom/

5000 years difference is meaningless in the overall point of argument: eating dogs is not wrong, just as eating cows is not, unless you maintain that eating any animal is wrong.

Do you think some weird magic happened within a few thousand years of difference between cattle and dog domestication? Do you think that someone domesticating a dog on the other side of the world magically changed genetics in humans on the other side?

Humans domesticate animals because we can, not because there's some kind of dog magic that invades our bodies like a symbiote and makes us into new humans.

Use some logic.


5,000 years is meaningless given 10,000-25,000 year window? Really?

And calling what amounts to a mutual domestication between humans and dogs "magic" or not logical just because you have strong opinions but no education on the subject doesn't make your statement any stronger.

Listen, shake your tiny fists and get yourself all worked up if you like, but I sent you a little bit to get started on as far as actually learning what the current ideas are on this subject and that's all I can do for you.
 
2011-10-11 01:40:43 PM
SuperMeekrat : Considering i just put my beloved Amber to sleep this morning, I hope he DIAF wearing polyester.

I am sorry about the loss of your dog. Just remember the rainbow bridge. Link
 
2011-10-11 01:42:15 PM
Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.



I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.
 
2011-10-11 01:42:18 PM
This guy too. He will fark up your shiat.

www.bobpitch.com
 
2011-10-11 01:42:53 PM

bidness: natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.

I don't have time on my lunch break to explain in detail just how wrong you are point by point. Just suffice it for now to say, go look up when dogs were domesticated vs. when cows were domesticated.


I'm giving up on him. Now he is tossing out buzzwords like "magic." For someone who tells people to be logical, he is not terribly willing to look at the facts.
 
2011-10-11 01:43:48 PM
Because carnivores make a poor economic choice as a domestic food animal?

And because doggies are cute and they wuv you.

In contrast, don't kid yourself why we eat cattle. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.
 
2011-10-11 01:45:02 PM

natmar_76: Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.


I don't think you're going back far enough.

Before we were a world of nations, we were a world of tribes; and before that, mere pack animals. Without dogs to stand guard at our camps, help us track and catch game, provide warmth and companionship, and, yes, even meat when necessary, some of the advancements which led us to form tribes and nations may have taken considerably longer, if they happened at all.

Surely, our history would have unfolded in an altogether different way without dogs. I believe that is the point the poster in question was trying to make.
 
2011-10-11 01:47:33 PM

natmar_76: If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle


Dogs were domesticated thousands of years before any other animal. In fact, it's probably due to the assistance of dogs - through herding (a modified hunting instinct) - that we managed to domesticate any of our livestock.
 
2011-10-11 01:48:03 PM

karnal: Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.


I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.


You're right.
She also ate rice and fish.
 
2011-10-11 01:48:50 PM
Tax Boy

Because carnivores make a poor economic choice as a domestic food animal?

And because doggies are cute and they wuv you.

In contrast, don't kid yourself why we eat cattle. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.



Years ago at camp we were set up next to some cows in a field.....and late one night a buddy and I took this jar of peanut butter and ........well, suffice it to say - cows love peanut butter.
 
2011-10-11 01:48:53 PM

gshepnyc: Dogs and then sheep were first. Cattle were down the line later.


Just like a furry orgy.
 
2011-10-11 01:49:00 PM

Zmog: Sarcastica75: Zmog: The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.

actually, i kind of prefer it that way. i would most prefer to be perceived genderless, but i'll take male over the usual nonsense chicks who aren't here to announce how big their boob sizes are in comparison with a celebrity and otherwise fishing for compliments and e-cock have to put up with. which is why tfd bores me to no end.

/except the jorie threads. that's worth the $5 for the wtflolbbq factor.

All right, you win. I will not send e-cock.


I refuse to make such a comment as PIE may be needed to get BIE. It's part of the rules of BIE you know.
 
2011-10-11 01:49:42 PM

Aupey: She also ate rice and fish.


So that's what happened to my twin puppies Rice and Fish!
 
2011-10-11 01:49:57 PM

varmitydog: SuperMeekrat : Considering i just put my beloved Amber to sleep this morning, I hope he DIAF wearing polyester.

I am sorry about the loss of your dog. Just remember the rainbow bridge. Link


Thank you.
/Alternately, i think they're under the table at the infinite card game at my grandmother's house... (favorite spot for me at a wee one, with the dog, of course.)
 
2011-10-11 01:51:06 PM
Aupey

karnal: Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.


I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.

You're right.
She also ate rice and fish.


Actually it was tuna pie.....I believe.
 
2011-10-11 01:52:52 PM
I have said this same thing before myself. I always thought it was kind of weird that some people argue how it's ok to eat some animals because they're "farm" animals but it's definitely not ok to eat dogs and cats because they're "companion" animals. It's like some kind of animal caste system. I would bet that pigs and cows are just as intelligent and capable of feeling pain as dogs and cats.

Another animal comparison I have often thought about is dogs vs coyotes. Dogs and coyotes are so similar that they can breed and produce viable offspring. But despite that, people will treat their dogs like their children, yet they will shoot at, trap, and skin coyotes like it's nothing. What's up with that?

//just to note: I'm not a vegetarian.
//I'm more than happy to eat whatever tastes good and is relatively convenient to farm.
 
2011-10-11 01:53:16 PM

karnal: Aupey

karnal: Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.


I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.

You're right.
She also ate rice and fish.

Actually it was tuna pie.....I believe.


Nah.
Surprisingly, she's never had tuna.
Well, I'm out.
 
2011-10-11 01:57:14 PM
Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.

However, in a pinch, any dog will do. But remember, black dogs taste bad, yellow dogs taste best.

//Guess they're overly ripe
//So I've heard, did not try the 보신탕
 
2011-10-11 01:59:03 PM

karnal: Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)

you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.


Pretty sure Sarcastica75 is a lady.

/could be wrong, but don't think so
 
2011-10-11 01:59:05 PM
t0.gstatic.com
I say we drink the wine, eat the dogs, and use the papers for musket wadding.

Reverend: Eat the dogs?!

Benjamin: Aye, dog is a fine meal.
 
2011-10-11 01:59:11 PM

gshepnyc: 5,000 years is meaningless given 10,000-25,000 year window? Really?

And calling what amounts to a mutual domestication between humans and dogs "magic" or not logical just because you have strong opinions but no education on the subject doesn't make your statement any stronger.


Your trolling is pretty good, but I'm going to continue pointing out your ridiculous logical errors.

1. Strawman: Magic is in reference to your implication that a special relationship exists (magically) between humans and dogs because of a mere difference of a few thousand years between domestication of dogs and cattle

2. Ad hominem: implying no education and emotional (ergo poor) decisions

3. Circular fallacy/Correlation: human-dog relations (lol) are somehow special because human-dog domestication occured before human-cattle domestication because human-dog relations are special

4. Argument of Ignorance/Ad Nauseum: 5000 years is a long time! That must be special! (no, it's not; we domesticate because we can, from dogs to cattle to dolphins)

5. Cherry Picking: ignoring any and all cogent arguments that do not accept the mystical poetic assertion that human-dog relations are special and magical above and beyond any other domestication, despite many other domesticated species being more intelligent and useful than dogs.

Animals are just animals. Meat is just meat. We eat people, when we need to, from the Chilean plane crash to the Oregon Trail to remote tribes that practice ritual consumption. We eat every kind of a
 
2011-10-11 01:59:45 PM

xip_80: But despite that, people will treat their dogs like their children, yet they will shoot at, trap, and skin coyotes like it's nothing. What's up with that?


People shoot at and trap feral dogs as well.
 
2011-10-11 02:01:26 PM

Irving Maimway: Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.


What Black Angus might look like:

imagehost.vendio.com
 
2011-10-11 02:01:47 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.




1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-11 02:02:14 PM

R.A.Danny: thismomentinblackhistory: If your pig died would you take off work?

Maybe to quarter him and put him in the freezer.


You I like.

/loves animals
//eaten dog
 
2011-10-11 02:02:18 PM
Beating a moral reltativist with your fist is just as invigorating as punching a bag of rice.
 
2011-10-11 02:03:01 PM

natmar_76:
You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.


Oh my, after reading that I'm surprised you know how to type and use a computer to log onto the Internet.
 
2011-10-11 02:06:18 PM
I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.
 
2011-10-11 02:08:22 PM

natmar_76: Your trolling is pretty good


No, YOU!
 
2011-10-11 02:11:56 PM
i had dog meat years ago in Mexico city ...
I like to know that my meat probably had a name ... I just hope it was organic. Horse meat it tough ... snake is ok ... alligator tail was good ... I could not eat rat when i was in Peru ... that was to far ...
I think eating at many fast food places is disgusting ...
 
2011-10-11 02:12:01 PM

natmar_76: I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.


I agree with you on the meat is meat.

What I have a problem with is you seem to ignore what the dog has done throughout its 15,000 year relationship with man. And to say dogs are not smart just helps demonstration your ignorance.

Biatch about it, dog hater
 
2011-10-11 02:13:01 PM
i hear that dog tastes kind of like goat meat, gamy and stringy.

not eating either one. i had some monkey meat in the Philippines. It was kinda like chicken as i recall. also, i ate a chick once in a cutlass olds. she tasted like heaven. :)
 
2011-10-11 02:15:06 PM
aside from the paws I cant tell the difference between dog or pork on the shelf...



NSFW or Lunch just to be safe lets say if you have a weak stomach and cant handle looking at meat do not click this link!

Link (new window)
 
2011-10-11 02:17:43 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Can a pig sense that you are sick and cuddle with you when you are bedridden? Does a pig freak out when you come home? Does a pig whimper when you're angry? Does a pig plop his head on your leg when you are crying? If your pig died would you take off work?


upload.wikimedia.org

Robert did.
 
2011-10-11 02:18:00 PM

R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?

No, I'm the emotional guy that thinks puppies should be cuddled.

Humans need cuddling too.

I agree 100%.


This is why I cuddle with my puppy. It makes us both happy. Plus my puppy is so cute.
He are a big sweetie, yes him are. With him big puppy eyes and cute puppy nosey and pink tongue to give kisses. And with many feet and many paws so he can play more than anybody else! He is just the sweetiest little sugar butt!
 
2011-10-11 02:18:29 PM
Puppy? No, thanks. Casserole du lapin? Mais bien sûr!
 
2011-10-11 02:23:24 PM
i.imgur.com

damn right!!
 
2011-10-11 02:25:37 PM
..a dog that good, you don't eat all at once!

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-11 02:27:29 PM
thumbnails.hulu.com
 
2011-10-11 02:29:03 PM
I like pigs just as much as dogs, and I'd eat either one of them. You cutesy wutesy people are hilarious.

PIG HATERS!!!
 
2011-10-11 02:30:10 PM

natmar_76: I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.


Awwww, someone pee in your Wheaties today?

The only one crying about anything in this thread is you.
 
2011-10-11 02:30:33 PM
www.greatdogsite.com

Only missing the bun?
 
2011-10-11 02:34:54 PM
nstutsman

damn right!!


So is that pic condoning eating dogs? Go Mercy For Animals! eheheh
 
2011-10-11 02:46:14 PM
ya I've heard that before and guess what, I still wont eat a dog, unless it's absolutely neccesary that I do.
Pigs have personality too, but they also have bacon so...
 
2011-10-11 02:48:09 PM
cache.gawker.com
 
2011-10-11 02:52:10 PM
oblig Link (new window)
 
2011-10-11 02:54:36 PM

Irving Maimway: Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.

However, in a pinch, any dog will do. But remember, black dogs taste bad, yellow dogs taste best.


Would it be the opposite in Africa, I wonder?
 
2011-10-11 03:12:21 PM
Like that comedian said years ago, "save the dolphins fark the tuna"
 
2011-10-11 03:13:08 PM

elev8meL8r: Irving Maimway: Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.

However, in a pinch, any dog will do. But remember, black dogs taste bad, yellow dogs taste best.

Would it be the opposite in Africa, I wonder?


CSB: Taking a driving tour of a game preserve in South Africa (all of us white Americans), we pull up to view, from a safe distance, a pride of lions chilling in the sun. Our guide (African, not an Afrikaaner) says "Oh by the way, if the lions charge, I'm going to be the only one who's safe. They don't like dark meat."
 
2011-10-11 03:15:32 PM
I probably would not be able to eat a puppy, but I've often thought the skin on their bellies would make great glove inserts.
 
2011-10-11 03:31:05 PM
But we need an emergency food supply:

oishiianime.com
 
2011-10-11 03:32:16 PM
Evidence for dog cohabitation goes back 14,000 years. Domestication has been traced through the dog genome to northern china where they were raised as livestock.

We don't eat them here because we're generally emotionally attached
 
2011-10-11 03:33:12 PM
cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-10-11 03:35:25 PM
I've traveled all over and dog meat is pretty much the only thing I've turned down, and I admit it's for pure sentimentality reasons as a life long dog lover/owner. It had nothing to do with how 'disgusting' or 'cruel' it is to eat dog as meat. We have little room to preach in that regard. As a child, I grew up around one of America's largest beef livestock yards, and nothing could be more disgusting and inhumane than the way those scabby, diseased cows lived their entire lives in knee high pools of shiat and piss, only to be turned into the beef on top of the super fajita nacho platters at your local TGIF McFunsters.

I know in the Hanoi market I went to the locals are very self-aware about it, and try to keep the "dog section" of the market shielded from the Westerners because they tend to stand around and gawk and take pictures. No one likes to feels self conscious about their dinner choices.
 
2011-10-11 03:40:30 PM
Nothing like a fine Ghiscari stew of unborn puppy to fill you up. Best with jellied dog brains for dessert.
 
2011-10-11 03:44:35 PM

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: Nothing like a fine Ghiscari stew of unborn puppy to fill you up. Best with jellied dog brains for dessert.


Getting a kick out of this as I just finished Book 4 yesterday.

Damn, that George Martin sure loves writing about food.

/that, and killing off main characters.
 
2011-10-11 03:46:55 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.


Link (new window)
 
2011-10-11 03:47:38 PM

Tax Boy: Getting a kick out of this as I just finished Book 4 yesterday.

Damn, that George Martin sure loves writing about food.

/that, and killing off main characters.


When you write a war based epic with 20 main characters, some of them got to go within the span of 4,000 pages.
 
2011-10-11 04:01:16 PM
i approve of eating these puppies.

www.aldenteblog.com
 
2011-10-11 04:15:19 PM
Hugh Fearnly-Whittingstall (or as I prefer to call him Huge Furry-shiattingstool) is a legend. He is one of the few people who talks sense about food on the TV in the UK.

I remember an excellent episode of his show where he was trying to decide which of his 3 pigs to send for slaughter. He was very emotional as he tried to explain the decision, bearing in mind that he had bought and raised them for food, but how he had grown close to them the more time he spent with them....that they all had personalities and that he couldn't choose which one to kill....... and then one of them bit him and he just said, "Well that's the decision made then", and off it went to become sausages.

He also took a squeamish girl who only ate supermarket meat and trained her as a really competent butcher.
 
2011-10-11 04:15:34 PM
i1136.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-11 04:32:02 PM
Roast Pig:

benignhumor.files.wordpress.com

It's okay...he's smiling...

Roast Dog:

images.travelpod.com

It's okay....he's smiling as well.

Different cultures eat different animals/insects....it's not a big deal.

farm3.static.flickr.com

Oh-No!!!!
 
2011-10-11 04:39:28 PM
icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-10-11 04:45:46 PM
qpups.net
 
2011-10-11 04:57:54 PM
It's almost like you have to kill animals to eat meat.
 
2011-10-11 05:00:08 PM
When I attended sheep herding school, I learned an important lesson--never name your dinner. Once you become emotionally attached to something, it's very hard to see it as a consumable.

To the person way upthread somewhere who thinks only cats can catch mice, you ought to research terriers. There's a reason there are so many dog breeds and vermin control is one of them.

I'll pass on the dogmeat, thanks. Could go for some nice, tasty lamb though.
 
2011-10-11 05:01:02 PM
I don't care if a pig can do differential calculus, I love pork.
 
2011-10-11 05:01:28 PM

RoLleRKoaSTeR: But we need an emergency food supply:

[oishiianime.com image 480x355]


Menchi! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
2011-10-11 05:01:29 PM

wildstarr: natmar_76: I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.

I agree with you on the meat is meat.

What I have a problem with is you seem to ignore what the dog has done throughout its 15,000 year relationship with man. And to say dogs are not smart just helps demonstration your ignorance.


I don't believe he mentioned that. I believe he mentioned that there are plenty of animals that have had close ties to human evolution since the very first human settlements and have cognitive abilities equal or better than dogs. Yet we blindly eat them with moral impunity.

And yes, it does make one kinda ticked to listen to emotional knee-jerk reactions disguised as some kind of scientific accuracy.
 
2011-10-11 05:05:11 PM

jgilb: natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.

Link (new window)


"Dogs, cats, cows and other domesticated animals played a key role in human evolution, according to a theory being published by paleoanthropologist Pat Shipman of Penn State University."

The inconsistency here is staggering.
 
2011-10-11 05:07:10 PM
so, a newbie vegetarian with a new veggie cookbook coming out, stirs controversy by comparing eating pig with eating dog. *yawn*
 
2011-10-11 05:09:01 PM
Most breeds of dogs aren't bred for flavor like pigs. But if it's tasty, I'll eat it.

Conversely, I'd love a trend of breeding various livestock as pets. Perhaps they'll have a strain of pigs.
 
2011-10-11 05:24:24 PM

imgod2u: Most breeds of dogs aren't bred for flavor like pigs. But if it's tasty, I'll eat it.

Conversely, I'd love a trend of breeding various livestock as pets. Perhaps they'll have a strain of pigs.


It would be cool if you could cross a pot bellied pig with an elephant and have little pot bellied elephants.
 
2011-10-11 05:26:28 PM
I feel emotionally vulnerable right now. I love animals so so much. I also love eating meat. I choose to look the other way when I'm digging into some delicious fried chicken. I wish the world were perfect, free of pain & cruelty.
 
2011-10-11 05:49:01 PM
Dog is man's best friend.
 
2011-10-11 05:52:33 PM

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: gwendolyyyn: Eat what you will, but please don't torture your food beforehand. It's just not necessary. We're better than that.

This pretty much sums it up for me. Just because we're gonna kill something to consume its flesh doesn't mean we gotta be cruel to it beforehand.


Yep, same here.
 
2011-10-11 05:56:51 PM

jst3p: It would be cool if you could cross a pot bellied pig with an elephant and have little pot bellied elephants.


A pig and an elephant DNA just won't match.
 
2011-10-11 05:57:00 PM

jst3p: imgod2u: Most breeds of dogs aren't bred for flavor like pigs. But if it's tasty, I'll eat it.

Conversely, I'd love a trend of breeding various livestock as pets. Perhaps they'll have a strain of pigs.

It would be cool if you could cross a pot bellied pig with an elephant and have little pot bellied elephants.


I wonder what elephants taste like....
 
2011-10-11 06:06:43 PM
This is somewhat related to the thread, but american meat choices is pretty weak. Pork, beef, chicken, fish. You can't buy deer, rabbit, alligator, bison in most stores, and if you can, they are WAY out-priced by the big four. Venison, rabbit and alligator or bison are high protein, low fat, and absolutely delicious.

And mutton and/or lamb. LOVE it. My wife has never had it outside of gyros, which doesn't really count. $12.99 for approx 12 oz. of bone-in chop. Fark that.

And I would eat dog, no problem. Just not my dog.
 
2011-10-11 06:18:06 PM

R.A.Danny: jst3p: It would be cool if you could cross a pot bellied pig with an elephant and have little pot bellied elephants.

A pig and an elephant DNA just won't match splice .

 
2011-10-11 06:22:37 PM

jst3p: R.A.Danny: jst3p: It would be cool if you could cross a pot bellied pig with an elephant and have little pot bellied elephants.

A pig and an elephant DNA just won't match splice .


southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com
 
2011-10-11 06:57:16 PM

jst3p: R.A.Danny: jst3p: It would be cool if you could cross a pot bellied pig with an elephant and have little pot bellied elephants.

A pig and an elephant DNA just won't match splice .


My favorite Loverboy song!
 
2011-10-11 07:35:51 PM

Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?


If this is an example of one of the people that needs an eating, then yes.

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2011-10-11 10:37:40 PM
Hey guys, anyone hungry?

i1.trekearth.com
 
2011-10-12 12:27:06 AM
This just in : most people do whatever the hell they feel like and then rationalize it afterwards. There is really no right or wrong involved, just "We've always done it like this." and "I do what I want."
 
2011-10-12 12:52:45 AM

natmar_76: Hey guys, anyone hungry?

[i1.trekearth.com image 640x511]


Nah, I just ate chinese... but give me 20 min or so, I'll probably want another one then
 
2011-10-12 12:56:44 AM
My meat choices are purely based on emotion, not logic.

I don't eat pigs because I think they are intelligent and possibly unclean, and I confess I think they're cute. Same with dogs and cats, and I can't bring myself to eat goat or mutton, either.

I eat chickens because my family used to raise them, and man, are they dumb. Poultry in general, I'm okay with.

I don't believe that fish or shellfish are intelligent, either, so down the hatch they go.

I'm okay with eating wild game when it's used to control overpopulation. Same with cruelty-free beef.

Beef itself is an odd one. Following my "logic" (ie: emotions) above, I should want to avoid it, too, but I don't. Partly, I think, it's because it barely resembles its animal. Partly, it's because I've never been emotionally attached to cows. Partly, it's because when I was in my vegetarian and vegan years, beef was the one meat I constantly craved. I try to buy organic, grain-fed, all that, but deep down I know I am a hypocrite. :(
 
2011-10-12 02:48:44 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Congratulations on proving morality is relative. Now go eat puppy while you learn that bucking societal norms has consequences. You are free to do anything you want within the law. It doesn't make them all things you SHOULD do.


Trying to figure out what this comment means. How did someone show morality is relative, and what is immoral about eating one kind of animal? Either its immoral to eat animals or its not.
 
2011-10-12 02:52:42 AM

R.A.Danny: RexTalionis: Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.

Why does logic need to be part of this? Logically we shouldn't put emotion into what we eat, yet that is what PETA does on a daily basis. I adore dogs, I don't care about pigs. 100% emotional.


The objection to eating meat is often a moral one. People may feel emotionally about it, but that is not the basis for the judgment. Logic should absolutely be a part of rational decisions.
 
2011-10-12 03:05:17 AM
 
2011-10-12 04:39:14 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Congratulations on proving morality is relative.


I've tried to make that point before to people. No one can seem to get it through their heads. People seem stuck on the idea that there is a universal, unchanging "good" and "evil" and everyone sees it the same way they do.
 
2011-10-12 05:01:52 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: PC LOAD LETTER: Congratulations on proving morality is relative.

I've tried to make that point before to people. No one can seem to get it through their heads. People seem stuck on the idea that there is a universal, unchanging "good" and "evil" and everyone sees it the same way they do.


People can't get it through their heads because moral relativism is not an attractive position for most people. Certain actions and events seem incontrovertibly wrong, regardless of what ones society or religion my encourage.

But back to the main point, no one has "proved" morality is relative, and of course people are sticking to their moral convictions. Those are probably some of the deepest convictions people have.
 
2011-10-12 05:04:40 AM

rprygro: PC LOAD LETTER: Congratulations on proving morality is relative. Now go eat puppy while you learn that bucking societal norms has consequences. You are free to do anything you want within the law. It doesn't make them all things you SHOULD do.

Trying to figure out what this comment means. How did someone show morality is relative, and what is immoral about eating one kind of animal? Either its immoral to eat animals or its not.


Some people see it as immoral to eat dogs. Other's do not. Forest for the trees, bro.

imgod2u: I don't believe he mentioned that. I believe he mentioned that there are plenty of animals that have had close ties to human evolution since the very first human settlements and have cognitive abilities equal or better than dogs. Yet we blindly eat them with moral impunity.

And yes, it does make one kinda ticked to listen to emotional knee-jerk reactions disguised as some kind of scientific accuracy.


He is indeed making solid points. But people's emotional attachment blinds them to what they don't want to be true.

Dog lovers weird me out. I don't mean dog owners, but dog lovers. They seem to hold dogs as living gods and have a bizarre fervent passion for them that rivals that of deranged stalkers. They seem to view them as more important, more valuable, and more virtuous than anything else on the plant, their own existence included. It's creepy.
 
2011-10-12 05:09:08 AM

rprygro: People can't get it through their heads because moral relativism is not an attractive position for most people. Certain actions and events seem incontrovertibly wrong, regardless of what ones society or religion my encourage.


Agreed. I can't sympathize with that though. I'll take reality, no matter how unpleasant, over willfully cherry picking whatever events make me happy.

My ex was like that. The idea that I didn't believe in unchanging, universal good and evil disturbed her to her core. She was a big bag of a special kind of crazy though. That lying to herself bullshiat played a huge part in our breakup.
 
2011-10-12 05:09:12 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: rprygro: PC LOAD LETTER: Congratulations on proving morality is relative. Now go eat puppy while you learn that bucking societal norms has consequences. You are free to do anything you want within the law. It doesn't make them all things you SHOULD do.

Trying to figure out what this comment means. How did someone show morality is relative, and what is immoral about eating one kind of animal? Either its immoral to eat animals or its not.

Some people see it as immoral to eat dogs. Other's do not. Forest for the trees, bro.


And how exactly does that prove morality is relative? Be specific, now. A quick warning you'll probably want to consider: people thinking something is wrong does not make it wrong.
 
2011-10-12 05:12:38 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: rprygro: People can't get it through their heads because moral relativism is not an attractive position for most people. Certain actions and events seem incontrovertibly wrong, regardless of what ones society or religion my encourage.

Agreed. I can't sympathize with that though. I'll take reality, no matter how unpleasant, over willfully cherry picking whatever events make me happy.

My ex was like that. The idea that I didn't believe in unchanging, universal good and evil disturbed her to her core. She was a big bag of a special kind of crazy though. That lying to herself bullshiat played a huge part in our breakup.


I can personally understand that for sure, but you don't have to accept relativism to account for the fact that different people have different values. If you're interested in ethics at all, check out TM Scanlon's writing on moral contractualism.
 
2011-10-12 05:16:56 AM

rprygro:
And how exactly does that prove morality is relative? Be specific, now. A quick warning you'll probably want to consider: people thinking something is wrong does not make it wrong.


Sorry, but that's not true. Someone thinking that something is wrong does not automatically make it wrong to you. It does make it wrong to them.

Morality is nothing more than what we think is right and wrong. So, yes, if a person thinks that something is wrong then to them it IS wrong.

Now, you not seeing it as wrong to eat dogs (if that is indeed your feelings) doesn't change someone else thinking that it's wrong. You need to be able to put yourself in someone else's way of thinking.

Here's a perfect example. Abortions. I don't think that they are inherently wrong. Other people do. So, what makes it right or wrong? Who is right? Who is wrong? We both are. I'm right to me, they're right to themselves.

Morality is 100% dependent on what the individual perceives as good or bad. Such is the nature of morality.
 
2011-10-12 05:20:52 AM

rprygro: I can personally understand that for sure, but you don't have to accept relativism to account for the fact that different people have different values. If you're interested in ethics at all, check out TM Scanlon's writing on moral contractualism.


I've no problem with other people having different values. I see that as a given. I do have a problem with people lying to themselves and ignoring the truth in order to see something they way they want it to be. I understand that many people do that as a crutch to make it through the day, but I still see it as disingenuous.
 
2011-10-12 05:22:34 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: rprygro:
And how exactly does that prove morality is relative? Be specific, now. A quick warning you'll probably want to consider: people thinking something is wrong does not make it wrong.

Sorry, but that's not true. Someone thinking that something is wrong does not automatically make it wrong to you. It does make it wrong to them.

Morality is nothing more than what we think is right and wrong. So, yes, if a person thinks that something is wrong then to them it IS wrong.

Now, you not seeing it as wrong to eat dogs (if that is indeed your feelings) doesn't change someone else thinking that it's wrong. You need to be able to put yourself in someone else's way of thinking.

Here's a perfect example. Abortions. I don't think that they are inherently wrong. Other people do. So, what makes it right or wrong? Who is right? Who is wrong? We both are. I'm right to me, they're right to themselves.

Morality is 100% dependent on what the individual perceives as good or bad. Such is the nature of morality.


You're right, but not entirely. Someone can be offended and still not be right. They are not right because they are offended. Similarly, someone can think that something is wrong for bad reasons. The difference is justification. My point is, someone thinking something is wrong alone is not enough to say an action is wrong. There needs to be proper justification.
 
2011-10-12 05:24:29 AM

CtrlAltDestroy: rprygro: I can personally understand that for sure, but you don't have to accept relativism to account for the fact that different people have different values. If you're interested in ethics at all, check out TM Scanlon's writing on moral contractualism.

I've no problem with other people having different values. I see that as a given. I do have a problem with people lying to themselves and ignoring the truth in order to see something they way they want it to be. I understand that many people do that as a crutch to make it through the day, but I still see it as disingenuous.


The point is having different values does no entail relativism. Your argument doesn't hold.

Having a slow day at work, by the way, please don't mistake my tone for anything other than argumentative haha.
 
2011-10-12 05:28:58 AM

rprygro: You're right, but not entirely. Someone can be offended and still not be right.


Right to whom? Based on what?

They are not right because they are offended. Similarly, someone can think that something is wrong for bad reasons.

Bad to whom? Whose version of bad? Against which moral compass is it bad?

The difference is justification.

Who is justifying it? Are you justifying it? Because your justifications are ultimately meaningless to the person that you are interacting with.

My point is, someone thinking something is wrong alone is not enough to say an action is wrong. There needs to be proper justification.

To you. To many people thinking that it is wrong is enough justification to make it wrong. Not everyone is Dr. Spock. Some people are ruled by their emotions. To people like that what feels right and what feels wrong is all that matters.

I'm an INTJ. I prefer cold hard facts over emotions. However, Not everyone is the same way. Why is my morality and convictions better or more valid than someone else's?
 
2011-10-12 05:32:26 AM

rprygro: The point is having different values does no entail relativism. Your argument doesn't hold.

Having a slow day at work, by the way, please don't mistake my tone for anything other than argumentative haha.


I see your tone as a salon (classically speaking) style of debate. No malice detected.

I'm not really sure what point your trying to make here, though. I'm trying to say that people hold different values based entirely on what they perceive as right and wrong, which is subjective to each person and cannot be held to any universal standard.
 
2011-10-12 05:53:34 AM
Eh, gotta get moving. Hopefully I'll remember to check this thread later.
 
2011-10-12 05:58:09 AM

rprygro: But back to the main point, no one has "proved" morality is relative, and of course people are sticking to their moral convictions. Those are probably some of the deepest convictions people have.


Oh! One last thing. The fact that what is "right" and "wrong" changes depending on who you ask is a good argument for subjective morality. It sounds, in that phrasing, like you're trying to argue for a universal, unchanging, constant example of morality. If that is the case, then prove it.
 
2011-10-12 07:27:52 AM

rprygro: R.A.Danny: RexTalionis: Pigs are smart animals (smarter than a dog, anyway) with real personalities. I don't see how one can logically support eating pork and be against eating a dog.

Why does logic need to be part of this? Logically we shouldn't put emotion into what we eat, yet that is what PETA does on a daily basis. I adore dogs, I don't care about pigs. 100% emotional.

The objection to eating meat is often a moral one. People may feel emotionally about it, but that is not the basis for the judgment. Logic should absolutely be a part of rational decisions.


Why? Do people need to eat dog? Saying that logic must be part of the decision is akin to forcing dog,eat on them.
 
2011-10-12 09:21:18 AM
Bonkthat_Again [TotalFark] 2011-10-11 12:27:33 PM
As for the thread...dogs are domesticated. That's why we don't eat them.

o.O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domesticated_animals
Sheep
Pig (Sus scrofa domestica)
Goat
Cattle
Chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus)
Duck (Anas platyrhynchos domesticus)
Goose (Anser anser domesticus), (Anser cygnoides domesticus)
Domesticated guineafowl
Turkey


Nope, nothing menu-worthy there.
 
2011-10-12 12:02:53 PM
It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underpants
 
2011-10-12 02:08:05 PM
Dog meat is greasy and "weak".

Cook it with pickrel livers (walleye to Americans) in order to give it a vitamin boast.

I prefer a nice muskrat over an open fire myself.
 
2011-10-13 01:52:21 AM
People are slipping!

This thread was BEGGING for a Pulp Fiction troll in the first few posts... Probably would have gotten a lot of bites!
 
2011-10-13 04:47:52 PM

OnlyM3: Bonkthat_Again [TotalFark] 2011-10-11 12:27:33 PM
As for the thread...dogs are domesticated. That's why we don't eat them.
o.O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domesticated_animals
Sheep
Pig (Sus scrofa domestica)
Goat
Cattle
Chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus)
Duck (Anas platyrhynchos domesticus)
Goose (Anser anser domesticus), (Anser cygnoides domesticus)
Domesticated guineafowl
Turkey


Way to read past the first 2 sentences

Nope, nothing menu-worthy there.

 
2011-10-13 07:16:04 PM
I'm just posting this to say 'hello' to those of you who compulsively read the last post, like I do.

Hello! I hope your day is going well. Either way, I offer you hugs.

~hugs~
 
2011-10-13 08:58:07 PM

jadeblue: I'm just posting this to say 'hello' to those of you who compulsively read the last post, like I do.

Hello! I hope your day is going well. Either way, I offer you hugs.

~hugs~


Thank you for that.

Virtual hugs to you in return (and you. And you. And you back there trying to blend in with the shadows. And all you up there in the nosebleed section. And especially to you. Yes, you. You know who you are.)

/inveterate reader of all the credits after the movie ends since childhood.
//with the modern-day inclusions of post-credits stingers movies I have a more compelling reason to give those who ask me for one other than "well, all of those people worked hard to bring me this film (for good or bad) so it seems rude not to give them the time to acknowledge their names. And besides it's fun to learn the job titles on film sets. What is a "honeywagon driver" anyway? Wouldn't you like to be a "bee wrangler? Or John Lithgow's "Dialect Coach" on "Buckaroo Banzai...?""
 
2011-10-13 09:03:56 PM
/with the modern-day inclusions of post-credits stingers movies I have a more compelling reason to give...

ftfm

/would never eat dog meat.
//would rather starve.
///farrrrrrrrrrr from a P.E.T.A. supporter.
 
2011-10-14 12:25:21 PM

Pandora's Litterbox: Thank you for that.

Virtual hugs to you in return


You're very welcome! And thank you.

Also, I randomly bought "Buckaroo Banza..." a couple months ago, but haven't watched it yet.
 
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