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2011-10-06 03:10:33 PM
I'm allowed to be a pricky pratt here, so I'm going to.
A) Obama said his death was notable considering people heard about it using a device he invented. Except he didn't. The man was a marketer, NOT an engineer. His contribution to the original apple was telling the Woz to make the powersupply "this color." He was an asshole to his engineers, the ones who made him his fortune. He was known to go on tirades, fire people at the drop of a hat. He was a prick. And he didn't event anything. He made his career riding on the backs of hard working engineers, none of whom will even get a second thought when they die.
B) I saw someone compare him to DiVinci last night. farking DIVINCI! Are you serious? The guy made pretty toys, he was by no means possibly one of the most intelligent human beings ever to walk the face of the earth.

He couldn't even invent with OSX, he had his engineers take NetBSD's code and re-engineer it into Darwin - the real name of OSX.

Oh, he was also notorious for parking in the handicapped spot at Cupertino.

Great guy, him.

/Still think Woz is brilliant.
/Still think jobs was a great marketer, just an audacious self centered prick.
 
2011-10-06 03:16:29 PM

austin_millbarge: Eirik: Reminds me of the last time I worked in an office that used all Mac products. Almost new machines, new software, ran so damn slow that I could literally write a sentence, get up, get a cup of tea, sit back down and watch the thing slowly catch up to me. It would take up to an hour to type up a patient report, when the exam only last 20 minutes.

Either you're lying out your ass being a Windows fantroll or the IT guys there had it loaded down with so much Norton crap that it spent half its cycles trying to update (unnecessary) virus profiles.


He speaks the truth. When I used a Mac for inventory control, I could call up a part number, walk over to the file cabinet, pull the paper file, and return to my desk before the data showed up on the screen.

Of course, this was in 1988, but it's still true.
 
2011-10-06 03:17:08 PM
Something tells me that Randall Munroe has been sitting on that comic for a while now...
 
2011-10-06 03:18:15 PM

trappedspirit: ProfessorOhki: /yeah, the iPad is a giant iPhone
//but it was still a pretty ballsy gamble

[i141.photobucket.com image 300x169]

How much longer can people keep ripping off Star Trek and take the credit for innovation?


THIS!

It was even called a "Padd" in TNG. Even the name was unoriginal!
 
2011-10-06 03:33:28 PM

LrdPhoenix: Also the equivalent of a BSOD when it doesn't stop, known as the Beach Ball of Death.


No, not even remotely close. You can simply force-close the offending application, and press on. No reboot required.

This is the Mac equivalent of a BSOD:

img805.imageshack.us

It's usually caused by a hardware issue. I haven't seen one of these in years. (I haven't seen a Windows BSOD in years either, come to think of it.)
 
2011-10-06 03:49:34 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: austin_millbarge: Eirik: Reminds me of the last time I worked in an office that used all Mac products. Almost new machines, new software, ran so damn slow that I could literally write a sentence, get up, get a cup of tea, sit back down and watch the thing slowly catch up to me. It would take up to an hour to type up a patient report, when the exam only last 20 minutes.

Either you're lying out your ass being a Windows fantroll or the IT guys there had it loaded down with so much Norton crap that it spent half its cycles trying to update (unnecessary) virus profiles.

He speaks the truth. When I used a Mac for inventory control, I could call up a part number, walk over to the file cabinet, pull the paper file, and return to my desk before the data showed up on the screen.

Of course, this was in 1988, but it's still true.


This happened in 2007-2008 for over a year before some upgrade or fix made it tolerable. It was never quick, but at least it could keep up with my typing. The software we were using was just crap.

But it always annoys me that I spent over a year dealing with this thing, and the owner of the office denied that it could possibly be Apples fault that something was wrong because Apple products just work. Now I've got computers so old that feel like I should be feeding them punch cards, and they "just work."
 
2011-10-06 04:00:01 PM

ProfessorOhki: /yeah, the iPad is a giant iPhone
//but it was still a pretty ballsy gamble


Supposedly (I've no idea how true this is), the iPad came first, and when they were demo-ing kinetic scrolling to Jobs he said "This would kick ass in a phone, let's do that first."
 
2011-10-06 04:09:23 PM
There's one less wealthy person in the US.

Obama must be happy.
 
2011-10-06 04:16:58 PM

Anagrammer: There's one less wealthy person in the US.

Obama must be happy.


Are you kidding? He doesn't have time to stop stoking the furnace with shovel fulls of government t-bills. He's really breaking a sweat. Between that and practicing his limbo to better bend over backwards for the Chinese. And the free abortions in his spare time. Plus personally conducting interviews in India for applicants to send US jobs to. He just keeps up with a running total on the number of wealthy people left he needs to devalue on his ipad.
 
2011-10-06 04:19:48 PM
I don't see the point in honoring someone just for building things, but this is a good tribute anyway, and it is a shame when anyone dies, especially a genius. RIP.
 
2011-10-06 04:20:43 PM

moonage daydream: fappomatic: OK so Steve Jobs kicked-it. That's sad because a fellow human being died the same horribly slow death as my father. But Steve Jobs wasn't (as far as I know) my father so....let's all show our respect quietly. With dignity. No mass hysteria.

I swear, if Matt Lauer does his smarmy bullshiat sad puppy face again, I'll be the guy behind them unrinating on the studio window.

I normally don't give a shiat how hysterical the public is but when my 13yr old calls me, almost in tears..... "son, who is your father? Me. Right. Did I croak? No. Did Steve send you birthday emails and post on your Facebook every day? Did he invite you to be on the evaluiation committee for the next iAnything? No? OK...see where dear ol' Dad is going with this?"

You're an ass. "How dare you show emotion for anyone other than ME?!?!?!?!!"


Of course I'm an ass. Douchebag. Troll. Anarchist. A regular opinionated schmuck. You'll understand what I've said once you've lived a little longer.
 
2011-10-06 04:23:34 PM

moonage daydream: You're an ass. "How dare you show emotion for anyone other than ME?!?!?!?!!"


I think it's more along the lines of "why cry for someone who wouldn't cry for you?"

He was a very important, influential guy and it is sad that he died, especially to cancer. But let's not go overboard; his main purpose in life was to get you to buy his products. The end.
 
2011-10-06 04:27:35 PM

trappedspirit: ProfessorOhki: /yeah, the iPad is a giant iPhone
//but it was still a pretty ballsy gamble

[i141.photobucket.com image 300x169]

How much longer can people keep ripping off Star Trek and take the credit for innovation?


I predict even warp drives will be credited to whoever makes the first one. Now we just have to wait for Zephram Cochrane to be born.
 
2011-10-06 04:29:48 PM

Boomhauer: It's usually caused by a hardware issue. I haven't seen one of these in years. (I haven't seen a Windows BSOD in years either, come to think of it.)


You can still get BSOD's in Windows 7, I get one fairly regularly. I suspect running my mobile nVidia GPU at full power for hours on end might be related.
 
2011-10-06 04:43:54 PM

Big Man On Campus: Boomhauer: It's usually caused by a hardware issue. I haven't seen one of these in years. (I haven't seen a Windows BSOD in years either, come to think of it.)

You can still get BSOD's in Windows 7, I get one fairly regularly. I suspect running my mobile nVidia GPU at full power for hours on end might be related.


I may go ahead and agree with your diagnosis on that one, doctor.

My PCI express slot went bad, I saw it a lot then. Not so much before that.
 
2011-10-06 04:50:21 PM

Larofeticus: How did you people even find this?

Who checks xkcd on a thursday???


That was my first thought too. I'm still confused.
 
2011-10-06 04:56:01 PM

trappedspirit: ProfessorOhki: /yeah, the iPad is a giant iPhone
//but it was still a pretty ballsy gamble

[i141.photobucket.com image 300x169]

How much longer can people keep ripping off Star Trek and take the credit for innovation?


A Pad-like device was in the movie 2001...it was cited as evidence in that recent lawsuit.

Anyone remember Apple's first tablet, the Newton? That POS never gets mentioned...by anyone.
 
2011-10-06 04:57:54 PM

fappomatic: Of course I'm an ass. Douchebag. Troll. Anarchist. A regular opinionated schmuck. You'll understand what I've said once you've lived a little longer.


I take it we shouldn't wait for you at the line for tickets to the impromptu midnight vigil/wine tasting/tech show?
 
2011-10-06 05:20:28 PM
So he is the messiah? Is that the joke? He's just buffering until his return?
 
2011-10-06 05:32:21 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: I remember when XKCD was edgy.


I don't remember when you were edgy.
 
2011-10-06 05:32:40 PM
Wait... Are some of you REALLY tearing up for someone who didn't know you, you didn't know, and had absolutely no impact on your life? (And don't give me crap about how your iPod saved your dog.) Seriously? And you'll expect to be taken seriously on other subjects? I'm not even an anti-Apple, Windows, Linux, Google, or anything. I just think you're pathetic if you're really being emotionally affected by someone who has nothing to do with you.
 
2011-10-06 05:32:58 PM

factoryconnection: poot_rootbeer: If their Chinese factories hadn't been contracted to assemble iPhones, they would have been just as busy assembling some other device for some other company.

They contracted with a sweatshop company and no doubt knew exactly what they were getting. iPhones weren't some tiny production line... even if Apple was so blase as to have no presence in their manufacturing sites, that's still a black mark on corporate leadership.


You're a dope. This is globalization. Those factory workers are actually relatively well-off! Or do you not like helping the poor in general? Only the American poor?

Next you're going to tell me that the suicides were an epidemic....
 
2011-10-06 05:33:36 PM

scubamage: He made his career riding on the backs of hard working engineers, none of whom will even get a second thought when they die.


This the only part of your dumb tirade that I agree with.

The Apple Legacy is the culmination of thousands of people over several decades. Steve Wozniak, Jef Raskin, Susan Kare, Jean-Louis Gassée, Bruce Tognazzini, Jonathan Ive, just to name a few of the better-known names. By no means does Jobs deserve the full credit for all their work.

But, would these talented people's hard work have had the same impact on the industry and the public, without a Steve Jobs to guide them and yell at them when their ideas sucked and run press conferences to tell the world why their good ideas were so good?
 
2011-10-06 05:35:21 PM

factoryconnection: Got it... guiltless due to peer pressure. Their corporate management even moreso.


Why can't you read???
 
2011-10-06 05:37:06 PM
That's...really not that cool.
It would be like Bill Gates dying and him putting a little hourglass there.

Then again, when Macs die, they just have the spinny rainbow pinwheel forever instead of giving you a stop error and telling you what went wrong, so I guess that makes sense.
 
2011-10-06 05:53:19 PM

sarah_t_s: Gaseous Anomaly:
I'd imagine it's difficult to buy anything at all that doesn't have at least some Third-World-sweatshop taint.

Surprisingly difficult, even when you go back to finding the raw materials to build your own version of something from scratch. You come down to chossing which vendor is the lessor of the evils.


Woah, someone's leasing out evils?
 
2011-10-06 05:54:20 PM

Kar98: The equivalent of the spinning hourglass in Windows.


What is this "Windows" you speak of?..

img217.imageshack.us
 
2011-10-06 06:01:00 PM
Except the pinwheel is when a program locks up. A STOP error in Windows is when the kernel (or something hooked into it, like say a device driver) crashes.

Windows equivalent these days is dwm fogging the app window over as if it had literally frozen. Before it tells you the program has locked up and lets you wait it out or force-quit it.
 
2011-10-06 06:25:52 PM
I really don't care for that dumb cartoon but that is nice.
 
2011-10-06 06:36:14 PM

kettir: sarah_t_s: Gaseous Anomaly:
I'd imagine it's difficult to buy anything at all that doesn't have at least some Third-World-sweatshop taint.

Surprisingly difficult, even when you go back to finding the raw materials to build your own version of something from scratch. You come down to chossing which vendor is the lessor of the evils.

Woah, someone's leasing out evils?


Yep, 10 year lease... just sign here. In blood.
 
2011-10-06 06:38:52 PM
10 Unusual Things You Didn't Know About Steve Jobs (new window)

4) He denied paternity on his first child, claiming he was sterile. The mother had to initially raise the kid using welfare checks.

6) He doesn't give any money to charity. And when he became Apple's CEO he stopped all of their philanthropic programs.

7) He lied to Steve Wozniak. When they made Breakout for Atari, Wozniak and Jobs were going to split the pay 50-50. Atari gave Jobs $5000 to do the job. He told Wozniak he got $700 so Wozniak took home $350.
 
2011-10-06 06:40:23 PM
Let's try that link again:

10 Unusual Things You Didn't Know About Steve Jobs (new window)
 
2011-10-06 06:42:03 PM

altrocks: It was even called a "Padd" in TNG. Even the name was unoriginal!


We would have tried to make one back in the '80s except for the following problems:
1. Processing chips capable of running a GUI took too much electricity/produced too much heat
2. Batteries weren't readily available with the longevity necessary for practical use
3. We lacked good means of making tough, small color LCD touchscreens for cheap; we also lacked the durable coatings to prevent scratches
4. Backlighting was substantially less developed - more power demand or using passive harder to see panels.

There had been previous attempts, it's just that the compromises of the past rendered those attempts not useful enough for extensive commercial success.
 
2011-10-06 06:52:30 PM

Firethorn: altrocks: It was even called a "Padd" in TNG. Even the name was unoriginal!

We would have tried to make one back in the '80s except for the following problems:
1. Processing chips capable of running a GUI took too much electricity/produced too much heat
2. Batteries weren't readily available with the longevity necessary for practical use
3. We lacked good means of making tough, small color LCD touchscreens for cheap; we also lacked the durable coatings to prevent scratches
4. Backlighting was substantially less developed - more power demand or using passive harder to see panels.

There had been previous attempts, it's just that the compromises of the past rendered those attempts not useful enough for extensive commercial success.


I'm waiting for an iPad that's essentially just a slab of transparent aluminum with transparent plastic transistors. Maybe a little tube stuck to one end for the battery and usb connectors.
 
2011-10-06 06:53:28 PM
"Tribute", yes.

"Wonderful, subtle", meh.

i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
 
2011-10-06 07:10:06 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: She had a habit of installing every free crapware font on the intarwebz.


There's your problem. Use FontBook to look at all your fonts to see which ones are wonky. Virtually every one of those crapware fonts will generate a red flag.

Also, there's your legal problem. Using unregistered/unpaid-for fonts in your business to generate income is a huge violation of copyright laws.
 
2011-10-06 07:17:02 PM

JackieRabbit: Typing this on a MacBook Pro with a 2.8 GHz Duo and 4 GB ram, having six applications open (one of which is MS Windows) and five terminal sessions to various servers, and am having no memory or performance issue, I'm getting a kick out of some of the posts about how slow an klugey Macs are.


That's OK, I'm sure in the next thread somebody on your side will start saying equally uninformed things about bluescreens and viruses and what have you. That's the circle of fanboy.
 
2011-10-06 07:22:27 PM

apeiron242: fark Steve Jobs.

fark Apple and their overpriced crap.

fark the iQueefs.


Wow. Take you a long time to create those two sentences, Einstein?
 
2011-10-06 07:46:47 PM
i90.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-06 07:49:22 PM

festus: Mitch Taylor's Bro: She had a habit of installing every free crapware font on the intarwebz.

There's your problem. Use FontBook to look at all your fonts to see which ones are wonky. Virtually every one of those crapware fonts will generate a red flag.

Also, there's your legal problem. Using unregistered/unpaid-for fonts in your business to generate income is a huge violation of copyright laws.


Font Book was the first thing we checked. It didn't show anything wrong, other than duplicates, which were easily resolved.

And thanks for your concern about our legal standing, but, per the license, freeware fonts are free to use. If we have to buy anything to complete a job, we do. We mark-up the cost of goods and services required to complete a job, so buying stuff, hiring photographers, etc., makes us money. (Assuming the client pays after the job is complete.)
 
2011-10-06 07:52:59 PM

Boomhauer: It's usually caused by a hardware issue. I haven't seen one of these in years.


I hadn't seen one in years, and after the last iTunes update whenever I turn on Home Sharing on my Mac Laptop and play music on my Win7 Desktop - after 22 minutes I get a Kernel Panic on the Mac. Always 22 minutes. Doesn't matter what music is playing, after 22 minutes: POOP.

It's maddening, but I haven't really researched it.
 
2011-10-06 07:54:23 PM

festus: Also, there's your legal problem. Using unregistered/unpaid-for fonts in your business to generate income is a huge violation of copyright laws.


Uh, there are free fonts out there for commercial use, that's not unheard of.
 
2011-10-06 08:20:37 PM

Optimal_Illusion: canyoneer: Techno-utopianism and scientism. This guy was just a rapacious businessman and technocrat. Hero worship - especially hero worship of mundane technocrats - is a disease.

So is spouting ten-dollar words to express two cents. What psychological mechanism prompted you to espound your opinion in a exaggerated expression of polysyllabic profundity and bombastic example of anti-brevity in hopes that the common Farker (if there is such) would feel sufficiently impressed to conclude that one is possesed of higher cognitive functioning?

In other words: Who stepped on your tail?


Headshot.
 
2011-10-06 08:52:38 PM

aswarmofa: sosumi


I see what you did there.
 
2011-10-06 09:14:36 PM

Optimal_Illusion: canyoneer: Techno-utopianism and scientism. This guy was just a rapacious businessman and technocrat. Hero worship - especially hero worship of mundane technocrats - is a disease.

So is spouting ten-dollar words to express two cents. What psychological mechanism prompted you to espound your opinion in a exaggerated expression of polysyllabic profundity and bombastic example of anti-brevity in hopes that the common Farker (if there is such) would feel sufficiently impressed to conclude that one is possesed of higher cognitive functioning?

In other words: Who stepped on your tail?


These fine fellows agree.
www.imfdb.org
 
2011-10-06 10:16:59 PM

Ben Enya: Any person who has ever been in marketing should have Job's picture in their office.

You didn't see people blowing their load like this when Dave from Wendy's died.


Wendy's was a good restaurant until he died. Whoever took over really ran it into the ground, quality wise. They have become the companies they parodied in those old "Where's the Beef" commercials.
 
2011-10-06 10:25:46 PM

Larofeticus: How did you people even find this?

Who checks xkcd on a thursday???


RSS reader would be my guess. That's how I read xkcd anyways along with Dilbert.
 
2011-10-06 10:37:47 PM

Claude Ballse: Other wise I have an old 700mHz G3 iMac. Load OS9 onto it, and it's OK for speeds. Load OS X 10.0 and suddenly it becomes faster. Keep upgrading it until 10.4 (last PowerPC compatible OS) and with each upgrade the damn thing will get faster and faster.


Really? In my experience with my old G4 was that 10.3 was the fastest on older PowerPC hardware. OS X 10.4 and 10.5 (Leopard was the last PPC release, G4 and G5 only) were slower as older machines only met the low end of the memory requirements. I believe that Spotlight was a big factor but OS X is also a very RAM hungry OS.
 
2011-10-06 11:34:52 PM

GavinTheAlmighty: moonage daydream: You're an ass. "How dare you show emotion for anyone other than ME?!?!?!?!!"

I think it's more along the lines of "why cry for someone who wouldn't cry for you?"

He was a very important, influential guy and it is sad that he died, especially to cancer. But let's not go overboard; his main purpose in life was to get you to buy his products. The end.


The kid's 13 and upset, and his dad proceeds to guilt him over being upset. That's farked up, I don't care who died. I remember being 13 and being attached to my idols; if I had found out David Bowie had died, I would have been inconsolable.

See, I have no issue with how you laid it out. Pulling a manipulative guilt trip on your kid is something else entirely.
 
2011-10-07 03:09:52 AM
I'm getting several BSODs on my brand-new Thinkpad w/ Win7. Or was, until we narrowed it down to a faulty hard disk controller.

Faults happen. Guru Meditation Error.
 
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