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2011-10-06 10:47:23 AM

BreezyWheeze: make a point of being seen occasionally, in the company of younger or more attractive women. If she ever changes her mind, then you get to turn her down.


If you have the ability to be seen with attractive and younger women why would you worry about the first woman?
 
2011-10-06 10:48:33 AM

DaShredda: I was in all Honor classes in high school. Graduated Cum Laude from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.

I've made Flash animations, I've written songs, I've worked on SAP systems getting paid madd loot.


Like you say, it really depends. I personally get a lot of satisfaction out of my work, so on a day-to-day basis I just want to come home and unwind. Video games are great for that. Especially when you come home at 6:00 or 7:00 at night and it's already dark out.

I really like working on my parent's house or on my truck on the weekends though, because I spend 40+ hours a week sitting in an office.
 
2011-10-06 10:49:04 AM
If you don't believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?"

Dear women who complain about this:

(Chivalry) (Equality)

Pick one.

/men not being interested in the unwinnable game of the American household =/= men in decline
 
2011-10-06 10:51:06 AM

TheTeethoftheTiger: That's really the key. Balance. I know I couldn't find that when playing video games, I was easily addicted to them, but I have seen plenty of other friends get consumed by them too. So maybe I'm the one with the skewed view of them, regardless I still stand by elevating hobbies/ pursuits that have real world benefits. At least reading is an outlet for creative stimulation/ potentially learning (depending on the subject matter).


One of my best gaming memories was Marathon - a first person shooter that essentially made you fight through each ~30 minute level with puzzles for four paragraphs of text as a reward.



CSB response: I mean no offense, but (of course) I firmly believe that those that let something like games (or booze, or sex, or whatever) dominate and take over their lives have some underlying issue and while going cold turkey might help in the short term, eventually something else will come along that has similar effects on their lives.


Uncle Tractor: DaShredda: I love gaming.

I like making levels for games more than I like playing the games. Models, textures, sounds, music, maps ... and then seeing it all come together.


I'm sure that's great fun, and like writing a song and arranging it for a band quite rewarding. Also a hassle and a pain at times, and for myself I enjoy just kicking back and making use of someone else's maps after I've done my creative labor for the day.

/With a few beers, of course.
//Gotta give myself a handicap
 
2011-10-06 10:52:41 AM

TheTeethoftheTiger: Sounds like you need a new career. You're right, if you go to work everyday and see no point in what you accomplish then what is the point?


Because there is an unplundered cache of rewarding, fulfilling jobs out there?

Such jobs are great (I have one) but be honest - they are rare as hen's teeth and in high demand.
 
2011-10-06 10:55:56 AM

Yoyo: manimal2878: Men of a certain age have seen the hollow promise of religion, the failed marriages of their parents, and that when it comes down to it they will be laid off from their job.

Why bother with any of that?

What failed marriage of my parents? My parents and their parents as well were married until the days my father and grandfathers died. In fact, I have a pretty good suspicion that my parents still had an active romantic relation up to the week my dad died. Additionally, none of them were ever laid off. (Of course, my parents weren't boomers, and their parents weren't the "greatest" generation.)


Congrats, you sound old.
 
2011-10-06 10:57:26 AM

Greymalkin: "A real human knows how to and could build the the house they live in and can make an intelligent educated attempt to fix any appliance inside it."

/ If your Weeners to a broken washing machine is to call for help or buy a new one, you have failed the species.


How about I write software and receive compensation. Then, when an appliance fails I use part of that compensation to pay someone to take care of it. It's called an economy.
/Works for me.
 
2011-10-06 10:58:34 AM
All well and good but we're already seeing the opening salvo's in the

"How come your kid gets to go to college and get a real job and my kid can't afford to go despite the fact that I have children with 3 different women and play x-box 18 hours a day...."

war.

We have this expectation of absolute freedom of choice but are shocked when (on average) people who get married, stay married and attempt to do the right things by their kids have kids that end up succeeding while others fail at a much higher rate.

I fully expect some sort of legal handicap to be applied to the children of married successful couples because its "unfair" that not all kids enjoy such privilege.
 
2011-10-06 10:59:14 AM

TheTeethoftheTiger:
Sounds like you need a new career. You're right, if you go to work everyday and see no point in what you accomplish then what is the point?


Wish the whole world worked like that - if we all left careers that were unfulfilling or worthless, there wouldn't be many careers with people in them at all. But hey, back to the topic at hand, all you need is for a career to be "challenging" and you pass the man test. Fulfillment is for pussies!
 
2011-10-06 11:01:06 AM

ph0rk: CSB response: I mean no offense, but (of course) I firmly believe that those that let something like games (or booze, or sex, or whatever) dominate and take over their lives have some underlying issue and while going cold turkey might help in the short term, eventually something else will come along that has similar effects on their lives.


A similar effect to fantasy accomplishment and adventure? I replaced that with actual accomplishment and adventure. Sometimes it really is just a poison for someone.
 
2011-10-06 11:03:09 AM
To the article I say: fark you, Bennett, and shut your whore mouth and make all of us a farking sammich.

Were men ever that religious anyway? It was my understanding that generally women were the actual religious ones and guys mostly went along with it for peace from nagging and that if men did get into it then they turned into assholes for the most part.

Anyway, ladies, what do you need a man for? Do it yourself or STFU.
 
2011-10-06 11:04:19 AM
Where's all the women who can still remember who all they slept with?

And "play too many video games, don't get married, and aren't religious enough"

Thats me - not changing either biatches.
 
2011-10-06 11:05:03 AM
If the women wore a label that said "triple input," I'd be more interested.
 
2011-10-06 11:05:58 AM

manimal2878: Yoyo: manimal2878: Men of a certain age have seen the hollow promise of religion, the failed marriages of their parents, and that when it comes down to it they will be laid off from their job.

Why bother with any of that?

What failed marriage of my parents? My parents and their parents as well were married until the days my father and grandfathers died. In fact, I have a pretty good suspicion that my parents still had an active romantic relation up to the week my dad died. Additionally, none of them were ever laid off. (Of course, my parents weren't boomers, and their parents weren't the "greatest" generation.)

Congrats, you sound old.


Hmm, is 29 old?

Cause my parents have been married to each other for about 33 years now...and are happy with each other.
 
2011-10-06 11:08:56 AM

Nick Spiceyweiner: And "play too many video games, don't get married, and aren't religious enough"

Thats me - not changing either biatches.


Word up son.

My dad told me the point of life is to be happy.

I'm pretty happy playing video games.
 
2011-10-06 11:09:29 AM

ph0rk: Way back in my early 20's, I used to turn down 'relations' from women that claimed they wouldn't abort if birth control failed (I asked). I used protection as a rule of course, but the risk was (imho) great enough that it wasn't worth it, so I passed.


The devil you say! You mean you actually talked about birth control and made contingency plans before farking?
What sort of phreak are you? I thought that 'real men' had no ability to control themselves. Oh - they want to run the world, but planning for sex is just a bridge too far.
 
2011-10-06 11:12:51 AM
True story about a baby daddy.

My cousin got knocked up by some random stoner. At the time she was brainwashed into being religious, and decided not to get an abortion. Her water breaks, she goes into labor. She says to the baby daddy. "I'm going to the hospital now. Can you pack the stuff and meet me there?"

She pushes this loser's baby out. Then she asks him, "Hey, can you give me a pair of socks?" He says, "What do you mean?" Turns out this guy packed a bag of stuff FOR HIMSELF. He had pajamas and books and toiletries like he was on some kind of sleep over and it didn't occur to him to pack anything for either the woman carrying his child or his newborn son.

Better off being a single mom than being with a man like that.
 
2011-10-06 11:13:50 AM
Right now, I am getting ready for three days of dirt bike riding in the desert with my "divorced, no desire to remarry" friends. Riding, drinking, BBQ'ing steaks, just generally having lots of fun. Don't have to get "permission" from anyone to go, next weekend is a buds birthday - already have a party planned at the local strip joint.
Yeah, it's tough, would give the freedom up to be stuck in a thankless marriage, working to support the ideals of a status hungry wife........NOT.
After 10 years of the married lifestyle, I can attest that being single is freakin' awesome, no desire to ever get married again.
 
2011-10-06 11:14:09 AM
Bill Bennett doesn't get to lecture me on ANYTHING! Bastard should be in jail.

That said...

I'm married, have a wonderful little spawn, and have a job. Last night I thoroughly enjoyed playing the open source version of Decent. Video games don't make you a bad person, ignoring your loved ones does. Bennett once again displays faulty logic.

And what single woman complains to HIM about the problems with her love life? I mean... REALLY? I can just see Bill and some hot twenty something sipping mimosas over brunch and biatching about how they can't get a man or a decent pair of shoes.

But here's the deal... we all suck. Men extend childhood much too long and women are intolerable shrews. It has been this way forever, we're just more open about it now and this is NOT why people are putting off getting married.

People put off getting married because it's advantageous culturally and economically. Had I gotten married five years earlier, I'd either have a ruined marriage or a ruined career. While this is just me, I am pretty typical of the modern white collar worker.

If Bill Bennett wants to know why we don't settle for the asshole across the table on date night earlier or more often, he should look at what he and his conservatard ilk have done to our society and prosperity.

As I said before... bastards.
 
2011-10-06 11:16:03 AM

AngryJailhouseFistfark:

As a reformed Christian, I know my resistance to revealed religions comes largely from there being no there there. Not everyone has the need for deeper meaning, though. Some are perfectly satisfied with shallow materialism.



Are you satisfied with shallow materialism? Once a person reaches middle age you should be over that.

I highlighted the interesting part of your comment. Although you may think it is a profound atheist statement, it is very mystical. Heaven is a mental construct because our minds are too simple to understand an existence without form. If you understand the structure of the physical universe, you will understand the structure of the true Cosmology.
 
2011-10-06 11:17:46 AM
Let the women go get the degrees and work the soul-crushing daily grind. Men will stay home, raise the kids, drink beer and play video games.
 
2011-10-06 11:20:04 AM

rev. dave: AngryJailhouseFistfark:
You need church for that? At my house we just call that "not being a douche."

As a reformed atheist, I know now that my resistance to religion was because I hated the hypocrisy. IMHO everyone has a need for a deeper meaning, the rules are what gets in the way. They should have used the concept of leveling with religion where they don't impose all the stupid restrictions until long after you understand the basics of being nice to one another. A good place for hard core atheists to start is non-religious philosophy and ethics, if that satisfies your inner needs then good. Buddhism and Taoism are also a good way to start for people who don't want a religious CEO.


Thanks for the suggestions, but if it's OK with you I'll just continue to treat my fellow human beings as I'd want to be treated, and religion with the contempt it deserves.

/Just imagine the trillions of hours that mankind has spent pointlessly pondering religious matters over the last few thousands of years. And what a farking waste of highly-evolved neurons that was.
 
2011-10-06 11:21:03 AM

hitlersbrain: What's funny is that all the fields women enter will slowly become less and less respected and interesting. Men have the energy. The world follows the energy.


Wut?

If that's true then what will be left to men besides prison and video games?
 
2011-10-06 11:21:45 AM

Rip Dashrock: Right now, I am getting ready for three days of dirt bike riding in the desert with my "divorced, no desire to remarry" friends. Riding, drinking, BBQ'ing steaks, just generally having lots of fun. Don't have to get "permission" from anyone to go, next weekend is a buds birthday - already have a party planned at the local strip joint.
Yeah, it's tough, would give the freedom up to be stuck in a thankless marriage, working to support the ideals of a status hungry wife........NOT.
After 10 years of the married lifestyle, I can attest that being single is freakin' awesome, no desire to ever get married again.


That sounds awesome.
 
2011-10-06 11:22:25 AM
Learning that there are no consequences for one's actions as kids leads to adults who don't value anything but the gratification of their own needs. I do think there is something to this stuff about missing role models. I am constantly asking myself what my dad would do in certain situations. Not sure where my ethics/principles would come from if I hadn't had him around until he died.

Men do suck and are immature, but this crap about women being mature is ridiculous. Most of the women I know still throw temper tantrums to get what they want, just like my 3yr old daughter.
 
2011-10-06 11:29:22 AM
Single atheist video gamers represent.
 
2011-10-06 11:29:34 AM
Whenever I talk with post-boomer adults, either gender, about relationships and families and all that, I can't help but notice that practically no one speaks about what they can offer to another person or to children in a marriage. It's always about what they want out of life, or a spouse, or a job, or whatever. It's always about what I can get, or my needs, or my happiness and fulfillment, and so on until I just feel a huge facepalm coming on. A mouthful of gimme and a handful of take, as a friend once said.

I've had a great marriage for 30 years now. The life wasn't always great, but the marriage was. Two wonderful kids, the works. I understood that when I asked my wife to marry me that there would be problems, and that the idea was that we would help each other go through this life in the best way we knew. She believed the same thing. If you go into a relationship with the attitude that it is something for your own benefit, and your desires go no further than that, that relationship will change before you wish or expect it to. And while I'm at it, let me tell you this about kids: They can be a tremendous vexation, and yes, they're expensive. But, when one of yours places first in a TaeKwonDo tournament at 8 years old and flashes a smile that lights up the gym (and as far as you're concerned the whole farking universe), you finally understand what's important. (Hint: It ain't video games). You can be talking to a friend one day 40 years from now and say "I've got three grandchildren", or "I once scored 1,000,000 on Star Cruisers". The choice is yours. But make no mistake; you're going to age, and you're going to die. Now, just how are you going to make it count? What will be your legacy?

Now get off my lawn. I've got to mow it. Cause the kids aren't old enough yet. But they're aging, too..........
 
2011-10-06 11:29:34 AM

tallguywithglasseson: Snarfangel: I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?"

Lol, he wrote that?

The kind of women who keep asking this question usually have quite a lot more to do with their own relationship problems than they would like everyone to believe.


This.


Smoking weed and video games is better than being with a psycho for the rest of your life.
 
2011-10-06 11:31:38 AM
To all the women that can't find a decent single guy...

5.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com

/hotlink
 
2011-10-06 11:32:14 AM

mr0x: The best games are rated mature, that are recommended for 17 and over. It's very convenient to make the cutoff mark 17. Most games are targeted towards 18-34 males and so maybe that's why they spend more time playing it. Young girls probably spend more time in the mall than older women.


Actually... the average age of a gamer today is 37. Think about that. But to throw a monkey wrench in his argument, gamers are 42% female and their share of the market is gradually increasing as well.
 
2011-10-06 11:36:38 AM
Once upon a time, a handsome Prince asked a beautiful Princess "Will you marry me?"

The Princess said "NO."

And the Prince lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and screwed skinny, big titted broads and hunted and raced cars. He went to naked bars and dated women half his age and drank whiskey, beer and Captain Morgan and never heard biatching and never paid child support or alimony.

He kept his house and guns and never got cheated on and all his friends and family thought he was really cool as hell and he had tons of money in the bank and he left the toilet seat up ..... The End


/If this hasn't been said already, here it is
//If this has been said already, it bears repeating
 
2011-10-06 11:40:41 AM

GalFriday: What if you want them older than 20's? I am in my 30's.


Plenty of guys like that too. I think part of the problem can simply be finding one another. I know that's my major problem when it comes to dating. I'm an introvert, so I don't care for the bar scene or big parties or the like. While not going out randomly is good for the pocketbook, it is not so good for finding someone.

I've had some success with online dating, but some failures with it as well. You could give it a shot, just understand that it isn't perfect. For guys, the problem is that you are 100% expected to make contact with women and frequently your attempt at contact will not generate a response. From talking to women who've tried it the big problem is getting deluged with contacts along the lines of "yo sex girl whut up u wnt fark" or just straight out creeps.

But I can confirm, being one myself, there are men in their 30s who enjoy games, are not interested in "growing up" where "growing up" actually means "having a family", but yet still own a house, have a stable job, and all that jazz.

I would also say don't necessarily make "gamer" a requirement. All you really need is someone who has hobbies of their own and respects your right to have hobbies. My parents are wonderful examples of this. Their hobbies have little overlap, but they both respect what each other like. They'll sit together, each doing their own thing, but talking and enjoying their company. Must be doing something right to still be married over 40 years later.

So if you find a gamer you like, wonderful. I certainly would like to find a gamer girl. However don't make it a requirement. Just make sure it is someone that understands that games are just another hobby, no better or worse than anyone, and no more or less useful. Hobbies are, after all, not useful, they are fun.
 
2011-10-06 11:41:15 AM

Meatzilla: Women in general don't need men anymore. I blame Science and D-cell batteries.


Men in general don't need women anymore. I blame internet pr0n and opposable thumbs.
 
2011-10-06 11:43:36 AM

CornerPocket: Whenever I talk with post-boomer adults, either gender, about relationships and families and all that, I can't help but notice that practically no one speaks about what they can offer to another person or to children in a marriage. It's always about what they want out of life, or a spouse, or a job, or whatever. It's always about what I can get, or my needs, or my happiness and fulfillment, and so on until I just feel a huge facepalm coming on. A mouthful of gimme and a handful of take, as a friend once said.

I've had a great marriage for 30 years now. The life wasn't always great, but the marriage was. Two wonderful kids, the works. I understood that when I asked my wife to marry me that there would be problems, and that the idea was that we would help each other go through this life in the best way we knew. She believed the same thing. If you go into a relationship with the attitude that it is something for your own benefit, and your desires go no further than that, that relationship will change before you wish or expect it to. And while I'm at it, let me tell you this about kids: They can be a tremendous vexation, and yes, they're expensive. But, when one of yours places first in a TaeKwonDo tournament at 8 years old and flashes a smile that lights up the gym (and as far as you're concerned the whole farking universe), you finally understand what's important. (Hint: It ain't video games). You can be talking to a friend one day 40 years from now and say "I've got three grandchildren", or "I once scored 1,000,000 on Star Cruisers". The choice is yours. But make no mistake; you're going to age, and you're going to die. Now, just how are you going to make it count? What will be your legacy?

Now get off my lawn. I've got to mow it. Cause the kids aren't old enough yet. But they're aging, too..........


Yeah, because you can't do both, right? Maybe you can play video games with said kids? Maybe my kid won't want to do TaeKwonDo. Can't I get the same satisfaction if he beats Super Mario Bros. for the first time if that's what he decides he wants to do? Your logic is flawed in that those two things have to be mutually exclusive. Adults are allowed to have fun too. Just because you don't like the way they have fun doesn't make it wrong or mean you can't be a successful person or parent.
 
2011-10-06 11:53:46 AM

Jobber8742: CornerPocket: Whenever I talk with post-boomer adults, either gender, about relationships and families and all that, I can't help but notice that practically no one speaks about what they can offer to another person or to children in a marriage. It's always about what they want out of life, or a spouse, or a job, or whatever. It's always about what I can get, or my needs, or my happiness and fulfillment, and so on until I just feel a huge facepalm coming on. A mouthful of gimme and a handful of take, as a friend once said.

I've had a great marriage for 30 years now. The life wasn't always great, but the marriage was. Two wonderful kids, the works. I understood that when I asked my wife to marry me that there would be problems, and that the idea was that we would help each other go through this life in the best way we knew. She believed the same thing. If you go into a relationship with the attitude that it is something for your own benefit, and your desires go no further than that, that relationship will change before you wish or expect it to. And while I'm at it, let me tell you this about kids: They can be a tremendous vexation, and yes, they're expensive. But, when one of yours places first in a TaeKwonDo tournament at 8 years old and flashes a smile that lights up the gym (and as far as you're concerned the whole farking universe), you finally understand what's important. (Hint: It ain't video games). You can be talking to a friend one day 40 years from now and say "I've got three grandchildren", or "I once scored 1,000,000 on Star Cruisers". The choice is yours. But make no mistake; you're going to age, and you're going to die. Now, just how are you going to make it count? What will be your legacy?

Now get off my lawn. I've got to mow it. Cause the kids aren't old enough yet. But they're aging, too..........

Yeah, because you can't do both, right? Maybe you can play video games with said kids? Maybe my kid won't want to do TaeKwonDo. Can't I get the same satisfaction if he beats Super Mario Bros. for the first time if that's what he decides he wants to do? Your logic is flawed in that those two things have to be mutually exclusive. Adults are allowed to have fun too. Just because you don't like the way they have fun doesn't make it wrong or mean you can't be a successful person or parent.


I think the point of his post was the whooshing sound that went about a mile over your head...
 
2011-10-06 11:54:26 AM

Tomahawk513:
and yeah that 1950s vs 2010s statistic is such bs. The war literally killed off so many men that if you were even half way able bodied in 1950 you had a job in a jump-started, thriving industrial economy. But I'm sure that's just like today, somehow... Which is why 18-34 year-olds play more video games, they can't find work so what else are they gonna do?


Because the video games in 1950 kind of sucked.
 
2011-10-06 11:55:43 AM
If this article was trying to suggest that there are a lot of self centered man-boys out there then the author should have just stepped into this thread. That would have done something...
 
2011-10-06 11:55:47 AM
To be fair, I'd rather have an article about man's decline written by a man than by Hanna Rosin. She is sexist, offensive, and stupid. This article seems more like "doddering old man wishes it was the 50's," which is stupid and banal but relatively harmless.
 
2011-10-06 11:56:55 AM

ihatedumbpeople: Good...women can go earn the money for once, guys can sit at home watching Oprah while eating bon-bons, then when a old high school flame looks him up, he can run off to his fairy tale land and take half HER money instead.


This sounds awesome. I don't know why we didn't think of this before.
 
2011-10-06 11:57:06 AM

rev. dave: lordaction:
Marriage is a guaranteed lose-lose situation for men.

Which is why I want to remove all restrictions for gay marriage and see if they can do it better. Maybe they have some special formula that fixes what society has broken.


As a gay man, you'd think I'd be getting a kick out of these replies, but much to my surprise gay marriage is turning out to be a whole hell of a lot like straight marriage (if you end up being the more butch in the relationship).

/ what the hell do you mean i HAVE to get a better paying job? YOU get a better paying job!
 
2011-10-06 12:02:05 PM
I guess I'll add a bit more.

I don't want to get married. I don't want to have kids.

I want to smoke marijuana and play video games.

Everyone I know with kids is stressed out and angry. They have no time. They yell. They go to crappy little kid softball and soccer games.

I want to play video games. I don't want to take a 5 year old to baseball practice. I personally hate sports. I think they are boring.

So go on out there. Get married. Have kids. Go to church.

I'm gonna get high as shiat and break out Half Life 2 Orange box. Because that's how I roll.

/pass the Diet Mountain Dew
 
2011-10-06 12:02:23 PM

rev. dave: AngryJailhouseFistfark:

As a reformed Christian, I know my resistance to revealed religions comes largely from there being no there there. Not everyone has the need for deeper meaning, though. Some are perfectly satisfied with shallow materialism.


Are you satisfied with shallow materialism? Once a person reaches middle age you should be over that.

I highlighted the interesting part of your comment. Although you may think it is a profound atheist statement, it is very mystical. Heaven is a mental construct because our minds are too simple to understand an existence without form. If you understand the structure of the physical universe, you will understand the structure of the true Cosmology.


Speak in vague riddles and entice me to ask you offline to explain this magic place.

I am not satisfied with shallow materialism but I know plenty who are. But I also know, having reached middle-age and not being just some fresh-outta-the-chute idealist, that the Mystical Realms of Heaven are just as unknowable as you describe, and as such may as well not exist for all the effect they have on our daily lives. It is only the human constructs you mention that drive the Believers. I don't search for what I cannot find. I ate their pie, it was sweet in my mouth but proved bitter in my belly. It left me quite empty and undernourished in the end.

/lunchtime
 
2011-10-06 12:04:40 PM

CornerPocket: But make no mistake; you're going to age, and you're going to die. Now, just how are you going to make it count? What will be your legacy?


You're assuming I want a legacy?
 
2011-10-06 12:04:41 PM

Franko: / what the hell do you mean i HAVE to get a better paying job? YOU get a better paying job!


This this this and this. And did I mention this?
 
2011-10-06 12:08:36 PM

rubi_con_man: So you're saying they're like the dudes who ask why chicks date jerks, and why they won't date "nice guys" like themselves?

/hint: you're not that nice a guy.


No, that's not what I said.
Maybe you should try replying to someone who did say that, since you've obviously got an old, tired, formulaic response locked and loaded.

What I did say was that women who constantly complain that there are "no decent single guys out there" have a lot more to do with their circumstances than they want everyone to think, or probably even think themselves.

Hint: when all your friends are getting married or are in relationships, and you can't find any decent single guys, it's not because your friends got the very last ones.

//never said I was that nice a guy
 
2011-10-06 12:09:20 PM

Braindeath: CornerPocket: But make no mistake; you're going to age, and you're going to die. Now, just how are you going to make it count? What will be your legacy?

You're assuming I want a legacy?


I know. When I die I don't care WTF happens. I'll be dead.

People think it's weird I don't want kids.

Why can't my friends just have kids and keep their misery to themselves? They act like it's not 'fair' I chose not to have kids.
 
2011-10-06 12:10:31 PM
Honestly I think its that people like me (who do not WANT families) are realizing that its an option. In the 50's you were a social pariah if you weren't married by 20 and popping out kids shortly thereafter.

I don't WANT kids.
I don't WANT a wife (anymore).

Why then, should I actively seek those things out? Its not a maturity loss or gap; its a realization that doing something that makes you unhappy just because "Everyone else is" is NOT a good reason.

As a nation; we'd be far better off if less people that didn't want children, didn't have them. I work for a school... believe me the lack of parental involvement in these kids lives gets worse and worse every year. (PS: helicopter parenting is even WORSE then neglect)

People that want to be parents and do a bang-up job.. that's what we need more of; not everyone getting hitched to make some statistic happy.
 
2011-10-06 12:10:52 PM
This old guy should read/watch Fight Club.
 
2011-10-06 12:16:07 PM

DaShredda: I guess I'll add a bit more.

I don't want to get married. I don't want to have kids.

I want to smoke marijuana and play video games.

Everyone I know with kids is stressed out and angry. They have no time. They yell. They go to crappy little kid softball and soccer games.

I want to play video games. I don't want to take a 5 year old to baseball practice. I personally hate sports. I think they are boring.

So go on out there. Get married. Have kids. Go to church.

I'm gonna get high as shiat and break out Half Life 2 Orange box. Because that's how I roll.


/pass the Diet Mountain Dew



/FTFA
//Pretty much says it all.
 
2011-10-06 12:19:18 PM

DaShredda: I guess I'll add a bit more.

I don't want to get married. I don't want to have kids.

I want to smoke marijuana and play video games.

Everyone I know with kids is stressed out and angry. They have no time. They yell. They go to crappy little kid softball and soccer games.

I want to play video games. I don't want to take a 5 year old to baseball practice. I personally hate sports. I think they are boring.

So go on out there. Get married. Have kids. Go to church.

I'm gonna get high as shiat and break out Half Life 2 Orange box. Because that's how I roll.

/pass the Diet Mountain Dew


As long as you can afford you lifestyle I'm cool with that. Do what you want, be happy. The second you lifestyle costs me money (via taxes/welfare/unemployment payments) it's your ass.
 
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