Color me shocked.

Let's see.

They focus on how Obama wanted to pay for the bill, not the bill it self.

Then they answered a hypothetical question.

Then they answer the question using only federal income tax, ignoring payroll tax because it'll give the answer Obama said.

And then they agree with Obama, but call him and past administrations out for not doing more about China in the past.


Once again AP doesn't seem to understand 'fact' checking. This was vague facts taken from the speech and then they gave their opinions on it.

That's a pretty piss poor "fact check". Just look at what "facts" they are checking:

1) "If it turns out that there are Republicans who are opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies and the American people, why they're opposed, and what would they do."

This isn't even a fact. It's a question.

2) "Every idea that we've put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike."

APs response: "Republicans support nothing Obama does, this makes him a liar".

3) "The answer we're getting right now is: Well, we're going to roll back all these Obama regulations... Does anybody really think that that is going to create jobs right now and meet the challenges of a global economy?"

Again, not a fact. APS response: "Yes, some people do. Liar!"

5) "China has been very aggressive in gaming the trading system to its advantage and to the disadvantage of other countries, particularly the United States. .... And currency manipulation is one example of it, or at least intervening in the currency markets in ways that have led their currency to be valued lower than the market would normally dictate. And that makes their exports cheaper and that makes our exports to them more expensive."

APs response: "True, but you arent doing anything about it, so LIAR!"

I guess he's learning that telling the truth doesn't work with the majority of the American people.

No YOU'RE a Towel: 1) "If it turns out that there are Republicans who are opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies and the American people, why they're opposed, and what would they do."

This isn't even a fact. It's a question.

Looks more like a declarative sentence to me.

Shostie: No YOU'RE a Towel: 1) "If it turns out that there are Republicans who are opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies and the American people, why they're opposed, and what would they do."

This isn't even a fact. It's a question.

Looks more like a declarative sentence to me.

Well sure. Declaring "Tell us why you are against this, and what your ideas are".

DAMN that liberal MSM media!

Spends $500,000,000,000 this year. Collects taxes over the next 10 years to pay for it.

Pay go my butt

9.1%

Isn't it so cute when his followers refuse to accept facts when THEIR GUY looks bad?

The AP sure is liberal today.

jehovahs witness protection: Isn't it so cute when his followers refuse to accept facts when THEIR GUY looks bad?

You are even cuter when you complain about what you do daily.

Fact checks are a lot less fact-y these days.

"If it turns out that there are Republicans who are opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies and the American people, why they're opposed, and what would they do."

That's something that you'd choose to "fact check'? farking horrible.

Just call it what it is, a run of the mill editorial.

LasersHurt: It's an opinion piece, called a "fact check" by the author, carried by the AP. That is a FAR CRY from an ACTUAL fact check.

This turd actually showed up on the AP news app this morning. Glad to see it popping up on Fark

farking liberal media

HighOnCraic: FTA: In 2009, 1,470 households filed tax returns with incomes above $1 million yet paid no federal income tax, according to the IRS. Yet that was less than 1 percent of returns with incomes above $1 million. On average, taxpayers who made $1 million or more paid 24.4 percent of their income in federal income taxes; those making $100,000 to $125,000 paid 9.9 percent; those making $50,000 to $60,000 paid 6.3 percent. The White House argues that when payroll taxes - paid only on the first $106,800 of wages - are factored in, more middle class workers wind up with a higher tax rate than millionaires.

Well, is that true or false? Seems like if it were demonstrably false, they'd come up with some evidence.

/I'm just asking questions . . .

Yeah, I would like to see that ,because my tax records don't support it.