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(Metro Weekly)   Arch conservative Dick Cheney on gay marriage: "I certainly don't have any problem with it." Well, he would say...wait, what?   (metroweekly.com) divider line 109
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2011-09-13 07:31:07 PM
I don't think it has ever been a secret that his daughter is a lez.
 
2011-09-13 07:35:07 PM

uber humper: I don't think it has ever been a secret that his daughter is a lez.


Subby's been in the closet this whole time apparently.

OOOOH DOUBLE ENTENDRE
 
2011-09-13 07:35:55 PM
It's very simple. If Mary Cheney is in the audience, he is pro-gay-marriage.

If she's not around, he's against it.

This is why she is the most hated lesbian since Elanor Roosevelt - Because she believes what her father tells her, and tries to convince people that he means it.
 
2011-09-13 07:41:56 PM

uber humper: I don't think it has ever been a secret that his daughter is a lez.


And didn't his wife write lesbian porn.
 
2011-09-13 07:41:59 PM
Dick's daughter dislikes dick.
 
2011-09-13 07:42:12 PM
Cheney isn't a religious social conservative. He's a fark you got mine conservative. Those types cross occasionally but they aren't always that well in line. For voting purposes the fark you got mine people have spent a lot of time and money getting the idiot social religious types to support fark you got mine conservatism. Given that, it's not surprising when Cheney doesn't care about gay marriage because fark you, he's got his.
 
2011-09-13 07:42:18 PM
Cheney is an evil bastard who really should be in prison, but I can't fault him for this. He's been consistent about it since at least 2000.

The fact that he can't see that his claim that "Freedom means freedom for everybody" is in direct conflict with his claim that "Different states are gonna come to different conclusions" is due entirely to his neo-con cognitive dissonance. But subby, he hasn't changed his opinion in at least a decade, so this isn't a "what, what?" type of situation.

(Granted, it's a "don't you ever actually think about what you're saying, you horrid little turd?" situation, but not a "wait, what?" one.)
 
2011-09-13 07:52:12 PM
He's flipflopped on this issue countless times. Sometimes on the same day.

My theory above, wrt whether his daughter is listening, is the best explanation i can think of. He supported DOMA.
 
2011-09-13 08:00:40 PM
Fark Dick Cheney with a rusty dildo.

If he really supports equality for gay Americans, he should have spoken out when we were passing that farking DOMA abomination.
 
2011-09-13 08:21:07 PM

Asa Phelps: This is why she is the most hated lesbian since Elanor Roosevelt


Wait, Eleanor Roosevelt is hated? Why? I mean, if it's just a matter of being closeted--think of the times, the fact that she was high-profile even before she married FDR (since she was TR's niece and all)--I think that's forgivable. Is there some other offense I'm not aware of?
 
2011-09-13 08:26:09 PM

7of7: Cheney isn't a religious social conservative.


Exactly. He's never pretended to be, except when they came in handy for him.
 
2011-09-13 08:41:38 PM

Forty-Two: Asa Phelps: This is why she is the most hated lesbian since Elanor Roosevelt

Wait, Eleanor Roosevelt is hated? Why? I mean, if it's just a matter of being closeted--think of the times, the fact that she was high-profile even before she married FDR (since she was TR's niece and all)--I think that's forgivable. Is there some other offense I'm not aware of?


she was an outspoken woman who was not conservative or attractive of course she is hated by a certain segment of the population.
/Women should be at home with the babies unless they are telling other women to stay home with babies Link (new window) then it is okay to live on the other side of the Country from your husband
 
2011-09-13 09:20:06 PM

Asa Phelps: It's very simple. If Mary Cheney is in the audience, he is pro-gay-marriage.

If she's not around, he's against it.

This is why she is the most hated lesbian since Elanor Roosevelt - Because she believes what her father tells her, and tries to convince people that he means it.


Makes as much sense as anything else. I know he flips all the time, I just figured it depended on the audience. Who specifically was in the audience never occurred to me. I suppose I also figured he'd be willing to lie to his daughter's face to advance a Republican lie.
 
2011-09-13 09:37:44 PM
He can say whatever he wants now, he's not running for anything, he holds no office, he...why is anyone listening to anything he has to say again?
 
2011-09-13 09:44:04 PM
And once again, the very stupid 'wait, what' headline finisher.
 
2011-09-13 09:48:58 PM

spongeboob: she was an outspoken woman who was not conservative or attractive of course she is hated by a certain segment of the population.
/Women should be at home with the babies unless they are telling other women to stay home with babies


But the way Asa phrased it sounded as though Eleanor Roosevelt--like Liz Cheney--is disliked by lesbians and/or the gay community. If she's considered a lesbian Uncle Tom, I want to know why.
 
2011-09-13 10:23:42 PM

Organic Chemistry: And once again, the very stupid 'wait, what' headline finisher.


Now, now. It's popular with the Aspies.
 
2011-09-13 10:37:53 PM
Opposing gay marriage won't earn him any money, so he doesn't care.

He's clearly not opposed to it for moral reasons, for christsake.
 
2011-09-13 10:48:50 PM
Typical Republican hypocrite. Against something until it directly affects their life. Keep government away from our Medicare!
 
2011-09-13 10:52:34 PM

7of7: Cheney isn't a religious social conservative. He's a fark you got mine conservative. Those types cross occasionally but they aren't always that well in line. For voting purposes the fark you got mine people have spent a lot of time and money getting the idiot social religious types to support fark you got mine conservatism. Given that, it's not surprising when Cheney doesn't care about gay marriage because fark you, he's got his.


Excellent political analysis, sir.
 
2011-09-13 10:53:18 PM
he's a neocon. this is not at all surprising if you are not a mouth breather.
 
2011-09-13 10:56:42 PM
Can you blow gay marriage up? Can you shoot it? Is gay marriage going to cost rich people a lot of money? Then why the fark would Dick farking Cheney care about gay marriage?
 
2011-09-13 10:57:21 PM
neocons are not obsessed with who you f*ck. in fact, they often couldn't give much of a shiat less. they are obsessed with American foreign dominance.
 
2011-09-13 11:01:47 PM

7of7: Cheney isn't a religious social conservative. He's a fark you got mine conservative


Asa Phelps: He's flipflopped on this issue countless times. Sometimes on the same day.


I can see my bases are covered, here.
 
2011-09-13 11:02:57 PM
well, he has been known to give people a shot in the face, so it makes sense he'd see where the gays are coming from

/got nothing
 
2011-09-13 11:03:39 PM
I'll start caring about politicians who come out in favor of marriage equality when they do it while they are in office.
 
2011-09-13 11:05:07 PM

Moonvale: well, he has been known to give people a shot in the face, so it makes sense he'd see where the gays are coming from


Win.
 
2011-09-13 11:06:35 PM
He also shoots lawyers.

Why is this guy not running for president?
 
2011-09-13 11:07:16 PM

Ender's: OOOOH DOUBLE ENTENDRE


Hey, Girl! (nsfw language)
 
2011-09-13 11:07:47 PM
The truth of the matter is any conservative that claims to love the Constitution, would NOT have a problem with gay marriage. It's none of the government's damn business what happens with 2 consenting adults. The problem is that the GOP only spouts Constitution when it's convenient.
 
2011-09-13 11:08:17 PM
I don't give one iota of an infinitesimal damn what Cheney says until he turns himself over to the Hague.
 
2011-09-13 11:10:41 PM

Fjornir: 7of7: Cheney isn't a religious social conservative. He's a fark you got mine conservative. Those types cross occasionally but they aren't always that well in line. For voting purposes the fark you got mine people have spent a lot of time and money getting the idiot social religious types to support fark you got mine conservatism. Given that, it's not surprising when Cheney doesn't care about gay marriage because fark you, he's got his.

Excellent political analysis, sir.


I don't even think he's a fark you got mine type. I think he thinks that might be a nice perkl of being correct about everything all the time and all, but I doubt he's kicking back paul allen style on a gold plated commode in his 787 and lighting cuban cigars with hundred dolla bills. I don't think that's what drives him. I think he's absolutely obsessed with american hegemony and what he sees as *safety*, and to that end he'll make deals with tax cutters (as long as they don't cut the military), the bible thumpers. I don't think he cares if he gets taxed at 37% or 39% fi he takes a job with a salary, or if there is obamacare, or if gays can marry, I think he cares if the military is dominant, we continue being the tough kid on the block, and potential terrorists are locked up forever without trial.
 
2011-09-13 11:15:09 PM
And Nancy Reagan supports stem cell research. Republicans change their tune when something personally happens to them. News at 11.
 
2011-09-13 11:15:36 PM
he's not grover norquist. he's not pat robertson. he's not a libertarian. he's a foreign policy directed neocon. he told you he wanted to get iran and syria. that's what he thinks about at night. exercising military power when the opportunity presents itself. *safety* and u.s. hegemony. everything else is background noise for this guy.
 
2011-09-13 11:16:49 PM

spongeboob: uber humper: I don't think it has ever been a secret that his daughter is a lez.

And didn't his wife write lesbian porn.


Wouldn't you?
 
2011-09-13 11:17:17 PM

Forty-Two: Wait, Eleanor Roosevelt is hated? Why?


People forget that FDR, his family, and his administration, were absolutely HATED by the right-wingers of the day.

As was Kennedy. And Lincoln. And Jefferson.
 
2011-09-13 11:17:44 PM
Vice-President Cheney has never made a secret of his advocacy of whatever relationships people would like to have. Nor has Secretary George Schultz ever made a secret of his desire to legalize marijuana. But everyone treats it like some goddamn revelation every time its covered. Cheney is a classic neoconservative-like Giuliani and other neocons, they tend toward social liberalism alonside neoliberals.
 
2011-09-13 11:18:31 PM

Asa Phelps: It's very simple. If Mary Cheney is in the audience, he is pro-gay-marriage.

If she's not around, he's against it.

This is why she is the most hated lesbian since Elanor Roosevelt - Because she believes what her father tells her, and tries to convince people that he means it.


Huh? When did he speak out against it? I recall him always saying he was fine with it, but it was a state's rights issue.

/Damn you for making me defend Dick Cheney.
//Damn the Democrats for often being more conservative than Cheney on this issue too.
 
2011-09-13 11:22:07 PM

Sabyen91: And Nancy Reagan supports stem cell research. Republicans change their tune when something personally happens to them. News at 11.


and Laura Bush supports gay marriage and abortion. she's must have aborted an illicit baby from her lesbian lover.
you're about as deep as this bird bath in my backyard.

/sayben 91: *republicans are so lockstep, they can't ever think for themselves like me. I'm such a smart liberal.*
sayben 91: *look a republican acting different. selfish f*ck.*
 
2011-09-13 11:23:01 PM

relcec: Sabyen91: And Nancy Reagan supports stem cell research. Republicans change their tune when something personally happens to them. News at 11.

and Laura Bush supports gay marriage and abortion. she's must have aborted an illicit baby from her lesbian lover.
you're about as deep as this bird bath in my backyard.

/sayben 91: *republicans are so lockstep, they can't ever think for themselves like me. I'm such a smart liberal.*
sayben 91: *look a republican acting different. selfish f*ck.*


Yer cute.
 
2011-09-13 11:24:40 PM

relcec: and Laura Bush supports gay marriage and abortion. she's must have aborted an illicit baby from her lesbian lover.



Thanks for infroming me. Now that I know Republicans support the killing of straight babies, I will be voting Obama in 2012.
 
2011-09-13 11:30:16 PM
and btw, you don't get cancer and go *holy shiat, time to support stem cell research, that'll f*ckin cure me.* that's farking retarded. her tits gone.
what, she wants a new boob? so she's seen the light? gonna hit the town with some new tits?
 
2011-09-13 11:30:32 PM
I think some of you seem to have trouble grasping the concept of there being Republicans who are actually quite reasonable on this issue, and aren't so gung-ho with the socially conservative doctrine.
 
2011-09-13 11:31:53 PM

Sabyen91: relcec: Sabyen91: And Nancy Reagan supports stem cell research. Republicans change their tune when something personally happens to them. News at 11.

and Laura Bush supports gay marriage and abortion. she's must have aborted an illicit baby from her lesbian lover.
you're about as deep as this bird bath in my backyard.

/sayben 91: *republicans are so lockstep, they can't ever think for themselves like me. I'm such a smart liberal.*
sayben 91: *look a republican acting different. selfish f*ck.*

Yer cute.


And he's mad. Republicans don't like the truth.
 
2011-09-13 11:41:25 PM
 
2011-09-13 11:44:19 PM
Personally I believe the state should stop legally recognizing marriages. Let marriage be a social and religious construct and get the government out of the bedrooms.
 
2011-09-13 11:47:39 PM
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see that opposition to gay marriage is turning into a nail in the coffin the GOP is making for itself. Young people either don't care or are in strong support of it. Old people care and vote, but they will be dying off in the near future.

The GOP only uses socially divisive issues like homophobia, abortion rights, creationism, nationalism etc etc as tools to convince people to vote against their own economic interest. When those tools become dull or break the GOP will discard them as they end up being counterproductive to their primary mission.

Dick Cheney, for all his flaws, has plenty of brain cells to rub together and can see the writing on the wall.

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2011-09-13 11:48:14 PM
Oh how cute. Subby wishes Dick Cheney were President again so he could legalize gay marriage by edict.

Charming.
 
2011-09-13 11:48:25 PM

relcec: and btw, you don't get cancer and go *holy shiat, time to support stem cell research, that'll f*ckin cure me.* that's farking retarded. her tits gone.
what, she wants a new boob? so she's seen the light? gonna hit the town with some new tits?


She wanted stem cell research to go forward because there is promising research that shows that stem cells can help people with Alzheimer's. If you don't remember, that was the disease that caused her husband, Ronald Reagan, to go crazy beginning at the end of his second term as president, though some say there were signs of it before.


I will say that as much as I hate the bastard, Cheney did not waver on the issue of gay marriage. At no point has he ever given a flying fark. That was all Bush.
 
2011-09-13 11:59:07 PM

BroadbandGremlin: Personally I believe the state should stop legally recognizing marriages. Let marriage be a social and religious construct and get the government out of the bedrooms.


There's something to be said for tax relief for households trying to raise children.
 
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