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2011-10-11 01:42:18 PM
This guy too. He will fark up your shiat.

www.bobpitch.com
 
2011-10-11 01:42:53 PM

bidness: natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.

I don't have time on my lunch break to explain in detail just how wrong you are point by point. Just suffice it for now to say, go look up when dogs were domesticated vs. when cows were domesticated.


I'm giving up on him. Now he is tossing out buzzwords like "magic." For someone who tells people to be logical, he is not terribly willing to look at the facts.
 
2011-10-11 01:43:48 PM
Because carnivores make a poor economic choice as a domestic food animal?

And because doggies are cute and they wuv you.

In contrast, don't kid yourself why we eat cattle. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.
 
2011-10-11 01:45:02 PM

natmar_76: Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.


I don't think you're going back far enough.

Before we were a world of nations, we were a world of tribes; and before that, mere pack animals. Without dogs to stand guard at our camps, help us track and catch game, provide warmth and companionship, and, yes, even meat when necessary, some of the advancements which led us to form tribes and nations may have taken considerably longer, if they happened at all.

Surely, our history would have unfolded in an altogether different way without dogs. I believe that is the point the poster in question was trying to make.
 
2011-10-11 01:47:33 PM

natmar_76: If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle


Dogs were domesticated thousands of years before any other animal. In fact, it's probably due to the assistance of dogs - through herding (a modified hunting instinct) - that we managed to domesticate any of our livestock.
 
2011-10-11 01:48:03 PM

karnal: Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.


I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.


You're right.
She also ate rice and fish.
 
2011-10-11 01:48:50 PM
Tax Boy

Because carnivores make a poor economic choice as a domestic food animal?

And because doggies are cute and they wuv you.

In contrast, don't kid yourself why we eat cattle. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.



Years ago at camp we were set up next to some cows in a field.....and late one night a buddy and I took this jar of peanut butter and ........well, suffice it to say - cows love peanut butter.
 
2011-10-11 01:48:53 PM

gshepnyc: Dogs and then sheep were first. Cattle were down the line later.


Just like a furry orgy.
 
2011-10-11 01:49:00 PM

Zmog: Sarcastica75: Zmog: The Internet, where everyone is presumed male until proven otherwise.

actually, i kind of prefer it that way. i would most prefer to be perceived genderless, but i'll take male over the usual nonsense chicks who aren't here to announce how big their boob sizes are in comparison with a celebrity and otherwise fishing for compliments and e-cock have to put up with. which is why tfd bores me to no end.

/except the jorie threads. that's worth the $5 for the wtflolbbq factor.

All right, you win. I will not send e-cock.


I refuse to make such a comment as PIE may be needed to get BIE. It's part of the rules of BIE you know.
 
2011-10-11 01:49:42 PM

Aupey: She also ate rice and fish.


So that's what happened to my twin puppies Rice and Fish!
 
2011-10-11 01:49:57 PM

varmitydog: SuperMeekrat : Considering i just put my beloved Amber to sleep this morning, I hope he DIAF wearing polyester.

I am sorry about the loss of your dog. Just remember the rainbow bridge. Link


Thank you.
/Alternately, i think they're under the table at the infinite card game at my grandmother's house... (favorite spot for me at a wee one, with the dog, of course.)
 
2011-10-11 01:51:06 PM
Aupey

karnal: Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.


I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.

You're right.
She also ate rice and fish.


Actually it was tuna pie.....I believe.
 
2011-10-11 01:52:52 PM
I have said this same thing before myself. I always thought it was kind of weird that some people argue how it's ok to eat some animals because they're "farm" animals but it's definitely not ok to eat dogs and cats because they're "companion" animals. It's like some kind of animal caste system. I would bet that pigs and cows are just as intelligent and capable of feeling pain as dogs and cats.

Another animal comparison I have often thought about is dogs vs coyotes. Dogs and coyotes are so similar that they can breed and produce viable offspring. But despite that, people will treat their dogs like their children, yet they will shoot at, trap, and skin coyotes like it's nothing. What's up with that?

//just to note: I'm not a vegetarian.
//I'm more than happy to eat whatever tastes good and is relatively convenient to farm.
 
2011-10-11 01:53:16 PM

karnal: Aupey

karnal: Aupey

My mom ate dog in the Philippines and when she went outside of the restaurant a dog was barking at her.
She hid under a vehicle after that.
...She was drunk.


I knew your mom when she was in the Philippines.....that's not all she ate.

You're right.
She also ate rice and fish.

Actually it was tuna pie.....I believe.


Nah.
Surprisingly, she's never had tuna.
Well, I'm out.
 
2011-10-11 01:57:14 PM
Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.

However, in a pinch, any dog will do. But remember, black dogs taste bad, yellow dogs taste best.

//Guess they're overly ripe
//So I've heard, did not try the 보신탕
 
2011-10-11 01:59:03 PM

karnal: Sarcastica75

Zmog: If you look real hard, you'll notice a pet pig in this picture.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x550]

/artificial construct indeed

I'm disappointed in myself because it broke down like this:

1. GIRL, LOOKAHDEMSHOOS.
2. Is that a Laughing Cow T-shirt? AWESOME!
3. PIGGY! \o/
4. Say, she's hot. (The girl, not the piggy.)

you noticed the shoes first? Ahhh - yeah.....that's not gay.


Pretty sure Sarcastica75 is a lady.

/could be wrong, but don't think so
 
2011-10-11 01:59:05 PM
t0.gstatic.com
I say we drink the wine, eat the dogs, and use the papers for musket wadding.

Reverend: Eat the dogs?!

Benjamin: Aye, dog is a fine meal.
 
2011-10-11 01:59:11 PM

gshepnyc: 5,000 years is meaningless given 10,000-25,000 year window? Really?

And calling what amounts to a mutual domestication between humans and dogs "magic" or not logical just because you have strong opinions but no education on the subject doesn't make your statement any stronger.


Your trolling is pretty good, but I'm going to continue pointing out your ridiculous logical errors.

1. Strawman: Magic is in reference to your implication that a special relationship exists (magically) between humans and dogs because of a mere difference of a few thousand years between domestication of dogs and cattle

2. Ad hominem: implying no education and emotional (ergo poor) decisions

3. Circular fallacy/Correlation: human-dog relations (lol) are somehow special because human-dog domestication occured before human-cattle domestication because human-dog relations are special

4. Argument of Ignorance/Ad Nauseum: 5000 years is a long time! That must be special! (no, it's not; we domesticate because we can, from dogs to cattle to dolphins)

5. Cherry Picking: ignoring any and all cogent arguments that do not accept the mystical poetic assertion that human-dog relations are special and magical above and beyond any other domestication, despite many other domesticated species being more intelligent and useful than dogs.

Animals are just animals. Meat is just meat. We eat people, when we need to, from the Chilean plane crash to the Oregon Trail to remote tribes that practice ritual consumption. We eat every kind of a
 
2011-10-11 01:59:45 PM

xip_80: But despite that, people will treat their dogs like their children, yet they will shoot at, trap, and skin coyotes like it's nothing. What's up with that?


People shoot at and trap feral dogs as well.
 
2011-10-11 02:01:26 PM

Irving Maimway: Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.


What Black Angus might look like:

imagehost.vendio.com
 
2011-10-11 02:01:47 PM

natmar_76: gshepnyc: No other two species on the planet have the relationship - including shared history and interdependence - that humans and dogs have. We relied on one another to get to the stage we find ourselves in today. That is more than enough reason not to eat a dog.

What an overstatement, and not remotely true.

If anything, the most valuable animal to humanity is cattle. While dogs were sniffing each other's butts in the jungle, humans had domesticated cattle and were using them to plow farms, using them for milk and sustenance, eating them when they grew old, and using their skins for clothing. Entire nations have been fed on cattle meat while dogs sat around doing not much of anything.

Other animals such as horses have been just as important, if not much more important, as travel and war companions. When was the last time you heard about a famed dog cavalry breaking the lines of an enemy army? Yeah, you didn't, because it was horses that threw themselves onto pikes because of the relations that they formed with their human masters.

Cats have been just as important. Who have people turned to consistently for pest control, to kill rats on farms? That's right, cats, because dogs are too dumb to catch mice.

You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.




1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-11 02:02:14 PM

R.A.Danny: thismomentinblackhistory: If your pig died would you take off work?

Maybe to quarter him and put him in the freezer.


You I like.

/loves animals
//eaten dog
 
2011-10-11 02:02:18 PM
Beating a moral reltativist with your fist is just as invigorating as punching a bag of rice.
 
2011-10-11 02:03:01 PM

natmar_76:
You can like dogs all you want, but claiming they've helped humanity evolve is patently ridiculous.


Oh my, after reading that I'm surprised you know how to type and use a computer to log onto the Internet.
 
2011-10-11 02:06:18 PM
I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.
 
2011-10-11 02:08:22 PM

natmar_76: Your trolling is pretty good


No, YOU!
 
2011-10-11 02:11:56 PM
i had dog meat years ago in Mexico city ...
I like to know that my meat probably had a name ... I just hope it was organic. Horse meat it tough ... snake is ok ... alligator tail was good ... I could not eat rat when i was in Peru ... that was to far ...
I think eating at many fast food places is disgusting ...
 
2011-10-11 02:12:01 PM

natmar_76: I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.


I agree with you on the meat is meat.

What I have a problem with is you seem to ignore what the dog has done throughout its 15,000 year relationship with man. And to say dogs are not smart just helps demonstration your ignorance.

Biatch about it, dog hater
 
2011-10-11 02:13:01 PM
i hear that dog tastes kind of like goat meat, gamy and stringy.

not eating either one. i had some monkey meat in the Philippines. It was kinda like chicken as i recall. also, i ate a chick once in a cutlass olds. she tasted like heaven. :)
 
2011-10-11 02:15:06 PM
aside from the paws I cant tell the difference between dog or pork on the shelf...



NSFW or Lunch just to be safe lets say if you have a weak stomach and cant handle looking at meat do not click this link!

Link (new window)
 
2011-10-11 02:17:43 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Can a pig sense that you are sick and cuddle with you when you are bedridden? Does a pig freak out when you come home? Does a pig whimper when you're angry? Does a pig plop his head on your leg when you are crying? If your pig died would you take off work?


upload.wikimedia.org

Robert did.
 
2011-10-11 02:18:00 PM

R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Cythraul: R.A.Danny: Logically this planet would be better off with 75% fewer humans. Why must we be such hypocrites?

Are you suggesting we start to eat other people?

No, I'm the emotional guy that thinks puppies should be cuddled.

Humans need cuddling too.

I agree 100%.


This is why I cuddle with my puppy. It makes us both happy. Plus my puppy is so cute.
He are a big sweetie, yes him are. With him big puppy eyes and cute puppy nosey and pink tongue to give kisses. And with many feet and many paws so he can play more than anybody else! He is just the sweetiest little sugar butt!
 
2011-10-11 02:18:29 PM
Puppy? No, thanks. Casserole du lapin? Mais bien sûr!
 
2011-10-11 02:23:24 PM
i.imgur.com

damn right!!
 
2011-10-11 02:25:37 PM
..a dog that good, you don't eat all at once!

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-10-11 02:27:29 PM
thumbnails.hulu.com
 
2011-10-11 02:29:03 PM
I like pigs just as much as dogs, and I'd eat either one of them. You cutesy wutesy people are hilarious.

PIG HATERS!!!
 
2011-10-11 02:30:10 PM

natmar_76: I love all the counter-arguments, which boil down basically to "nu uh, dogs rule, dogs were first". Cows or dogs first, the point is the same.

Dogs being first means shiat. Dogs didn't descend out of heaven and choose humans to live with because it was a holy ordained special magic event. We domesticated every domesticated species because we could, because we are smarter, because we are better than animals.

Dogs smell like shiat. They aren't that smart. Love them all you want (yuck), but they deserve no special ranking above cows, dolphins, cats, pigs, or any other animal.

Muscle is meat. There is nothing wrong with eating it (assuming you believe eating some types of meat is not wrong). Until you can provide a logical, reasonable proof that there is a significant moral difference (ex. humans, normally) between dog meat and the meat of dolphins or pigs, then you are wrong and not worth listening to.

Cry about it, dog lovers.


Awwww, someone pee in your Wheaties today?

The only one crying about anything in this thread is you.
 
2011-10-11 02:30:33 PM
www.greatdogsite.com

Only missing the bun?
 
2011-10-11 02:34:54 PM
nstutsman

damn right!!


So is that pic condoning eating dogs? Go Mercy For Animals! eheheh
 
2011-10-11 02:46:14 PM
ya I've heard that before and guess what, I still wont eat a dog, unless it's absolutely neccesary that I do.
Pigs have personality too, but they also have bacon so...
 
2011-10-11 02:48:09 PM
cache.gawker.com
 
2011-10-11 02:52:10 PM
oblig Link (new window)
 
2011-10-11 02:54:36 PM

Irving Maimway: Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.

However, in a pinch, any dog will do. But remember, black dogs taste bad, yellow dogs taste best.


Would it be the opposite in Africa, I wonder?
 
2011-10-11 03:12:21 PM
Like that comedian said years ago, "save the dolphins fark the tuna"
 
2011-10-11 03:13:08 PM

elev8meL8r: Irving Maimway: Spent 6 years in Korea. Not all dogs are considered edible. There's a certain breed that's been cultivated for tastiness. Much like Black Angus.

However, in a pinch, any dog will do. But remember, black dogs taste bad, yellow dogs taste best.

Would it be the opposite in Africa, I wonder?


CSB: Taking a driving tour of a game preserve in South Africa (all of us white Americans), we pull up to view, from a safe distance, a pride of lions chilling in the sun. Our guide (African, not an Afrikaaner) says "Oh by the way, if the lions charge, I'm going to be the only one who's safe. They don't like dark meat."
 
2011-10-11 03:15:32 PM
I probably would not be able to eat a puppy, but I've often thought the skin on their bellies would make great glove inserts.
 
2011-10-11 03:31:05 PM
But we need an emergency food supply:

oishiianime.com
 
2011-10-11 03:32:16 PM
Evidence for dog cohabitation goes back 14,000 years. Domestication has been traced through the dog genome to northern china where they were raised as livestock.

We don't eat them here because we're generally emotionally attached
 
2011-10-11 03:33:12 PM
cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com
 
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