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(NPR)   Okay, you cut my grass and I'll give your mom a pacemaker. Deal?   (npr.org) divider line 47
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2011-09-29 05:19:44 PM
4 chickens for a broken arm?
 
2011-09-29 05:21:16 PM
Sounds good to me.
This has been going on for many, many years.
 
2011-09-29 05:23:16 PM
What?! These people are getting healthcare for raking leaves?

They always make me eat out all the hot nurses! This is bullshiat.
 
2011-09-29 05:23:37 PM
I hope they're declaring this on their 1040.
 
2011-09-29 05:24:22 PM
I wonder how the doctors' malpractice insurers feel about this.
 
2011-09-29 05:25:23 PM
everything old will be new again.......
after the coming economic apocalypse.
 
2011-09-29 05:25:44 PM
How much raking for a case of beer?
 
2011-09-29 05:26:15 PM
b b b but, how do we tax them?
 
2011-09-29 05:26:19 PM

cgraves67: I wonder how the doctors' malpractice insurers feel about this.


yeah they will want their grass mowed too.
 
2011-09-29 05:29:01 PM
As a "struggling artist" I am surprised that is the only thing she has trouble paying for . Artist as an occupation-really????
 
2011-09-29 05:30:11 PM
What is it with struggling artists getting interviewed on NPR? Where do they find these people so consistently?
 
2011-09-29 05:30:34 PM
I checked Urban Dictionary but I still don't know what kind of depraved sex act a "pacemaker" is. Help?
 
2011-09-29 05:31:38 PM

Dr. Nick Riviera: What is it with struggling artists getting interviewed on NPR? Where do they find these people so consistently?


They fall down...a lot.
 
2011-09-29 05:32:46 PM

poot_rootbeer: I checked Urban Dictionary but I still don't know what kind of depraved sex act a "pacemaker" is. Help?


I believe it's a device. you might want to try farkmachines.com
 
2011-09-29 05:33:40 PM

hasty ambush: As a "struggling artist" I am surprised that is the only thing she has trouble paying for . Artist as an occupation-really????


Your participle is dangling.
 
2011-09-29 05:34:16 PM
Doesn't the IRS require you to file bartered goods/services as income?
 
2011-09-29 05:37:53 PM

Shadi: Doesn't the IRS require you to file bartered goods/services as income?


Yes - now show me who actually does that.
 
2011-09-29 05:38:12 PM
$70 an hour for raking leaves? Sign me up!
 
2011-09-29 05:38:12 PM

Shadi: Doesn't the IRS require you to file bartered goods/services as income?


Answered my own question:
Bartering occurs when you exchange goods or services without exchanging money. An example of bartering is a plumber doing repair work for a dentist in exchange for dental services. The fair market value of goods and services received in exchange for goods or services you provide must be included in income in the year received.

IRS Website (new window)
 
2011-09-29 05:38:49 PM
This is very cool. I'm glad that it's being done SOMEWHERE. It helps the community AND those that need health care.
 
2011-09-29 05:45:47 PM
On one hand, I'm thinking "Well, I suppose this is a way to get healthcare to those who couldn't normally afford it". On the other hand, I'm thinking "Why have we been reduced to this?"
 
2011-09-29 05:46:06 PM

mama2tnt: Shadi: Doesn't the IRS require you to file bartered goods/services as income?

Yes - now show me who actually does that.


It's reported to the IRS on Form 1099B.
 
2011-09-29 05:47:01 PM
Seriously though, bartering is not a solution to the nations health care problem.

Hobodeluxe: poot_rootbeer: I checked Urban Dictionary but I still don't know what kind of depraved sex act a "pacemaker" is. Help?

I believe it's a device. you might want to try farkmachines.com


Presumably it's the speed control for a farksaw Link (new window)
 
2011-09-29 05:51:24 PM

Shadi: Shadi: Doesn't the IRS require you to file bartered goods/services as income?

Answered my own question:
Bartering occurs when you exchange goods or services without exchanging money. An example of bartering is a plumber doing repair work for a dentist in exchange for dental services. The fair market value of goods and services received in exchange for goods or services you provide must be included in income in the year received.

IRS Website (new window)



I it's pretty funny that the IRS had to address this question

Question: My child was stillborn. He died right before he was delivered. Can I claim my child?

Answer: You cannot claim a dependency exemption for a stillborn child.
(new window)
 
2011-09-29 05:52:03 PM
I bet it's hard to figure what what is a fair trade though. I bet I could think up a numbering system that would place a value -- a "cost" if you will -- on each service. and then we could use little slips of paper to keep track of the goods and services you have given out. I think I will call these little slips of paper "Bollars" .... yeah, that sounds good. I could then develop some a sort of "Bonetary System" then we could set up huge buildings, which I will call "Manks" that would store these bollars and lend them out to people for a profit.

We could base our whole society off this! It's freakin' genius!!! Revolutionary!
 
2011-09-29 05:56:12 PM
I've been reading about time banks for a while now, they seem really popular up in the NE/Maine region. I think it's a great way of doing business in these tough times. Of course someone might call it socialism/communism since an hour with a doctor is supposedly worth more than an hour with ditchdigger, but does anyone really want to dig ditches/empty portapotties/child daycare/garbageman/etc?

If you make me a still, I'll make you some liquor. Now how much ore needs to be mined to make the copper necessary?
 
2011-09-29 05:56:50 PM
It's pathetic that a first world country has to resort to stone age systems because it's economy is farked up by greedy arseholes. Still, this is very nice of the hospitals and doctors. We still need universal health care.
 
2011-09-29 06:02:40 PM
www.michaelkeatoncentral.com

Challenge Accepted!
 
2011-09-29 06:04:50 PM
I think the IRS would object to this. How do they pillage their share of yardwork?
 
2011-09-29 06:07:47 PM
www.blogcdn.com

One Pacemaker, coming [chortle] right up!
 
2011-09-29 06:09:23 PM
hitlersbrain
It's pathetic that a first world country has to resort to stone age systems because it's economy is farked up by greedy arseholes. Still, this is very nice of the hospitals and doctors. We still need universal health care.

Universal Healthcare starts with people being universally healthy. And that's not something that you're going to ever get. Unhealthy people spend money on the foods that make and keep them unhealthy. Then they spend money on all of the niche medicines and treatments needed to stabilize them and get them healthy without treating the underlying problems. And that is never going to happen.

If you get a chance, check out the film Koyaanisqatsi, if nothing else just to simply view the stock footage of crowds of people in New York (40 minutes in) and Las Vegas (1 hour, 10 min.). You'll notice of much thinner and healthier they look, even when stressed.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that something is wrong. (new window)
 
2011-09-29 06:10:33 PM

hitlersbrain: It's pathetic that a first world country has to resort to stone age systems because it's economy is farked up by greedy arseholes. Still, this is very nice of the hospitals and doctors. We still need universal health care.


Socialist!!!
 
2011-09-29 06:12:20 PM
This is cool but not sustainable as medical technology can never be developed through a barter system. This is more pro bono. What we need besides a working ecconomy is universal health care. It should be a basic human right not something to be fought for. We need more Canadian / European thinking in our diet (and they need a lot less of us in theirs).

Still, as I said, this is cool. (Good news is good, who would have guessed?)
 
2011-09-29 06:14:12 PM
Will fix your computer for sex. (Females only, please)
 
2011-09-29 06:19:13 PM
How come a ten year old computer is obsolete because of the progress of technology, but that same progress means we still have to use centuries-old models of economics and society?
/Where is my leisure society-society of plenty?
 
2011-09-29 06:27:28 PM

JBangworthy: How do they pillage their share of yardwork?


that person would have to get a "real" job earning US currency to pay the IRS for their bartered stuff.
 
2011-09-29 06:34:03 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: How come a ten year old computer is obsolete because of the progress of technology, but that same progress means we still have to use centuries-old models of economics and society?
/Where is my leisure society-society of plenty?


I had the very same thought when my computer (8ish years old - top of the line from that era) just gave up the ghost.
 
2011-09-29 06:42:06 PM
i291.photobucket.com

What about a new leather jacket?
 
2011-09-29 07:09:56 PM
CPR now stands for Chicken Por Rhinoplasty.
 
2011-09-29 07:27:53 PM
Essentially, the capitalist system has failed so completely people have to resort to barter.

yay.
 
2011-09-29 07:35:09 PM

Kanemano: 4 chickens for a broken arm?


1.bp.blogspot.com

Sounds like the Walnut Grove healthcare plan.

/♫old dan tucker was a fine old man...♫
 
2011-09-29 07:53:26 PM
This is great and pathetic at the same time.

This is not the Amerika I was raised in.

This is the sort of thing I was told happened in Communist China.

I suppose it's palatable because our leaders told us to do massive business with Communist China.

Now the Communist Chinese are owning businesses and we are trading our labor for a pittance.

So sad but expected. I mean it's a free market economy right? I am so tired of being beaten, no wonder when people die they heave a large sigh. it's because they are done being screwed.

Still suffering from Reganomics I guess
 
2011-09-29 11:42:47 PM

Dr. Nick Riviera: What is it with struggling artists getting interviewed on NPR? Where do they find these people so consistently?


People tend to group with like-minded people. NPR interviews a lot of struggling artists. Fox interviews a lot of sociopathic assholes.
 
2011-09-29 11:45:00 PM

Marcintosh: This is great and pathetic at the same time.

This is great and pathetic at the same time.

This is not the Amerika I was raised in.

This is the sort of thing I was told happened in Communist China.



...and the winner in today's installment of "World's Most Retarded Haiku" goes to Marcintosh!
 
2011-09-30 02:35:07 AM
About farking time. After looking at line item charges for a recent medical procedure and not given any idea what it would cost I would love to charge him for mowing his lawn.

Lawn Mower 6 units --------- $60,000.00

Petroleum products ---------- $1,175.00

Weedeater string 12 units $2,400.00

Water -- 5 units $5,000.00

Soil PH testing

Measuring grass height

etc. etc ..

/ could have done a better job
// not feeling creative this morning
 
2011-09-30 12:55:31 PM
While I was growing up, my father traded machinist time for us kids to get dental work.

(He made some modifications/improvements to their dentistry chairs)
 
2011-09-30 02:05:13 PM

BigLuca: I bet it's hard to figure what what is a fair trade though. I bet I could think up a numbering system that would place a value -- a "cost" if you will -- on each service. and then we could use little slips of paper to keep track of the goods and services you have given out. I think I will call these little slips of paper "Bollars" .... yeah, that sounds good. I could then develop some a sort of "Bonetary System" then we could set up huge buildings, which I will call "Manks" that would store these bollars and lend them out to people for a profit.

We could base our whole society off this! It's freakin' genius!!! Revolutionary!


We tried this already. It didn't work. Once we put all the Bollars in the Manks they didn't come back out again. Something about the huge buildings being too huge. I didn't really follow the whole story, I was too busy digging ditches for healthcare.
 
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