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(Washington Post)   Obama donor given the business after May 2010 warning that monkey business at Solyndra was risky business   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 54
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2011-10-03 04:10:00 PM  
That's a 15 yard penalty!
Link (new window)
 
2011-10-03 04:10:07 PM  
matty3711.files.wordpress.com

Business
 
2011-10-03 04:10:32 PM  
concern about guaranteeing a loan to a company in danger of failure might've been nice too
 
2011-10-03 04:11:10 PM  

"What was once a showcase of the Obama administration's clean-energy initiative is now a political crisis for the White House."


Why? He visited, but it's not like he directly handed them a suitcase of cash. There are more substansive things to hammer Obama about, starting with the economy and the still terrible job situation. But this visiting a failed company is minor in comparison.

 
2011-10-03 04:11:16 PM  

beerrun: That's a 15 yard penalty!
Link (new window)


beat me to it
 
2011-10-03 04:13:20 PM  
More as a general point (as I know very little about the company in question), but government should only be investing in risky long shots (when talking about giving out cheap funds to relatively small businesses for r&d) - both in terms of science or technology. If a company or scientific investigation is a sure thing then private companies will fund it, it is only high risk things that would be highly beneficial that government should be involved in with these sorts of deals.
 
2011-10-03 04:13:35 PM  
Oh good, more articles about 0.7% of the total renewable energy investments.
 
2011-10-03 04:18:23 PM  
cloudfront.mediamatters.org
 
2011-10-03 04:19:28 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Oh good, more articles about 0.7% of the total renewable energy investments.


"What's terrifying is that after looking at some of the ones that came next, this one started to look better," said one April 2010 e-mail, referring to the Solyndra decision, and others that followed. "Bad days are coming."

that doesn't sound good.
 
2011-10-03 04:20:13 PM  
Car_Ramrod: Oh good, more articles about 0.7% of the total renewable energy investments.
 
2011-10-03 04:20:27 PM  

dehehn: [cloudfront.mediamatters.org image 590x323]


Ok, Obama was been president for nearly three years. Why hasnt he fixed that fraud?\



/Is that a buutttt buuuttt bush graph?
 
2011-10-03 04:24:11 PM  

skullkrusher: Car_Ramrod: Oh good, more articles about 0.7% of the total renewable energy investments.

"What's terrifying is that after looking at some of the ones that came next, this one started to look better," said one April 2010 e-mail, referring to the Solyndra decision, and others that followed. "Bad days are coming."

that doesn't sound good.


Of course not. If they were good investments the private sector would have been pouring money into them. You can count on one thing for sure in this respect, investors are greedy. They don't have any political ideology that is more important to them than making money. They will invest in whatever they believe is going to be profitable. That these companies are unable to get private investment and must rely on the government tells you that they are not good investments compared with others available.

That's not to say that green energy isn't worthwhile, but it obviously is something that investors don't believe is a good investment right now.
 
2011-10-03 04:24:35 PM  
cloudfront.mediamatters.org

^ THIS ^


Get back to me after we stop wasting a few billion a week in the desert...
 
2011-10-03 04:24:49 PM  

skullkrusher: Car_Ramrod: Oh good, more articles about 0.7% of the total renewable energy investments.

"What's terrifying is that after looking at some of the ones that came next, this one started to look better," said one April 2010 e-mail, referring to the Solyndra decision, and others that followed. "Bad days are coming."

that doesn't sound good.


[genericstarkmottojoke.jpg]
 
2011-10-03 04:25:10 PM  
Is this really the best scandal the Republicans can come up with? "Obama went to 22 companies that produce green energy equipment and one of the 22 went bankrupt!" Really?
 
2011-10-03 04:27:06 PM  

thenooch: Get back to me after we stop wasting a few billion a week in the desert...


Yeah, why hasnt Obama started working on all that fraud? He has been president for 3 years. He should have been able to stop a bunch of it by now.
 
2011-10-03 04:30:38 PM  

sprawl15: skullkrusher: Car_Ramrod: Oh good, more articles about 0.7% of the total renewable energy investments.

"What's terrifying is that after looking at some of the ones that came next, this one started to look better," said one April 2010 e-mail, referring to the Solyndra decision, and others that followed. "Bad days are coming."

that doesn't sound good.

[genericstarkmottojoke.jpg]


solar panels in a 10 year winter ain't a good idea
 
2011-10-03 04:42:43 PM  

beerrun: That's a 15 yard penalty!
Link (new window)


I don't know why, but I like this one (pops) better
 
2011-10-03 04:43:05 PM  

jayg22: thenooch: Get back to me after we stop wasting a few billion a week in the desert...

Yeah, why hasnt Obama started working on all that fraud? He has been president for 3 years. He should have been able to stop a bunch of it by now.


Yes, why hasn't 0bama gone back in time and stopped all the previous waste and fraud from happening. What a jerk
 
2011-10-03 04:45:05 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Yes, why hasn't 0bama gone back in time and stopped all the previous waste and fraud from happening. What a jerk


because prosecuting fraud and waste that happened in the past is impossible. It has to be happening right now or its not worth fixing.
 
2011-10-03 04:48:59 PM  

Geotpf: Is this really the best scandal the Republicans can come up with? "Obama went to 22 companies that produce green energy equipment and one of the 22 went bankrupt!" Really?


You do realize that the DEMOCRATS came up with this all on their own, right? Blaming the GOP for this is, well, stupid. It's like blaming the Emperor's lack of clothes on the kid...

...and no, it's not the "best" scandal from the Obama folk. It's merely the most obvious one, since basically everyone told them it was a bad idea.

/biggest is still Gunrunner
//each of these is bad enough on their own
 
2011-10-03 05:00:12 PM  

jayg22: Peter von Nostrand: Yes, why hasn't 0bama gone back in time and stopped all the previous waste and fraud from happening. What a jerk

because prosecuting fraud and waste that happened in the past is impossible. It has to be happening right now or its not worth fixing.


More than likely because it wouldn't be very difficult a task to take on. Meanwhile, the economy is in the crapper, there are two wars, one party is hell bent on fighting him on every single thing, etc. It's simply a matter of deciding what's worth taking on and what isn't. Does that make it right, no. But that probably isn't the point of the graph either
 
2011-10-03 05:03:49 PM  

cirby: Geotpf: Is this really the best scandal the Republicans can come up with? "Obama went to 22 companies that produce green energy equipment and one of the 22 went bankrupt!" Really?

You do realize that the DEMOCRATS came up with this all on their own, right? Blaming the GOP for this is, well, stupid. It's like blaming the Emperor's lack of clothes on the kid...

...and no, it's not the "best" scandal from the Obama folk. It's merely the most obvious one, since basically everyone told them it was a bad idea.

/biggest is still Gunrunner
//each of these is bad enough on their own


Obama is as much to blame on Fast and Furious as Bush is for Haditha. The president is the person these people answer to, but he does not create and approve all policies from them.
 
2011-10-03 05:05:10 PM  

save russian jews: cirby: Geotpf: Is this really the best scandal the Republicans can come up with? "Obama went to 22 companies that produce green energy equipment and one of the 22 went bankrupt!" Really?

You do realize that the DEMOCRATS came up with this all on their own, right? Blaming the GOP for this is, well, stupid. It's like blaming the Emperor's lack of clothes on the kid...

...and no, it's not the "best" scandal from the Obama folk. It's merely the most obvious one, since basically everyone told them it was a bad idea.

/biggest is still Gunrunner
//each of these is bad enough on their own

Obama is as much to blame on Fast and Furious as Bush is for Haditha. The president is the person these people answer to, but he does not create and approve all policies from them.


I blame Vin Diesel. All mulattos aren't the same person, ya know.
 
2011-10-03 05:09:32 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: More than likely because it wouldn't be very difficult a task to take on. Meanwhile, the economy is in the crapper, there are two wars, one party is hell bent on fighting him on every single thing, etc. It's simply a matter of deciding what's worth taking on and what isn't. Does that make it right, no. But that probably isn't the point of the graph either


Of course not thats a "buuuuttt....buuuttt... bush graph".
 
2011-10-03 05:29:46 PM  

jayg22: Peter von Nostrand: More than likely because it wouldn't be very difficult a task to take on. Meanwhile, the economy is in the crapper, there are two wars, one party is hell bent on fighting him on every single thing, etc. It's simply a matter of deciding what's worth taking on and what isn't. Does that make it right, no. But that probably isn't the point of the graph either

Of course not thats a "buuuuttt....buuuttt... bush graph".


I think the point of the graph is that some of the people are making a big deal of this turned cheek not so long ago and ignored obvious fraud on a much wider scale
 
2011-10-03 05:32:36 PM  
So a donor who might've had a vested interest in Sol. failing warned Obama against funding it?
 
2011-10-03 06:03:48 PM  
Why don't we talk about how much money the Bush administration
wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan with no bid contracts to administration
functionaries former corporations and their friends.

/ I believe it's many billions of dollars.
//Why no biatching about that?
///Well Republicans I'm waiting.
 
2011-10-03 06:08:12 PM  
What tells me that this particular scandal doesn't have the legs that the Republicans hoped for is that this thread is still under 50 comments.
 
2011-10-03 06:15:49 PM  

jayg22: Of course not thats a "buuuuttt....buuuttt... bush graph".


So if you are blaming Bush for that waste why don't you hop in your time machine and go back and do something about it? Why is it up to Obama to go back and stop him? Lazy Americans like you are why John Titor wanted nothing to do with this timeline.
 
2011-10-03 06:16:54 PM  

theorellior: What tells me that this particular scandal doesn't have the legs that the Republicans hoped for is that this thread is still under 50 comments.


What this thread tells me is that even Obama's former supporters have given up trying to defend his incompetence.
 
2011-10-03 06:22:21 PM  

theorellior: What tells me that this particular scandal doesn't have the legs that the Republicans hoped for is that this thread is still under 50 comments.


Well, considering that 99.99% of Farkers are raging liberals, it's more likely that they decided to just stay away from this thread (hence the relatively low number of posts). It's only an opportunity to make themselves look even more idiotic.
 
2011-10-03 06:30:51 PM  
How about the military contractor that sold us the jet fighters at $340 million per aircraft that can't fly in the rain? Oh wait, that's a Fortune 500 corporation who happens to advertise heavily on cable news...nevermind...
 
2011-10-03 06:34:28 PM  
Since the previous president wasted so much money in other ways, there is nothing wrong with this and it should be ignored.

Is that what some of you are trying to say? Because if that's what you are trying to say, you are worthless partisan idiots.

I agree that this is really nothing in terms of $ compared to the previous administration, but you're a tool if you just blow it off as nothing using that reasoning.
 
2011-10-03 06:34:36 PM  
Obama is terrible at economics and business planning. If Obama ran a pizza restaurant in the same town Herman Cain ran a pizza restaurant, Herman Cain would have drove Obama out of business because of the food, advertising, sales, costs, and research. Pizza from Herman Cain's restaurant would come to my doorstop after I ordered some.

Bank of America should hire Obama as a business consultant when he becomes a one term President.
 
2011-10-03 06:55:26 PM  

GanjSmokr: I agree that this is really nothing in terms of $ compared to the previous administration, but you're a tool if you just blow it off as nothing using that reasoning.


Perhaps the DoE should call in the FBI to investigate? Would that count as not blowing it off even though the amount of money is dwarfed by the pallets of $100 bills that disappeared once they were offloaded from the cargo planes and no one was ever called to task for it?

Fine. Consider it done.
 
2011-10-03 06:56:13 PM  
save russian jews:
Obama is as much to blame on Fast and Furious as Bush is for Haditha.

Keep telling yourself that. At first, it was "it's only the local guys," then it was "it was just the Southwest office," now it's "well, the National Security guys who work in the White House and report to Obama every day didn't bother mentioning it to him."

We're already two steps closer to Obama than Bush ever was to Haditha, and the document drops keep coming. On the weekends, of course.

Don't worry, though, it's not going to last much longer. The White House staffers have already figured out that they're going to get thrown under the bus real soon, and they're probably shopping their memoirs to Random House as we speak.
 
2011-10-03 07:07:22 PM  

TwoHead: GanjSmokr: I agree that this is really nothing in terms of $ compared to the previous administration, but you're a tool if you just blow it off as nothing using that reasoning.

Perhaps the DoE should call in the FBI to investigate? Would that count as not blowing it off even though the amount of money is dwarfed by the pallets of $100 bills that disappeared once they were offloaded from the cargo planes and no one was ever called to task for it?

Fine. Consider it done.



Acknowledging this was a bad thing instead of justifying/dismissing it by talking about how bad the last president was would be a nice start.

We know Bush sucked. Hard. People need to quit defending Obama with that reasoning. Defend him because you think what he did was right. Not because the last guy was worse.
 
2011-10-03 07:11:57 PM  
Call me when the Obama administration starts a war under false pretenses so that Biden's former employer can make hundreds of billions.
 
2011-10-03 07:22:50 PM  

bronyaur1: Call me when the Obama administration starts a war under false pretenses so that Biden's former employer can make hundreds of billions.


So ordering the US military to support the ethnic cleansing of black sub-saharan africans from Libya doesn't cut it in that case?
 
2011-10-03 07:23:53 PM  

bronyaur1: Biden's former employer


The Wilmington, DE Public Defender's Office?
Biden & Walsh?
New Castle City Council?
The United States Senate?

Ok, some folks in that last one probably made bank on the war.
 
2011-10-03 07:29:39 PM  
Das Geschaft.
 
2011-10-03 07:38:42 PM  
www.alphaomegaleasing.com

"Hmm, this article gives me a fist chin."
 
2011-10-03 07:40:53 PM  

beta_plus: bronyaur1: Call me when the Obama administration starts a war under false pretenses so that Biden's former employer can make hundreds of billions.

So ordering the US military to support the ethnic cleansing of black sub-saharan africans from Libya doesn't cut it in that case?


Goddamn that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard you say. And you say some incredibly stupid things.

Yeah, we totally should've been on Qadafi's side.

/rolls eyes
 
2011-10-03 07:46:51 PM  

GanjSmokr: TwoHead: GanjSmokr: I agree that this is really nothing in terms of $ compared to the previous administration, but you're a tool if you just blow it off as nothing using that reasoning.

Perhaps the DoE should call in the FBI to investigate? Would that count as not blowing it off even though the amount of money is dwarfed by the pallets of $100 bills that disappeared once they were offloaded from the cargo planes and no one was ever called to task for it?

Fine. Consider it done.

Acknowledging this was a bad thing instead of justifying/dismissing it by talking about how bad the last president was would be a nice start.

We know Bush sucked. Hard. People need to quit defending Obama with that reasoning. Defend him because you think what he did was right. Not because the last guy was worse.


Wait, are you saying you don't want an investigation, you want to skip ahead to the blaming? Doesn't it matter who, if anyone, did something wrong in your book?
 
2011-10-03 07:58:25 PM  

Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: bronyaur1: Call me when the Obama administration starts a war under false pretenses so that Biden's former employer can make hundreds of billions.

So ordering the US military to support the ethnic cleansing of black sub-saharan africans from Libya doesn't cut it in that case?

Goddamn that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard you say. And you say some incredibly stupid things.

Yeah, we totally should've been on Qadafi's side.

/rolls eyes


HOPE

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CHANGE


/Saddam Hussein only killed his own people! it wasn't our business
//That's what makes Libya different
///This is what liberals actually believe
 
2011-10-03 08:02:16 PM  

TwoHead: GanjSmokr: TwoHead: GanjSmokr: I agree that this is really nothing in terms of $ compared to the previous administration, but you're a tool if you just blow it off as nothing using that reasoning.

Perhaps the DoE should call in the FBI to investigate? Would that count as not blowing it off even though the amount of money is dwarfed by the pallets of $100 bills that disappeared once they were offloaded from the cargo planes and no one was ever called to task for it?

Fine. Consider it done.

Acknowledging this was a bad thing instead of justifying/dismissing it by talking about how bad the last president was would be a nice start.

We know Bush sucked. Hard. People need to quit defending Obama with that reasoning. Defend him because you think what he did was right. Not because the last guy was worse.

Wait, are you saying you don't want an investigation, you want to skip ahead to the blaming? Doesn't it matter who, if anyone, did something wrong in your book?



Not sure how you scampered to that assumption, but it's not what I was saying. I'd love to see investigations into ALL wrongdoings no matter if it was (R) or (D).

My original comment about not defending Obama by citing Bush was directed to those in this thread. You know, the people who might actually read it. The FBI and DoE are going to do what they do without my suggestions.
 
2011-10-03 08:38:59 PM  

beta_plus: blah blah blah


I saw the website you got that pic from: Link

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cloud.frontpagemag.com

Looks totally legit.
 
2011-10-03 08:47:45 PM  
i207.photobucket.com
 
2011-10-03 09:04:50 PM  

Mrtraveler01: beta_plus: blah blah blah

I saw the website you got that pic from: Link

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Looks totally legit.


I see that your butt-hurt is showing. Would the neo-con fascists at the huffington post help soothe it? (new window)
 
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