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(USA Today)   Okay, I'll get my child vaccinated, you needle-loving doctor man. But only if you let me use my extensive background in not knowing anything about medicine to devise my own alternative vaccination schedule   (yourlife.usatoday.com) divider line 386
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2011-10-03 07:59:38 AM
I wonder if there will ever be a vaccine for stupidity?
 
2011-10-03 08:17:58 AM

mr_a: I wonder if there will ever be a vaccine for stupidity?


There's one that will stop it. Not really cure it, mind you.
 
2011-10-03 08:18:16 AM

mr_a: I wonder if there will ever be a vaccine for stupidity?


I believe they invented it around 1911. It holds up to 7 doses in the original model. I've hear tales of up to 20 dose models but, they're supposed to be illegal and are less effective for quick vaccinations.
 
2011-10-03 08:48:15 AM
Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.
 
2011-10-03 09:00:08 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


Just like those parents whose children die when they try to 'pray' away disease.
 
2011-10-03 09:19:18 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


Not when their children are running around unvaccinated and exposing the rest of us to illness.
 
2011-10-03 09:28:04 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


Overruling doctors because of their own idiocy is not in the best interests of their children. Parents should not have the right to endanger their children's future.
 
2011-10-03 09:33:41 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


Parents also have the right to have a nice heart-to-heart with their daughters and explain how it's OK that Jesus gave them slut cancer.
 
2011-10-03 09:42:38 AM

doglover: mr_a: I wonder if there will ever be a vaccine for stupidity?

I believe they invented it around 1911. It holds up to 7 doses in the original model. I've hear tales of up to 20 dose models but, they're supposed to be illegal and are less effective for quick vaccinations.


The Browning method?
 
2011-10-03 09:47:37 AM
The big bad government was heavily involved in the discovery, production, and distribution of the Polio vaccine. I, for one, am very happy they were.
 
2011-10-03 09:47:39 AM
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
--RAH

Learn it, love it, live it.
 
2011-10-03 10:08:02 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


See that's the problem with the world right there. Too many decisions based on what feels right as opposed to making decisions on the basis of what the facts show.
 
2011-10-03 10:13:41 AM
New Age Science: I got the flu vaccine once and then got the flu; the last thing I want is to give my kid the MMR shot, they'll get measles, mumps, rubella, AND mercury toxicity AND autism all the at the same time!
 
2011-10-03 10:17:16 AM

NuttierThanEver: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

See that's the problem with the world right there. Too many decisions based on what feels right as opposed to making decisions on the basis of what the facts show.


truthiness in action
 
2011-10-03 10:22:11 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


What if I believe that what's best for my kids is to beat them savagely with a baseball bat. OH YEAH.

/Not really. Well, some people's kids maybe.
 
2011-10-03 10:23:40 AM

jchic: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Just like those parents whose children die when they try to 'pray' away disease.



Yes, and like those kids who die when their parents pray to the God of Modern Medicine.

/Dead is dead
 
2011-10-03 10:25:30 AM

smooshie: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Not when their children are running around unvaccinated and exposing the rest of us to illness.



Well, if YOUR kids are vaccinated, it shouldn't be a problem.

Or don't you trust those vaccines?
 
2011-10-03 10:32:54 AM

Amos Quito: jchic: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Just like those parents whose children die when they try to 'pray' away disease.


Yes, and like those kids who die when their parents pray to the God of Modern Medicine.

/Dead is dead


Are you really that ignorant?
 
2011-10-03 10:33:07 AM

Amos Quito: jchic: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Just like those parents whose children die when they try to 'pray' away disease.


Yes, and like those kids who die when their parents pray to the God of Modern Medicine.

/Dead is dead


Yes but with medicine the odds have improved as shown by the evidence.
Childhood ALL (leukemia formerly had 80% (new window)

Polio incidence has declined by 99% since 1988 (new window)

Show me an article where prayer or chanting or holistic herbs can show such an improvement over time instead of it showing the expected placebo result and I will gladly admit that I am wrong.
 
2011-10-03 10:34:08 AM
Correction to my previous post
it should have read that ALL previously had 5 year survival of
 
2011-10-03 10:43:46 AM

Amos Quito: smooshie: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Not when their children are running around unvaccinated and exposing the rest of us to illness.


Well, if YOUR kids are vaccinated, it shouldn't be a problem.

Or don't you trust those vaccines?


Since vaccines aren't 100% effective, herd immunity is necessary. You don't really fail to understand that, do you?
 
2011-10-03 10:44:28 AM
What

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People
 
2011-10-03 10:44:51 AM

SiON42X: New Age Science: I got the flu vaccine once and then got the flu; the last thing I want is to give my kid the MMR shot, they'll get measles, mumps, rubella, AND mercury toxicity AND autism all the at the same time!


As someone who did actually get the measles from the MMR shot, I'm getting a kick. . .

/mom ended up firing the pediatrician because he wouldn't listen to her, patted her on her head, and told her to quit reading so many Dr. Spock books
 
2011-10-03 10:51:46 AM

mattharvest: Amos Quito: smooshie: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Not when their children are running around unvaccinated and exposing the rest of us to illness.


Well, if YOUR kids are vaccinated, it shouldn't be a problem.

Or don't you trust those vaccines?

Since vaccines aren't 100% effective, herd immunity is necessary. You don't really fail to understand that, do you?


There is also the problem of school age kids having a baby sibling at home who hasn't been vaccinated yet and is killed because some idiot didn't vaccinate their kid.
 
2011-10-03 10:55:27 AM
My take on it is that if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, fine. But then you have the responsibility to keep them the fark away from my kids, forever. That means your little Typhoid Mary doesn't go to public schools or public parks, or the library, or the zoo, or the movies, etc.
 
2011-10-03 10:56:38 AM
At a time when many infectious diseases are making a comeback

Don't call it a comeback
They been here for years
Rockin' their peers and puttin suckas in fear
 
2011-10-03 11:00:35 AM
This is how the CIA spread AIDS. I think God ("Mother Nature" or "evolution" for you libtards) created an orderly universe based on checks and balances. Putting your thumb on the scale is why we have overpopulation and (allegedly) global warming. The herd should be thinned.
 
2011-10-03 11:00:38 AM

Amos Quito: smooshie: AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

Not when their children are running around unvaccinated and exposing the rest of us to illness.


Well, if YOUR kids are vaccinated, it shouldn't be a problem.

Or don't you trust those vaccines?


Maybe a visual demonstation will help. Link (new window)
 
2011-10-03 11:27:12 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


Until their decisions harm their child and the children around them.
 
2011-10-03 11:29:59 AM

Peki: /mom ended up firing the pediatrician


You don't fire a doctor.

They aren't your employee. They're there to provide you with advice and treatment based on the best scientific evidence to date.
 
2011-10-03 11:33:38 AM

AbbeySomeone: Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.


Did you just invent this right out of thin air?
 
2011-10-03 11:37:01 AM
Ugh. These are probably the same bastards that condemn today's society for loose morals, or "just doing what feels right."
 
2011-10-03 11:37:23 AM
My kid's pediatrician, and her whole group , in fact, fires patients who won't get vaccinated. I love them for that.

QFT: "THE CHILDREN'S CLINIC OF NASHVILLE IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR FAMILIES THROUGH A STRONG PRO-VACCINATION POLICY. WE WILL HAPPILY DISCUSS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT VACCINES, BUT REQUIRE ALL PATIENTS BE VACCINATED ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS RECOMMENDED SCHEDULE."
 
2011-10-03 11:37:32 AM

Peki: SiON42X: New Age Science: I got the flu vaccine once and then got the flu; the last thing I want is to give my kid the MMR shot, they'll get measles, mumps, rubella, AND mercury toxicity AND autism all the at the same time!

As someone who did actually get the measles from the MMR shot, I'm getting a kick. . .

/mom ended up firing the pediatrician because he wouldn't listen to her, patted her on her head, and told her to quit reading so many Dr. Spock books


Most everyone gets a mild rash and febrile illness 10-14 days after getting the MMR vaccine, it just means your immune system is working.
 
2011-10-03 11:37:41 AM

mr_a: I wonder if there will ever be a vaccine for stupidity?


It's called Darwin. It just takes longer.
 
2011-10-03 11:52:04 AM

SchlingFocker: Peki: /mom ended up firing the pediatrician

You don't fire a doctor.

They aren't your employee. They're there to provide you with advice and treatment based on the best scientific evidence to date.


Sure you do. They provide a service, you pay for said service. If you don't like how you operate, you find another Dr. You can fire them just as much as you fire a gardener.
 
2011-10-03 11:54:43 AM

R.A.Danny: SchlingFocker: Peki: /mom ended up firing the pediatrician

You don't fire a doctor.

They aren't your employee. They're there to provide you with advice and treatment based on the best scientific evidence to date.

Sure you do. They provide a service, you pay for said service. If you don't like how you operate, you find another Dr. You can fire them just as much as you fire a gardener.


Sort of like you fire your coffee shop, supermarket, dry cleaner, ...?
 
2011-10-03 11:57:13 AM
and told her to quit reading so many Dr. Spock books,

Spock was a moron and wrong. She shouldn't be reading them. They're garbage that hurts kids.
 
2011-10-03 11:58:27 AM
Parents have the right to make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

What's interesting about this is not just how facefarkingly dumb it is, but that you don't even believe it yourself.
 
2011-10-03 11:59:07 AM

EvilEgg: Sort of like you fire your coffee shop, supermarket, dry cleaner, ...?


Yeah, saying that you "fired your doctor" is a loaded phrase intended to convey an amount of power that never existed.

You can fire an employee. A doctor is not your employee.
 
2011-10-03 12:02:00 PM

SchlingFocker: EvilEgg: Sort of like you fire your coffee shop, supermarket, dry cleaner, ...?

Yeah, saying that you "fired your doctor" is a loaded phrase intended to convey an amount of power that never existed.

You can fire an employee. A doctor is not your employee.


You can take more money away from a Dr. than you can from the guy mowing your lawn.
 
2011-10-03 12:04:58 PM

R.A.Danny: You can take more money away from a Dr. than you can from the guy mowing your lawn.


Yeah, but you can't fire him. He's not your employee.

You can't tell him what to do, and he can't tell you what to do. It's not an employer/employee relationship.
 
2011-10-03 12:07:00 PM

SchlingFocker: You can't tell him what to do, and he can't tell you what to do. It's not an employer/employee relationship.


I can't tell any of my employees to do anything I don't want them to, but I can get rid of them if they don't see things my way.

Relationship terminated = Fired.
 
2011-10-03 12:08:51 PM

R.A.Danny: Relationship terminated = Fired.


So, when your gardener decides to end your gardening relationship, he's firing you??
 
2011-10-03 12:10:56 PM

SchlingFocker: R.A.Danny: Relationship terminated = Fired.

So, when your gardener decides to end your gardening relationship, he's firing you??


No, he is quitting, the money flows from firer to firee.
 
2011-10-03 12:20:02 PM

SchlingFocker: You can't tell him what to do, and he can't tell you what to do. It's not an employer/employee relationship.


Yes, operate on my knee, no do not operate, I need pain killers. What, no? I'll find someone else to prescribe them, and someone will because they want my money. If you aren't your Dr.'s boss, you're likely to become their victim.
 
2011-10-03 12:23:49 PM

R.A.Danny: If you aren't your Dr.'s boss, you're likely to become their victim.


Now you're just being a retard.
 
2011-10-03 12:24:45 PM

SchlingFocker: R.A.Danny: You can take more money away from a Dr. than you can from the guy mowing your lawn.

Yeah, but you can't fire him. He's not your employee.

You can't tell him what to do, and he can't tell you what to do. It's not an employer/employee relationship.


Really? So I can't refuse treatment, ask for a specific test if I think the doctor is missing something, or go get a second opinion? I have to do exactly what my doctor says every time?

I think you have your power dynamics a bit backwards.
 
2011-10-03 12:25:53 PM
At this point it's less about right or wrong and more about ridiculous pedantic bullshiat.
 
2011-10-03 12:28:06 PM

Peki: Really? So I can't refuse treatment, ask for a specific test if I think the doctor is missing something, or go get a second opinion? I have to do exactly what my doctor says every time?


You can certainly ask for a test or get a second opinion. You don't have to do exactly what your doctor says.

That's why I said that you can't tell him what to do, and he can't tell you what to do.

You can both make recommendations to each other and either listen to, or disregard, the recommendations.
 
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