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2011-10-08 09:26:09 PM
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"Dude, you're harshening my buzz..."
 
2011-10-08 09:26:17 PM
That's why I only use the drive thru at Sonic. The carhops are sorta quasi-waitresses so I'm not sure if they should be tipped.
 
2011-10-08 11:53:52 PM

Nefarious: That's why I only use the drive thru at Sonic. The carhops are sorta quasi-waitresses so I'm not sure if they should be tipped.


Well, they bring the food to the car and bus the plasticware when you are done, but you still order the food "out of a clown's mouth." Since, they are only doing half the job of a waitress, they only get half a tip.

Unless, they are on skates. That's a full tip right there.
 
2011-10-09 03:28:00 AM
TIP THREAD!
 
2011-10-09 03:28:16 AM
As it should be. If you can't afford a small tip, stay home and eat a Hungry Man or something. Geez, cheap bastards.
 
2011-10-09 03:32:03 AM
That's no good,....
 
2011-10-09 03:33:37 AM

Gunny Walker: Unless, they are on skates. That's a full tip right there.


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Or if it's summer and they are wearing short shorts.
 
2011-10-09 03:34:16 AM
Would someone please page me when she gets out of jail?

/bunk
 
2011-10-09 03:34:33 AM
Walk 10 feet to bring my food so you deserve a tip? Should I tip the people at taco bell? Sonic boom!
 
2011-10-09 03:35:57 AM
The fries at Sonic suck.
 
2011-10-09 03:37:20 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: [img7.imageshack.us image 624x468]

"Dude, you're harshening my buzz..."


"That is the antithesis of the hundred yard stare"

/I tell you what
 
2011-10-09 03:38:44 AM

texdent: The fries at Sonic suck.


Yes, but their tots can be awesome. It's too bad I don't eat there any more. They discontinued the chicken sandwich. It was always hit or miss, but when it hit - it was out of the park.
 
2011-10-09 03:41:51 AM
She looks native. I'd hit it.
 
2011-10-09 03:49:18 AM
How does that work in the pokey?

"Yeah, I'm the 'car hop' chick and yeah, I don't know the derivation either, 'Blackspeare.'"
 
2011-10-09 03:50:38 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: She looks native. I'd hit it.


And she'd hit back.

/Giggety
 
2011-10-09 03:51:14 AM
And here I thought having to eat food from a Sonic was punishment enough for eating at a Sonic.

/how is that place still in business?
//I'll eat my own shiat before I eat there again.
 
2011-10-09 03:55:23 AM
Anyone from Northern California remember Sonic being in their area. I remember they made a move north of San Francisco and they definitively had one in Rohnert Park and possibly one in Petaluma. But I'm curious if they had any other locations outside of the 3 current north California ones.
 
2011-10-09 03:59:36 AM
Wait, you're supposed to tip the carhops? Do they make at least minimum wage or not?
 
2011-10-09 04:07:28 AM
I know this is an n=1 sort of thing, but in the ER where I work most (75% ish) of the restaurant-sourced "food poisoning" cases come from Sonic eaters. The other 25% is from taquerias.
 
HBK
2011-10-09 04:21:33 AM
I also was blissfully unaware of the need to tip employees of a fast food establishment. Hey, it's your business model, you pay the carhops.
 
2011-10-09 04:21:34 AM
tactical ignoring.
 
2011-10-09 04:23:56 AM

texdent: The fries at Sonic suck.


So do the burgers. The chilli dogs are good though.
 
2011-10-09 04:25:17 AM
Sonic's burgers suck.
Sonic's fries suck.
Sonic's shakes suck.
Sonic's chicken sandwich sucks.

Only thing that does not suck is the Chili Cheese Hot Dog.

/Hate tipping for fast food service.
//Double hate that the servers never carry ketchup/salt/napkins so they have to go get it and then come back to guilt trip you into tipping them.
 
2011-10-09 04:26:04 AM
..over $20?? ..SERIOUSLY?? ..she should take a sidejob as a stripper, then she'd make that $20 tip..the hard way, even..
 
2011-10-09 04:28:33 AM
i go to Sonic because on Tuesday they have a 5 for 5.95 deal on their hamburgers. It last me two days and sometimes three. I tip sometimes but I figured they shouldn't be tipped because when you pay with a card there is no tip line. If it was such a big deal to tip them they would put it on the receipt right? Unless I find out they don't make minimum wage I don't feel bad at all.
 
2011-10-09 04:34:24 AM
Maybe I'm just tired, but I believe TFA said nothing about a tip, just a "dispute over $20". But by all means, continue with Tip Thread #59857.
 
2011-10-09 04:35:48 AM
I participate in women's roller derby here in Central Florida, and no fewer than three of my derby girls are Sonic carhops. Seems obvious, really.

/csb
 
2011-10-09 04:36:31 AM
Here's the problem with tipping Sonic carhops. They are paid minimum wage, period. Any tips they get are deducted from their paycheck.

When you eat at a restaurant in most states, the waiter is paid the Federal tipped minimum wage of $2.13/hr. Theoretically, they get to keep their tips, but in practice, their is a "tip sharing" arrangement the waiter/waitresses must adhere to whether they like it or not. The bartenders get a cut of the tips, based on the amount of booze that is sold. Then the busboys get a cut of the tips, based on the amount of food that is sold. Then the house gets a cut of the tips, based on total sales (supposedly to pay things like the DJ or bouncers, who help you make your tips.). Usually this works out so the server "tips out" about about 4% of gross sales, or, if he/she averages 18%, about 22% of what he/she earns goes to help pay the salaries of fellow employees so that they make at least minimum wage. That's right, if you tip $10 on a $50 meal, the server is forced to give away $2 of that to other employees. Things get worse when you leave a really good tip on a credit card, so that there is actual evidence.

At Sonic, everyone is supposed to make minimum wage. If you tip in cash, the carhop will get to keep that and take it home with her IN CASH, but it will be deducted from her salary (paycheck) because it is money the company is not forced to pay her for her work. Don't get me wrong, the carhops enjoy getting the cash, but all it does is make their paychecks lighter, especially if you tip on your bank card.

Things get especially worse when you don't tip, and the server is forced to make up for this out of his or her own pocket.

As few carhops make enough in tips to go below the Federal mandatory $2.13/hr, I am tempted to advise all Farkers to stop tipping carhops. Then again, as a former waiter, it is hard for me to say "do not tip."

It's so weird, most servers start at $2.13/hr, and the house has to make it up to them if they don't make minimum wage. But at Sonic, they start at minimum wage, and every dollar you give them means one less dollar the house has to pay them. The carhops are happy, since they get the money in cash then and there (assuming you tip in cash) the corporation is ecstatic, and the rube (the customer) is none the wiser.
 
2011-10-09 04:38:25 AM
Tulsa. Enough said.
 
2011-10-09 04:38:28 AM

ox45tallboy: Things get especially worse when you don't tip, and the server is forced to make up for this out of his or her own pocket.

I put that sentence out of order. It is supposed to go one paragraph up.

/All hail our new corporate Tater Tot Overlords

 
2011-10-09 04:40:15 AM

majestykelf: I participate in women's roller derby here in Central Florida, and no fewer than three of my derby girls are Sonic carhops. Seems obvious, really.

/csb


I'd think the customers would complain about the dents in their cars...
 
2011-10-09 04:44:44 AM

moike: majestykelf: I participate in women's roller derby here in Central Florida, and no fewer than three of my derby girls are Sonic carhops. Seems obvious, really.

/csb

I'd think the customers would complain about the dents in their cars...


If you've ever been to a roller derby, you'd understand why they would not complain...
 
2011-10-09 04:55:03 AM

ox45tallboy: Here's the problem with tipping Sonic carhops. They are paid minimum wage, period. Any tips they get are deducted from their paycheck.

When you eat at a restaurant in most states, the waiter is paid the Federal tipped minimum wage of $2.13/hr. Theoretically, they get to keep their tips, but in practice, their is a "tip sharing" arrangement the waiter/waitresses must adhere to whether they like it or not. The bartenders get a cut of the tips, based on the amount of booze that is sold. Then the busboys get a cut of the tips, based on the amount of food that is sold. Then the house gets a cut of the tips, based on total sales (supposedly to pay things like the DJ or bouncers, who help you make your tips.). Usually this works out so the server "tips out" about about 4% of gross sales, or, if he/she averages 18%, about 22% of what he/she earns goes to help pay the salaries of fellow employees so that they make at least minimum wage. That's right, if you tip $10 on a $50 meal, the server is forced to give away $2 of that to other employees. Things get worse when you leave a really good tip on a credit card, so that there is actual evidence.

At Sonic, everyone is supposed to make minimum wage. If you tip in cash, the carhop will get to keep that and take it home with her IN CASH, but it will be deducted from her salary (paycheck) because it is money the company is not forced to pay her for her work. Don't get me wrong, the carhops enjoy getting the cash, but all it does is make their paychecks lighter, especially if you tip on your bank card.

Things get especially worse when you don't tip, and the server is forced to make up for this out of his or her own pocket.

As few carhops make enough in tips to go below the Federal mandatory $2.13/hr, I am tempted to advise all Farkers to stop tipping carhops. Then again, as a former waiter, it is hard for me to say "do not tip."

It's so weird, most servers start at $2.13/hr, and the house has to make it up to them if they don't make minimum wage. But at Sonic, they start at minimum wage, and every dollar you give them means one less dollar the house has to pay them. The carhops are happy, since they get the money in cash then and there (assuming you tip in cash) the corporation is ecstatic, and the rube (the customer) is none the wiser.


I wonder how that works in Oregon. All servers, whether they work in a sit down restaurant or at a fast food restaurant have to be paid the current Oregon minimum wage, which is $8.50 hour. Any & all tips are on top of that.

Having said that, I don't tip at fast food restaurants, but I do tip a minimum of 20% at a sit down restaurant.
 
2011-10-09 04:58:40 AM
I dont live in America, so can somebody please explain the basic concept here?

You go to a fast food restaurant serving greasy, odorous fast food, and then, rather than enjoy the fact that you bothered to go out, you eat this stuff in your car, thus contributing to the general stink and litter of your vehicle? Furthermore, for the benefit of not requiring the establishment to provide so many chairs/tables/etc as it otherwise might, you pay the waitress a tip? And this is because some of them might be on roller skates?

in these money pressed times, i propose this cheaper alternative:
- go to the macdonalds or burger king drive through
- park near where you can watch joggers and skaters pass by
- use the greasy wrappers from the fast "food" you've consumed to masturbate furiously, assuming you are still capable of reaching down that far.

same thing, happy ending, no tip. you're welcome.
 
2011-10-09 05:03:01 AM
I wish I had penciled-in eyebrows
then I would feel all right
 
2011-10-09 05:08:47 AM
I only knew about the tipping arrangement at Sonic because my mother worked there when she was a teenager. Whether you like it or not it comes down to the company paying less for their workers(i.e. they make good tips) ensures the workers keep their jobs, as well as the fact that they get the cash on the spot keeping them from riding the paycheck to paycheck wave. I can't help but think that there is pressure to make tips or else be seen as a 'poor performer' and risk your job.

Unrelatedly,

majestykelf: I participate in women's roller derby here in Central Florida, and no fewer than three of my derby girls are Sonic carhops. Seems obvious, really.

/csb

Defense(blockers) or jammers?
 
2011-10-09 05:57:49 AM
Don't know where all the talk about a tip came from. The article says nothing about a tip, just a dispute over $20. It also mentions she was out on bail awaiting sentencing on a charge of manufacturing drugs. This is probably a drug deal or prostitution deal gone bad.
 
2011-10-09 06:12:50 AM
I'd like to stab her.


Sonic employees told officers that they saw the man and Frerichs leave about the same time before the customer returned after getting rid of the drugs he'd gotten from her, you know the ones he shortchanged her for leading up to her stabbing him, and said he had been stabbed by the server.
 
2011-10-09 06:13:05 AM
I did that once. I didn't even know I was supposed to tip. No farking clue. I felt like a total dick too.
 
2011-10-09 06:36:41 AM
"Powered by the largest news staff in North East Oklahoma"..... and this is all he could come up with?
 
2011-10-09 06:49:22 AM
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2011-10-09 07:36:56 AM

phrawgh: As it should be. If you can't afford a small tip, stay home and eat a Hungry Man or something. Geez, cheap bastards.


If you can't afford to pay your employees their full salary, go out of business and let some other restaurant open up in your place.
 
2011-10-09 07:50:26 AM
Bad link.
 
2011-10-09 07:52:49 AM
Hmm...I guess I am supposed to tip the meals-on-skate-wheels person.
 
2011-10-09 08:13:21 AM
Tipping at Sonic? Are you farking kidding me? I've never tipped there since it is fast food, and I have never heard (until now) that people actually did. This tipping culture we have in this country is getting ridiculous.

/and no, I'm not going to start now
 
2011-10-09 08:22:07 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: I dont live in America, so can somebody please explain the basic concept here?

You go to a fast food restaurant serving greasy, odorous fast food, and then, rather than enjoy the fact that you bothered to go out, you eat this stuff in your car, thus contributing to the general stink and litter of your vehicle? Furthermore, for the benefit of not requiring the establishment to provide so many chairs/tables/etc as it otherwise might, you pay the waitress a tip? And this is because some of them might be on roller skates?


You don't have fast food in London?

Okay, I got this. As you pointed out, the food is greasy, odorous and fast - all good things. You could go in and sit down but who the fark wants to do that? It's a very basic environment inside and the chairs aren't exactly comfortable. You can eat in your car while you drive somewhere else or if you're particularly stoned you can just munch down on it immediately. Oh, and the food comes in bags so you simply put all the trash in the bag and dispose of it properly when you get to your destination because no one litters in the US.

I don't tip, not even at Sonic.
 
2011-10-09 08:26:22 AM
So much for the foot long coney I wanted today.
 
2011-10-09 08:51:29 AM
Sonic has awful food. It's inferior to McDonald's bad.
 
2011-10-09 09:10:36 AM

Bomb Head Mohammed: I dont live in America, so can somebody please explain the basic concept here?

You go to a fast food restaurant serving greasy, odorous fast food, and then, rather than enjoy the fact that you bothered to go out, you eat this stuff in your car, thus contributing to the general stink and litter of your vehicle? Furthermore, for the benefit of not requiring the establishment to provide so many chairs/tables/etc as it otherwise might, you pay the waitress a tip? And this is because some of them might be on roller skates?

in these money pressed times, i propose this cheaper alternative:
- go to the macdonalds or burger king drive through
- park near where you can watch joggers and skaters pass by
- use the greasy wrappers from the fast "food" you've consumed to masturbate furiously, assuming you are still capable of reaching down that far.

same thing, happy ending, no tip. you're welcome.


Your concept, while good, misses one of the best aspects of it. Domination.
 
2011-10-09 09:29:25 AM
Being there's no table at the carport, I usually just throw a few quarters on the ground as I pull off to leave. This way I feel self-fulfilled and I get to make a wish at the same time.
 
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