/ that'll show 'em
// in before 30,000 pounds ... of derrrrrrrrrrp

If we let money for medicine dry up, the 'problem' will resolve itself just like magic. The magic of death.

GoodyearPimp: If we let money for medicine dry up, the 'problem' will resolve itself just like magic. The magic of death.

MAGIC OF DEATH? LIKE THE RITE OF ASHKENTE?

GoodyearPimp: If we let money for medicine dry up, the 'problem' will resolve itself just like magic. The magic of death.

Least we will solve unemployment with grave diggers.

More far-reaching proposals that would affect current holders of low deductible Medigap plans would save even more -- as much as $93 billion over 10 years, according to the CBO.

That's not much impact in the budget as a whole. What's the point?

FooDog: GoodyearPimp: If we let money for medicine dry up, the 'problem' will resolve itself just like magic. The magic of death.

MAGIC OF DEATH? LIKE THE RITE OF ASHKENTE?

You know it can be performed with 4cc's of mouse blood and three small sticks, right?

So the Republicans now want to alienate the senior vote?

My father-in-law is pretty hard-core conservative, and even he's starting to grumble about the Republicans. While he might not vote Democrat, it's more likely he simply won't vote. Disenfranchise the seniors enough and it might not mean an uptick in votes for Dems, but it might mean a drop in votes for Repubs...

While the elderly buy the private plans, studies suggest they boost government Medicare costs as the extra coverage for deductibles and co-pays encourages greater use of medical services. That, in turn, pushes up costs for Medicare, which has to pay for its portion of the care.

Sounds reasonable enough. Now how about we stop allowing the giant drug companies to advertise "Fixitol" to old people who go begging their doctors for it regardless of need?

Have any of you haters considered just how much this will benefit bankruptcy attorneys? Wont somebody please think of the attorneys?!

A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

veedeevadeevoodee: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 640x353]

/ that'll show 'em
// in before 30,000 pounds ... of derrrrrrrrrrp

The one on the left has an impressive mustache for a chick.

Republicans trying to commit political suicide since 1992. Why do the Dems keep
taking the noose off their necks?

Yeah, trade one bone for corporations for another, different flavored, bone for corporations while Occupy is chanting outside the windows. That will go over well....

sparkeyjames: Republicans trying to commit political suicide since 1992. Why do the Dems keep
taking the noose off their necks?

They're trying to appear centrist by taking off the nooses and putting them on their own necks.

Shaggy_C: While the elderly buy the private plans, studies suggest they boost government Medicare costs as the extra coverage for deductibles and co-pays encourages greater use of medical services. That, in turn, pushes up costs for Medicare, which has to pay for its portion of the care.

Sounds reasonable enough. Now how about we stop allowing the giant drug companies to advertise "Fixitol" to old people who go begging their doctors for it regardless of need?

Yeah, I'm having trouble being outraged by the proposal that super low-deductible plans should cost more because they cost Medicare more. If someone doesn't want to be surprised by out of pocket costs then they'll still have the option for paying a larger premium up-front for it, kinda like non-old person insurance.

\I understand why changing it for current policyholders would suck, though.

cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

I liked Carlin's plan better.

"You can talk about capital punishment all you want, but I don't think you can leave everything up to the government. Citizens should be willing to take personal responsibility. Every now and then, you've got to do the right thing, and go out and kill someone on your own. I believe the killing of human beings is a function of government that needs to be privatized.

I say this because I believe most people know at least once other person they wish were dead. One other person whose death would make their life a little easier. A sexual rival; and abuser; a tormentor at school; a parent who's been draining the family nest egg by lingering too long on life support. Don't run from it.

So, I offer a plan: Legal Murder Once a Month

Under this plan, every thirty days each person in America will be allowed to kill one other person without incurring any punishment. One murder, per person, per month. But you can't just kill anybody. It's not random. Each month there will be a different type of person it's ok to kill. For instance, one month it would be all right to kill a business associate. That month, kill anybody at work - no punishment. But you must have a good reason; none of this weak shiat, "I caught him farking my wife." It has to be a good reason. Like "The guy is just a real asshole!" Kill-a-neighbor-day, a perfect way to settle an old score, and upgrade the neighborhood. And just to provide a little flexibility, a neighbor will be considered anyone who lives in your zip code.

You know, now that I think of it, it would probably make sense to have Wild-Card-Day. One day a year when everyone can go out and kill whomever the fark they want. Many of us have long lists of specific, worthy targets who don't fall into any of the established categories. Retail clerks, landlords, teachers, salesmen, telephone solicitors; the snotty blond biatch on the "Six o Clock News"? The guy who keeps braying "Thank God, no one was hurt", every time someone so much as backs into a lamppost.

Now, let me quickly point out that my Legal Murder Once a Month plan has 3 strict rules: First, it isn't cumulative, you can't save up all your murders for a year and then go waltzing into McDonalds and spoil everyone's Egg McMuffin. You get one murder a month, use it or lose it.

Rule #2: You can't hire someone to do the murder for you. You have to do it yourself. And if you're squeamish, take my word for it, you'll get over that. There's nothing to it. I, myself, have killed six people. All random, undetected, no traces back to me. And let me tell you, there's nothing like it. It's a great feelings. Yeah I know, you're thinking "Aw, he's a comedian. He's just saying that stuff." Good, that's exactly what I wan't you to think.

Rule #3: You can't kill your own offspring, it's just off limits. OK? If they're really that bad, they'll piss someone else off, and that person will handle it for you.

For all you civic-minded dipshiats, there's nothing in the constitution to prevent any of this. The state doesn't oppose murder, just people who go into business for themselves. Life is cheap, never forget it. Corporations make market decisions by weighing the cost of being sued for your death against the cost of making the product safer. Your life is a factor in cost effectiveness. Besides, my society taught me that murder is part of life. My species is really good at it. I belong to the only species in the history of the world that systematically tortures and murders it's own members for pleasure, profit, and convenience.

See how easily we figured all that out."

sinschild: cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

I liked Carlin's plan better.

"You can talk about capital punishment all you want, but I don't think you can leave everything up to the government. Citizens should be willing to take personal responsibility. Every now and then, you've got to do the right thing, and go out and kill someone on your own. I believe the killing of human beings is a function of government that needs to be privatized.

I say this because I believe most people know at least once other person they wish were dead. One other person whose death would make their life a little easier. A sexual rival; and abuser; a tormentor at school; a parent who's been draining the family nest egg by lingering too long on life support. Don't run from it.

So, I offer a plan: Legal Murder Once a Month

Under this plan, every thirty days each person in America will be allowed to kill one other person without incurring any punishment. One murder, per person, per month. But you can't just kill anybody. It's not random. Each month there will be a different type of person it's ok to kill. For instance, one month it would be all right to kill a business associate. That month, kill anybody at work - no punishment. But you must have a good reason; none of this weak shiat, "I caught him farking my wife." It has to be a good reason. Like "The guy is just a real asshole!" Kill-a-neighbor-day, a perfect way to settle an old score, and upgrade the neighborhood. And just to provide a little flexibility, a neighbor will be considered anyone who lives in your zip code.

You know, now that I think of it, it would probably make sense to have Wild-Card-Day. One day a year when everyone can go out and kill whomever the fark they want. Many of us have long lists of specific, worthy targets who don't fall into any of the established categories. Retail clerks, landlords, teachers, salesmen, telephone solicitors; the snotty blond biatch on the "Six o Clock News"? The guy who keeps braying "Thank God, no one was hurt", every time someone so much as backs into a lamppost.

Now, let me quickly point out that my Legal Murder Once a Month plan has 3 strict rules: First, it isn't cumulative, you can't save up all your murders for a year and then go waltzing into McDonalds and spoil everyone's Egg McMuffin. You get one murder a month, use it or lose it.

Rule #2: You can't hire someone to do the murder for you. You have to do it yourself. And if you're squeamish, take my word for it, you'll get over that. There's nothing to it. I, myself, have killed six people. All random, undetected, no traces back to me. And let me tell you, there's nothing like it. It's a great feelings. Yeah I know, you're thinking "Aw, he's a comedian. He's just saying that stuff." Good, that's exactly what I wan't you to think.

Rule #3: You can't kill your own offspring, it's just off limits. OK? If they're really that bad, they'll piss someone else off, and that person will handle it for you.

For all you civic-minded dipshiats, there's nothing in the constitution to prevent any of this. The state doesn't oppose murder, just people who go into business for themselves. Life is cheap, never forget it. Corporations make market decisions by weighing the cost of being sued for your death against the cost of making the product safer. Your life is a factor in cost effectiveness. Besides, my society taught me that murder is part of life. My species is really good at it. I belong to the only species in the history of the world that systematically tortures and murders it's own members for pleasure, profit, and convenience.

See how easily we figured all that out."

My room mate was actually thinking that was a viable good idea. He also thinks prisoner deathmatch is a good idea.

While the elderly buy the private plans, studies suggest they boost government Medicare costs as the extra coverage for deductibles and co-pays encourages greater use of medical services. That, in turn, pushes up costs for Medicare, which has to pay for its portion of the care.


But free health care for eveyone will save a ton of money. Right?

cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism


Approves

So to keep down medicare costs we have to prevent old people from buying insurance that covers costs that medicare doesn't cover???

We are farked. Does anybody know where the RESET button is?

cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

This will never work. First off, it only costs $10-20 million to get yourself a guaranteed out for a first degree murder charge, so the economics of the transaction aren't very favorable. You need to give them something that would be worth the $80 million extra. My suggestion: Taxidermy rights. You take them to Chuck Testa ^ and he poses them according to your instructions. You can put a gun in their hand and a word balloon saying how they were threatening your kin.

Secondly, most of the unemployed are married and/or have kids. It's pretty cruel to leave these poor kids without a caregiver. So, you either need to give the survivors some of the money from the fee... okay, that will never work. Oh! The fee should let you harvest the whole family. You'll have to pay a penalty if any of them are working, but you get that waived if any of them are nearing retirement.

Sounds good. The alternative is letting the Republicans screw people without money and the Democrats coughing and shifting their eyes.

"WASHINGTON - Sixty-six former aides to lawmakers serving on a congressional panel charged with finding ways to slash the federal deficit have represented powerful defense and health care industries that face colossal cuts in government spending, a new analysis shows.

Thirty-four former aides to members of the deficit-cutting "supercommittee" have lobbied on behalf of hospitals, drugmakers and other health care industries, according to a tally of congressional lobbying data through June prepared for USA TODAY by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics. Four have worked as registered lobbyists on behalf of defense companies. An additional 28 have lobbied for both sectors."

That adds up to about 60% of the 109 current and former federal lobbyists who have worked for panel members."
--- USA Today Link (new window)


This is THE problem. get the mob bagmen and legbreakers (lobbyists) out of politics and then we can address the other issues. Until these farkers are run out, it's all just theater - pointless, heartbreaking theater.

OCCUPY K Street.

The_Terminator: cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

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Approves

The problem is Americans don't make very sporting prey. They'd be collapsed and wheezing at 50 yards.

Illegals from Mexico are much more interesting targets. They are used to running for their lives and dodging bullets.

Hollie Maea: Sounds good. The alternative is letting the Republicans screw people without money and the Democrats coughing and shifting their eyes.

One hand washes the other now. Politicians and corporations have hijacked our democracy so that all of the burden of their failure is placed on The People while we are forced to support their increasing cavalier manipulation of the economy to try and extract ever increasing profits.

We really need to tear it all down and start over. Begin with the Constitution and add what we have learned to keep business in check and working to build society and not just leech off of it.

Benni K Rok: My room mate was actually thinking that was a viable good idea. He also thinks prisoner deathmatch is a good idea.

I'd be worried; your roommate is a psychopath and may murder you in your sleep.

nmemkha
We really need to tear it all down and start over. Begin with the Constitution and add what we have learned to keep business in check and working to build society and not just leech off of it.

So you think killing the host will help the parasites...interesting.

MFL: nmemkha
We really need to tear it all down and start over. Begin with the Constitution and add what we have learned to keep business in check and working to build society and not just leech off of it.

So you think killing the host will help the parasites...interesting.

You have that backward. The 1% are the leeches.

Paying a few more percent in taxes vs being able to afford life altering medicine.

Yep. They being screwed equally alright.

cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

I think we should end unemployment benefits and instead everyone gets a Glock and three full clips.

/if nothing else it'll shut the NRA up for two minutes

Dwight_Yeast: Benni K Rok: My room mate was actually thinking that was a viable good idea. He also thinks prisoner deathmatch is a good idea.

I'd be worried; your roommate is a psychopath and may murder you in your sleep.

He can't afford the rent on his own. He knows better.

whither_apophis: /if nothing else it'll shut the NRA up for two minutes

Mainly because I'd track down Wayne LaPierre first.

/anti-NRA
//not anti-gun

Tell me the Obama administration doesn't want to micro-manage your life....................looks around the room and points........


YOU - HAVE to buy insurance or we will fine you.

YOU - actually BOUGHT insurance so we're going to fine YOU.

cchris_39: Tell me the Obama administration doesn't want to micro-manage your life....................looks around the room and points........


YOU - HAVE to buy insurance or we will fine you.

YOU - actually BOUGHT insurance so we're going to fine YOU.

Wut? Clarify that last point maybe.

cchris_39: Tell me the Obama administration doesn't want to micro-manage your life....................looks around the room and points........


YOU - HAVE to buy insurance or we will fine you.

YOU - actually BOUGHT insurance so we're going to fine YOU.

Glad I'm getting my socialized American medicine. Thanks taxpayers.

sinschild: cgraves67: A modest proposal:

$100 million buys you a hunting permit good for harvesting one unemployed American. One permit per hunter at a time, but no limit on the total number purchased per year. Each animal harvested must be registered with the Dept. of Labor. Maximum number of permits for sale is equal to 5% of the total number of people on unemployment benefits.

Thereby resolving:
unemployment rate
budget deficit

improves:
tourism

I liked Carlin's plan better.

"You can talk about capital punishment all you want, but I don't think you can leave everything up to the government. Citizens should be willing to take personal responsibility. Every now and then, you've got to do the right thing, and go out and kill someone on your own. I believe the killing of human beings is a function of government that needs to be privatized.

I say this because I believe most people know at least once other person they wish were dead. One other person whose death would make their life a little easier. A sexual rival; and abuser; a tormentor at school; a parent who's been draining the family nest egg by lingering too long on life support. Don't run from it.

So, I offer a plan: Legal Murder Once a Month

Under this plan, every thirty days each person in America will be allowed to kill one other person without incurring any punishment. One murder, per person, per month. But you can't just kill anybody. It's not random. Each month there will be a different type of person it's ok to kill. For instance, one month it would be all right to kill a business associate. That month, kill anybody at work - no punishment. But you must have a good reason; none of this weak shiat, "I caught him farking my wife." It has to be a good reason. Like "The guy is just a real asshole!" Kill-a-neighbor-day, a perfect way to settle an old score, and upgrade the neighborhood. And just to provide a little flexibility, a neighbor will be considered anyone who lives in your zip code.

You know, now that I think of it, it would probably make sense to have Wild-Card-Day. One day a year when everyone can go out and kill whomever the fark they want. Many of us have long lists of specific, worthy targets who don't fall into any of the established categories. Retail clerks, landlords, teachers, salesmen, telephone solicitors; the snotty blond biatch on the "Six o Clock News"? The guy who keeps braying "Thank God, no one was hurt", every time someone so much as backs into a lamppost.

Now, let me quickly point out that my Legal Murder Once a Month plan has 3 strict rules: First, it isn't cumulative, you can't save up all your murders for a year and then go waltzing into McDonalds and spoil everyone's Egg McMuffin. You get one murder a month, use it or lose it.

Rule #2: You can't hire someone to do the murder for you. You have to do it yourself. And if you're squeamish, take my word for it, you'll get over that. There's nothing to it. I, myself, have killed six people. All random, undetected, no traces back to me. And let me tell you, there's nothing like it. It's a great feelings. Yeah I know, you're thinking "Aw, he's a comedian. He's just saying that stuff." Good, that's exactly what I wan't you to think.

Rule #3: You can't kill your own offspring, it's just off limits. OK? If they're really that bad, they'll piss someone else off, and that person will handle it for you.

For all you civic-minded dipshiats, there's nothing in the constitution to prevent any of this. The state doesn't oppose murder, just people who go into business for themselves. Life is cheap, never forget it. Corporations make market decisions by weighing the cost of being sued for your death against the cost of making the product safer. Your life is a factor in cost effectiveness. Besides, my society taught me that murder is part of life. My species is really good at it. I belong to the only species in the history of the world that systematically tortures and murders it's own members for pleasure, profit, and convenience.

See how easily we figured all that out."

Good TV show idea, but how are we going to solve our deficit problems when half of all taxpayers are dead? How can we defend ourselves, or keep a stable economy?

EnviroDude: Remember when President Obama said he was going to get the lobbyists out of politics in DC? Yeah, that worked out well.

Candidate Obama pledged that no lobbyists would work in his White House. As a newly-arrived president, he reiterated that promise.

Announcing "firm rules of the road for my administration and all who serve in it" in January 2009, the president said, "We need to close the revolving door that lets lobbyists come into government freely and lets them use their time in public service as a way to promote their own interests over the interests of the American people when they leave."

Yes, Government has been infected. Our Government. Let's kill the pathogen, not the patient.

veedeevadeevoodee: // in before 30,000 pounds ... of derrrrrrrrrrp

Perhaps this should've gone at the beginning of your post. you know, for consistency

coeyagi: Wut? Clarify that last point maybe.

FTA -

In his submission to the super committee, Obama proposed a 30 percent surcharge on premiums for new Medicare beneficiaries who buy low deductible Medigap plans starting in 2017.

That's a fine for buying insurance.

inkblot: Good TV show idea, but how are we going to solve our deficit problems when half of all taxpayers are dead? How can we defend ourselves, or keep a stable economy?

You say that like we're doing well defending ourselves now and that we have a stable economy now. I say screw it, lets do it. We've been trying trickle down economics for 30 farking years and it hasn't worked. The least we'll have after 30 years of killing each other every month is far fewer assholes. I promise to stimulate the economy by flying to Arizona and hunting my father in law, how does that sound?

cchris_39: coeyagi: Wut? Clarify that last point maybe.

FTA -

In his submission to the super committee, Obama proposed a 30 percent surcharge on premiums for new Medicare beneficiaries who buy low deductible Medigap plans starting in 2017.

That's a fine for buying insurance.

Oh, ok, I thought you meant an actual fine as well as something that might actually affect a large number of people. Sorry, I mistook you for a non-troll. My bad!

Felgraf: FooDog: GoodyearPimp: If we let money for medicine dry up, the 'problem' will resolve itself just like magic. The magic of death.

MAGIC OF DEATH? LIKE THE RITE OF ASHKENTE?

You know it can be performed with 4cc's of mouse blood and three small sticks, right?

ONLY IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STYLE OF THE THING.

inkblot:
*Carlin*

Good TV show idea, but how are we going to solve our deficit problems when half of all taxpayers are dead? How can we defend ourselves, or keep a stable economy?

If we could climb
the highest steeple
And look around at
all the people,
And shoot the ones
not wholly good
As we, like noble
shooters,should,
Why,then there'd be
an only worry...
Who would there be left
to bury
us?

-W. Kelly

coeyagi: Oh, ok, I thought you meant an actual fine as well as something that might actually affect a large number of people. Sorry, I mistook you for a non-troll. My bad!

I'm guessing that was sarcasm.

As far as affecting a large number of people, there are 40 million+ retirees on Medicare, so yes it does affect a large number.

Be as partisan as you want but let's be intellectually honest about what's going on here. You can call it a surcharge or a tax or anything you want to, but it's a government imposed monetary penalty, so I'm going to call it a fine. Because that's exactly what it is. If you labor under the illusion that Obama wants everybody to have insurance and "access to affordable healthcare", yet penalizes me as a private individual for going out and privately contracting for health insurance out of my own pocket, and charges me a 30% penalty, you illusion should be over.

Here's what it comes down to:

If you are young and healthy, Obama wants you to buy insurance or pay a fine. But if you are older and not so healthy and actually do buy insurance, he wants you to pay a fine for that too.

That's a bunch of bullshiat.

Supercommittee considering letting Republicans screw people without money in return for Democrats screwing people with money

If the goal is to create a population without money, that sounds like a good plan.

cchris_39: coeyagi: Oh, ok, I thought you meant an actual fine as well as something that might actually affect a large number of people. Sorry, I mistook you for a non-troll. My bad!

I'm guessing that was sarcasm.

As far as affecting a large number of people, there are 40 million+ retirees on Medicare, so yes it does affect a large number.

Be as partisan as you want but let's be intellectually honest about what's going on here. You can call it a surcharge or a tax or anything you want to, but it's a government imposed monetary penalty, so I'm going to call it a fine. Because that's exactly what it is. If you labor under the illusion that Obama wants everybody to have insurance and "access to affordable healthcare", yet penalizes me as a private individual for going out and privately contracting for health insurance out of my own pocket, and charges me a 30% penalty, you illusion should be over.

Here's what it comes down to:

If you are young and healthy, Obama wants you to buy insurance or pay a fine. But if you are older and not so healthy and actually do buy insurance, he wants you to pay a fine for that too.

That's a bunch of bullshiat.

You must also want to take a crowbar to ATMs that charge you a "fine". Btw, you must be a tea bagger who wants government to keep their hands off Medicare. Look, it's low deductible insurance, kinda like when you buy car insurance at a higher rate for a lower deductible.

Insurance- how does it work?