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2011-09-05 05:00:30 PM  

somemoron: PizzaJedi81: Ecobuckeye: Wow, TNG had some crappy effects.

It was the late 80s, early 90s, what do you expect?

On a television show budget, no less. Though I did like the facial peel and subsequent head 'asplode.


Plus, it was an early season, before it got super-popular, so it's likely they only got one super-cool effect per season.
 
2011-09-05 05:13:19 PM  
Okay, 24, what the hell happened to Behrooz?

And don't give us that "there's a deleted scene on the DVD" mumbo-jumbo.


Mugato: That wasn't a dropped subplot. Mandy tried to assassinate Palmer and he lived but his hand was all farked up. End of sub plot. I do wish they would have brought back Mandy though.

That, and unlike what the article said, the show *did* make a reference to the failed assassination.

In the first episode of Season 3, Wayne Palmer tells David Palmer to emphasize in the debate that he publicly brought down the people responsible for the attack while "in a weakened state." It ties right into the political subplot of Palmer's reelection, although this fact doesn't really come into focus for the rest of the season.

So... yeah, it is addressed.
 
2011-09-05 05:19:00 PM  

Really I'm Black: Body-snatching-alien conspiracy, Star Trek: The Next Generation

best. episode. evar. god i love conspiracies.

im disappointed they didnt make this idea into a movie, let alone further tv episodes.

one rumour i heard was that this race was originally what the writers conceived to be what eventually became the borg. if so, i guess it can be forgiven, the borg were pretty cool.


NOT THE ORIGINAL CONSPIRACY
Heard this from somebody directly involved (in charge of) story planning on the show -- one of many disputes.

The original conspiracy was a group of Starfleet officers who believed the Prime Directive was deeply immoral and were willing to commit their lives to its reversal through any means, including insurrection.

Storyline vetoed because there are no politics in the Federation -- made into alien invaders instead.
 
2011-09-05 05:26:10 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Okay, 24, what the hell happened to Behrooz?

And don't give us that "there's a deleted scene on the DVD" mumbo-jumbo.


I want to second that question about Behrooz.

Also, completely agree with the 'Just look at the DVDs'

Doesn't count. So don't tell me 'Well lost explains everything in the special features!' doesn't count.
 
2011-09-05 05:31:03 PM  

PizzaJedi81: It was the late 80s, early 90s, what do you expect?

On a television show budget, no less. Though I did like the facial peel and subsequent head 'asplode.

Plus, it was an early season, before it got super-popular, so it's likely they only got one super-cool effect per season.


No, the FX in that episode were terrible even for 1988 TV. Stop motion was done better in the 1940s. But they got better.
 
2011-09-05 05:36:39 PM  
Tatsuma: I want to second that question about Behrooz.

Also, completely agree with the 'Just look at the DVDs'

Doesn't count. So don't tell me 'Well lost explains everything in the special features!' doesn't count.



Yeah, they were just a bit sloppy in the case of Behrooz. The resolution on the DVD deleted scene is interesting, but if it didn't happen on the small screen, it didn't happen.

And they never gave us any closure about what happened to John Keeler, either. They *kinda* gave us closure on what happened to Wayne Palmer with a newspaper prop in 24: Redemption. In both of these cases, though, the folks behind the show were a mite sloppy.

I'd also like to believe that Season 6 never happened, but that's something else about the sloppiness altogether.
 
2011-09-05 05:39:41 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Okay, 24, what the hell happened to Behrooz?

And don't give us that "there's a deleted scene on the DVD" mumbo-jumbo.


Behrooooz! Don't remember. I didn't start watching 24 until the 4th season so I watched 3 seasons on DVD in like a week and so they sort of run together. I do remember that his mom killed his cutie girlfriend.
 
2011-09-05 05:40:06 PM  

DamnYankees: UberDave: DamnYankees: Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.


Right before the killed the "head" alien, it was sending out a signal. The episode ended with them wonder where the signal went...suggesting that there may be more aliens on the way. I think they dumped a follow up this for the better Borg story line.

There may be more aliens on the way. Yes. May. There wasn't. Did you need a line in a future episode saying "well, thankfully nothing came of that"?


Well, given that some very powerful people in Starfleet were taken over by aliens, yeah.

Really, the reason for that episode is that the Ferrengi, who were intended to be the big bads of TNG, and were built up a bit to be on par with the Federation in technology and mysterious, dangerous adversaries to be feared, were more like cowardly little hunchbacked neanderthals when they were revealed in the first season. So, they had to come up with a new big bad. They tried to with this alien infestation plot. Of course, in next season they'd come up with something better instead: the Borg. That would, of course, not really kick off until the Season 3 finale.

The alien infestation plot would come back and be done well in DS9 with different aliens of course.
 
2011-09-05 05:40:59 PM  

OhioKnight: The original conspiracy was a group of Starfleet officers who believed the Prime Directive was deeply immoral and were willing to commit their lives to its reversal through any means, including insurrection.


That would have been cool. Sounds more like a DS9 story though.
 
2011-09-05 05:43:53 PM  

PizzaJedi81: Plus, it was an early season, before it got super-popular, so it's likely they only got one super-cool effect per season.


Like the giant black paint monster.
 
2011-09-05 05:44:13 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Yeah, they were just a bit sloppy in the case of Behrooz. The resolution on the DVD deleted scene is interesting, but if it didn't happen on the small screen, it didn't happen.


Oh most definitely. If it didn't air, it didn't happen.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: And they never gave us any closure about what happened to John Keeler, either. They *kinda* gave us closure on what happened to Wayne Palmer with a newspaper prop in 24: Redemption. In both of these cases, though, the folks behind the show were a mite sloppy.

I'd also like to believe that Season 6 never happened, but that's something else about the sloppiness altogether.


What on earth are you talking about? 24 ended with Jack riding in the sunset at the end of Season 5 after saving the country, thus earning well deserved rest for the decades to come.
 
2011-09-05 05:44:56 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Yeah, they were just a bit sloppy in the case of Behrooz. The resolution on the DVD deleted scene is interesting, but if it didn't happen on the small screen, it didn't happen


Heh. That's how I feel about Christopher Lee in LOTR.
 
2011-09-05 05:51:50 PM  
McMillan & Wife and invisible baby?
Mrs Mac - Sally is invisible (contract dispute) in season 5 with her absence explained as being with "the baby" who is also never seen. Only by season 6 is she "killed-off" in a plane crash.
 
2011-09-05 05:52:11 PM  
Just 21? Hell, I'm pretty sure 'Andromeda' had more than that all by itself.
 
2011-09-05 05:52:42 PM  
Mugato: Heh. That's how I feel about Christopher Lee in LOTR.

I'm not a Tolkien fanboy, mind you, but I'm still pissed about that because Christopher Lee deserved better than to make way for 30 minutes of battle scenes and 20 minutes of Liv Tyler staring into the camera.


Behrooooz! Don't remember. I didn't start watching 24 until the 4th season so I watched 3 seasons on DVD in like a week and so they sort of run together. I do remember that his mom killed his cutie girlfriend.

Ahhh, gotcha.

Well, in the show, Marwan's henchmen find Behrooz's tracker and take him for "reeducation."

That's the last that we "officially" see of him.


Tatsuma: What on earth are you talking about? 24 ended with Jack riding in the sunset at the end of Season 5 after saving the country, thus earning well deserved rest for the decades to come.

*snert*

I could live with that!
 
2011-09-05 05:53:49 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: Having a directional intelligence ruins it for you somehow?


Why do you suppose that's what I meant? I never eluded to how I believe they were made useless as a villain. Just because that's a common argument doesn't mean I believe that. I happen to like the idea of a queen (or the equivalent) directing the Collective.

What I meant is how the writers of Voyager made them into a useless villain.
 
2011-09-05 05:58:29 PM  
Disappearing character - Donna's little sister, Tina, in That 70's Show
 
2011-09-05 06:03:57 PM  

theorellior: Like the giant black paint monster.


What giant black paint monster? I recall no such monster. Nope. And Tasha Yar was...let's see...transfered to another ship. Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
2011-09-05 06:11:48 PM  

puckrock2000: Mad About You - whatever happened to Selby?
[sharetv.org image 225x169]

He suddenly morphed into Cousin Ira:
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And everyone forgets the most notorious dropped subplot from ST:TOS:
What the hell happened to Lt. Dave Bailey?
[trekmovie.com image 612x454]


He got addicted to tranya
 
2011-09-05 06:13:05 PM  

Tatsuma: Why was Darma still making food drops?


Because Desmond was technically working for Dharma while entering in the code in the Swan Station. The Lost crew kept entering in the code upon his leaving and so Dharma had no reason to think anything had gone wrong. So, they kept sending food.
 
2011-09-05 06:16:03 PM  
powet.tv
Hai guys! What's going on this thread?
 
2011-09-05 06:28:12 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: *snert*

I could live with that!


and that's how I choose to remember it
 
2011-09-05 06:28:30 PM  
have any of you said the little winslow girl? in that urkel show. she comes up often enough.
 
2011-09-05 06:33:44 PM  

Aladriel: Because Desmond was technically working for Dharma while entering in the code in the Swan Station. The Lost crew kept entering in the code upon his leaving and so Dharma had no reason to think anything had gone wrong. So, they kept sending food.


And when did we learn that exactly?
 
2011-09-05 06:36:01 PM  
Speaking of dropped plots... remember the cartoon Rocky & Bullwinkle? Remember how at the end of every show they would tell you to tune in next week for (wild plot synopsis)?

NEVER ONCE DID THEY COME THROUGH! NOT ONCE! AAARGGGGHHHHH!!!!

\I thought TV was showing all the episodes out of order and was all mad, because the (plot synopsis) sounded so much cooler than the show I just watched.
 
2011-09-05 06:43:38 PM  
Good article. I was very disappointed about the dropped body-snatching plotline of Star Trek: TNG. That looks like it had all kind of possibilities, it even gave me a couple bad dreams... and then just dissipated into ether. Sad.
 
2011-09-05 06:44:56 PM  

Tatsuma: Aladriel: Because Desmond was technically working for Dharma while entering in the code in the Swan Station. The Lost crew kept entering in the code upon his leaving and so Dharma had no reason to think anything had gone wrong. So, they kept sending food.

And when did we learn that exactly?


You really need everything spelled out for you, don't you.
 
2011-09-05 06:49:09 PM  

DamnYankees: You really need everything spelled out for you, don't you.


The whole Darma project had been wiped out for what, nearly 40 years? It was in the early 70s, right?

So we're supposed to believe that for 40 years, even after the Island went completely silent (as it certainly wasn't silent and communicated quite frequently with the outside world) except for the push of a button, the people outside of the Island just shrugged their shoulders and figured 'Welp, let's just keep on sending food all the time anyway'

That makes no sense at all.
 
2011-09-05 06:59:48 PM  

Tatsuma: The whole Darma project had been wiped out for what, nearly 40 years? It was in the early 70s, right?


Did you even watch the show? The Purge took place in the nineties, something like ten years before the show started.
 
2011-09-05 07:00:58 PM  

Tatsuma: The whole Darma project had been wiped out for what, nearly 40 years? It was in the early 70s, right?

So we're supposed to believe that for 40 years, even after the Island went completely silent (as it certainly wasn't silent and communicated quite frequently with the outside world) except for the push of a button, the people outside of the Island just shrugged their shoulders and figured 'Welp, let's just keep on sending food all the time anyway'

That makes no sense at all.


I can actually accept that given that it was a process kicked off every so often from another station. Keeping a working factory going for 40 years is much harder to believe, but still I can go with it. However once the station is gone, there is no reason for it.
 
2011-09-05 07:03:19 PM  

DamnYankees: Did you even watch the show? The Purge took place in the nineties, something like ten years before the show started.


The purge took place in 1992, twelve years before the crash of 815.
 
2011-09-05 07:06:55 PM  

DamnYankees: Did you even watch the show? The Purge took place in the nineties, something like ten years before the show started.


As I said, I really loved it until the 4th season, then after that it got more and more retarded and I've been trying hard to scrub that out of my mind.

Either way it's still 20 farking years without an answer and still sending food.
 
2011-09-05 07:11:33 PM  

mjbok: The purge took place in 1992, twelve years before the crash of 815.


40, 20, 12 years is irrelevant.


The fact that they kept on sending food for 12 years while the station went completely dark is retarded.
 
2011-09-05 07:12:41 PM  

Tatsuma: mjbok: The purge took place in 1992, twelve years before the crash of 815.

40, 20, 12 years is irrelevant.


The fact that they kept on sending food for 12 years while the station went completely dark is retarded.


The station never went dark. What are you talking about.
 
2011-09-05 07:24:53 PM  

DamnYankees: The station never went dark.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Going%20Dark
 
2011-09-05 07:33:30 PM  

Tatsuma: And when did we learn that exactly?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Hume
 
2011-09-05 07:53:33 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: Heh. That's how I feel about Christopher Lee in LOTR.

I'm not a Tolkien fanboy, mind you, but I'm still pissed about that because Christopher Lee deserved better than to make way for 30 minutes of battle scenes and 20 minutes of Liv Tyler staring into the camera.


Behrooooz! Don't remember. I didn't start watching 24 until the 4th season so I watched 3 seasons on DVD in like a week and so they sort of run together. I do remember that his mom killed his cutie girlfriend.

Ahhh, gotcha.

Well, in the show, Marwan's henchmen find Behrooz's tracker and take him for "reeducation."

That's the last that we "officially" see of him.


Tatsuma: What on earth are you talking about? 24 ended with Jack riding in the sunset at the end of Season 5 after saving the country, thus earning well deserved rest for the decades to come.

*snert*

I could live with that!


I like to think the last season was a hallucination brought on by the season 8 surgery side effects. In reality, Jack gets the happy ending he deserves.....by getting happy endings from Rack Bauer.
 
2011-09-05 07:54:10 PM  

TheManofPA: I like to think the last season was a hallucination brought on by the season 8 surgery side effects. In reality, Jack gets the happy ending he deserves.....by getting happy endings from Rack Bauer.


season 7 sorry
 
2011-09-05 08:12:30 PM  
I like the cut of your jib, TheManofPA.
 
2011-09-05 08:12:48 PM  

DamnYankees: The station never went dark. What are you talking about.


The fact that food drops were still being done after the destruction of the Flame is stupid.

//The New Man in Charge is either canon or not, you can't pick and choose.
 
2011-09-05 09:14:54 PM  

NeoCortex42: Stile4aly: I think the Shanti virus and Peter's girlfriend being stuck in the future were bigger dropped plots than the villains issue. The writers's strike really screwed Heroes over.


FTFY

After the first season, the show was heading downhill regardless of the strike. The strike didn't help, but the subsequent season showed that even without the strike the show was a lost cause. It had so much potential, but the writing was atrocious. I'm pretty sure most episode writers hadn't actually watched the show before based on how much character motivations and powers changes throughout each season.


Most of the fourth season was actually pretty decent, but the show had lost almost all of its viewers by then.

/4th season is even better if you ignore every scene dealing with Claire's personal issues
//But not the ratings-grab lesbo stuff
 
2011-09-05 09:15:46 PM  
Article completely fails. Without question, this is number one:

media.avclub.com
 
2011-09-05 09:17:57 PM  

eddievercetti: Heroes - Hyping up the whole villains event the whole summer...only to kill them off three episodes in. Shocker the writers strike farked it up or so they say.

Fringe - I forgot about the whole pattern thing. Maybe it was for the best though.


A handful of the villains finally got their day in the sun on the midseason finale, but that's nothing like what we had been promised.

/They fired and replaced the whole writing staff just before that episode was written, and it showed
 
2011-09-05 09:20:01 PM  
Well there were unresolved plots in Dr. Who.

For instance in Genesis of the Daleks when Tom Baker refuses to exterminate the Daleks at their inception, saying "I know that someday they will do a great good." Did they ever do anything good???

And then there were the Black & White Guardians. The White Guardian said there would be a third encounter with the Black Guardian, but Valentine Dyall died. What a bummer.

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Oh wait, he was in Terminus??? that makes 3 episodes. Never mind, what a bad geek am I!
 
2011-09-05 09:27:33 PM  
To be fair, that Skinner thing wasn't all that egregious for the Simpsons. How many times have Bart and Lisa finished the second and fourth grades? How many summer vacations. Beyond the character's names, one would assume that each episode or season resets the show. Except for the bits too good to drop, like all of Selma's marriages or Sideshow Bob.
 
2011-09-05 09:36:50 PM  

mjbok: DamnYankees: The station never went dark. What are you talking about.

The fact that food drops were still being done after the destruction of the Flame is stupid.

//The New Man in Charge is either canon or not, you can't pick and choose.


Meh, not that ridiculous. There was one food drop throughout the entire series, and, IIRC, it was before the Flame was destroyed. The idea of them making one more after its destruction isn't that crazy, anyway. The whole thing was automated partly via the Lamp Post (which was still being manned by the Others) except for the two warehouse workers in Guam who were kept in the dark about everything.
 
2011-09-05 09:38:54 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I can tell you which subplots I'd hope they would drop--the "romance" and "marriage" of LaGuerta and Batista. I'm halfway through season five, and I can't stand either one of them anymore. We're in love; no we're not! Hey, look at all of this money she's keeping from me! That's it! I'm divorcing you!


I'm actually surprised TFA didn't mention Laguerta's crush on Dexter. That was dropped rather quickly


I also seem to be the only one who liked the Arman Tamzarian episode of The Simpsons.
 
2011-09-05 09:40:46 PM  
also, every other plot of season 5 of The Office needs to be mentioned.
 
2011-09-05 09:44:09 PM  
It sucks that they never elaborated on why Walt was special, but at least there was a very big nod to it in "The New Man In Charge" that strongly implied that he eventually found out all about it.

/Also, Lost is 10x more awesome if you're living on a remote island when you watch it
/I was
 
2011-09-05 10:45:07 PM  
Nip/Tuck - Sean's daughter for about 3 seasons and the baby with the deformed hands.
 
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