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(Huffington Post)   Same-sex couples in civil partnerships are less likely to divorce than straight married couples. Probably due to state laws defining divorce as between one man and one woman   (huffingtonpost.co.uk) divider line 100
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2011-09-23 08:19:05 AM
We're also way less likely to get abortions. I just don't understand why the religious right doesn't love us.
 
2011-09-23 08:55:29 AM
kid_icarus: We're also way less likely to get abortions. I just don't understand why the religious right doesn't love us.

They don't love you because they secretly... are you. (and are extremely envious that you can be who you are freely)
 
2011-09-23 09:03:03 AM
Couldn't care less if every same-sex union ends in divorce.

It has nothing to do with giving everyone the right to fark up their lives equally.
 
2011-09-23 09:13:12 AM
Sanctity of Divorce!
 
2011-09-23 09:17:18 AM
Well. Sometimes one man and two women. Or two men and a woman.
 
2011-09-23 09:26:22 AM
I love how subby mentions state laws, but the article is from Britain.

Geography fail.
 
2011-09-23 10:24:47 AM
With same-sex marriage, when the luster wears off, you are simply left with a buddy to hang out with.
 
2011-09-23 10:25:50 AM
Honestly, this is because when you're LG or Q and sometimes B, you don't even think about settling down until your 30s. So there's many fewer "Oh sh*t, I'm 21 and knocked up, put a ring on it" or "Oh sh*t, I'm 25 and all my friends are getting married, better have my bachelorette party now" unions that are... less likely to last a lifetime. There are no deeply rooted social norms favouring marriage for queer people until they are much older on average than heterosexuals, for various reasons. And that means the people who do get married tend to be much more serious about it.

The way I think of it, I'm like, "Hmm, marriage? Maybe when I'm in my 30s and really want to settle down. But maybe not, because it's a heterosexual institution that I'm not entirely comfortable with."
 
2011-09-23 11:02:14 AM
Peki: I love how subby mentions state laws, but the article is from Britain.

Geography fail.


Nope. Subby was mocking the states with the information from the study. He/She/It was not actually saying there was a causative link. As such, as long as we consider the populations in Briton and the US similar, the study applies regardless of where it was conducted.
 
2011-09-23 11:02:29 AM
serial_crusher: Sanctity of Divorce!

and we're done here, folks
 
2011-09-23 11:02:43 AM
Great we gave them marriage now they want divirce!!! Its all part of their cunning plan. Give an inch thrust a mile.
 
2011-09-23 11:03:03 AM
Lost Thought 00: With same-sex marriage, when the luster wears off, you are simply left with a buddy to hang out with.

This is pretty much what I was thinking.
 
2011-09-23 11:05:42 AM
Since the link is farked, I'll assume same-sex couples still have sex.
 
2011-09-23 11:06:12 AM
Everyone deserves the chance to plan two weddings and pretend the first one didn't count.
 
2011-09-23 11:07:25 AM
Lost Thought 00: With same-sex marriage, when the luster wears off, you are simply left with a buddy to hang out with.

As opposed to hanging out with someone with whom the areas of incompatibility are far more numerous?

/and genetic
//can't forget genetic
 
2011-09-23 11:07:31 AM
Wow, a whopping four years of data, and from England and Wales too. Give them a some time to sober up and run the stats again.
 
2011-09-23 11:08:28 AM
Cletus C.: Since the link is farked, I'll assume same-sex couples still have sex.

LESBIAN BED DEATH.

in other words... not as much as you might think.
 
2011-09-23 11:08:47 AM
bighairyguy: Wow, a whopping four years of data, and from England and Wales too. Give them a some time to sober up and run the stats again.

Where's your data? Oh wait, you don't have any.
 
2011-09-23 11:09:01 AM
Peki: I love how subby mentions state laws, but the article is from Britain.

To be fair, from what I've read, the same is true in the United States. Also, the blue states that want/have legalized gay marriage have massively lower divorce rates than the hyper conservative states that wave around the 'Sanctity of Marriage' card.

But that shouldn't really surprise anyone.
 
2011-09-23 11:09:03 AM
Damn these liberals, attacking our time-honored traditions! Do we need to have a Defense of Divorce Act?
 
2011-09-23 11:09:29 AM
Kind of makes sense. Two gay men or two lesbians are far more similar to their partners than a heterosexual man and a heterosexual woman.
 
2011-09-23 11:11:08 AM
Lost Thought 00: With same-sex marriage, when the luster wears off, you are simply left with a buddy to hang out with.

Whether you're gay or straight, you married the wrong person if you don't enjoy spending most of your time with them, "luster" or not. People need to cultivate common interests more, in my opinion. And it's not impossible to do that with someone of the opposite sex. It's just that a lot of people aren't used to it, for some reason, and live these weird separate lives from their spouses.
 
2011-09-23 11:11:25 AM
bobbette: The way I think of it, I'm like, "Hmm, marriage? Maybe when I'm in my 30s and really want to settle down. But maybe not, because it's a heterosexual institution that I'm not entirely comfortable with."

Meh. For my wife and I, it was "Hey we're young and fertile and we're not going to be young and fertile forever."
 
2011-09-23 11:17:29 AM
No kids. Mystery solved.
 
2011-09-23 11:18:31 AM
I think it's because same-sex couples are more likely to tolerate/accept/enjoy "infidelity".
 
2011-09-23 11:19:18 AM
bighairyguy: Wow, a whopping four years of data, and from England and Wales too. Give them a some time to sober up and run the stats again.

Presumably also the" early adopters" would have been the most enthusiastic and dedicated- the" we've been waiting 20 years for this right crowd.
 
2011-09-23 11:20:25 AM
Now that they're also considered "normal", what's next?
 
2011-09-23 11:20:55 AM
Same sex couples don't get forced into marriage because they had a kid.
 
2011-09-23 11:21:01 AM
When New York legalized gay marriage i told my folks it was time for me to move back home. After a few moments of their uncomfortable silence, I explained my plan to corner the market on gay divorces. Twice the incomes, significantly fewer kids, lots of assets. As a divorce attorney, what's not to like?
 
2011-09-23 11:22:20 AM
BunkyBrewman: kid_icarus: We're also way less likely to get abortions. I just don't understand why the religious right doesn't love us.

They don't love you because they secretly... are you. (and are extremely envious that you can be who you are freely)


So much this.
 
2011-09-23 11:22:53 AM
PonceAlyosha: bighairyguy: Wow, a whopping four years of data, and from England and Wales too. Give them a some time to sober up and run the stats again.

Where's your data? Oh wait, you don't have any.


The four years of data is from the article, the British Isles is just a big drunk tank, and drunk people make decisions they later regret. QED

/The only possible fallacy in my logic is that they probably won't sober up
 
2011-09-23 11:23:34 AM
bobbette: Honestly, this is because when you're LG or Q and sometimes B, you don't even think about settling down until your 30s. So there's many fewer "Oh sh*t, I'm 21 and knocked up, put a ring on it" or "Oh sh*t, I'm 25 and all my friends are getting married, better have my bachelorette party now" unions that are... less likely to last a lifetime. There are no deeply rooted social norms favouring marriage for queer people until they are much older on average than heterosexuals, for various reasons. And that means the people who do get married tend to be much more serious about it.

The way I think of it, I'm like, "Hmm, marriage? Maybe when I'm in my 30s and really want to settle down. But maybe not, because it's a heterosexual institution that I'm not entirely comfortable with."


This is the most likely explanation, in my opinion. The fact that there currently isn't much social pressure for LGBTQ people to get married at a young age just naturally selects for people who are more serious about it. And older. And age of first marriage (for women, especially) has been shown to be strongly correlated with successful, sustained marriages, among straight couples. So it's not surprising that the same would be true of gay couples. You simply tend to be more mature and stable in your late twenties or early thirties than in your early twenties or even teens, so just a few years makes a big difference. The age at which divorce rates drop off most steeply is about 25 in the studies I've read, so if few gays and lesbians are getting married before that age, that could explain it.

Another possibility is that there was a "glut" of older gay couples in longterm relationships who could suddenly get married when the law caught up to social practices. Those people would also likely have a lower divorce rate, because they were already in a stable relationship. So part of it could be due to the artificial suppression of couples who otherwise would have married long ago.
 
2011-09-23 11:29:01 AM
I'm just waiting for the eventual reality series "Gay Divorce Court".

You know it's going to be awesome.
 
2011-09-23 11:31:49 AM
gunga galunga: I'm just waiting for the eventual reality series "Gay Divorce Court".

You know it's going to be awesome.


This court is now faaabulous. Judge Kenneth presiding.
 
2011-09-23 11:32:52 AM
BurnShrike: gunga galunga: I'm just waiting for the eventual reality series "Gay Divorce Court".

You know it's going to be awesome.

This court is now faaabulous. Judge Kenneth presiding.


Who gets to keep the live in pool boy? Or should we just get another house next door and connect them to a little shack with two glory holes?
 
2011-09-23 11:33:26 AM
HailRobonia: I think it's because same-sex couples are more likely to tolerate/accept/enjoy "infidelity".

You don't know a whole lot of gay couples, do you?
 
2011-09-23 11:34:26 AM
markfara: HailRobonia: I think it's because same-sex couples are more likely to tolerate/accept/enjoy "infidelity".

You don't know a whole lot of gay couples, do you?


It's not infidelity if your husband is plowing the other end.
 
2011-09-23 11:34:55 AM
I would like to read that article but it's from a newspaper from a fictional town I'll pass .
 
2011-09-23 11:34:56 AM
Who gets all the Hummel figurines?
 
2011-09-23 11:38:16 AM
bighairyguy: /The only possible fallacy in my logic is that they probably won't sober up

The only logical fallacy in your argument is that at no time did you approach anything that could be considered logic.
 
2011-09-23 11:38:35 AM
Fano: bighairyguy: Wow, a whopping four years of data, and from England and Wales too. Give them a some time to sober up and run the stats again.

Presumably also the" early adopters" would have been the most enthusiastic and dedicated- the" we've been waiting 20 years for this right crowd.


A more accurate article headline would have contained the words "so far" on the end. I'm not doubting the stats or the analysis, but it remains to be seen how it will play out in the long run. Could be better, could be worse, could be the same.
 
2011-09-23 11:38:39 AM
AngryJailhouseFistfark: Who gets all the Hummel figurines?

Whomever Grandma gave them to in the will. What does that have to do with gay marriage?
 
2011-09-23 11:40:40 AM
RY28: I would like to read that article but it's from a newspaper from a fictional town I'll pass .

You do realize that the vast majority of HuffPo stories are wire stories, right? There's a handy featured called a "Byline" that reveals who is responsible for the article. If you see it's a columnist, commentator, HuffPo contributor, you can ignore. But if it's AP, it's the same exact version you'd see if Fox News ran that story.
 
2011-09-23 11:45:34 AM
Grizzly Bear: AngryJailhouseFistfark: Who gets all the Hummel figurines?

Whomever Grandma gave them to in the will. What does that have to do with gay marriage?


Nothing to do with marriage, but when the Ghey Mens make a divorce, someone's got to divvy up the Hummels.
 
2011-09-23 11:47:14 AM
Melissa Etheridge is fighting her ex right now over spousal support. Melissa claims they were never legally married, that the civil ceremony was not a binding marriage.
 
2011-09-23 11:48:17 AM
All the snarky comments aside (and I do have several)...

I suspect lower divorce rates amongst same-sex couples is a very expected trend. Top of the list is lower fiscal motivation... how the heck do you decide alimony?

Add in reduced rates of children and similar relationship stresses (until the book, Tops Are From Mars, Bottoms Are From... is published to let them know they shouldn't be getting along so well) and you have the recipe for far fewer divorces.

Apples to apples comparisons would scrap relationships less than 5 years long from stats, only compare childless to childless straight vs gay marriages and adoptive straight families vs adoptive gay families. I've never seen a straight marriage with adopted kids end in divorce (I'm sure it happens plenty, just a lot more infrequent than their we were dating and she got knocked up so we go married counterparts).

/not trolling
//seriously
 
2011-09-23 11:51:49 AM
AngryJailhouseFistfark: Grizzly Bear: AngryJailhouseFistfark: Who gets all the Hummel figurines?

Whomever Grandma gave them to in the will. What does that have to do with gay marriage?

Nothing to do with marriage, but when the Ghey Mens make a divorce, someone's got to divvy up the Hummels.


For some reason when I read that, I heard you lisping every word that ends in s.
 
2011-09-23 11:57:26 AM
AngryJailhouseFistfark: Grizzly Bear: AngryJailhouseFistfark: Who gets all the Hummel figurines?

Whomever Grandma gave them to in the will. What does that have to do with gay marriage?

Nothing to do with marriage, but when the Ghey Mens make a divorce, someone's got to divvy up the Hummels.


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"Hay, guys. What's going on in this thread?"
 
2011-09-23 11:58:22 AM
AaronB1138

Hey now, don't go and start interjecting rational thought into this thread. This is fark after all. ;-)

/That was my line of thinking as well.
 
2011-09-23 11:58:34 AM
Less alimony?
 
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