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(Adbusters)   See how buddy buddy Fortune 100 companies really are   (theyrule.net) divider line 36
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2001-11-03 12:08:08 AM
i dun gettit
 
2001-11-03 12:09:14 AM
neither do I
 
2001-11-03 12:11:40 AM
opps, site requires a pop-up window. Pop-ups are evil. PanicWare (panicware.com) killed that safely for me:)

(no, I am not a whore/slut/salesperson for that product)
 
2001-11-03 12:11:44 AM
what the hell's my name doing on that site!?
 
2001-11-03 12:13:15 AM
enter site, click on "Load Map" and then "7 most powerful"
 
2001-11-03 12:24:10 AM
Pick a bunch of companies and it shows you how they are related... I think
 
2001-11-03 12:26:40 AM
They are trying too hard to have an edgy site construction.
A simpler format would be more convincing.
 
2001-11-03 12:36:36 AM
Good link, I wish there were more options for building maps (more companies.) I don't understand what's hard to get about this.
 
2001-11-03 12:36:48 AM
all i know is i can bring up little desks with company names under them and they all have little + signs with links on them but the links all dont go anywhere
wha?!
 
2001-11-03 12:39:34 AM
How many people does adbusters have working for them?

Not a lot.

How many people do those evil companies have working for them?

Millions.

I would rather let them rule then rich spoiled brats at ADbusters.
 
2001-11-03 12:44:02 AM
This site is pretty cool. For those that don't get it, here is a brief explanation.

A lot of people think that a CEO runs a company. While this is true in some regards, most CEOs report to a board of directors. Most board positions are part time jobs where the person gets no salary, but a large chunk of stock options.

Most board members sit on boards for several companies. This creates a network of board members, and I know first hand this is how a lot of deals get done. Sometimes a company will even offer up a board position just to bridge them into a certain piece of the network.
 
2001-11-03 12:52:01 AM
yeah its an incestous little game that they play that has placed 80% of the nations wealth in the hands of 0.1% of the nations population.
 
2001-11-03 01:01:51 AM
They are just sad they don't get invited to play and thier girlfirend has to keep paying thier bills. While I agree with some of it, adbusters manages to be so annoying that I don't want to listen to them. I can't really put my finger on it, but I know when ever I see thier stuff I get annoyed. Maybe it is self righteous whineyness. Not sure.
 
zkm
2001-11-03 01:11:41 AM
Wait, let me get this right. People who act as professional chairmen of the boards with different companies therefore connect the companies. This is a suprise? You can connect Kevin Bacon to any movie in 6 derees, therefore all actors are in cahoots? I worked with Greg who worked with Bill, who worked with Suzy in another state, therefore I have a direct connection with Suzy and can start a vast conspiracy. And btw Code-Archiologist I'd love to see where you get your numbers, I'm sure there is some shocking value but you must realize 74.8% of statistics are made up on the spot.
 
2001-11-03 01:23:23 AM
Interesting enough for those who play the stock game, but not to someone who doesn't have any money to begin with. Do you need a frickin letterbox monitor to see the "Old Girls' Network" or something? I only got about half of it.
 
2001-11-03 01:42:11 AM
I used to have some respect for Adbusters, and tend to agree with some of their more basic principles, but their self-rightousness got the best of them some years ago and now they just bug me. They may claim to be radical progressives, but I fear that if they somehow siezed political power (fat chance) they would be as heavy handed in forcing their own agenda on everyone as those they criticize.
 
2001-11-03 02:03:25 AM
I am mispelling 'their' again. My brain refuses to put the e and i in the right order, god, I hate that. The thing that is so annoying about adbusters is the fact that they seem less interested in doing research into what the statistics they keep spewing means, if anything at all, and more interested in being part of a snotty cool club that thinks it knows better then the rest of the world, because it is so cynical and radical. That's not a knock against intellectuals, I'm the biggest science geek you can find. But their approach to everything always seems to be 'disaffected teenage boy' rather then anything approaching scholarly, thoughtfull, or useful.
 
2001-11-03 02:29:17 AM
Zkm and at just spot where you at when that statistic arrived?
 
2001-11-03 02:31:51 AM
What a load of crap that was.

Using similar charts, I could prove that I've boned Christina Ricci.. not that I would actually ever consent to something like that when sober.
 
zkm
2001-11-03 02:53:26 AM
What are you asking Curious? Seriously I don't understand what you are asking (we all type incoherently sometimes).
 
zkm
2001-11-03 02:54:44 AM
Ok I see what you're saying now, that was exactly my point.
 
zkm
2001-11-03 03:07:46 AM
This just keeps getting better and better and even more farking hilarious. I'm learning so much; Alcoa, Exxon-Mobil, General Electric, General Motors, and J.P. Morgan are all facist nazi collaberators (I knew about the whole Henry Ford getting fan mail from Hitler, but come on people). Also the REAL US government is actually Donald V. Fites, Donald F. McHenry, Sam Nunn, Micheal A. Miles, Franklin A. Thomas, and Helene L. Kaplan. And all this time I thought there were politicians involved. I understand a little corporate parinoia but come on really, get a farking clue. Psss, I heard Micheal Eisner and Bill Gates eat babies, really I have statistics and everything.
 
2001-11-03 03:23:49 AM
That was craptacular.
 
2001-11-03 03:53:16 AM
HELP!

I'm a middle class socialist brat being opressed by THE MAN!
 
2001-11-03 05:58:15 AM
Incredible! This isn't about "paranoia". This is about understanding where the money flows.

This also reveals much of the politics going on, since business politics is driven by money.

I just made a map called Techno Scorpian. Check it out. It shows the link between electronic content, hardware, and transport. Some interesting companies are in the middle of it all. For example, General Motors. It turns out that they own DirecTV, which is a partner with Microsoft (UltimateTV). Except that in the news lately, GM is selling DirecTV to Ecostar.... I wonder how this map will change because of that....
 
2001-11-03 06:59:11 AM
That's a cool site. Not entirely suprising the way everything is interconnected, yet it's still kinda creepy. It's probably pretty easy for me to say this, being a struggling middle-class factory worker and all, but corporations suck
 
2001-11-03 08:07:26 AM
Vote with your dollar. If you don't like the way a corporation runs, don't buy anything from them.
 
2001-11-03 08:41:27 AM
NICE! My first submission! Weeeeeeeee. yeah, this really isn't had to understand.
 
2001-11-03 08:46:47 AM
conspiracy thoery, nothing more
 
Bob
2001-11-03 09:41:32 AM
Thats a pretty stout little page. Interesting to see how it is really mapped out. I have a low account number.
 
2001-11-03 11:20:14 AM
This is not conspiracy theory. If you bought a huge amount of stock in a company you'd probably get a seat, too.

It's fascinating to know how companies are related. Companies are not lone entities, they're always creating deals & relationships with each other, so it's pretty obvious that board members would overlap. Might be useful when investing, actually. Knowledge is power...
 
2001-11-03 11:45:28 AM
Certainly many people knew some of how boards work, but the extent of crosses, partnership, and sharing is a little eye opening for some of us, hopefully. I guess it is just a bit scary that one man, Sam Nunn, sits on the boards of Coca cola, General Electric, Dell computers, and Texaco. Or that two members of the board of Bristol-Myers Squibb are on the opposing boards of Pepsi and Coca-cola. I guess it depends how much you think collusion is harmless or harmful.
 
zkm
2001-11-03 01:07:11 PM
As I pointed out above, just because someone is on the board of directors with some one on the board of directors of another company, who is on the board of directors of another company it doesn't mean there is much of a connection of betwwen board member A and the last company. This site is really a stretch in thinking.
 
2001-11-03 01:07:41 PM

Exactly what are you paranoid freaks afraid these folks are talking about?


Wealthy Chairman #1: Hey Jim, I think we should execute plan 9-r4x and release the toxins we've implanted in VandelBob's brain so he doesn't make any more of these incredibly perceptive posts.

Wealthy Chairman #2:Good idea, Sam. What would befall our vast fortunes if he were to discover and announce that all dogs and cats have actually been replaced by genetically engineered creatures who, via subliminal messages encoded in their respective barking and mewing, actually hypnotize people into buying more of our products?

Wealthy Chairman #1: That would bite most righteously, Jim. I would probably have to stop building my Doomesday device.

I think after 9-11, the black helicopter crowd can give it a rest for a while: we have any enemy now, you don't need to invent one domestically for your entertainment.

 
2001-11-03 01:09:37 PM
Scratch that-I meant "we have AN enemy now"
 
43%
2001-11-03 02:33:46 PM
...the black helicopter crowd can give it a rest for a while: we have any enemy now...

darn straight.
 
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