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(SacBee)   Autism rates 497.81181619256 percent of what they were a decade ago   (sacbee.com ) divider line
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2011-10-05 04:34:49 PM  
Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.
 
2011-10-05 04:36:31 PM  

SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.


/thread
//Psychologist
 
2011-10-05 04:37:23 PM  
Hmm.
 
2011-10-05 04:38:23 PM  

thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist


/thread
//not a Psychologist
 
2011-10-05 04:40:27 PM  
Better stop vaccinating the little buggers.
 
2011-10-05 04:43:22 PM  
I think the answer is pretty obvious.
i.imgur.com
 
2011-10-05 04:49:12 PM  

thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist



At what point (5 years? 20?) does this response no longer apply?
/Parent.
 
2011-10-05 04:53:48 PM  
Also, I'm curious as to when these "financial incentives" kick in, since I'm about $12-$15k out of pocket every year since 1999.
 
2011-10-05 04:58:47 PM  

Bladel: thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist


At what point (5 years? 20?) does this response no longer apply?
/Parent.


Because as of yet there is no biological test for disorders such as autism, only behavioral and performance indicators, there is no way to tell to what extent the rate of identification will continue to increase. We used to just tell you your kid was stupid. The range of identifiable autism spectrum disorders has increased dramatically over the last decade, well beyond the old ratings system of "uninterested --> dumb --> stupid --> really stupid --> really really stoopid --> full retard"
 
2011-10-05 05:08:45 PM  
...even as vaccination rates decline, and vaccinations with thimerosal crater.
 
2011-10-05 05:09:37 PM  

GreenAdder: I think the answer is pretty obvious.
[i.imgur.com image 400x350]


/thread
//not an alien
 
2011-10-05 05:10:20 PM  
Bladel: At what point (5 years? 20?) does this response no longer apply?
/Parent.


when the definition of what constitutes autism stops expanding?
 
2011-10-05 05:11:49 PM  
Why doesn't somebody come up with a vaccine for autism?
 
2011-10-05 05:12:17 PM  

Daniels: Bladel: At what point (5 years? 20?) does this response no longer apply?
/Parent.

when the definition of what constitutes autism stops expanding?


You mean, not every annoying, dorky kid is autistic?
 
2011-10-05 05:12:34 PM  

GreenAdder: I think the answer is pretty obvious. Aliens.[i.imgur.com image 400x350]


Spock is not impressed with your autism rates.
s3.amazonaws.com
federation issue clownshoes
 
2011-10-05 05:12:47 PM  
The increasing popularity of small slider style burgers that better fit children's asses?
 
2011-10-05 05:12:48 PM  
Stop making babies with geeks.
 
2011-10-05 05:12:48 PM  
danielderooij.com

/Just sayin'
 
2011-10-05 05:14:00 PM  
A decade ago you weren't Autistic; You were a SPED. (Special Education) and lumped into the same classroom with kids with down syndrome.
 
2011-10-05 05:14:48 PM  

Aquapope: Why doesn't somebody come up with a vaccine for autism?


Winchester already does
 
2011-10-05 05:15:22 PM  
Thread done in 2, excellent work lads.

/Psychologist
 
2011-10-05 05:15:29 PM  
That's because it's more profitable for drug companies to have a new fad diagnosis. "Bad parenting" is hard to write a prescription for.

Yes, there are real autistics out there. Unfortunately it's also a massively over-diagnosed syndrome, just like a whole generation of Ritalin-fueled kids diagnosed as ADHD simply because they act like normal kids and not zombies.
 
2011-10-05 05:16:20 PM  
fluoridation
 
2011-10-05 05:16:43 PM  
Uhm...this may be a long shot, but what about our food supply? Why the fark isn't anyone looking into the insane amount of untested GMO foods pregnant women are eating??

Or would that stand in the way of making money?

Oh fark it, nevermind.
 
2011-10-05 05:18:03 PM  
What is going to happen to doctors when there's finally nothing left to diagnose for funding?

Oh wait, I'll slap myself here for the crazy talk.
 
2011-10-05 05:18:40 PM  
I want to know how Subby performed that calculation.

I don't have to do an explicit calculation to see that 2275/500 is not as high as 4.9181... it's a little over 4.5.

Also, to calculate the rate we'd need to know the total population size in that area, then and now.

Oh, and Qantas never crashed.
 
2011-10-05 05:20:48 PM  

fluffy2097: A decade ago you weren't Autistic; You were a SPED. (Special Education) and lumped into the same classroom with kids with down syndrome.


Which, ironically, is where the anti-vaxxers belong.
 
2011-10-05 05:20:51 PM  

thirdspade: We used to just tell you your kid was stupid.


Bingo the Clown says you've won the prize.
 
2011-10-05 05:23:19 PM  
Kids dying from looking at peanuts seem to be up too.
 
2011-10-05 05:23:20 PM  

Mad_Radhu: The increasing popularity of small slider style burgers that better fit children's asses?


talkaboutequality.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-10-05 05:23:28 PM  
I guess my son is an autism spectrum hipster, because todays diagnosis was what has been wrong with him for nearly 40 years. How convenient now to have all this 'help', because I farking sure as shiat never had anyone help me with it back then. One extreme to the other.
 
2011-10-05 05:24:25 PM  

Mugato: Kids dying from looking at peanuts seem to be up too.


www.mikelawton.com
 
2011-10-05 05:25:06 PM  
Judging from the frothing-at-the-mouth lunacy of the parents of many autistic children, I believe autism to be the natural genetic result that occurs when two paranoid schizophrenic conspiracy theorists breed.
 
2011-10-05 05:25:21 PM  

Bladel: Also, I'm curious as to when these "financial incentives" kick in, since I'm about $12-$15k out of pocket every year since 1999.


This! After 7yrs we are coming to the realization that even with every minute of our time and every cent of our paychecks, our son will still need residential care as an adult. We don't trust therapists, doctors or the schools to do what is best for him. It is all about money to them. Big money!

/...and about that Christian nation...
 
2011-10-05 05:25:23 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Aquapope: Why doesn't somebody come up with a vaccine for autism?

Winchester already does


www.bestcareanywhere.net
Then why doesn't he market that shiat?
 
2011-10-05 05:25:33 PM  

Draskuul: That's because it's more profitable for drug companies to have a new fad diagnosis. "Bad parenting" is hard to write a prescription for.

Yes, there are real autistics out there. Unfortunately it's also a massively over-diagnosed syndrome, just like a whole generation of Ritalin-fueled kids diagnosed as ADHD simply because they act like normal kids and not zombies.


Which would be cool, you know, if there were actually prescriptions that made autism better.
 
2011-10-05 05:26:00 PM  
Made up disease by doctors and drug companies.

Link (new window)
 
2011-10-05 05:27:40 PM  
I really don't understand why people are crying about this. You wait 18 years, take them to Vegas and clean up.
 
2011-10-05 05:27:57 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: ...even as vaccination rates decline, and vaccinations with thimerosal crater.


Oh, and let's not forget that countries that have recently been introduced to those vaccines haven't seen any increase in Autism rates.

thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist


Oh, interesting. I'm about to graduate with a BA in Psych (which amounts to nothing, I'm aware), and I wanted to ask if the following problem presented by my teacher is, in fact, true:

Person comes in, asking for some sort of mental help
Given only 15-30 minutes to interview person
If you don't have a DSM diagnosis after the session, insurance won't pay (and even then, some conditions the insurance companies won't cover, so you have to call it something they cover)
Hence, often people are diagnosed with things that either they don't have or there is very little evidence to conclude that they have.
 
2011-10-05 05:28:01 PM  
thirdspade

We used to just tell you ...


.. but now that there is fiscal incentives to tell you the kid is autistic....we go where the $$ is.
 
2011-10-05 05:28:08 PM  
tardigrade: I want to know how Subby performed that calculation.

I don't have to do an explicit calculation to see that 2275/500 is not as high as 4.9181... it's a little over 4.5.



2275 / 457 -- according tio the chart
 
2011-10-05 05:28:14 PM  

thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist


Bullshiat.
//Bullshiatologist
 
2011-10-05 05:28:18 PM  
Definitely due to vaccinations. Jenny McCarthy told me, even though Big Medicine has tried to cover it up. Only way to stop the trend is to go no-vac. Better declaw your cats while you're at it. And not circumsize your baby boys.
 
2011-10-05 05:29:30 PM  

fluffy2097: A decade ago you weren't Autistic; You were a SPED. (Special Education) and lumped into the same classroom with kids with down syndrome.


The most severe cases of autism are taught in classrooms with DS. Sadly, the DS kids perform better. They are typically more compliant.
 
2011-10-05 05:30:31 PM  

Bladel: thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist

At what point (5 years? 20?) does this response no longer apply?
/Parent.


You're the parent. If Jenny McCarthy is any guide, most of you have already stopped listening to the truth even though scientists are barely more than a couple of decades into the research of this really, really complicated disease.

great_tigers: Made up disease by doctors and drug companies.

Link (new window)


Lol. You keep telling yourself that, sparky.
 
2011-10-05 05:31:12 PM  

thirdspade:
Which would be cool, you know, if there were actually prescriptions that made autism better.


Never fear, sooner or later Pfizer will come out with a $500 a day placebo that will solve it all, but only if taken daily for life.
 
2011-10-05 05:32:12 PM  

Bladel: thirdspade: SphericalTime: Better diagnosis, more doctor awareness, more financial incentive (for schools & parents) to have the diagnosis.

/thread
//Psychologist


At what point (5 years? 20?) does this response no longer apply?
/Parent.


I'm a little confused. Your comment seems to indicate you believe that the status of "psychologist" equals that of "parent" with respect to the diagnosis and treatment of autism. I was not aware that you had to earn a degree in psychology in order to become a parent. Do you have any real qualifications that would convince me of the validity of your comment? (Anecdotal evidence or personal experience, sad as they may make me on a personal level, do not count.)
 
2011-10-05 05:32:18 PM  
i135.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-05 05:32:23 PM  

GladGirl: Definitely due to vaccinations. Jenny McCarthy told me, even though Big Medicine has tried to cover it up. Only way to stop the trend is to go no-vac. Better declaw your cats while you're at it. And not circumsize your baby boys.


Koolaid now ready for consumption...
 
2011-10-05 05:32:49 PM  

phlegmmo: tardigrade: I want to know how Subby performed that calculation.

I don't have to do an explicit calculation to see that 2275/500 is not as high as 4.9181... it's a little over 4.5.

2275 / 457 -- according tio the chart


Shiat. I should have read TFA more carefully, and tried wiggling the cursor over the chart!

But why would they say "quadruple" in the headline when it's almost 500%?
 
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