BSABSVD?

Yeah, the Tea Party started that way too. It won't last.

I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

EWreckedSean: Yeah, the Tea Party started that way too.


No it didn't.

Good. We need that. Even if the ConTrolls still want to be butthurt and claim they're secret Democratic operatives.

sinanju: EWreckedSean: Yeah, the Tea Party started that way too.


No it didn't.

Yea actually it did. In the beginning it was almost all libertarians. Ron Paul people.

EWreckedSean: sinanju: EWreckedSean: Yeah, the Tea Party started that way too.


No it didn't.

Yea actually it did. In the beginning it was almost all libertarians. Ron Paul people.

This is true. It was essentially an economic protest before it was infiltrated and turned into a values protest... ie with Glenn Beck holding religious sermons etc.

.EWreckedSean: sinanju: EWreckedSean: Yeah, the Tea Party started that way too.


No it didn't.

Yea actually it did. In the beginning it was almost all libertarians. Ron Paul people.

Ron Paul people ARE Republicans.

Yeah, everyone says that. But these are people who will vote Democrat, Green, or not at all. They may not be in favor of the "liberal" party, but they are liberals.

/NTTAWWT

There are only two viable political parties in a country of over 300 million people. One could argue that the US is effectively a plutocracy masquerading as a democracy. In a time of wealth redistributing from the poor to the rich in times of economic downturn, it is not surprising that people have a problem with both political parties.

/ not making an argument for socialism, capitalism or any other economic system
// just making an observation

That is all (new window)

HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You're right.

They're farther left.

IlGreven: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You're right.

They're farther left.

Well, the Democrats are a right leaning party now.

IlGreven: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You're right.

They're farther left.

That's a good thing.

HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You are literally saying this as democratic and union support moves in to take over. They have already joined moveOn, ironically funded by soros who has been convicted of insider trading 8 years ago.

Yet you wrote that seriously.

MyRandomName: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You are literally saying this as democratic and union support moves in to take over. They have already joined moveOn, ironically funded by soros who has been convicted of insider trading 8 years ago.

Yet you wrote that seriously.

SOROS!

//drink!

Shyran: MyRandomName: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You are literally saying this as democratic and union support moves in to take over. They have already joined moveOn, ironically funded by soros who has been convicted of insider trading 8 years ago.

Yet you wrote that seriously.

SOROS!

//drink!

Oh, it is one of these intelligent posters. I'm not sure if there is enough sand to bury all your heads in.

What did I say that wasn't true. The protest has connected with moveOn, whose founder is one of the ones they are protesting against. Of you can't see the laughable irony you are a fool.

But your response proves that too.

HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.


Yup. I'm a Republican (for the time being) and I'm going to the DC one this week, just as soon as I find the right day.

As far as I'm concerned we need to vote out everyone. And at this point I'm not really sure we can solve things with our current political parties. I think it might be time for some more competition in congress.

EWreckedSean: Yeah, the Tea Party started that way too. It won't last.

What happened to the Tea Party was a shame. That it took people so long to REALIZE what was happening to their movement is a BIGGER shame.

What isn't happening to this thing is the media hype. They are beaten by police, maced, corralled, harrassed, belittled in the press, treated like a joke. This is in stark contrast to the press and corporate sponsorship and police bribery that was used to bolster the appearance of legitimacy in the TP movement in spite of the progressive hijacking thereof.

The climate's not right for the same things to happen to OWS. Not to say it won't change, but also, hopefully, the people who are for real with it are able to see that sort of creeping change and possibly get out in front of it.

Alternatively:
Your concern is duly noted.

Wall Street protesters think both parties are bad.

They both *are* bad. If you only believe the "other" party is bad, then you're part of the problem.

MyRandomName: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You are literally saying this as democratic and union support moves in to take over.

"Take over"? You're making shiat up. Sorry, it's far too late to get this narrative to stick.

They have already joined moveOn, ironically funded by soros who has been convicted of insider trading 8 years ago.

The entire protest joined moveOn? You must get better drugs than the protesters.

Also, OOGA BOOGA SOROS

mongbiohazard: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.


Yup. I'm a Republican (for the time being) and I'm going to the DC one this week, just as soon as I find the right day.

As far as I'm concerned we need to vote out everyone. And at this point I'm not really sure we can solve things with our current political parties. I think it might be time for some more competition in congress.

How will that help? They'll still be beholden to the same donors.

Hmmm...

Obama behind protests
Unions behind protest
Internet troll
Soros!1!!!!


*Yawn*

The only thing worse than those complaining about the people who are protesting, is the shills who think they're making a difference by trolling threads about the protests.

Does it get any more pathetic?

HotWingConspiracy: They have already joined moveOnFox News, ironically funded by sorosRupert Murdoch

MyRandomName: Shyran: MyRandomName: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You are literally saying this as democratic and union support moves in to take over. They have already joined moveOn, ironically funded by soros who has been convicted of insider trading 8 years ago.

Yet you wrote that seriously.

SOROS!

//drink!

Oh, it is one of these intelligent posters. I'm not sure if there is enough sand to bury all your heads in.

What did I say that wasn't true. The protest has connected with moveOn, whose founder is one of the ones they are protesting against. Of you can't see the laughable irony you are a fool.

But your response proves that too.

HEY. No using money to fight money. If you don't like money you should win this fight by being poor. By the way, get a job you shiftless hippies. And what's your point. I'm still talking don't you talk over me. What's your point? If you had a point you would have articulated it by now trolololo!

It's awesome. What's more awesome is that people are actually seeing through it for once. The press actually seems to believe that they can get away with this complete shift in rhetoric just because it's not republicans. Go ahead. Attack the people for being like... dumb... and stuff. See how that goes. Every time I pop my head onto the internet, OWS got bigger, and haters got madder.

qorkfiend: mongbiohazard: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.


Yup. I'm a Republican (for the time being) and I'm going to the DC one this week, just as soon as I find the right day.

As far as I'm concerned we need to vote out everyone. And at this point I'm not really sure we can solve things with our current political parties. I think it might be time for some more competition in congress.

How will that help? They'll still be beholden to the same donors.

True dat. Without some real campaign finance reform, including a reversal of "Citizens United" it doesn't matter what assclowns get voted in. The new ones will soon be as corrupt as the old.

sirgrim: So vote Anarchy.

One does not vote for anarchy, they submit to it, in all it's forms, whether they like it or not.

Both sides are one, so voting isn't really choosing which side you support, it's choosing which route you take to the same end.

Wall Street protestors think both parties are bad bought off.

I am part Occupy Salt Lake. I don't feel like this is "Democrat" movement by any means. It's really not a "both sides are bad so vote Democrat" unlike that other "grass movement" with all the corporate sponsorship money and party members with (R')s next to their names.
But with that said... I bet the Democrats get a lot more votes than the Republicans out of this group. If for no other reason than the gay marriage thing, women's health care rights, religious overtones, or just the overall class warfare that THEY have stepped up into a full blown bloody battle. But other than that, I guess they could get some votes out of this crowd.

/both parties do love that corporate cock though don't they?
//We are the 99% (Pointing - and so are you, and you, and you, and you are too whether you want to admit it or not)

Both parties smell like feces. However only one party is actually made entirely out of feces.

Ladies and Gentlemen let me introduce you to one of the soon to be least rare creature in the world. They may have continually voted for the democratic party for eons but now say they are bad but will still vote for the democratic party.... I introduce you to.... THE FARK DEPENDANT!!!!!!

epoc_tnac: JacobDavidWatson: There are only two viable political parties in a country of over 300 million people. One could argue that the US is effectively a plutocracy masquerading as a democracy. In a time of wealth redistributing from the poor to the rich in times of economic downturn, it is not surprising that people have a problem with both political parties.

/ not making an argument for socialism, capitalism or any other economic system
// just making an observation

So vote Republican!

Seriously though, you're right. It's not healthy to reduce political discourse down to 2 teams. And the worst part is that the people that support one of those teams belittle anyone that doesn't want to take part in the game.

Or worse, belittle one even more if they think about supporting a party outside of the red or blue framework.

/ they'll never WIN why would you waste your vote??

Saiga410: Ladies and Gentlemen let me introduce you to one of the soon to be least rare creature in the world. They may have continually voted for the democratic party for eons but now say they are bad but will still vote for the democratic party.... I introduce you to.... THE FARK DEPENDANT!!!!!!

Example #32,472 of why conservatives shouldn't attempt humor.

MyRandomName: Shyran: MyRandomName: HotWingConspiracy: I keep trying to tell people this, but they need the narrative to be this is a big Obama booster rally.

This is why these people are superior to teabaggers. They aren't just re-branded Democrats.

You are literally saying this as democratic and union support moves in to take over. They have already joined moveOn, ironically funded by soros who has been convicted of insider trading 8 years ago.

Yet you wrote that seriously.

SOROS!

//drink!

Oh, it is one of these intelligent posters. I'm not sure if there is enough sand to bury all your heads in.

What did I say that wasn't true. The protest has connected with moveOn, whose founder is one of the ones they are protesting against. Of you can't see the laughable irony you are a fool.

But your response proves that too.

I didn't post to prove or disprove your statement. I posted to make a sarcastic remark.

Philip Francis Queeg: Saiga410: Ladies and Gentlemen let me introduce you to one of the soon to be least rare creature in the world. They may have continually voted for the democratic party for eons but now say they are bad but will still vote for the democratic party.... I introduce you to.... THE FARK DEPENDANT!!!!!!

Example #32,472 of why conservatives shouldn't attempt humor.

Wait, that was humour?

JacobDavidWatson: Or worse, belittle one even more if they think about supporting a party outside of the red or blue framework.

/ they'll never WIN why would you waste your vote??

I live in Berlin - the Pirate party just gained 15 seats in the city Parliament.

Of course, Germany has proportional representation, which makes voting for whoever the hell you want more than just a symbolic act.

s2s2s2: Both sides are one, so voting isn't really choosing which side you support, it's choosing which route you take to the same end.

I agree -- but, sadly, it's likely that these protestors would rather see the government just take over Wall Street and pretty much nationalize everything, rather than admit that all this mess is the government's fault, the result of decades of bound-to-fail policies, and call for what is really needed, a separation of government and industry -- in the same spirit and for the same reason as we have separation of church and state.

A government in control of industry is no better than industry in control of government -- neither socialism nor fascism are good things in the long run.

Saiga410: Ladies and Gentlemen let me introduce you to one of the soon to be least rare creature in the world. They may have continually voted for the democratic party for eons but now say they are bad but will still vote for the democratic party.... I introduce you to.... THE FARK DEPENDANT!!!!!!

Both parties are bad.

So vote Democrat.

Are you telling me that a dual party political system isn't enough to satisfy the needs of the people and that they would never collude or come to an agreement because we all know that a dictatorship is having only one party, but we live in a democracy with TWO, count 'em, TWO parties and we all be free and shiat now.

Lernaeus: s2s2s2: Both sides are one, so voting isn't really choosing which side you support, it's choosing which route you take to the same end.

I agree -- but, sadly, it's likely that these protestors would rather see the government just take over Wall Street and pretty much nationalize everything, rather than admit that all this mess is the government's fault, the result of decades of bound-to-fail policies, and call for what is really needed, a separation of government and industry -- in the same spirit and for the same reason as we have separation of church and state.

A government in control of industry is no better than industry in control of government -- neither socialism nor fascism are good things in the long run.

It continues to amaze me that people don't understand that asking government to control business is just asking the fox to guard the hen house. I mean really, who do they think government works for. I mean geez, look at Obamacare. The thing in the end was largely just a massive boon for the insurance industry.

Jackson Herring: Saiga410: Ladies and Gentlemen let me introduce you to one of the soon to be least rare creature in the world. They may have continually voted for the democratic party for eons but now say they are bad but will still vote for the democratic party.... I introduce you to.... THE FARK DEPENDANT!!!!!!

fetch will never happen

Have to watch out for that Fark man, it's like crack...

//or so I was told...

pippi longstocking: Are you telling me that a dual party political system isn't enough to satisfy the needs of the people and that they would never collude or come to an agreement because we all know that a dictatorship is having only one party, but we live in a democracy with TWO, count 'em, TWO parties and we all be free and shiat now.

Lernaeus: s2s2s2: Both sides are one, so voting isn't really choosing which side you support, it's choosing which route you take to the same end.

I agree -- but, sadly, it's likely that these protestors would rather see the government just take over Wall Street and pretty much nationalize everything, rather than admit that all this mess is the government's fault, the result of decades of bound-to-fail policies, and call for what is really needed, a separation of government and industry -- in the same spirit and for the same reason as we have separation of church and state.

A government in control of industry is no better than industry in control of government -- neither socialism nor fascism are good things in the long run.

Yreds, let's separate Government and industry. Brilliant.

No police or legal protections for businesses.

No government utilities supplied to businesses.

No use of government built infrastructure by businesses.

No military protection for business operations.

No support by businesses for political candidates allowed.