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2011-09-08 01:06:48 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: //what about big fat girly girl with pink fingernails and a PhD in physics don't you understand?


eip
 
2011-09-08 01:09:15 PM  
Pointing out that a Republican statement is false makes me a communist.

Lobbyists (of my kind) just buy off politicians. (As a lobbyist for a non profit organization we are forbidden from giving any monetary gifts to politicians)

/usually just ignore them
 
2011-09-08 01:09:21 PM  

Bruxellensis: How in the world did you end up getting a gig working for the dark side?


It's a job; a lot of church musicians work in a faith other than their own. In the Methodist church where I grew up, our choir director was Lutheran and our accompanist was Catholic. Now, one of my fellow musicology grads plays organ for three Lutheran services per week--and then attends Mass for himself, since the other services didn't count.
 
2011-09-08 01:10:27 PM  

draypresct: I'm with LiberalConservative. I've never seen falsified data in my field (medical research). Where I work, our gold standard is two separate people analyzing the data to see if they get the same answer. People sometimes try to strain the results (e.g. shotgunning w/o Bonferroni correction), but altering the data would completely ruin your reputation if caught. Your co-workers, working with the same data, are actually pretty likely to catch you. No one would want to collaborate with you after an incident like that.


Same here -- no falsifying data that I've ever run into. It happens in the news but I've never run across it in person.

Our group is one of the world's foremost experts in our medical field, and we'd cut off our own feet before we falsified our research. We have people living and dying on what we end up publishing (and using) as treatment options, and as our research is published in major medical journals it would be incredibly irresponsible to falsify or "improve" on anything we do. We'll go without a publication rather than make something look better than it was.
 
2011-09-08 01:10:34 PM  
I think the biggest myth in any profession is that it only takes two minutes to do the job.

/you can wait while I fix your car, if you don't mind being here all day.
 
2011-09-08 01:11:46 PM  

littlelouie: "That's funny, you don't LOOK like an engineer"

What exactly are we supposed to look like?


funny, I am a molecular biologist. I have a shaved head and tattooes everywhere including a Genetics and Microbiology sleeve on my left arm. People look at me sometimes like, WTF are u doing here. I look at them like, because I am obviously much more intelligent than you.

 
2011-09-08 01:11:50 PM  

IBreakdance2NIN: (Not a profession, just what pays the bills until I finish school.)

1. That it's perfectly acceptable to tip with a Chick tract or some other religious pamphlet instead of money. Bible verses don't pay rent.

2. That I have anything to do with the way your food tastes. If you don't like it, I'm very sorry, and I will bend over backwards to help fix things. But if you're going to be a complete douchenozzle and blame me for your dish tasting bad... well, I don't know what to tell you. I didn't cook it. Now, I did make your cocktail (and damn tasty might I add), that's what I'll answer for.

3. That I was put on this green Earth to be a dog you kick around. I do my job with dignity, and it takes intelligence to do it well. Do not assume that your bartender or waitress is a moron you can talk down to - many of us are paying our way through school to eventually have an awesome career that doesn't involve cleaning up after you. What, were you raised in a barn? How did you get your food all over the table?

4. That since you're my customer, and I'm serving you, that you can sexually harass or grope me. I'm not interested in your sleazy, creepy ass. The manager is on his way over, and I won't hesitate to risk my job if it means I get to kick you in the crotch.


One of the three jobs I worked while going to school was waiter. It was a high end place at an upscale hotel. I always gave great service, and went out of my way to help the customers. Most of the customers were ok (still pretty bad tippers though) but we would have conventions come through that were horrible! One church denomination had their National convention there and their behavior still makes me shudder. Rude, Condescending, Entitled, Cheap, and Hypocritcal. That last bit requires an explanation. They wouldn't drink in public, but when they had a "hook up" in their room, they would order booze by the bottle. To top it off, they would often stiff you (a waiter is assumed to make 8% of sales in tips, and has to pay tax on that - so stiffing a waiter actually Costs them money!)

I quit that job mid convention (I still had 2 others and full time college). To this day, I am Very nice to waiters, and I tip really well. That job is Way harder than it looks.
 
2011-09-08 01:12:38 PM  
Forty-Two
...but my career plan is to be a musicologist. ....but I'm more interested in music history now, especially nineteenth-century England."


is the misconception that you will find a job?


sorry to be a dick, but can I have fries with that?

/good luck though
//feels bad but...enlighten me
 
2011-09-08 01:13:20 PM  
That software can be finished and fully debuged before ever being loaded on the hardware.
 
2011-09-08 01:13:58 PM  
treesloth: uggh... yup. It makes a sort of sense, since people seem to lump anything server-, web-, or development-related under an undifferentiated heading of "computers". They ask what I do. I tell them that I analyze server and datacenter operations, simulate the effects of changes on server performance, assess the results, etc. After a long, blank stare, "... so... you work with computers?" "Yes, I work with computers." "Oh, hey, my computer has been acting up..."

It's kind of annoying. Yes, I can fix your computer. No, I don't want to, because you're just going to go back to the same mindless, moronic behavior that caused the problem to begin with and cause the same problem again. Maybe I need to start quoting hourly rates...


My husband is a web developer and he has gotten to the point where he realizes that he is advanced enough in his field that people outside his field really have no idea what he does, so his catchall answer is "web developer." Recently I was telling someone what he does and they said, "You know, I've been having problems with my computer. Do you think he can fix it?" Of course he can, so I said, "Yes, but his rate for freelance work is $100/hour. Truthfully, you'd be better off finding a teenager to help you."
 
2011-09-08 01:15:02 PM  

Sticky Hands: That software can be finished and fully debuged before ever being loaded on the hardware.


Who thinks that?
 
2011-09-08 01:16:08 PM  

draypresct: I've never seen falsified data in my field (medical research).


It exists to be sure. Link (new window)

draypresct: but altering the data would completely ruin your reputation if caught


It's not just altering the data, there are many other types of dishonesty. Things like leaving important data out.

draypresct: No one would want to collaborate with you after an incident like that.


For me, I got into science because I wanted to contribute to our understanding. My goal in life is to have a paragraph in a general biology textbook (maybe even a diagram or figure?!) that I can point to and say that paragraph exists because of my work. Making up data would go completely against it. It'd be like wanting to become a M.D. to help save lives, become an M.D., join an E.R., realize saving lives is super tough and so you just kill the patient instead. It's not just like quitting, it's worse than not ever being there, it's actively misinforming our understanding. So if I made up data or results, what the hell would be the point of what I do? I sure as fark don't do this for the money.
 
2011-09-08 01:17:25 PM  
mcsiegs

I have my undergraduate in math and physics and my masters is an MSIS.

What always kills me is how people say they are so awesome at math. I want to tell them that the only numbers in a college math book are usually the page numbers. Take topology or Differential Equations, then tell me how good you are at math


i.imgur.com

So you are related to God then?
 
2011-09-08 01:18:00 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: littlelouie: "That's funny, you don't LOOK like an engineer"

What exactly are we supposed to look like?

Last time I checked, having a penis had no practical applications in the field of Mechanical Engineering. Well, I guess you could use it to calibrate your micrometer or something.

I get that too...people are usually surprised when they ask me what I do for a living.

/why yes, I've got a PhD
//what about big fat girly girl with pink fingernails and a PhD in physics don't you understand?


String, loop, both, or none?

oh, and I think I love you.
 
2011-09-08 01:18:00 PM  

Bruxellensis: Sticky Hands: That software can be finished and fully debuged before ever being loaded on the hardware.

Who thinks that?


Program managers, and the vendors who sell the pacakges that claim to do just that.
 
2011-09-08 01:19:29 PM  

Chemguy: I'm a chemist. Everyone thinks I blow stuff up for a living. I'm also a college prof. Everyone thinks I get kickbacks for adopting a text book. I'm also a realist. Nothing I say is going to change peoples minds.


Most chemists I know don't think about the book kickback thing. I think that's more a liberal arts thing where the professors do write their own books on hyperspecific topics.

Dare I ask what school? And are you guys hiring?
 
2011-09-08 01:20:56 PM  
That thermal neutrons are red.

/they're blue, actually.
 
2011-09-08 01:21:31 PM  

busy chillin': Forty-Two
...but my career plan is to be a musicologist. ....but I'm more interested in music history now, especially nineteenth-century England."


is the misconception that you will find a job?


Pretty much only in academia--most colleges need someone to teach music appreciation, and conservatories need people to teach history more in depth. I've also been writing program notes for the local orchestras, which isn't so much a career as freelance work. I specialize in 19th-century England (and Felix Mendelssohn), but it's not as though that's the only thing I know.
 
2011-09-08 01:21:36 PM  

Private_Citizen: One church denomination had their National convention there and their behavior still makes me shudder. Rude, Condescending, Entitled, Cheap, and Hypocritcal. That last bit requires an explanation. They wouldn't drink in public, but when they had a "hook up" in their room, they would order booze by the bottle. To top it off, they would often stiff you (a waiter is assumed to make 8% of sales in tips, and has to pay tax on that - so stiffing a waiter actually Costs them money!)


So much THIS. The church groups were often the absolute worst I've ever dealt with. In my first restaurant job, I waited tables at a small local cafe that everybody went to - kids I went to school with and their families, etc. One of the local ministers was an evangelical type, with a slutty stuck-up daughter, and rich as hell. (Those tithes bought them all very nice cars and clothes.) Treated me like dogshiat every time they came in. Awful.

And yes, stiffing your waiter is a chickenshiat thing to do - it really does cost them money. We get taxed on a fixed percentage of sales, whether or not we actually brought that amount in. Some restaurants take a tip-out percentage on top of that, to share with busboys and hostesses. If we get stiffed enough, that can REALLY f*ck with our finances when the rent's due.
 
2011-09-08 01:23:44 PM  

mcsiegs:
What always kills me is how people say they are so awesome at math. I want to tell them that the only numbers in a college math book are usually the page numbers. Take topology or Differential Equations, then tell me how good you are at math


Passed Differential Equations. Haven't touched that level of math in over 10 years.

Working as an accountant right now. I can not and will not do your taxes, that is not my specialty.

Before that I worked in mainframes. They are truly the trucks of the computing industry, and very few people understand the extent they are still used or what goes on in the big iron. How many mainframe programmers do you know can also IPL a system?
 
2011-09-08 01:24:13 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: I get that too...people are usually surprised when they ask me what I do for a living.

/why yes, I've got a PhD
//what about big fat girly girl with pink fingernails and a PhD in physics don't you understand?


Let them know that you're an Air Force officer... er, engineer, just like them. And just because your reproductive organs are on the inside instead of the outside, doesn't mean you can't handle whatever they can handle.

/hopefully not obscure
//not even a little

U8D1EyedSnake: "Yes, but his rate for freelance work is $100/hour. Truthfully, you'd be better off finding a teenager to help you."


Ooh, nice. I seriously think I'll start doing that.
 
2011-09-08 01:24:43 PM  
What about the myth that banking industry regulations are really quite simple?

t2.gstatic.com
 
2011-09-08 01:25:20 PM  
I am a female massage therapist. I don't even need to say.

/been practicing for 5 years
//still somehow see good in people
 
2011-09-08 01:25:21 PM  

Deucednuisance: Well, considering that there are, at present, exactly eight people in the world that do what I do for a living, there's not much in the way of myths about it.


Are you a wizard?
 
2011-09-08 01:26:42 PM  

Dani Daywalker: I am a female massage therapist. I don't even need to say.

/been practicing for 5 years
//still somehow see good in people


glad to see you've reached a happy ending.
 
2011-09-08 01:26:45 PM  
I don't have any power to approve or deny your projects. Please stop asking me to get things approved or denied. That's why you vote for your City Council and Mayor.

/local government employee
//repeat: I don't have any authority
 
2011-09-08 01:26:52 PM  

Bedstead Polisher: Deucednuisance: Well, considering that there are, at present, exactly eight people in the world that do what I do for a living, there's not much in the way of myths about it.


Are you a wizard?


I was gunna say tooth fairy.
 
2011-09-08 01:27:08 PM  
Yes, I know you've been speaking with *somebody* at my company about your problem. No, I don't know who it was or the minute details you were discussing with them. You will have to start over from the beginning since you did not take notes on your previous conversation.

No, I am not an expert on whatever third party device you are trying get our equipment to work with.

/tech support
 
2011-09-08 01:27:15 PM  
A lot of people in England think an Engineer is someone who fixed photocopiers.

Several times when I've corrected people on what I do their response has been "oh, you're the other type of engineer". NO YOU DUMB FARKS, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A FARKING CLUE ABOUT WHAT AN ENGINEER IS.

/ yet somehow they all get the difference between someone with a First Aid qualification and a Doctor.
 
2011-09-08 01:28:27 PM  

Dani Daywalker: I am a female massage therapist. I don't even need to say.

/been practicing for 5 years
//still somehow see good in people


Boy between you and the female teachers, this thread is ruining all of my favorite fantasies. If I see someone tell me nurses don't all wear slutty outfits while giving sponge baths and taking care of all of my needs, I think I'm gonna lose it.
 
2011-09-08 01:29:58 PM  
That physician assistant equals medical assistant.

/still a student, though.
 
2011-09-08 01:30:47 PM  

GoSurfing: Bedstead Polisher: Deucednuisance: Well, considering that there are, at present, exactly eight people in the world that do what I do for a living, there's not much in the way of myths about it.


Are you a wizard?

I was gunna say tooth fairy.


my vote was cleveland browns fan.
 
2011-09-08 01:34:52 PM  

Bruxellensis: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: littlelouie: "That's funny, you don't LOOK like an engineer"

What exactly are we supposed to look like?

Last time I checked, having a penis had no practical applications in the field of Mechanical Engineering. Well, I guess you could use it to calibrate your micrometer or something.

I get that too...people are usually surprised when they ask me what I do for a living.

/why yes, I've got a PhD
//what about big fat girly girl with pink fingernails and a PhD in physics don't you understand?

String, loop, both, or none?

oh, and I think I love you.


None. Condensed matter. One of the unwashed.

/coherence transfer and field propagation
 
2011-09-08 01:35:14 PM  
Day Job - 3d App Developer
Myth: That I can just miracle javascript and 3d to work together. I'm a modeler first and a programmer tenth. I gotta bang my head against it before it'll work.

Night Job1 - 3d Modeling instructor
Myth: That I can troubleshoot a 3dsMax install on a Mac, using that Windows shell. Or fix problems on the colleges network. I'm just as baffled as you are.

Night/Weekend Job2 - Freelance Multimedia artist for ad firms in the area
Myth: That I can 'art' on command. Sometimes I need a day to roll a project around in my head. I can't always give you an idea, technique, time-line and a quote 5 minutes after a pitch.

~ G
 
2011-09-08 01:35:35 PM  

Sommelier Myths:

That it isn't a "real job"
That we're all pretentious and condescending
That we know which wine you mean when you say "I had it once at a place in Arizona. It had a red label...and I think it started with a T..."
That I'll only suggest the most expensive bottle I can

Sommelier Truths:

I'll never get rich doing this. But I DO *and I repeat this often* get PAID to drink for a living
Sure, I'm a wine snob. In my PRIVATE life. Why shouldn't I be? Good grief, I've earned the right to be selective. But I won't ever impose this on a client
I'm passionate about what I do and I really just want YOU to enjoy the journey as much as I do
 
2011-09-08 01:35:49 PM  
That we're heartless, soul-less, desk monkeys who make up all the rules just so you can violate them and get canned.

I actually revealed my profession once on FARK and was promptly told by a FARKer that, among other things, I should kill myself. Yay.
 
2011-09-08 01:35:52 PM  
I had to stop reading, because most people didn;t say what their job was, and if i don;t know your job, your comments you are posting are useless.
 
2011-09-08 01:36:04 PM  

madpiper: Just curious, what is you day job that only 8 people in the world have the same occupation?


My Job Title is Compulsory Licensing Examiner. It's an obscure backwater of Copyright law. If you've ever done a Section 115 Notice of Intention and Statement of Account, chances are they crossed my desk. Other than that, you'd have to be a Cable or Satellite Television provider for me to work with you.

madpiper: You're not Jennifer Lopez' nipple-tweaker are you?


Pfft! That dude dreams of having my job!

Bruxellensis: How in the world did you end up getting a gig working for the dark side?


When you're a lyric Tenor and a crackerjack sight-reader, you can pretty much write your own ticket in any major city. I've worked for just about any denomination you could care to name, most don't care what you believe if you're quiet about it, show up (relatively) on-time and can read the charts. Started gigging in college and grad school. A Sunday morning gig is easy money when you're a student, except for fighting the hangovers.

Now that I'm 53, I'm getting a little tired of leaving the house at 7:30 on Sunday mornings, truth be told.
 
2011-09-08 01:36:14 PM  
Software engineer.

Most of the programmer stereotypes are absolutely true so there's no need to correct people.

One that irks me is the myth of sitting in "mom's basement" playing WoW. Software folks get paid enough to rent an apartment, it's not like working at the drive through. The part about being a WoW addict isn't far off though.

Another myth comes from software engineers themselves, when they tell friends and family they can't help with computer problems. Well actually they can, otherwise they wouldn't be very good at their jobs since software engineering is entirely a problem solving field. It's just that we as software engineers don't like doing unpaid work and we're probably not the most empathetic people in the world so maybe we don't care about your problem in the first place.

And lastly there's the myth that there are no women in this field. This one has a grain of truth to it, as the field is heavily dominated by men. However you do find quite a few women doing product management, QA, support, and other related fields. It's not like you walk in the doors of Google or Apple or whatever and it's 100% men. But maybe it's 75% men. In the past few years there's been a major push to change this.
 
2011-09-08 01:36:40 PM  
that doctors know everything about how body works and are all filthy rich.
 
2011-09-08 01:36:54 PM  
I am a software engineer...

Unfortunately this somehow qualifies me as an IT engineer, Network engineer, DB engineer, Hardware engineer, CSS guru, Tech Support, Sales, etc.

If it is done on a computer, I instantly must know exactly how to do it. If I say I can't or that is not in my job description, I am full of shait and are just lazy.
 
2011-09-08 01:36:56 PM  

Rhino_man: It's not radioactive at all. It produces radiation, but does not undergo radioactive decay. It has an "off" switch.


Along those same lines:

"I need to borrow this table for a minute so I can set my x-ray testing equipment on it."
"You're not going to make it radioactive are you?"
"Um... no. Radiation doesn't make things radioactive."*

*I've long since learned that appending "unless you irradiate with neutrons" to this is a bad idea unless teaching a introduction to nuclear engineering class at the college level (and even that got me a lot of blank stares from sophomores)
 
2011-09-08 01:38:00 PM  

BurnShrike: Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: sign_of_Zeta: There really aren't sexy librarians. There just aren't.

I know I'm late to the party, but you're on my List (tm) now, Zeta. We're fighting.

I've met sexy librarians. Not many, but they are definitely out there. I can think of two off the top of my head. Unfortunately they're both married.


Sexy Librarians. I know ten of them.
 
2011-09-08 01:38:13 PM  
Bruxellensis:

oh, and I think I love you.

It's only because I got the phud in A^2. You can probably tell. :)
 
2011-09-08 01:43:45 PM  

Pax Vert: that doctors know everything about how body works and are all filthy rich.


Funny, I think doctors don't know crap. Bunch of idiots that went to med school only shows you have the ability to finish and over medicate society. I was going to go to med school to then I decided I wanted to do more with my life than listen to peoples problems, grab a textbook and turn to page 74 for a clinical diagnosis.

Molecular Biology for life... Immunology FTW. Research scientists like myself are the only reason you doctors know anything anyway. Yes, you are overpaid.
 
2011-09-08 01:45:28 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Bruxellensis:

oh, and I think I love you.

It's only because I got the phud in A^2. You can probably tell. :)


Well, that, and it's nice to have some intelligent pillow talk.
 
2011-09-08 01:45:35 PM  

boredofedu: /also-we can fix your car by know the color and weird sound it's making...


So, are you Tom or Ray?
 
2011-09-08 01:45:53 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: ms_lara_croft: That I will have sex with anyone who asks.

/erotica and erotic romance writer as well as sex toys company copywriter

so...i don't have to ask?


You make a good point. They don't always ask, especially on Facebook. No, even when you don't ask... no. Then again, you can't ask if I don't release the ball gag. :)
 
2011-09-08 01:45:58 PM  
That females can be engineers?

When people ask what I do and I say 'I'm an engineer." they say 'OH MY GOD.' especially i they are female they say 'OH MY GOD. you must be SO. SMART.' The sad part for me is that all women I meet assume that I must be some kind of smart super-female if I'm an engineer, although any normal average man could be an engineer. Then they explain to me that they are bad at math!

They also think that I design bridges. Yes, engineers are only necessary to design bridges, everything else is just made up and stuck together.

If I say I'm a biological engineer they exclaim that I should develop better weapons for biological warfare. The moment I mention 'wastewater' they space out and try to get far, far away from me. D:
 
2011-09-08 01:46:40 PM  

mainsail: 1. We're NPR.
2. We get huge amounts of government money.


Work for a local affiliate?
 
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