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2011-09-14 12:13:20 PM
Athiests like clipperships. Clipper ships sail in the ocean. Athiests like the ocean. The ocean has many athiest clipperships. Clipperships have many ropes.
 
2011-09-14 12:13:50 PM
What Internet Atheists remind me of. (new window)

/Atheist
//Farking HATES Internet Atheists
 
2011-09-14 12:13:51 PM
what article did subby read?
 
2011-09-14 12:14:16 PM

Headso: Atheists are hedonists

Is that bad?


I apologize for nothing.
theinfosphere.org
 
F42
2011-09-14 12:15:09 PM

Bevets: The ancient man approached God (or even the gods)


Bevets is just angry at Thor.

It's not that he doesn't believe that Thor causes the thunder, it's that he's angry at him, so he pretends that he doesn't believe in Him.
 
2011-09-14 12:15:41 PM
Atheists are like onions.
 
2011-09-14 12:16:34 PM

Void_Beavis: RexTalionis: Oh, boy, this again.

Aaand this.


But it drives a great deal of traffic to Fark and gives us all an opportunity to point and laugh at Bevets for his horrible quote mining.
 
2011-09-14 12:17:11 PM

Shazam999: Atheists are douches.


Your use of a personal attack does not constitute a logical argument.
 
2011-09-14 12:17:39 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: The most annoying atheists are the ones that are constantly remind people they are atheists as if they expect to win a prize for their brilliance in not believing in something. STFU already, everyone gets how smart you are. Why don't you prove it by going out and accomplishing something besides proclaiming your intelligence every time your socially inept brain tells you to.

/atheist embarrassed by a significant percentage of other atheists


Significant? no. Arguing an Idea of belief is something everyone does. It's more of the squeaky wheel here, you see a large group of atheists bashing other religions and cramming it down their throats, but there is a larger percentage that just goes on with their day-to-day activities.
 
2011-09-14 12:17:40 PM
First rule of atheism is "Drink! Feck!"

Oh wait, I'm not an atheist and that's a rule I have some days...
 
2011-09-14 12:17:42 PM

Bevets: Bevets:

Acting morally and having a philosophical justification for your actions are two separate issues.

Ennuipoet:

If atheist don't have a moral code but only a philosophical justification for not murdering doctors, blowing up abortion clinics, flying planes into buildings and stealing candy from babies, why are the prisons not full of atheists? If we are so amoral where are the atheist crimes of passion? Why are we not killing everyone that offends us?

You missed my point.


Hey, Euthyphro Bevets, what makes an action moral?
 
2011-09-14 12:18:05 PM

Bruxellensis: An omnipotent bearded sky fairy, who can do literally anything he wants to, decided that the best way to deal with things he doesn't like was to send his son on a suicide mission to save us from being what he made us in the first place.


Clarified that for you.
 
2011-09-14 12:18:10 PM
homebrewedtheology.com
 
2011-09-14 12:18:23 PM

Sticky Hands: Atheists are like onions.


delicious when diced in my mashed potatoes?
 
2011-09-14 12:18:32 PM

ApeShaft: The Swedish perspective:

I live in a country where around 80% are atheists. Most of my friends think of god in the same way that we think of santa claus. Sure, he might have a secret hideout on the north pole - but it seems pretty unlikely. So if you ask me why I don't belive in god I answer with a question in return: Why don't you belive in Santa?


And we all know in Sweeden, everything is better. :)
 
2011-09-14 12:19:03 PM

Sticky Hands: Atheists are like onions.


They make you cry as you peel away their layers, but are amazingly flavorful and sweet properly cooked ?
 
2011-09-14 12:19:41 PM

Shazam999: What's the one where you don't care if He's real or not?


Apathist.
 
2011-09-14 12:19:42 PM

Der Poopflinger: don't you have an ark to find or something bevets?


Nah, arks are Old And Busted:
Jeremiah 3:14-18: In those days, when your numbers have increased greatly in the land," declares the LORD, "people will no longer say, 'The ark of the covenant of the LORD.' It will never enter their minds or be remembered; it will not be missed, nor will another one be made.


Der Poopflinger: I get it, you feel compelled to try to "save" us.


Well, that's the New Hotness:
Matthew 28:16-20: Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
 
2011-09-14 12:19:48 PM
Madalyn Murray O'Hair is the most famous atheist of all time, so I don't know how Atheism is a white dude thing got to be a myth, unless they just made that up.
 
2011-09-14 12:19:54 PM

Sticky Hands: Atheists are like onions.


They're delicious when battered and fried?
 
2011-09-14 12:20:07 PM

St_Francis_P: All well and good, but talk your way out of this picture, Mr. Atheist:


Never heard of the other other white meat?
 
2011-09-14 12:20:34 PM

Sticky Hands: Atheists are like onions.


I like to shove dozens of them up my ass and run around singing "I feel pretty" at the top of my lungs?

/I am a very strange person.
 
2011-09-14 12:20:43 PM

Bevets: 5) Atheism is just a faith like any other.

We all believe, as an article of faith, that life evolved from dead matter on this planet. It is just that its complexity is so great, it is hard for us to imagine that it did. ~ Harold Urey


Wow, you are as clueless as they say. I cannot extend the courtesy of a doubt anymore.
 
2011-09-14 12:21:17 PM

IamSporko: Sticky Hands: Atheists are like onions.

They're delicious when battered and fried?


Who isn't?
 
2011-09-14 12:21:20 PM

Dimensio: I am curious, Bevets: you have been informed previously that "quote mining" is an intellectually dishonest practice. For what reason, then, do you persist in engagement of this intellectually dishonest practice? Additionally, for what reason should any statement issued by you be considered to be credible given your reliance upon intellectually dishonest practices?


He's also been told linking to his own damn site is not "evidence", no matter how much he thinks it is. Doesn't stop him though.
 
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2011-09-14 12:21:26 PM

deadcrickets: So you are telling me that since Christians would not otherwise act in a right manner and might murder me if it weren't for their God... that they are psychopaths?


This. If atheists can't be moral, then all theists are psychopaths.

You can't have it both ways bevets.
 
2011-09-14 12:22:08 PM

JPJ007: Bruxellensis: An omnipotent bearded sky fairy, who can do literally anything he wants to, decided that the best way to deal with things he doesn't like was to send his son on a suicide mission to save us from being what he made us in the first place.

Clarified that for you.


Makes perfect sense. So, can I just sign over my paycheck to this religion stuff?
 
2011-09-14 12:22:35 PM
A much better "ten myths about atheism" article (new window) (by Sam Harris, no less).
 
2011-09-14 12:23:02 PM

Barael's Blade: Void_Beavis: RexTalionis: Oh, boy, this again.

Aaand this.

But it drives a great deal of traffic to Fark and gives us all an opportunity to point and laugh at Bevets for his horrible quote mining.


Indeed.

/getting a kick out of these replies
//etc
 
2011-09-14 12:23:03 PM

IamSporko: Sticky Hands: Atheists are like onions.

They're delicious when battered and fried?


Or we make you cry if you cut us?
 
2011-09-14 12:23:33 PM

Dimensio: Shazam999: Atheists are douches.

Your use of a personal attack does not constitute a logical argument.


Are you a nice person? Do you care if people think you are? If you don't, then why do you care so much about what other people think?
 
2011-09-14 12:23:38 PM
Some 'Splainin' To Do 2011-09-14 11:09:58 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: 1) There are no atheists in foxholes.

That's not a myth, it's just an old saying intended to point out the horrors of war.

I don't much care about this saying, one way or the other, but I've talked to atheist veterans who absolutely farking hate it when people say that.


Count me in that group.
Hardest thing ever was to convince S1 to actually put "Atheist" on my dog tags instead of "No Religious Preference"
 
2011-09-14 12:24:03 PM
The only "problem" I have with Atheists is they spend too much time critizing Christianity and ignore Islam. I understand why though, if you talk crap about Islam they'll blow you up, if you talk crap about Christianity they'll usually just pray for you or leer at your unapprovingly.
 
2011-09-14 12:24:17 PM
Bevets must be close to level if he's looking for troll XP outside of the evolution threads.
 
2011-09-14 12:25:03 PM

A challenger appears: The only "problem" I have with Atheists is they spend too much time critizing Christianity and ignore Islam. I understand why though, if you talk crap about Islam they'll blow you up, if you talk crap about Christianity they'll usually just pray for you or leer at your unapprovingly.


Gee, sparky, maybe the atheists you talk to don't live in a society dominated by islam.
 
2011-09-14 12:25:18 PM

F42: Bevets: The ancient man approached God (or even the gods)

Bevets is just angry at Thor.

It's not that he doesn't believe that Thor causes the thunder, it's that he's angry at him, so he pretends that he doesn't believe in Him.


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2011-09-14 12:25:25 PM
Let's get this all out of the way:


Bald is a hair color.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Just because you can't see the purple unicorn in my living room doesn't prove it isn't there.
 
2011-09-14 12:25:58 PM

StaleCoffee: Bevets must be close to level if he's looking for troll XP outside of the evolution threads.


Read his posts. He equates science with atheism, so to him he isn't stepping outside of his usual haunts by coming to these threads.
 
2011-09-14 12:26:43 PM

A challenger appears: The only "problem" I have with Atheists is they spend too much time critizing Christianity and ignore Islam. I understand why though, if you talk crap about Islam they'll blow you up, if you talk crap about Christianity they'll usually just pray for you or leer at your unapprovingly.


That's mostly because, in the US at least, it's not the Muslims trying to legislate their morality or cripple science education.
 
2011-09-14 12:27:31 PM

Bevets: 2) Atheists are just angry with God. Atheists often point out the logical inconsistencies of many religious beliefs---such as the belief both that God is all-good and all-powerful, but he somehow also allows evil to exist---and believers use that to conclude that atheists are angry with God.

The ancient man approached God (or even the gods) as the accused person approaches his judge. For the modem man the roles are reversed. He is the judge: God is in the dock. He is quite a kindly judge: if God should have a reasonable defense for being the god who permits war, poverty, and disease, he is ready to listen to it. The trial may even end in God's acquittal. But the important thing is that man is on the bench and God in the dock. ~ C.S. Lewis

5) Atheism is just a faith like any other.

We all believe, as an article of faith, that life evolved from dead matter on this planet. It is just that its complexity is so great, it is hard for us to imagine that it did. ~ Harold Urey

6) Atheists don't have a moral code.

Acting morally and having a philosophical justification for your actions are two separate issues.


There's one little thing that drives most knowledgeable atheists up the wall. It just happens to be the case that the set of atheists closely intersects the set of far-left liberals and so-called "progressives." Not totally, to be sure, but still a very large percentage of overlap. Now there is, in fact, a well thought out philosophical justification for moral actions that has nothing to do with God or religion. The only problem with it is the person who thought it out gives far-left liberals and so-called "progressives" a case of the dry heaves: Ayn Rand

Just one more reason for libbie/proggie cognitive dissonance and for basement dwellers to reach for the Jergens in attempts to blot it out.
 
2011-09-14 12:27:58 PM
"I..." "am..." "a..." "moron..."
-Shakespere

Your arguments are invalid.
 
2011-09-14 12:28:09 PM
Amanda Marcotte co-writes the blog Pandagon. She is the author of It's a Jungle Out There: The Feminist Survival Guide to Politically Inhospitable Environments.

Ms. Marcotte is not an atheist. She just believes in particularly ridiculous supernatural things and regards them as non-supernatural.

/actual atheist
 
2011-09-14 12:28:17 PM
Many people who call themselves Atheists are actually Anti-theists.

Pretty much if you get a kick out of annoying theists and actually give 2 shiats what theists do you are an anti-theist, not an Atheist.

Anti-theists are to Atheists what Westboro Baptist type fundies are to Theists.
 
2011-09-14 12:28:42 PM

snuff3r: I got as far as "pleading for tolerance of atheists".

As an atheist i couldn't care less what you religious people believe - personally, i think you're all braindamaged to have not let go of the beliefs I had as a six year old. But in the course of my day, i couldn't give a rats ass about any of you and what you believe in. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be aware of it. I don't want you to force your beliefs on me or my kids. I want you to keep it to yourselves. Religion shouldn't play a part in politics, the office, the classroom and especially in regards to how the country is run.

If you step over that line, then I will make it clear where I stand. Religious people can call me rude, lacking in morals, etc, but honestly, i can't see past the shiat you're displaying far enough to allow me the ability to care what you think.

I don't need you to tolerate me, i need you to keep your personal beliefs to yourselves.


You're quite right. Let's junk all this religious dogma that keeps interfering with what we want to do. I personally feel we should get rid of all these religious laws that slop over from this whole God thing. I mean, really, "Thou shalt not kill?" That's the first one I'd get rid of. Democrats should be used as targets. Along with their wives, children and pets. Morality is a phoney, religious construct. I should be able to rape, torture and steal to my own satisfaction.

Atheists would be the first to agree. Right?

 
2011-09-14 12:28:45 PM

A challenger appears: The only "problem" I have with Atheists is they spend too much time critizing Christianity and ignore Islam. I understand why though, if you talk crap about Islam they'll blow you up, if you talk crap about Christianity they'll usually just pray for you or leer at your unapprovingly.


I suspect that's owing to you living in the US, where the oppressive religious movements are typically Christian, not Muslim (and suspect you'll find the same opposition to institutionalizing *any* religion from that crowd).

/not an atheist
 
2011-09-14 12:30:00 PM
The vast majority of atheists just don't give a crap about religion. They don't argue about it on the Internet, they don't try to convert anyone to their way of thinking and they say "Thank you" when someone wishes them a Merry Christmas or Happy Diwali.
 
2011-09-14 12:30:18 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: 1) There are no atheists in foxholes.

That's not a myth, it's just an old saying intended to point out the horrors of war.


Everyone in a foxhole is an atheist. People get in foxholes because they are afraid to die, and no "True Believer" would possibly fear death.
 
2011-09-14 12:30:36 PM
1.) There are no theists at funerals

/think about it
//it's just as true and false as it's corollary: no atheists in foxholes
 
2011-09-14 12:31:13 PM

bookman: Now there is, in fact, a well thought out philosophical justification for moral actions that has nothing to do with God or religion. The only problem with it is the person who thought it out gives far-left liberals and so-called "progressives" a case of the dry heaves: Ayn Rand


Except for the description "well thought out" and the implication that it's the only philosophical justification that has nothing to do with deities or dogma, you're right.
 
2011-09-14 12:31:22 PM

daxxenos: You're quite right. Let's junk all this religious dogma that keeps interfering with what we want to do. I personally feel we should get rid of all these religious laws that slop over from this whole God thing. I mean, really, "Thou shalt not kill?" That's the first one I'd get rid of. Democrats should be used as targets. Along with their wives, children and pets. Morality is a phoney, religious construct. I should be able to rape, torture and steal to my own satisfaction.


farkin hell you're dumb.
 
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