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(Onion AV Club)   21 Dropped TV Subplots. Somehow, LOST does not take up all 21 spots   (avclub.com) divider line 193
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2011-09-05 05:05:06 AM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!
 
2011-09-05 07:37:19 AM
The same could be said of Dexter, or Heroes.
 
2011-09-05 08:00:20 AM
Ignores one of the biggest dropped subplots - Richie's "older" brother on "Happy Days." And there's a similar story, apocryphal I think, about one of the daytime soaps circa late 50's or early '60's wherein a peripheral character excuses him or herself to go upstairs to bed - and never comes down. Years later, the head writer gets a letter from a confused viewer wondered just when said sleeping character will be making a reappearance.
 
2011-09-05 08:13:33 AM

NJP2007: character excuses him or herself to go upstairs to bed - and never comes down.


Except for the upstairs part, was sounds like Spearchucker Jones.
 
2011-09-05 08:15:31 AM

LordOfThePings: Except for the upstairs part, was sounds like Spearchucker Jones.


Please phrase that in the form of not a question.
 
2011-09-05 08:23:50 AM

NJP2007: Ignores one of the biggest dropped subplots - Richie's "older" brother on "Happy Days." And there's a similar story, apocryphal I think, about one of the daytime soaps circa late 50's or early '60's wherein a peripheral character excuses him or herself to go upstairs to bed - and never comes down. Years later, the head writer gets a letter from a confused viewer wondered just when said sleeping character will be making a reappearance.


That wasn't a dropped subplot so much as a character just disappearing.
 
2011-09-05 09:19:06 AM
the ultimate is still chuck, richie's older brother on happy days. seen and mentioned in season one, never to be mentioned again.
 
2011-09-05 09:33:53 AM
Speaking of awkwardly aging Walts, lil' Walter White Jr (aka Flynn) is looking quite a bit older that he oughta be, don't you think? Still loves his breakfast cereal though.
 
2011-09-05 09:41:36 AM
That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.
 
2011-09-05 09:45:24 AM
9. Julien's gay lifestyle, The Shield

Huh? Don't really see how that belongs on the list. It was a subplot that ran its course and ended with him being married, living a lie under the guise of having been "cured". I mean...the show didn't air on Bravo, did they expect a multi-season arc for Julien being gay?

19. Furio's romance with Carmela, The Sopranos

You've gotta be shiatting me. They put THAT on there but barely mention "Russian in the woods"? GTFO. Furio goes back to Italy and he confesses to his uncle how he's in love with the bosses wife. His uncle tells him there's only two options, kill the boss or abandon his love. He can't bring himself to kill Tony (as we blatantly see in one episode), and opts to leave for Italy instead (as we hear after). That's not dropping the plot. At least they gave his subplot some closure as opposed to just "walking upstairs forever" ala Family Matters.


That's one shiatty list.
 
2011-09-05 09:47:16 AM
Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.

The West Wing - Sam loses. This is made pretty obvious. He leaves the White House knowing he will lose and presumably does. What more is there to say?
 
2011-09-05 09:57:35 AM
15. Foreman's near-death experience, House - the results confirm that his brain has been affected. How badly? We may never know, because it never really came up again

Did I dream the subsequent episodes where Foreman's outlook and mental capacity are issues; where he asserts a 'Don't worry, be happy' and he'shiatting the books to relearn what has been lost? Was 13 in the shower the whole time?

All lists suck in some manner, but dayuuum!
 
2011-09-05 10:17:47 AM

TheOther: he'shiatting the books


CAWKSUCKIN' FILTER!!1!!
 
2011-09-05 10:24:50 AM
Virus attack on President Palmer

That wasn't a dropped subplot. Mandy tried to assassinate Palmer and he lived but his hand was all farked up. End of sub plot. I do wish they would have brought back Mandy though.

/Mmmm....Mandy
 
2011-09-05 10:29:42 AM

DamnYankees: Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.


Right before the killed the "head" alien, it was sending out a signal. The episode ended with them wonder where the signal went...suggesting that there may be more aliens on the way. I think they dumped a follow up this for the better Borg story line.
 
2011-09-05 10:38:04 AM

UberDave: DamnYankees: Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.


Right before the killed the "head" alien, it was sending out a signal. The episode ended with them wonder where the signal went...suggesting that there may be more aliens on the way. I think they dumped a follow up this for the better Borg story line.


I thought Janeway was exiled to the Delta Quadrant because she was the new hive queen?
 
2011-09-05 10:42:51 AM

TheOther: I thought Janeway was exiled to the Delta Quadrant because she was the new hive queen?


I thought it was because nobody in the Alpha Quadrant could stand her voice.
 
2011-09-05 10:43:52 AM
9. Julien's gay lifestyle, The Shield

That's retarded, that subplot was never dropped, it was brought up fairly regularly when he was married, even in the last season.
 
2011-09-05 10:46:43 AM
19. Furio's romance with Carmela, The Sopranos

Again, that's retarded. The romance went as far as it could. Furio nearly killed Tony, and realized he had to flee otherwise he would end up dead, which is why he returned to hide in Italy. It broke Carmela's heart, and it was one of the main motivations for her to finally divorce today (only to take him back later).

It wasn't dropped in any way.
 
2011-09-05 11:11:39 AM

UberDave: DamnYankees: Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.


Right before the killed the "head" alien, it was sending out a signal. The episode ended with them wonder where the signal went...suggesting that there may be more aliens on the way. I think they dumped a follow up this for the better Borg story line.


There may be more aliens on the way. Yes. May. There wasn't. Did you need a line in a future episode saying "well, thankfully nothing came of that"?
 
2011-09-05 11:13:07 AM

LordOfThePings: TheOther: I thought Janeway was exiled to the Delta Quadrant because she was the new hive queen?

I thought it was because nobody in the Alpha Quadrant could stand her voice.


Any dammed excuse was a dammed good excuse.
 
2011-09-05 11:42:01 AM
What kind of ID did Book have to get into that hospital?

Because if we've included Deadwood in TFA, then we can go into other shows that suffered Total Existence Failure.
 
2011-09-05 11:59:43 AM

She comes in colors everywhere: What kind of ID did Book have to get into that hospital?


Cancellation does not equal 'dropping a plotline'.

Also, spoilers but here's why
 
2011-09-05 12:00:21 PM
They mention the super-villains from Heroes, but not Peter Petrelli's irish girlfriend who got left in an alternate future timeline?
 
2011-09-05 12:25:07 PM
Wow, I wish I could view the outrage in this thread as pure energy output.
 
2011-09-05 12:27:42 PM

DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.


I loved Lost but I honestly couldn't tell you what really happened in seasons 4 and 5. I think I got most of it at the time, but there was so much going on, so many characters. I dunno, I kind of got... lost around the time of Fionnula Flanagan came on and there was the big circle and so on.
 
2011-09-05 12:30:55 PM

coco ebert: DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.

I loved Lost but I honestly couldn't tell you what really happened in seasons 4 and 5. I think I got most of it at the time, but there was so much going on, so many characters. I dunno, I kind of got... lost around the time of Fionnula Flanagan came on and there was the big circle and so on.


Fionnula Flanagan came on in the beginning of season three - and she was awesome. Flashes Before Your Eyes was a tremendous episode.
 
2011-09-05 12:37:52 PM
I can tell you which subplots I'd hope they would drop--the "romance" and "marriage" of LaGuerta and Batista. I'm halfway through season five, and I can't stand either one of them anymore. We're in love; no we're not! Hey, look at all of this money she's keeping from me! That's it! I'm divorcing you!

It almost made me relieved when Julia Stiles appeared.

/almost
//should have stopped at Season Four and then done a few movie-length episodes
///do I have to do everything around here?
 
2011-09-05 12:40:42 PM

UNC_Samurai: They mention the super-villains from Heroes, but not Peter Petrelli's irish girlfriend who got left in an alternate future timeline?


I'm still worried about her.
 
2011-09-05 12:43:50 PM

UNC_Samurai: They mention the super-villains from Heroes, but not Peter Petrelli's irish girlfriend who got left in an alternate future timeline?


I imagine a dartboard of HEROES subplots, and the dart just happened to land on that one.
 
2011-09-05 12:44:14 PM
Seems odd to include The Simpsons in that list as that episode was satire, which was made clear by the ending.
 
2011-09-05 12:46:29 PM

swahnhennessy: Seems odd to include The Simpsons in that list as that episode was satire, which was made clear by the ending.


And was brought up in a later episode, with one of my favorite exchanges:

Lisa: I'm keeping you! You're Snowball V, but to save money on a new dish, we'll just call you Snowball II and pretend this whole thing never happened.
Principal Skinner: That's really a cheat, isn't it?
Lisa: I guess you're right, Principal Tamzarian.
Principal Skinner: I'll just be moving along, Lisa. Snowball II.
 
2011-09-05 12:47:02 PM

DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.


Oh yeah, like we know

What was the deal with Libby
What exactly were Walt's powers, why he had them, and how they could have been useful to the Others.
What exactly were Walt's superpowers and how come they never actually did anything useful?
Where did all the extras disappear to when the main cast went back in time?
If everybody who crashes into the island dies or can't get off the island, how did anybody get off the island to tell Darma about the island?
How come Jacob was invisible to people before he was dead?
Where did the "island natives" come from?

If these thousands of people were on the island and didn't see each other for months, how come the one night Michael decided to take his boat off the island, the cast from Deliverance knew exactly where he'd be? And why did they want Walt so bad in the first place?
How come so many people kept popping up on the island who never checked to see if the survivors of the plane crash were okay?
Why was Walt the only kid on the plane? Because I don't know about you guys but I have never flown anywhere without the adorable companionship of a screaming baby.
Why was Darma still making food drops?
What was that light/"source" on the island after all? How did that cork get there? What were those skeletons below the waterfall?

and a thousand other subplots that were absolutely not never answered after we were told they would be, only to be later told 'Stupid it's not about the Island, it's about the characters!'
 
2011-09-05 12:51:14 PM
I thought that Conspiracy was a good arc for the first season. The Bord definitely replaced it what with the "They're coming!" bit, but I would have liked to see that arc continued, even if it was much later.

\Also, they ruined the Borg when they gave them a Queen. Still entertaining, but not as terrifying as a mindless, soulless wave of cybernetic consumers.
\\The Cybernetic Consumers(tm), On tour now!
 
2011-09-05 12:51:34 PM
What happened to Anna Torv's sister on Fringe? Is she going to reappear at some point and stab Peter and Olivia in a fit of rage?

/yeah, yeah damn budget cuts
 
2011-09-05 12:51:36 PM

Tatsuma: DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.

Oh yeah, like we know

What was the deal with Libby
What exactly were Walt's powers, why he had them, and how they could have been useful to the Others.
What exactly were Walt's superpowers and how come they never actually did anything useful?
Where did all the extras disappear to when the main cast went back in time?
If everybody who crashes into the island dies or can't get off the island, how did anybody get off the island to tell Darma about the island?
How come Jacob was invisible to people before he was dead?
Where did the "island natives" come from?

If these thousands of people were on the island and didn't see each other for months, how come the one night Michael decided to take his boat off the island, the cast from Deliverance knew exactly where he'd be? And why did they want Walt so bad in the first place?
How come so many people kept popping up on the island who never checked to see if the survivors of the plane crash were okay?
Why was Walt the only kid on the plane? Because I don't know about you guys but I have never flown anywhere without the adorable companionship of a screaming baby.
Why was Darma still making food drops?
What was that light/"source" on the island after all? How did that cork get there? What were those skeletons below the waterfall?

and a thousand other subplots that were absolutely not never answered after we were told they would be, only to be later told 'Stupid it's not about the Island, it's about the characters!'


Around ninty percent of these questions are factually wrong or already answered in the show, or are truly retarded, akin to asking "how come it was never explained how George had so many hot girlfriends".
 
2011-09-05 12:53:08 PM

somemoron: I thought that Conspiracy was a good arc for the first season. The Bord definitely replaced it what with the "They're coming!" bit, but I would have liked to see that arc continued, even if it was much later.


I read somewhere that the Conspiracy and the Borg were originally supposed to be related, but they dropped that because...um...hey, look over there!

\Also, they ruined the Borg when they gave them a Queen. Still entertaining, but not as terrifying as a mindless, soulless wave of cybernetic consumers.
\\The Cybernetic Consumers(tm), On tour now!


I dunno. It changed them from robo-zombies to robo-ants. COULD be as bad, but...::shrug::
 
2011-09-05 12:54:54 PM

DamnYankees: coco ebert: DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.

I loved Lost but I honestly couldn't tell you what really happened in seasons 4 and 5. I think I got most of it at the time, but there was so much going on, so many characters. I dunno, I kind of got... lost around the time of Fionnula Flanagan came on and there was the big circle and so on.

Fionnula Flanagan came on in the beginning of season three - and she was awesome. Flashes Before Your Eyes was a tremendous episode.


Oh, right. Yeah, that was great. With Desmond and the ring, right? I think I mean the episode where they get all the people off the island together and she takes them into a room with a huge apparatus (don't even remember what it was exactly). I dunno, I started to feel like I needed a manual to keep up. It was still a great ride, though.
 
2011-09-05 12:55:51 PM

Tatsuma: DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.

Oh yeah, like we know

What was the deal with Libby
What exactly were Walt's powers, why he had them, and how they could have been useful to the Others.
What exactly were Walt's superpowers and how come they never actually did anything useful?
Where did all the extras disappear to when the main cast went back in time?
If everybody who crashes into the island dies or can't get off the island, how did anybody get off the island to tell Darma about the island?
How come Jacob was invisible to people before he was dead?
Where did the "island natives" come from?

If these thousands of people were on the island and didn't see each other for months, how come the one night Michael decided to take his boat off the island, the cast from Deliverance knew exactly where he'd be? And why did they want Walt so bad in the first place?
How come so many people kept popping up on the island who never checked to see if the survivors of the plane crash were okay?
Why was Walt the only kid on the plane? Because I don't know about you guys but I have never flown anywhere without the adorable companionship of a screaming baby.
Why was Darma still making food drops?
What was that light/"source" on the island after all? How did that cork get there? What were those skeletons below the waterfall?

and a thousand other subplots that were absolutely not never answered after we were told they would be, only to be later told 'Stupid it's not about the Island, it's about the characters!'


Libby had a breakdown when her husband died and checked herself into the hospital.
Walt was mostly useful to the Others because they needed children to replenish their population due to the pregnancy issue.
The main cast went back in time, not everybody. The extras were still chilling on the island.
It's possible to get off the island by using the right bearing. It's not impossible for someone to make it off and figure out how to get back (The mainland station)
Island Natives were the survivors of crashed boats over the years, or abductees from Dharma, etc.


Maybe I'll do the rest later. I have a meeting to go to. Most of your questions were either answered or really are not important at all.
 
2011-09-05 12:58:02 PM

DamnYankees: UberDave: DamnYankees: Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.


Right before the killed the "head" alien, it was sending out a signal. The episode ended with them wonder where the signal went...suggesting that there may be more aliens on the way. I think they dumped a follow up this for the better Borg story line.

There may be more aliens on the way. Yes. May. There wasn't. Did you need a line in a future episode saying "well, thankfully nothing came of that"?


I like to assume that somewhere between the first and second season, the parasites were completely successful in taking over the whole Federation and just never had a reason to talk about it.
 
2011-09-05 12:59:04 PM
BreezyWheeze 2011-09-05 07:37:19 AM The same could be said of Dexter, or Heroes.
=====================================================

Dexter has a LOT of subplots (typically 4 or 5 a season) and a few of them are terrible (Liddy in seaosn 5 for instance).

But I honestly can't remember a single one that they dropped and didn't resolve.

Then again, I really only ever focused on the main plot each season. So it may have happened and I just didn't realize it and/or care.
 
2011-09-05 01:06:17 PM

DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.


Love how you turn into a pure troll on LOST threads!
 
2011-09-05 01:10:24 PM

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude:
19. Furio's romance with Carmela, The Sopranos

You've gotta be shiatting me. They put THAT on there but barely mention "Russian in the woods"? GTFO.


Good lord, a thousand times THIS. I clicked the link thinking "well, the Russian in the woods is obviously #1, but let's see what else they put in there."
 
2011-09-05 01:12:10 PM

PizzaJedi81: swahnhennessy: Seems odd to include The Simpsons in that list as that episode was satire, which was made clear by the ending.

And was brought up in a later episode, with one of my favorite exchanges:

Lisa: I'm keeping you! You're Snowball V, but to save money on a new dish, we'll just call you Snowball II and pretend this whole thing never happened.
Principal Skinner: That's really a cheat, isn't it?
Lisa: I guess you're right, Principal Tamzarian.
Principal Skinner: I'll just be moving along, Lisa. Snowball II.


Yep. Was annoyed that the writers of that stupid article didn't recognize satire when they saw it. And that was one of the best exchanges in Simpsons history.
 
2011-09-05 01:15:37 PM
As far as the TNG one is concerned: the Borg was a direct result of that story line. The Borg was originally supposed to bbe an insect race that was linked to the ones mentioned in the article but when the producers did the math all the makeup/prosthetics/set design was gonna be too pricey so they reworked it into the Borg storyline. All in all not too bad a resultq, up until the Borg was neutered as a villain.

Sleep, indeed...
 
2011-09-05 01:20:21 PM

HMS_Blinkin: PizzaJedi81: swahnhennessy: Seems odd to include The Simpsons in that list as that episode was satire, which was made clear by the ending.

And was brought up in a later episode, with one of my favorite exchanges:

Lisa: I'm keeping you! You're Snowball V, but to save money on a new dish, we'll just call you Snowball II and pretend this whole thing never happened.
Principal Skinner: That's really a cheat, isn't it?
Lisa: I guess you're right, Principal Tamzarian.
Principal Skinner: I'll just be moving along, Lisa. Snowball II.

Yep. Was annoyed that the writers of that stupid article didn't recognize satire when they saw it. And that was one of the best exchanges in Simpsons history.


I think they quite clearly recognize that it is satire. They end by saying: "comments sharply on TV shows that ask us to become invested in characters and later pull out the rug."

It is satirical commentary. I mean, fark, this is The Onion dude/lady. They know satire.
 
2011-09-05 01:22:19 PM

Sick and Tired of Being Sick and Tired: until the Borg was neutered as a villain.


This argument has never made sense. Having a directional intelligence ruins it for you somehow? Even when it's plainly stated that she's not so much their leader as the axis for the hive mind. Data asks questions about it in First Contact.

And if having individuals in the Borg is a dealbreaker then they did it day 1, minute 1 with Locutus.
 
2011-09-05 01:23:01 PM

DamnYankees: Around ninty percent of these questions are factually wrong or already answered in the show, or are truly retarded, akin to asking "how come it was never explained how George had so many hot girlfriends".


So you'll just wave your hand? Seriously, are you Cruse?

jake3988: Dexter has a LOT of subplots (typically 4 or 5 a season) and a few of them are terrible (Liddy in seaosn 5 for instance).


CHICKY HINES

Also shut your whore mouth, Liddy was awesome
 
2011-09-05 01:24:44 PM
http://www.ugo.com/tv/lost-unsolved-mysteries
 
2011-09-05 01:27:10 PM

Tatsuma: So you'll just wave your hand? Seriously, are you Cruse?


www.mtv.com

Him?
 
2011-09-05 01:29:02 PM

PizzaJedi81: somemoron: I thought that Conspiracy was a good arc for the first season. The Bord definitely replaced it what with the "They're coming!" bit, but I would have liked to see that arc continued, even if it was much later.

I read somewhere that the Conspiracy and the Borg were originally supposed to be related, but they dropped that because...um...hey, look over there!

\Also, they ruined the Borg when they gave them a Queen. Still entertaining, but not as terrifying as a mindless, soulless wave of cybernetic consumers.
\\The Cybernetic Consumers(tm), On tour now!

I dunno. It changed them from robo-zombies to robo-ants. COULD be as bad, but...::shrug::


I had a theory on the Queen character the origin of the Borg. A scientist attempting to save his wounded daughter uses technology and nanites in an attempt to heal/revive her. The technology goes bad and she starts to turn the entire town into Borg. This explains why there are multiple copies of the Queen in different quadrants.
 
2011-09-05 01:30:03 PM
So this is basically a list of points in different series when the author wasn't paying attention.
 
2011-09-05 01:33:17 PM

DamnYankees: The West Wing - Sam loses. This is made pretty obvious. He leaves the White House knowing he will lose and presumably does. What more is there to say?


Yeah, I was gonna say... They had that scene in the bar with Sam and Toby, where the latter tells the former, it's over and Toby didn't want Sam to just twist in the wind alone. The entire show made it pretty clear you're either in or you're out, and if you lose an election you're just gone. That's one thing I liked about the Sorkin Years: A distinct lack of sentimentality when it came to winners and losers.
 
2011-09-05 01:44:59 PM
Heroes - Hyping up the whole villains event the whole summer...only to kill them off three episodes in. Shocker the writers strike farked it up or so they say.

Fringe - I forgot about the whole pattern thing. Maybe it was for the best though.
 
2011-09-05 01:51:42 PM
The best part of the Conspiracy storyline was it was one of the best attempts by TNG to have an arc. The conspiracy was hinted at during several episodes prior to the end of the arc, and Remmick showed up often enough that it was pretty shocking what they did to him.
 
2011-09-05 01:53:36 PM

eddievercetti: Fringe - I forgot about the whole pattern thing. Maybe it was for the best though.


Isn't the pattern pretty much what we're just still going through now?
 
2011-09-05 01:53:44 PM

eddievercetti: Heroes - Hyping up the whole villains event the whole summer...only to kill them off three episodes in. Shocker the writers strike farked it up or so they say.

Fringe - I forgot about the whole pattern thing. Maybe it was for the best though.


They didn't drop "The Pattern". "The Pattern" was the code name for the series of events they had no explanation for. Once they had an explanation for what was going on, aka Walternate, the need for the blanket code name for unexplained occurances vanished.

It's like the whole thing after 9/11, once we knew it was Al Quaida, we didn't refer to the attackers as "Unknown terrorists" anymore.
 
2011-09-05 01:54:10 PM
I always found it odd that Tony Soprano never tried to find Melfi's rapist.
 
2011-09-05 02:04:04 PM

good_2_go: I always found it odd that Tony Soprano never tried to find Melfi's rapist.


I thought it was that Tony never knew? That whole scene at the end of that episode, where he asked her what's wrong and is there anything she needs to tell him, and she just says "no" with finality.
 
2011-09-05 02:07:30 PM
Writer doesn't watch House much apparently.

1 the guy who shot House was shot and caught immediately and spent the rest of the episode chained to a bed next to House. In that episode why he shot House was well explained and presumably the guy isn't mentioned ever again is he went to jail for life.

2 the Foreman near death episodes aftermath played out over several following episodes as he had to learn some things all over again and was, for a brief time a very different person and House made much of how BS Foremans attitude conversion was until finally he was proven right and Foreman went back to his old self.

How much more plot exploration did that need for the author?
 
2011-09-05 02:11:04 PM

Tatsuma: What were those skeletons below the waterfall?


Rose and Bernard
 
2011-09-05 02:11:07 PM
Body-snatching-alien conspiracy, Star Trek: The Next Generation

best. episode. evar. god i love conspiracies.

im disappointed they didnt make this idea into a movie, let alone further tv episodes.

one rumour i heard was that this race was originally what the writers conceived to be what eventually became the borg. if so, i guess it can be forgiven, the borg were pretty cool.
 
2011-09-05 02:13:40 PM

NeoCortex42: The best part of the Conspiracy storyline was it was one of the best attempts by TNG to have an arc. The conspiracy was hinted at during several episodes prior to the end of the arc, and Remmick showed up often enough that it was pretty shocking what they did to him.


you mean the on and off riker and troi gettin it awn didnt count as an arc??

/ *gag*
// hated them both
// cept for troi's t&a
 
2011-09-05 02:16:47 PM
Wasn't there a religious angle or something they were going with on Fringe that was dropped?

How about the evil leapers from Quantum Leap?

Arturo's possibly evil twin joining the Slider's team?

The artifiact from Eureka?
 
2011-09-05 02:17:07 PM
Did we ever find out why Amy had never heard of the Daleks in Series 5 of New Who?
 
2011-09-05 02:26:07 PM

good_2_go: I always found it odd that Tony Soprano never tried to find Melfi's rapist.


He never knew
 
2011-09-05 02:26:31 PM

TheOther: 15. Foreman's near-death experience, House - the results confirm that his brain has been affected. How badly? We may never know, because it never really came up again

Did I dream the subsequent episodes where Foreman's outlook and mental capacity are issues; where he asserts a 'Don't worry, be happy' and he'shiatting the books to relearn what has been lost? Was 13 in the shower the whole time?

All lists suck in some manner, but dayuuum!


You didn't dream it. He couldn't even remember how to make coffee the next episode, so House wouldn't let him touch a patient. He was pretty close to resigning, but by the end of the episode he was using flashcards to retrain his mind. And the incident was referred to in several subsequent episodes. I think it was wrapped up fairly well... House doesn't leave a lot of loose ends with its major characters.

The only other show I watched on this list was TNG. The show runners have come out several times saying that Roddenberry was unhappy with that episode, and never allowed them to follow through with the subplot. He was strongly opposed to continuity and story development at that level. Most of the ideas they were going to use for those aliens became the Borg in later episodes.

Is the rest of the list this bad?
 
2011-09-05 02:32:58 PM
I think the Shanti virus and Peter's girlfriend being stuck in the future were bigger dropped plots than the villains issue. The writer's strike really screwed Heroes over.

Outshined_One: Did we ever find out why Amy had never heard of the Daleks in Series 5 of New Who?


The Dalek invasion of earth never happened thanks to the cracks in time, but after the Big Bang 2 that was all fixed.
 
2011-09-05 02:36:10 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! A LOST reference, Subby? Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that outside the program before. God what a clever, smart Subby you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!
 
2011-09-05 02:36:53 PM
Trying to put all of LOST's dropped sub plots into a single list like this is like saying "Which free porn site am I going to download fapping material today?" There's just so many to choose from that you run into performance anxiety, and go back to the one porn site you know has the stuff you like.

Or in LOST parlance:
WAAAAAAALLLLLTTTT!!!!
 
2011-09-05 02:37:01 PM

Stile4aly: I think the Shanti virus and Peter's girlfriend being stuck in the future were bigger dropped plots than the villains issue. The writers's strike really screwed Heroes over.


FTFY

After the first season, the show was heading downhill regardless of the strike. The strike didn't help, but the subsequent season showed that even without the strike the show was a lost cause. It had so much potential, but the writing was atrocious. I'm pretty sure most episode writers hadn't actually watched the show before based on how much character motivations and powers changes throughout each season.
 
2011-09-05 02:38:28 PM
Potential band name: "Eric Foreman's Brain"

Bonus points if half your band claims it's from House, and the other half claim it's from That 70's Show.
 
2011-09-05 02:39:59 PM
And what ever happened to that villainous farmer from critters, in batman:tas? Did he end up hanging out with ivy? We'll never know.
 
2011-09-05 02:43:24 PM

Digitalstrange: Writer doesn't watch House much apparently.

1 the guy who shot House was shot and caught immediately and spent the rest of the episode chained to a bed next to House. In that episode why he shot House was well explained and presumably the guy isn't mentioned ever again is he went to jail for life.


The guy escaped, and there were references in later episodes about how he hadn't been caught. Everything that happens in that episode from the time House gets shot until the last minute or so is just a dream.
 
2011-09-05 02:54:28 PM
Furio doesn't belong in there. It was a full character arc and there was closure. That's not dropped. And the Russian, barefoot, in pajamas, in the freezing snow, missing the back of his skull and bleeding profusely--DIED SOMEWHERE IN THE WOODS. The Russian was a catalyst for what the episode was really about. I really don't understand why people obsess about that guy. It's not like Soprano could deploy helicopters to do an aerial search, and Chris and Paulie were too stupid to make it a quarter mile without getting completely lost because mafiosos are complete melodramatic morons who secretly hate each other (hint: that is the point of the episode).
 
2011-09-05 02:56:49 PM
Everyone help! I've been crammed in Mr. Belding's file cabinet for 20 years!

media.tumblr.com
 
2011-09-05 03:08:56 PM

JLEM: Furio doesn't belong in there. It was a full character arc and there was closure. That's not dropped. And the Russian, barefoot, in pajamas, in the freezing snow, missing the back of his skull and bleeding profusely--DIED SOMEWHERE IN THE WOODS. The Russian was a catalyst for what the episode was really about. I really don't understand why people obsess about that guy. It's not like Soprano could deploy helicopters to do an aerial search, and Chris and Paulie were too stupid to make it a quarter mile without getting completely lost because mafiosos are complete melodramatic morons who secretly hate each other (hint: that is the point of the episode).


If the Russian died in the woods, then who stole Chris and Paulie's car?
 
2011-09-05 03:13:47 PM
Could have just said the first 3 seasons of Alias.
 
2011-09-05 03:18:46 PM
What about Dallas, where Ray the ranch hand was having an affair with Lucy Ewing? A couple of years later it was revealed that Ray was Jock's bastard son and Lucy's uncle.

Awkward....

And never mentioned......
 
2011-09-05 03:25:15 PM
What about Joan's roommate from "Mad Men"?
 
2011-09-05 03:27:04 PM

kliq: Everyone help! I've been crammed in Mr. Belding's file cabinet for 20 years!

[media.tumblr.com image 247x320]


What's creepier, Belding following Zack across the country to continue teaching him or Mr. Feeny somehow teaching Corey from Boy Meets World from grade school to college and somehow shadowing him his entire life, albeit in the same town they where neighbors in?
 
2011-09-05 03:28:13 PM

mikieb: If the Russian died in the woods, then who stole Chris and Paulie's car?


It got towed, if that even was the place they had parked it in. If not, it got towed from where they'd actually parked it.
 
2011-09-05 03:37:25 PM

NeoCortex42: Tatsuma: DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.

Oh yeah, like we know

What was the deal with Libby
What exactly were Walt's powers, why he had them, and how they could have been useful to the Others.
What exactly were Walt's superpowers and how come they never actually did anything useful?
Where did all the extras disappear to when the main cast went back in time?
If everybody who crashes into the island dies or can't get off the island, how did anybody get off the island to tell Darma about the island?
How come Jacob was invisible to people before he was dead?
Where did the "island natives" come from?

If these thousands of people were on the island and didn't see each other for months, how come the one night Michael decided to take his boat off the island, the cast from Deliverance knew exactly where he'd be? And why did they want Walt so bad in the first place?
How come so many people kept popping up on the island who never checked to see if the survivors of the plane crash were okay?
Why was Walt the only kid on the plane? Because I don't know about you guys but I have never flown anywhere without the adorable companionship of a screaming baby.
Why was Darma still making food drops?
What was that light/"source" on the island after all? How did that cork get there? What were those skeletons below the waterfall?

and a thousand other subplots that were absolutely not never answered after we were told they would be, only to be later told 'Stupid it's not about the Island, it's about the characters!'

Libby had a breakdown when her husband died and checked herself into the hospital.
Walt was mostly useful to the Others because they needed children to replenish their population due to the pregnancy issue.
The main cast went back in time, not everybody. The extras were still chilling on the island.
It's possible to get off the island by using the right bearing. It's not impossible for someone to make it off and figure out how to get back (The mainland station)
Island Natives were the survivors of crashed boats over the years, or abductees from Dharma, etc.


Maybe I'll do the rest later. I have a meeting to go to. Most of your questions were either answered or really are not important at all.


I believe that most of the extras either became "Others" or were just killed off.
Jacob was never invisible. He just choose not to reveal himself.
Dharma kept making food drops because nobody ever bothered turning off the food drop alert system.
The skeletons were MIB and his mother.
The Others were always tracking the suvivors and had Ethan in their camp, which is how they knew Michael was trying to leave.
The only people who popped up on the island after the crash were sent by Widmore, who were there to take out Ben and take over the island. Oceanic covered up the crash by saying everyone died.
There were other kids on the flight. We saw some from the tail section and they ended up with the Others.
I'll give you the whole "source"/cork thing. We just know that the cork was meant to stop the world from ending or something.

/Yes, I'm a major Lost nerd.
//And I can tell you probably just watched about a season and a half worth of the show, decided it required too much thinking, and picked up tidbits about what happened from other sources.
 
2011-09-05 03:49:32 PM

LordOfThePings: TheOther: I thought Janeway was exiled to the Delta Quadrant because she was the new hive queen?

I thought it was because nobody in the Alpha Quadrant could stand her voice.


I don't think it ever suck quite as low as Enterprise. I recall a site written by a screenwriter with scathing reviews of most of the episodes discussing the many inconsistencies and plot holes.

Ah, here it is. (new window)

What I personally recall as being the most egregious were the capture of a cell ship early on that could travel much, much faster than the Enterprise and could cloak - something that could have been very useful on many later occasions but was completely forgotten in the hold, and several hints dropped about a "Temporal Cold War" that appeared to be planned to dominate the storyline until it was dropped completely to make room for a heavy-handed and badly overextended commentary on terrorism and multiculturalism culminating in a few final episodes that looked like nothing more than an attempt by the writers to physically reach through fans' TV screens and quite literally masturbate them.
 
2011-09-05 04:10:00 PM
Mad About You - whatever happened to Selby?
sharetv.org

He suddenly morphed into Cousin Ira:
www.seriessub.com

And everyone forgets the most notorious dropped subplot from ST:TOS:
What the hell happened to Lt. Dave Bailey?
trekmovie.com
 
2011-09-05 04:11:06 PM

clkeagle: TheOther: 15. Foreman's near-death experience, House - the results confirm that his brain has been affected. How badly? We may never know, because it never really came up again

Did I dream the subsequent episodes where Foreman's outlook and mental capacity are issues; where he asserts a 'Don't worry, be happy' and he'shiatting the books to relearn what has been lost? Was 13 in the shower the whole time?

All lists suck in some manner, but dayuuum!

You didn't dream it. He couldn't even remember how to make coffee the next episode, so House wouldn't let him touch a patient. He was pretty close to resigning, but by the end of the episode he was using flashcards to retrain his mind. And the incident was referred to in several subsequent episodes. I think it was wrapped up fairly well... House doesn't leave a lot of loose ends with its major characters.

The only other show I watched on this list was TNG. The show runners have come out several times saying that Roddenberry was unhappy with that episode, and never allowed them to follow through with the subplot. He was strongly opposed to continuity and story development at that level. Most of the ideas they were going to use for those aliens became the Borg in later episodes.

Is the rest of the list this bad?


Other than West Wing and Twin Peaks, I don't think I ever watched enough of the others to give any kind of informed input. I thought Sam's departure on West Wing was clearly defined and not part of the White House story. I don't remember the Twin Peaks incidents, so they must be pretty obscure. Terrible list.
 
2011-09-05 04:15:25 PM

CZMisfitsFan: //And I can tell you probably just watched about a season and a half worth of the show, decided it required too much thinking, and picked up tidbits about what happened from other sources.


Actually I just mostly cut pasted a list of question from some random blog.

I watched each seasons up to Season 6 multiple times. 4-5 times easily.

Thanks to season 6, I gave my dvds away and I'm never going to bother again. That's coming from someone who will watch season 6 and 7 of buffy when I'm doing a series run.
 
2011-09-05 04:16:36 PM

CZMisfitsFan: //And I can tell you probably just watched about a season and a half worth of the show, decided it required too much thinking, and picked up tidbits about what happened from other sources.


oh and not only were you an assuming and insulting twat, you also carefully managed not to answer most of these questions at the same time

I've never seen you before, and I really haven't lost much.
 
2011-09-05 04:19:15 PM
the MASH spearchucker Jones MIA was due, in part, to the writers finding out, just a bit too late, that there weren't any black doctors in the US forces in Korea.

I vaguely remember some show, was it Fresh Prince maybe? mentioning an older brother at boarding school once, and then never again.

The list needs a sub-category of "it was all a dream" fixes for subplots. Newhart is exempt though.
 
2011-09-05 04:28:12 PM
Psychic Daphne.
 
2011-09-05 04:31:56 PM

Tatsuma: CZMisfitsFan: //And I can tell you probably just watched about a season and a half worth of the show, decided it required too much thinking, and picked up tidbits about what happened from other sources.

oh and not only were you an assuming and insulting twat, you also carefully managed not to answer most of these questions at the same time

I've never seen you before, and I really haven't lost much.

If you've seen each season that many times, you would have had all the answers. Unless you did have the answers and you just copied and pasted from that blog to make some kind of point. The only questions I didn't answer were about Walt (I agree that storyline went nowhere) and the whole "Source"/cork thing which I acknowledged.

/Each Farker has some twatness in them. I just choose to reveal mine now.
 
2011-09-05 04:31:56 PM

Zombie DJ: HAHAHAHAHAHA!! A LOST reference, Subby? Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that outside the program before. God what a clever, smart Subby you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!




A Family Guy reference? Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that outside the program before. God what a clever, smart Subby you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!
 
2011-09-05 04:39:39 PM

CZMisfitsFan: If you've seen each season that many times, you would have had all the answers. Unless you did have the answers and you just copied and pasted from that blog to make some kind of point. The only questions I didn't answer were about Walt (I agree that storyline went nowhere) and the whole "Source"/cork thing which I acknowledged.


I also posted a link to an actual list, where you have the top 50 unresolved plot points from Lost.
 
2011-09-05 04:40:16 PM

CZMisfitsFan: Dharma kept making food drops because nobody ever bothered turning off the food drop alert system.


Doesn't add up because food drops were ordered from the station that Locke blew up after playing chess with the computer.

CZMisfitsFan: The skeletons were MIB and his mother.


While this was explained this is one of the things that even a LOST fan can not rationalize away how they fumbled this.

CZMisfitsFan: The only people who popped up on the island after the crash were sent by Widmore, who were there to take out Ben and take over the island. Oceanic covered up the crash by saying everyone died.


Oceanic didn't cover the crash up, Widmore did.

NeoCortex42: Libby had a breakdown when her husband died and checked herself into the hospital.


Half of this is true (for sure). Her checking herself in was only discussed in the sideways universe, and therefore is not necessarily true.
 
2011-09-05 04:44:47 PM

Tatsuma: Oh yeah, like we know


That's the most retarded list I've ever seen.
 
2011-09-05 04:46:26 PM

Cutchaholic: Mad Men...


Mad Men is so frustrating to me in that way and, yeah, I wondered what they were trying to achieve with that particular subplot. Also, why get us so attached to characters like Salvatore and Kinsey just to make them disappear completely with no satisfying resolution? Those two in particular seemed to get a raw deal considering how much screen time they had in the first three seasons.

/4th season sucked
//Breaking Bad > Mad Men
 
2011-09-05 04:50:21 PM
Wow, TNG had some crappy effects.
 
2011-09-05 04:51:30 PM

Ecobuckeye: Wow, TNG had some crappy effects.


It was the late 80s, early 90s, what do you expect?
 
2011-09-05 04:51:33 PM

Digitalstrange: Writer doesn't watch House much apparently.

1 the guy who shot House was shot and caught immediately and spent the rest of the episode chained to a bed next to House. In that episode why he shot House was well explained and presumably the guy isn't mentioned ever again is he went to jail for life.

2 the Foreman near death episodes aftermath played out over several following episodes as he had to learn some things all over again and was, for a brief time a very different person and House made much of how BS Foremans attitude conversion was until finally he was proven right and Foreman went back to his old self.

How much more plot exploration did that need for the author?


The Foreman near death two-parter ends with him mixing up his left and right. There's never any other physical symptoms or talk of physical symptoms. Yeah, there are a few shots of him reading books, but the brain issues did seem underplayed.

There's the whole happy-about-everything personality shift, but that's a change (and change back) of character and point of view, not a symptom.

Still, apparently this list sucks. I haven't watched most of the shows on it so I can't really comment much.
 
2011-09-05 04:56:16 PM

PizzaJedi81: Ecobuckeye: Wow, TNG had some crappy effects.

It was the late 80s, early 90s, what do you expect?


On a television show budget, no less. Though I did like the facial peel and subsequent head 'asplode.
 
2011-09-05 05:00:30 PM

somemoron: PizzaJedi81: Ecobuckeye: Wow, TNG had some crappy effects.

It was the late 80s, early 90s, what do you expect?

On a television show budget, no less. Though I did like the facial peel and subsequent head 'asplode.


Plus, it was an early season, before it got super-popular, so it's likely they only got one super-cool effect per season.
 
2011-09-05 05:13:19 PM
Okay, 24, what the hell happened to Behrooz?

And don't give us that "there's a deleted scene on the DVD" mumbo-jumbo.


Mugato: That wasn't a dropped subplot. Mandy tried to assassinate Palmer and he lived but his hand was all farked up. End of sub plot. I do wish they would have brought back Mandy though.

That, and unlike what the article said, the show *did* make a reference to the failed assassination.

In the first episode of Season 3, Wayne Palmer tells David Palmer to emphasize in the debate that he publicly brought down the people responsible for the attack while "in a weakened state." It ties right into the political subplot of Palmer's reelection, although this fact doesn't really come into focus for the rest of the season.

So... yeah, it is addressed.
 
2011-09-05 05:19:00 PM

Really I'm Black: Body-snatching-alien conspiracy, Star Trek: The Next Generation

best. episode. evar. god i love conspiracies.

im disappointed they didnt make this idea into a movie, let alone further tv episodes.

one rumour i heard was that this race was originally what the writers conceived to be what eventually became the borg. if so, i guess it can be forgiven, the borg were pretty cool.


NOT THE ORIGINAL CONSPIRACY
Heard this from somebody directly involved (in charge of) story planning on the show -- one of many disputes.

The original conspiracy was a group of Starfleet officers who believed the Prime Directive was deeply immoral and were willing to commit their lives to its reversal through any means, including insurrection.

Storyline vetoed because there are no politics in the Federation -- made into alien invaders instead.
 
2011-09-05 05:26:10 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Okay, 24, what the hell happened to Behrooz?

And don't give us that "there's a deleted scene on the DVD" mumbo-jumbo.


I want to second that question about Behrooz.

Also, completely agree with the 'Just look at the DVDs'

Doesn't count. So don't tell me 'Well lost explains everything in the special features!' doesn't count.
 
2011-09-05 05:31:03 PM

PizzaJedi81: It was the late 80s, early 90s, what do you expect?

On a television show budget, no less. Though I did like the facial peel and subsequent head 'asplode.

Plus, it was an early season, before it got super-popular, so it's likely they only got one super-cool effect per season.


No, the FX in that episode were terrible even for 1988 TV. Stop motion was done better in the 1940s. But they got better.
 
2011-09-05 05:36:39 PM
Tatsuma: I want to second that question about Behrooz.

Also, completely agree with the 'Just look at the DVDs'

Doesn't count. So don't tell me 'Well lost explains everything in the special features!' doesn't count.



Yeah, they were just a bit sloppy in the case of Behrooz. The resolution on the DVD deleted scene is interesting, but if it didn't happen on the small screen, it didn't happen.

And they never gave us any closure about what happened to John Keeler, either. They *kinda* gave us closure on what happened to Wayne Palmer with a newspaper prop in 24: Redemption. In both of these cases, though, the folks behind the show were a mite sloppy.

I'd also like to believe that Season 6 never happened, but that's something else about the sloppiness altogether.
 
2011-09-05 05:39:41 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Okay, 24, what the hell happened to Behrooz?

And don't give us that "there's a deleted scene on the DVD" mumbo-jumbo.


Behrooooz! Don't remember. I didn't start watching 24 until the 4th season so I watched 3 seasons on DVD in like a week and so they sort of run together. I do remember that his mom killed his cutie girlfriend.
 
2011-09-05 05:40:06 PM

DamnYankees: UberDave: DamnYankees: Two of those to comment on:

TNG - what's the follow up on? It ends with an ominous note, but no more or less than usual. No need for a followup, no unanswered questions.


Right before the killed the "head" alien, it was sending out a signal. The episode ended with them wonder where the signal went...suggesting that there may be more aliens on the way. I think they dumped a follow up this for the better Borg story line.

There may be more aliens on the way. Yes. May. There wasn't. Did you need a line in a future episode saying "well, thankfully nothing came of that"?


Well, given that some very powerful people in Starfleet were taken over by aliens, yeah.

Really, the reason for that episode is that the Ferrengi, who were intended to be the big bads of TNG, and were built up a bit to be on par with the Federation in technology and mysterious, dangerous adversaries to be feared, were more like cowardly little hunchbacked neanderthals when they were revealed in the first season. So, they had to come up with a new big bad. They tried to with this alien infestation plot. Of course, in next season they'd come up with something better instead: the Borg. That would, of course, not really kick off until the Season 3 finale.

The alien infestation plot would come back and be done well in DS9 with different aliens of course.
 
2011-09-05 05:40:59 PM

OhioKnight: The original conspiracy was a group of Starfleet officers who believed the Prime Directive was deeply immoral and were willing to commit their lives to its reversal through any means, including insurrection.


That would have been cool. Sounds more like a DS9 story though.
 
2011-09-05 05:43:53 PM

PizzaJedi81: Plus, it was an early season, before it got super-popular, so it's likely they only got one super-cool effect per season.


Like the giant black paint monster.
 
2011-09-05 05:44:13 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Yeah, they were just a bit sloppy in the case of Behrooz. The resolution on the DVD deleted scene is interesting, but if it didn't happen on the small screen, it didn't happen.


Oh most definitely. If it didn't air, it didn't happen.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: And they never gave us any closure about what happened to John Keeler, either. They *kinda* gave us closure on what happened to Wayne Palmer with a newspaper prop in 24: Redemption. In both of these cases, though, the folks behind the show were a mite sloppy.

I'd also like to believe that Season 6 never happened, but that's something else about the sloppiness altogether.


What on earth are you talking about? 24 ended with Jack riding in the sunset at the end of Season 5 after saving the country, thus earning well deserved rest for the decades to come.
 
2011-09-05 05:44:56 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Yeah, they were just a bit sloppy in the case of Behrooz. The resolution on the DVD deleted scene is interesting, but if it didn't happen on the small screen, it didn't happen


Heh. That's how I feel about Christopher Lee in LOTR.
 
2011-09-05 05:51:50 PM
McMillan & Wife and invisible baby?
Mrs Mac - Sally is invisible (contract dispute) in season 5 with her absence explained as being with "the baby" who is also never seen. Only by season 6 is she "killed-off" in a plane crash.
 
2011-09-05 05:52:11 PM
Just 21? Hell, I'm pretty sure 'Andromeda' had more than that all by itself.
 
2011-09-05 05:52:42 PM
Mugato: Heh. That's how I feel about Christopher Lee in LOTR.

I'm not a Tolkien fanboy, mind you, but I'm still pissed about that because Christopher Lee deserved better than to make way for 30 minutes of battle scenes and 20 minutes of Liv Tyler staring into the camera.


Behrooooz! Don't remember. I didn't start watching 24 until the 4th season so I watched 3 seasons on DVD in like a week and so they sort of run together. I do remember that his mom killed his cutie girlfriend.

Ahhh, gotcha.

Well, in the show, Marwan's henchmen find Behrooz's tracker and take him for "reeducation."

That's the last that we "officially" see of him.


Tatsuma: What on earth are you talking about? 24 ended with Jack riding in the sunset at the end of Season 5 after saving the country, thus earning well deserved rest for the decades to come.

*snert*

I could live with that!
 
2011-09-05 05:53:49 PM

PIP_the_TROLL: Having a directional intelligence ruins it for you somehow?


Why do you suppose that's what I meant? I never eluded to how I believe they were made useless as a villain. Just because that's a common argument doesn't mean I believe that. I happen to like the idea of a queen (or the equivalent) directing the Collective.

What I meant is how the writers of Voyager made them into a useless villain.
 
2011-09-05 05:58:29 PM
Disappearing character - Donna's little sister, Tina, in That 70's Show
 
2011-09-05 06:03:57 PM

theorellior: Like the giant black paint monster.


What giant black paint monster? I recall no such monster. Nope. And Tasha Yar was...let's see...transfered to another ship. Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
2011-09-05 06:11:48 PM

puckrock2000: Mad About You - whatever happened to Selby?
[sharetv.org image 225x169]

He suddenly morphed into Cousin Ira:
[www.seriessub.com image 300x450]

And everyone forgets the most notorious dropped subplot from ST:TOS:
What the hell happened to Lt. Dave Bailey?
[trekmovie.com image 612x454]


He got addicted to tranya
 
2011-09-05 06:13:05 PM

Tatsuma: Why was Darma still making food drops?


Because Desmond was technically working for Dharma while entering in the code in the Swan Station. The Lost crew kept entering in the code upon his leaving and so Dharma had no reason to think anything had gone wrong. So, they kept sending food.
 
2011-09-05 06:16:03 PM
powet.tv
Hai guys! What's going on this thread?
 
2011-09-05 06:28:12 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: *snert*

I could live with that!


and that's how I choose to remember it
 
2011-09-05 06:28:30 PM
have any of you said the little winslow girl? in that urkel show. she comes up often enough.
 
2011-09-05 06:33:44 PM

Aladriel: Because Desmond was technically working for Dharma while entering in the code in the Swan Station. The Lost crew kept entering in the code upon his leaving and so Dharma had no reason to think anything had gone wrong. So, they kept sending food.


And when did we learn that exactly?
 
2011-09-05 06:36:01 PM
Speaking of dropped plots... remember the cartoon Rocky & Bullwinkle? Remember how at the end of every show they would tell you to tune in next week for (wild plot synopsis)?

NEVER ONCE DID THEY COME THROUGH! NOT ONCE! AAARGGGGHHHHH!!!!

\I thought TV was showing all the episodes out of order and was all mad, because the (plot synopsis) sounded so much cooler than the show I just watched.
 
2011-09-05 06:43:38 PM
Good article. I was very disappointed about the dropped body-snatching plotline of Star Trek: TNG. That looks like it had all kind of possibilities, it even gave me a couple bad dreams... and then just dissipated into ether. Sad.
 
2011-09-05 06:44:56 PM

Tatsuma: Aladriel: Because Desmond was technically working for Dharma while entering in the code in the Swan Station. The Lost crew kept entering in the code upon his leaving and so Dharma had no reason to think anything had gone wrong. So, they kept sending food.

And when did we learn that exactly?


You really need everything spelled out for you, don't you.
 
2011-09-05 06:49:09 PM

DamnYankees: You really need everything spelled out for you, don't you.


The whole Darma project had been wiped out for what, nearly 40 years? It was in the early 70s, right?

So we're supposed to believe that for 40 years, even after the Island went completely silent (as it certainly wasn't silent and communicated quite frequently with the outside world) except for the push of a button, the people outside of the Island just shrugged their shoulders and figured 'Welp, let's just keep on sending food all the time anyway'

That makes no sense at all.
 
2011-09-05 06:59:48 PM

Tatsuma: The whole Darma project had been wiped out for what, nearly 40 years? It was in the early 70s, right?


Did you even watch the show? The Purge took place in the nineties, something like ten years before the show started.
 
2011-09-05 07:00:58 PM

Tatsuma: The whole Darma project had been wiped out for what, nearly 40 years? It was in the early 70s, right?

So we're supposed to believe that for 40 years, even after the Island went completely silent (as it certainly wasn't silent and communicated quite frequently with the outside world) except for the push of a button, the people outside of the Island just shrugged their shoulders and figured 'Welp, let's just keep on sending food all the time anyway'

That makes no sense at all.


I can actually accept that given that it was a process kicked off every so often from another station. Keeping a working factory going for 40 years is much harder to believe, but still I can go with it. However once the station is gone, there is no reason for it.
 
2011-09-05 07:03:19 PM

DamnYankees: Did you even watch the show? The Purge took place in the nineties, something like ten years before the show started.


The purge took place in 1992, twelve years before the crash of 815.
 
2011-09-05 07:06:55 PM

DamnYankees: Did you even watch the show? The Purge took place in the nineties, something like ten years before the show started.


As I said, I really loved it until the 4th season, then after that it got more and more retarded and I've been trying hard to scrub that out of my mind.

Either way it's still 20 farking years without an answer and still sending food.
 
2011-09-05 07:11:33 PM

mjbok: The purge took place in 1992, twelve years before the crash of 815.


40, 20, 12 years is irrelevant.


The fact that they kept on sending food for 12 years while the station went completely dark is retarded.
 
2011-09-05 07:12:41 PM

Tatsuma: mjbok: The purge took place in 1992, twelve years before the crash of 815.

40, 20, 12 years is irrelevant.


The fact that they kept on sending food for 12 years while the station went completely dark is retarded.


The station never went dark. What are you talking about.
 
2011-09-05 07:24:53 PM

DamnYankees: The station never went dark.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Going%20Dark
 
2011-09-05 07:33:30 PM

Tatsuma: And when did we learn that exactly?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Hume
 
2011-09-05 07:53:33 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: Heh. That's how I feel about Christopher Lee in LOTR.

I'm not a Tolkien fanboy, mind you, but I'm still pissed about that because Christopher Lee deserved better than to make way for 30 minutes of battle scenes and 20 minutes of Liv Tyler staring into the camera.


Behrooooz! Don't remember. I didn't start watching 24 until the 4th season so I watched 3 seasons on DVD in like a week and so they sort of run together. I do remember that his mom killed his cutie girlfriend.

Ahhh, gotcha.

Well, in the show, Marwan's henchmen find Behrooz's tracker and take him for "reeducation."

That's the last that we "officially" see of him.


Tatsuma: What on earth are you talking about? 24 ended with Jack riding in the sunset at the end of Season 5 after saving the country, thus earning well deserved rest for the decades to come.

*snert*

I could live with that!


I like to think the last season was a hallucination brought on by the season 8 surgery side effects. In reality, Jack gets the happy ending he deserves.....by getting happy endings from Rack Bauer.
 
2011-09-05 07:54:10 PM

TheManofPA: I like to think the last season was a hallucination brought on by the season 8 surgery side effects. In reality, Jack gets the happy ending he deserves.....by getting happy endings from Rack Bauer.


season 7 sorry
 
2011-09-05 08:12:30 PM
I like the cut of your jib, TheManofPA.
 
2011-09-05 08:12:48 PM

DamnYankees: The station never went dark. What are you talking about.


The fact that food drops were still being done after the destruction of the Flame is stupid.

//The New Man in Charge is either canon or not, you can't pick and choose.
 
2011-09-05 09:14:54 PM

NeoCortex42: Stile4aly: I think the Shanti virus and Peter's girlfriend being stuck in the future were bigger dropped plots than the villains issue. The writers's strike really screwed Heroes over.


FTFY

After the first season, the show was heading downhill regardless of the strike. The strike didn't help, but the subsequent season showed that even without the strike the show was a lost cause. It had so much potential, but the writing was atrocious. I'm pretty sure most episode writers hadn't actually watched the show before based on how much character motivations and powers changes throughout each season.


Most of the fourth season was actually pretty decent, but the show had lost almost all of its viewers by then.

/4th season is even better if you ignore every scene dealing with Claire's personal issues
//But not the ratings-grab lesbo stuff
 
2011-09-05 09:15:46 PM
Article completely fails. Without question, this is number one:

media.avclub.com
 
2011-09-05 09:17:57 PM

eddievercetti: Heroes - Hyping up the whole villains event the whole summer...only to kill them off three episodes in. Shocker the writers strike farked it up or so they say.

Fringe - I forgot about the whole pattern thing. Maybe it was for the best though.


A handful of the villains finally got their day in the sun on the midseason finale, but that's nothing like what we had been promised.

/They fired and replaced the whole writing staff just before that episode was written, and it showed
 
2011-09-05 09:20:01 PM
Well there were unresolved plots in Dr. Who.

For instance in Genesis of the Daleks when Tom Baker refuses to exterminate the Daleks at their inception, saying "I know that someday they will do a great good." Did they ever do anything good???

And then there were the Black & White Guardians. The White Guardian said there would be a third encounter with the Black Guardian, but Valentine Dyall died. What a bummer.

i154.photobucket.com

Oh wait, he was in Terminus??? that makes 3 episodes. Never mind, what a bad geek am I!
 
2011-09-05 09:27:33 PM
To be fair, that Skinner thing wasn't all that egregious for the Simpsons. How many times have Bart and Lisa finished the second and fourth grades? How many summer vacations. Beyond the character's names, one would assume that each episode or season resets the show. Except for the bits too good to drop, like all of Selma's marriages or Sideshow Bob.
 
2011-09-05 09:36:50 PM

mjbok: DamnYankees: The station never went dark. What are you talking about.

The fact that food drops were still being done after the destruction of the Flame is stupid.

//The New Man in Charge is either canon or not, you can't pick and choose.


Meh, not that ridiculous. There was one food drop throughout the entire series, and, IIRC, it was before the Flame was destroyed. The idea of them making one more after its destruction isn't that crazy, anyway. The whole thing was automated partly via the Lamp Post (which was still being manned by the Others) except for the two warehouse workers in Guam who were kept in the dark about everything.
 
2011-09-05 09:38:54 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I can tell you which subplots I'd hope they would drop--the "romance" and "marriage" of LaGuerta and Batista. I'm halfway through season five, and I can't stand either one of them anymore. We're in love; no we're not! Hey, look at all of this money she's keeping from me! That's it! I'm divorcing you!


I'm actually surprised TFA didn't mention Laguerta's crush on Dexter. That was dropped rather quickly


I also seem to be the only one who liked the Arman Tamzarian episode of The Simpsons.
 
2011-09-05 09:40:46 PM
also, every other plot of season 5 of The Office needs to be mentioned.
 
2011-09-05 09:44:09 PM
It sucks that they never elaborated on why Walt was special, but at least there was a very big nod to it in "The New Man In Charge" that strongly implied that he eventually found out all about it.

/Also, Lost is 10x more awesome if you're living on a remote island when you watch it
/I was
 
2011-09-05 10:45:07 PM
Nip/Tuck - Sean's daughter for about 3 seasons and the baby with the deformed hands.
 
2011-09-05 10:50:32 PM
In case no one heard THEY TOOK HS SON!

/WAAAAALT
 
2011-09-05 10:58:05 PM
What happened to the WarePanthers in True Blood?
 
2011-09-05 11:22:15 PM

Fireproof: Meh, not that ridiculous. There was one food drop throughout the entire series, and, IIRC, it was before the Flame was destroyed. The idea of them making one more after its destruction isn't that crazy, anyway. The whole thing was automated partly via the Lamp Post (which was still being manned by the Others) except for the two warehouse workers in Guam who were kept in the dark about everything.


There were was one food drop post crash (and at least one when Desmond was manning the hatch that was shown). Then the Flame was blown up. Food drops were ordered from the Flame. Yet, there is a warehouse that is setting up a food drop that was requested 3 years after the destruction of the Flame. Ben's knowledge of the warehouse (and the ability of the warehouse to send a drone with food to the island) goes against the need and stated purpose of the Lamp Post. Also the need for the O6 to take Ajira to find the island doesn't mesh with the fact that Widmore could just send a sub (unless one of Widmore's people on Ajira set up a beacon and I don't remember that being addressed, but it might have been.)

I loved four seasons of LOST. Thought one season was silly, and thought one season was bad. There are many good things about the show, but there are many either unresolved things or things that had explanations that are inconsistent with what was show previously.
 
2011-09-05 11:30:59 PM

elvindeath: Article completely fails. Without question, this is number one:

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But how do you "resolve" that story without it being completely cheesy? The Russian guy stumbles into the Bing and opens fire?

I do think they should have dealt with the repercussions of that guy being killed or going missing, though. I mean, there is a scene in that episode where the boss of the Russian mob makes it clear to Tony that this guy is very special to him and he would take any harm that came to him personally. And you probably don't want to piss off the Russian mob.

I think for TNG, though the whole "conspiracy" arc was a good choice, I'd have gone with the Warp Factor Speed Limit plot line they set up but just dropped. So what happens is some alien dude and his biatchy sister manage to prove that going over Warp Factor 4 or something like that farks up the universe. So Starfleet actually imposes a speed limit on starships. They even mentioned it after that episode, in that at least once Picard says they have authorization to exceed warp factor limits. But then they realized how stupid that is, and Picard's calling for Maximum Warp just so he can get to the nearest starbase to get some more Earl Gray tea.
 
2011-09-05 11:42:35 PM
Sliders - Professor Arturo is replaced by evil professor
 
2011-09-05 11:51:56 PM

MagSeven: kliq: Everyone help! I've been crammed in Mr. Belding's file cabinet for 20 years!

[media.tumblr.com image 247x320]

What's creepier, Belding following Zack across the country to continue teaching him or Mr. Feeny somehow teaching Corey from Boy Meets World from grade school to college and somehow shadowing him his entire life, albeit in the same town they where neighbors in?


I say Mr. Belding. Corey would periodically mention how it's funny that Mr. Feeny was always around and then before graduation discovered a secret hallway where all the disappeared characters lived.
 
2011-09-06 12:15:59 AM
If you like to read expanded Star Trek universe stuff, the whole parasite thing was fleshed out fully in the "8th Season" of DS9 that started with the "Avatar" 2-parter, and brought to a close, I think, with the book "Unity."
 
2011-09-06 12:31:05 AM

DamnYankees: That's probably because Lost resolved almost all of its subplots.


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (must...breathe) HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Thanks for that, haven't laughed in a while.
 
2011-09-06 12:38:10 AM

CZMisfitsFan: //And I can tell you probably just watched about a season and a half worth of the show, decided it required too much thinking, and picked up tidbits about what happened from other sources.


"Too much thinking" Wowee wow. I watched the whole series, and if you're trying to suggest that Lost didn't have giant Island-sized holes and a million dropped storylines, then...I dunno, man. That's really something. I mean, really. I gotta believe you're a Tea Party local president, amirite?
 
2011-09-06 01:24:17 AM

Really I'm Black: Body-snatching-alien conspiracy, Star Trek: The Next Generation

best. episode. evar. god i love conspiracies.

im disappointed they didnt make this idea into a movie, let alone further tv episodes.

one rumour i heard was that this race was originally what the writers conceived to be what eventually became the borg. if so, i guess it can be forgiven, the borg were pretty cool.


For what it's worth, in the books following the end of DS9 they pick the idea back up and it's actually an even bigger conspiracy than originally thought, as the parasites originated with a Federation species that kept it concealed
 
2011-09-06 02:34:29 AM

somemoron: Speaking of dropped plots... remember the cartoon Rocky & Bullwinkle? Remember how at the end of every show they would tell you to tune in next week for (wild plot synopsis)?

NEVER ONCE DID THEY COME THROUGH! NOT ONCE! AAARGGGGHHHHH!!!!

\I thought TV was showing all the episodes out of order and was all mad, because the (plot synopsis) sounded so much cooler than the show I just watched.


Battlestar Galactica did the same thing in reverse. On their 'Previously, on Battlestar Galactica' they would show scenes that never made the final aired cut. When I was watching it week-by-week on TV, this made me think I had missed episodes somehow, or at least had some sort of blackout/time loss during the last episode.

When I watched them all in a row on DVD, I realised that no, they were just fracking with me.
 
2011-09-06 05:56:13 AM

Iceberg659: Sliders - Professor Arturo is replaced by evil professor


Well that one's simple... Evil professor got his brain sucked out, and blew up. Good professor is back on Azure Gate Bridge world.

Sure, it's technically unresolved, but all the pieces are there to put together.
 
2011-09-06 07:30:23 AM

somemoron: I thought that Conspiracy was a good arc for the first season. The Bord definitely replaced it what with the "They're coming!" bit, but I would have liked to see that arc continued, even if it was much later.


I read somewhere that originally the Starfleet Conspiracy wasn't due to an infestation of
alien thingies but a real conspiracy of Starfleet officers, but that when Gene Roddenberry
read the script he declared that in the 24th century humans wouldn't do that sort of
thing any more, so they patched it up with the alien infestation.
 
2011-09-06 07:35:39 AM

DjangoStonereaver: somemoron: I thought that Conspiracy was a good arc for the first season. The Bord definitely replaced it what with the "They're coming!" bit, but I would have liked to see that arc continued, even if it was much later.

I read somewhere that originally the Starfleet Conspiracy wasn't due to an infestation of
alien thingies but a real conspiracy of Starfleet officers, but that when Gene Roddenberry
read the script he declared that in the 24th century humans wouldn't do that sort of
thing any more, so they patched it up with the alien infestation.


Probably.

I'd wager that most of the crap in the first two seasons was mostly Roddenberry's doing.

His franchise had outgrown him. He wanted this PC pacifist bullshiat future, when the big money was being made over in the Trek movies, which were naval battles in space.

However, the guys who got TNG after him (Berman and Piller, IIRC), and the DS9 crew showed what Trek could be without someone who was buying into his own hype as the "Great Bird of the Galaxy" running the show.

/We'll not speak of how Berman buying into his own hype ruined Trek for generations to come.
 
2011-09-06 08:40:36 AM

Riotboy: What happened to the WarePanthers in True Blood?


still 1 episode left this season, might show up again. I'm still shocked Jason didn't turn. I think Jason as a vampire would be awesome, so I hope Jessica turns him.

/they need to do a better job of showing how much stronger Eric is compared to Bill. Last season you could tell Russell was superior to everyone.
//I have no idea what the cliff hanger is going to be this season, maybe they show Jason starting to turn finally?
 
2011-09-06 09:16:44 AM
The ones that sprang to my mind were:

-The temporal cold war on that crapfest "Enterprise," which was a main plot until the Xindi were manufactured to try and get viewers... then they didn't even say who the shadowy guy was;

- On Heroes, super nice-guy Peter leaving his Irish GF in a hellish alternate future and not even mentioning her again (I know, the writer's strike was the reason for dropping the plots planned for the unmade second part of the season, but really... they could have at least mentioned her...);

- Chuck Cunningham on Happy Days (Richie and Joanie's lost brother from the first season; after that they always said it was a 2-kid family);

I could prob come up with more, but that'll do for now...
 
2011-09-06 09:19:32 AM

elvindeath: Article completely fails. Without question, this is number one:

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People often don't believe me, but that was actually the one and only episode of the Sopranos I ever watched, and I saw it the night it aired. And here I always hear about how it was one of the best ones they did. It was okay, but I never got into it enough to watch another one...
 
2011-09-06 09:21:22 AM

puckrock2000:
And everyone forgets the most notorious dropped subplot from ST:TOS:
What the hell happened to Lt. Dave Bailey?



Yeah, and how about that Khan guy? They should have done something more with him. Maybe get him some Corinithian leather or a midget or something.
 
2011-09-06 09:27:21 AM
They are just TV shows, you should all really relax.
 
2011-09-06 10:06:10 AM
LordOfThePings
>>> TheOther: I thought Janeway was exiled to the Delta Quadrant
>>> because she was the new hive queen?

I thought it was because nobody in the Alpha Quadrant could stand her voice./quote]

SFdebris fans?
 
2011-09-06 10:07:36 AM
NeoCortex42

... Walt was mostly useful to the Others because they needed children to replenish their population due to the pregnancy issue....

No, they could (and were) leaving the island any time they wanted. If they wanted 'new blood' they could recruit / procreate off-island and bring them back.
 
2011-09-06 10:08:32 AM

Type40: They are just TV shows, you should all really relax.


You butchered it. Repeat to yourself it's just a show...
 
2011-09-06 10:26:30 AM

NJP2007: Ignores one of the biggest dropped subplots - Richie's "older" brother on "Happy Days." And there's a similar story, apocryphal I think, about one of the daytime soaps circa late 50's or early '60's wherein a peripheral character excuses him or herself to go upstairs to bed - and never comes down. Years later, the head writer gets a letter from a confused viewer wondered just when said sleeping character will be making a reappearance.


I don't know if we're thinking of the same thing but I remember something similar in the mid-70s. I used to watch All My Children and one day, a 12-yo Tad Martin went upstairs to polish his skis. He was never heard from again for something like 10 years, when Michael Knight showed up as full-grown Tad. I think he's now a central character on the show.
 
2011-09-06 10:41:41 AM

brigid_fitch: I don't know if we're thinking of the same thing but I remember something similar in the mid-70s. I used to watch All My Children and one day, a 12-yo Tad Martin went upstairs to polish his skis. He was never heard from again for something like 10 years, when Michael Knight showed up as full-grown Tad. I think he's now a central character on the show.


Depending on how old you are this is probably not the right one. Tad (as portrayed by the current actor) started on the show in 1982. He had appeared as a child earlier, but that was in the 70's I believe.

You want to hear something funny? David Hasselhoff's wife left him for...Michael Knight. True story.
 
2011-09-06 10:42:43 AM

Ex Parte Gilligan: DamnYankees: The West Wing - Sam loses. This is made pretty obvious. He leaves the White House knowing he will lose and presumably does. What more is there to say?

Yeah, I was gonna say... They had that scene in the bar with Sam and Toby, where the latter tells the former, it's over and Toby didn't want Sam to just twist in the wind alone. The entire show made it pretty clear you're either in or you're out, and if you lose an election you're just gone. That's one thing I liked about the Sorkin Years: A distinct lack of sentimentality when it came to winners and losers.


I agree that it is crystal clear that Sam loses. My problem was always with the fact that he was never really mentioned again until the last season after being such an integral part of the administration. Bartlett had said that Sam would one day run for President, Sam left to run in Orange County knowing he would lose and the leave of absence was only supposed to be temporary and Sam was going to come back as a Senior Counselor to the President.

While I understand that Sam could easily pass on the senior counselor and want to take a break from politics (to earn a salary as an attorney that would make Josh puke), his "contact" with the staff following his departure was so infrequent to the point of unbelievability. Toby trusted almost nobody but he trusted Sam, Josh was his best friend, he referred to Donna as one of his best friends, Sam and CJ were extremely close, etc. It was unbelievable that he wouldn't have more contact with the staff (other than the once a season reference they made to him in seasons 5 and 6) on either a professional or personal level even if it was off-screen.
 
2011-09-06 10:43:20 AM
The Deadwood one on the list doesn't even make much sense. Two characters show up in the Camp, have a little adventure and then leave and people say goodbye to them. How exactly is that unresolved? Especially when the show was cancelled at the end of the season.

As far as Lost goes, I don't even really mind the fact that so much of it went unresolved, since way more about the island was explained to me the viewer, then was explained to the Losties who made it off the island at the end of the final episode. I can totally picture Sawyer sitting on the plane and just cleaning out the bar and trying to figure out what the hell happened to him those past few years.
 
2011-09-06 10:53:26 AM

mjbok: brigid_fitch: I don't know if we're thinking of the same thing but I remember something similar in the mid-70s. I used to watch All My Children and one day, a 12-yo Tad Martin went upstairs to polish his skis. He was never heard from again for something like 10 years, when Michael Knight showed up as full-grown Tad. I think he's now a central character on the show.

Depending on how old you are this is probably not the right one. Tad (as portrayed by the current actor) started on the show in 1982. He had appeared as a child earlier, but that was in the 70's I believe.

You want to hear something funny? David Hasselhoff's wife left him for...Michael Knight. True story.


That's exactly what I mean. I watched the kid go upstairs to polish his skis in the mid-70s & he was never even referred to again for almost a decade until Michael Knight showed up. The character just dropped off the face of the planet until the early 80s and we were all like, "Damn, those skis must be REALLY shiny!"
 
2011-09-06 11:14:18 AM

Riotboy: What happened to the WarePanthers in True Blood?


What about them? They're in Hot Shot being led by Crystal. They'll probably show up again next year when none of the babies change during the full moon.

Now, if you'd asked about the fairies, that would make more sense. They show up halfway through last season, turn all evil this season, Eric eats Claudia, and...? What about the rest of stupid fairyland, why did Claudia come back & command Sookie to go with her? What's with the cryptic, "He'll take your light" from last season? THAT'S a dropped plotline. If they drop it for good, they'll be doing us a favor. Unless they do the full-blown fairy war from the 9th book, there's no reason for it.

/It's a shame what they did w/the Hot Shot storyline from the books. Harris actually had some really nice characters in there & a decent plot.
//Well, except for turning Jason into a werepanther. That was just stupid.
 
2011-09-06 11:45:12 AM

OnlyM3: NeoCortex42

... Walt was mostly useful to the Others because they needed children to replenish their population due to the pregnancy issue....
No, they could (and were) leaving the island any time they wanted. If they wanted 'new blood' they could recruit / procreate off-island and bring them back.


That would probably be an option if the wanted (like they brought Juliet), but they probably prefer children so they can raise them as they choose. There's a big difference between recruiting people off-island to voluntarily come and kidnapping children off-island.
 
2011-09-06 12:45:10 PM
I'd like to add the robot ninjas from Angel. I'm sure this got dropped because the show ended, but that was just random and needed further exploring to make any sense.

Also on Voyager, whatever happened to the Equinox crew they picked up?

What bothers me more are changed plot lines that create continuity errors.

Like on Roseanne, when she got pregnant, they said she was going to have a baby girl and there was an episode about how it might turn out retarded or disabled because she was on the old side for having a baby. Then she had the baby and it was a healthy boy.

Or on Full House how Uncle Jesse's last name was originall Cockran or something and then they changed it to Contapoulus. I'm not sure what the point of that was.

Yah I used to watch a lot of Nick at Night.

Or on Voyager in the episode Before and After Kes warns Janeway about the Kremin and how they're going to almost destroy Voyager and how Janeway must avoid them at all costs. Then when Janeway encounters the Kremin in Year of Hell it's like she's never heard of them before. I guess with ST you can always justify these things with alternative timelines/realities, but that has always bothered me.


For some reason I'm at a loss to thinking of other ones other than stray family members that disappear or get replaced on sitcoms, but those are so well known they're not worth mentioning.
 
2011-09-06 01:28:36 PM

mechgreg: The Deadwood one on the list doesn't even make much sense. Two characters show up in the Camp, have a little adventure and then leave and people say goodbye to them. How exactly is that unresolved? Especially when the show was cancelled at the end of the season.


Not to mention the show is 1) based on a book and 2) based vaguely on what real people did. As per the book, the Earps stay in Deadwood was very brief, and in reality it might not have even been that. This is like complaining that they killed Wild Bill too early.
 
2011-09-06 01:36:04 PM

kliq: Everyone help! I've been crammed in Mr. Belding's file cabinet for 20 years!


That's not true, Freddy Kruger turned her into a cockroach.
 
2011-09-06 02:07:53 PM

Tatsuma: 9. Julien's gay lifestyle, The Shield.


Never watched The Shield, but I was surprised they never worked Rawl's being gay into the plot of The Wire.


Cutchaholic: What about Joan's roommate from "Mad Men"?


Or Peggy's? Mmmm...Carla Gallo.....
 
2011-09-06 04:44:57 PM

Uptown Hipster Doofus: Tatsuma: 9. Julien's gay lifestyle, The Shield.

Never watched The Shield, but I was surprised they never worked Rawl's being gay into the plot of The Wire.


Cutchaholic: What about Joan's roommate from "Mad Men"?

Or Peggy's? Mmmm...Carla Gallo.....


www.newsgab.com
 
2011-09-06 05:13:16 PM
I'll just leave this here. Let me guess, Lost apologists: All those questions were answered and we're just too dumb to "get it". Link (new window)
 
2011-09-06 05:25:19 PM
So is there anything about the photos that Precious gave Dusty?
 
2011-09-06 10:22:53 PM
I've always wondered why the King of the Hill subplot about Peggy trying to get pregnant was dropped rather unceremoniously. I know it had something to do with the episode where she falls out of the plane, though it seemed like an odd excuse to drop the plot.
 
2011-09-07 08:59:40 AM

eddiesocket: I'll just leave this here. Let me guess, Lost apologists: All those questions were answered and we're just too dumb to "get it". Link (new window)


Some of those were legit, but a lot were either answered or not important. For instance: "Who was Libby's husband that gave her a boat?" Who cares? She had a dead husband that left her a boat. Desmond needed a boat. That's all that was important. Or for an answered one: "Why did Horace lead Locke to the cabin to find Jacob?" The MiB was manipulating Locke throughout the series. It makes sense that he would send Locke somewhere to have a face-to-face with him. If Locke is convinced that he's talking to Jacob, and more importantly that it was he that decided to seek Jacob out, then Locke would be easier to manipulate.

I'll never try to insist that Lost is a perfect show when it comes to wrapping things up, but considering that it was a seven season show that had to deal with a a network, a pool of writers, and the whims of the cast, I think they did an amazing job with it. There are a few things I would have liked it to do differently, but I'm happy with what we ended up with. I'm currently rewatching the show for the first time since the finale (just finished season 3), and I think it holds together quite well overall.
 
2011-09-07 10:53:22 AM

NeoCortex42: Or for an answered one: "Why did Horace lead Locke to the cabin to find Jacob?" The MiB was manipulating Locke throughout the series. It makes sense that he would send Locke somewhere to have a face-to-face with him. If Locke is convinced that he's talking to Jacob, and more importantly that it was he that decided to seek Jacob out, then Locke would be easier to manipulate.


I agree with your assessment that some of it was answered, and some of it was unimportant, but the example quoted above actually has a few questions about it. Why was Horace (MIB) in a temporal loop? Also, why did he start bleeding? The bleeding one (based on later events with being unstuck in time) actually leads to one of my biggest pet peeves about LOST: there were so many red-herrings and misdirections that served no purpose.

NeoCortex42: I'm currently rewatching the show for the first time since the finale (just finished season 3), and I think it holds together quite well overall.


I've been doing this also, but the thing that has bothered me is the inconsistencies that creep up knowing the total picture.
 
2011-09-07 12:12:14 PM

mjbok: NeoCortex42: Or for an answered one: "Why did Horace lead Locke to the cabin to find Jacob?" The MiB was manipulating Locke throughout the series. It makes sense that he would send Locke somewhere to have a face-to-face with him. If Locke is convinced that he's talking to Jacob, and more importantly that it was he that decided to seek Jacob out, then Locke would be easier to manipulate.

I agree with your assessment that some of it was answered, and some of it was unimportant, but the example quoted above actually has a few questions about it. Why was Horace (MIB) in a temporal loop? Also, why did he start bleeding? The bleeding one (based on later events with being unstuck in time) actually leads to one of my biggest pet peeves about LOST: there were so many red-herrings and misdirections that served no purpose.

NeoCortex42: I'm currently rewatching the show for the first time since the finale (just finished season 3), and I think it holds together quite well overall.

I've been doing this also, but the thing that has bothered me is the inconsistencies that creep up knowing the total picture.


Of all the holes and inconsistencies, the fact that Jack, Kate, and Hurley went back in time while Sun, Ben, and the rest did not and this was never explained or even questioned pissed me off the most.
 
2011-09-07 01:37:19 PM
Ex Parte Gilligan: DamnYankees: The West Wing - Sam loses. This is made pretty obvious. He leaves the White House knowing he will lose and presumably does. What more is there to say?

Yeah, I was gonna say... They had that scene in the bar with Sam and Toby, where the latter tells the former, it's over and Toby didn't want Sam to just twist in the wind alone. The entire show made it pretty clear you're either in or you're out, and if you lose an election you're just gone. That's one thing I liked about the Sorkin Years: A distinct lack of sentimentality when it came to winners and losers.

I agree that it is crystal clear that Sam loses. My problem was always with the fact that he was never really mentioned again until the last season after being such an integral part of the administration. Bartlett had said that Sam would one day run for President, Sam left to run in Orange County knowing he would lose and the leave of absence was only supposed to be temporary and Sam was going to come back as a Senior Counselor to the President.

While I understand that Sam could easily pass on the senior counselor and want to take a break from politics (to earn a salary as an attorney that would make Josh puke), his "contact" with the staff following his departure was so infrequent to the point of unbelievability. Toby trusted almost nobody but he trusted Sam, Josh was his best friend, he referred to Donna as one of his best friends, Sam and CJ were extremely close, etc. It was unbelievable that he wouldn't have more contact with the staff (other than the once a season reference they made to him in seasons 5 and 6) on either a professional or personal level even if it was off-screen.


I seem to remember President Bartlett saying something along the lines of making Sam Attorney General after he loses the election, as Will Bailey was now the Deputy Communications Director
 
2011-09-07 02:44:00 PM

eddiesocket: mjbok: NeoCortex42: Or for an answered one: "Why did Horace lead Locke to the cabin to find Jacob?" The MiB was manipulating Locke throughout the series. It makes sense that he would send Locke somewhere to have a face-to-face with him. If Locke is convinced that he's talking to Jacob, and more importantly that it was he that decided to seek Jacob out, then Locke would be easier to manipulate.

I agree with your assessment that some of it was answered, and some of it was unimportant, but the example quoted above actually has a few questions about it. Why was Horace (MIB) in a temporal loop? Also, why did he start bleeding? The bleeding one (based on later events with being unstuck in time) actually leads to one of my biggest pet peeves about LOST: there were so many red-herrings and misdirections that served no purpose.

NeoCortex42: I'm currently rewatching the show for the first time since the finale (just finished season 3), and I think it holds together quite well overall.

I've been doing this also, but the thing that has bothered me is the inconsistencies that creep up knowing the total picture.

Of all the holes and inconsistencies, the fact that Jack, Kate, and Hurley went back in time while Sun, Ben, and the rest did not and this was never explained or even questioned pissed me off the most.


For the Horace thing, I can't remember the circumstances exactly. It could have just been MiB screwing with Locke with a dream/vision. Also a bit of plot foreshadowing for the viewer.

I'll agree with the problem about some going back in time and others not. I figured it worked the same as how Sawyer's group went back when the wheel was turned while the Others did not. There was never any explanation given, which is annoying, but I guess I can let it go with "only the people that needed to go back went back." It's a bit of a lame explanation, but it kind of works on the level that Jacob might have some control/influence over fate. Maybe he was able to control who traveled. I'll admit that it was one "question" that I kind of had to ignore in the end.

The one that bugs me the most, and will probably annoy me the most when I get the that point of the rewatch, is the outrigger chase. I'm really ticked that we didn't get the payoff of seeing the other side of the chase. I thought it would have been great to kill off one of the Losties by having them get shot by the time-traveling group. It wouldn't have been that hard to set up, but Damon & Carlton pretty much abandoned it.
 
2011-09-07 04:45:18 PM

NeoCortex42: For the Horace thing, I can't remember the circumstances exactly. It could have just been MiB screwing with Locke with a dream/vision. Also a bit of plot foreshadowing for the viewer.


Horace is basically in a loop saying the same thing and (I think) chopping down the same tree. He says something about John talking to someone who has been dead for 30 years (don't remember the number of years) and he has a nose bleed. It's safe to say it's smokey, but why would he direct John to the cabin? Also the nose bleed is a red herring when paired with the unstuck in time nonsense.
 
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