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2011-09-05 01:01:20 AM  
You mean brother Seamus?
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2011-09-05 01:01:22 AM  

I Like Bread: This guy along with Brendan Behan are my namesake.


I live quite near a pub called the Brendan Behan. It's a super-cool place.
 
2011-09-05 01:05:07 AM  

Dialectic: No, you be wrong, it was the Chinese (new window), dawgs!


I just submitted a story based on the Chinese landing in California in the 1430's, and being in charge of most of the southwest during the 1870's. It's for an anthology of alternate westerns...
 
2011-09-05 01:05:33 AM  
If anyone is interested in the truth about what a fraud Christopher Columbus was, read this

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281/r e f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315199024&sr=8-1

Long story short he was a vicious tyrant who slaughtered and enslaved the Indians and ransacked the the place. Might as well have a Holiday named after Jeffrey Dahmer.
 
2011-09-05 01:06:58 AM  
Huh. According to this (new window), it looks like Desoto was first to "discover" the continental US in 1539. He blazed through the deep south.

Coronado followed a couple years later in the southwest.

Cabrillo in 1542 sailed up the California coast.

Hudson checked out the New Jersey area in 1609.

Desoto wuz robbed.
 
2011-09-05 01:08:03 AM  

spman: If anyone is interested in the truth about what a fraud Christopher Columbus was, read this

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281/r e f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315199024&sr=8-1

Long story short he was a vicious tyrant who slaughtered and enslaved the Indians and ransacked the the place. Might as well have a Holiday named after Jeffrey Dahmer.


Indians don't have souls like white men, so it's okay.
 
2011-09-05 01:09:21 AM  
Ric Rømerø repørting?
 
2011-09-05 01:09:30 AM  
Speaking of world travel, lager beer was first brewed around 1400 when a new variety of yeast came along in Germany. In recent times efforts to discover the source of the yeast went nowhere. Until recently when it was found. In Patagonia.

Captain_Ballbeard: sliding it down sand dunes

That would be nice, if that's what they did.
 
2011-09-05 01:10:53 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: Edipis: and Kennewick man may have discovered it even earlier. and dinosaurs much earlier than that. moss was even earlier, and don't even get me started on the base protists.

Oh, so non-whites are on par with moss? Thanks.


Moss has never taken over my neighborhood or mugged me. So, nope. Not at all on par.

//One decent troll deserves another... :)
 
2011-09-05 01:14:46 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: bigworld2000: /why do we celebrate Columbus?

Same reason we celebrate the Wright Brothers for being the first to "fly", "flight" meaning to take a glider with a motor on it all the way from Ohio to the Kitty Hawk NC and sliding it down sand dunes into an offshore wind and claiming "powered takeoff". If the Wright Brothers could have flown, they would have done so in Ohio.


You mean like they did the very next spring after the Kitty Hawk flight?

/rest of post too ridiculous to bother with
 
2011-09-05 01:16:39 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: Edipis: and Kennewick man may have discovered it even earlier. and dinosaurs much earlier than that. moss was even earlier, and don't even get me started on the base protists.

Oh, so non-whites are on par with moss? Thanks.


you missed my point, bevets.
 
2011-09-05 01:18:01 AM  
Ah so, not only are we a Christian nation, apparently we also inhabit a Christian continent!!
 
2011-09-05 01:18:53 AM  
spman: who slaughtered and enslaved the Indians and ransacked the the place.

Doesn't make him a fraud. Just makes him a man of his time. And he spent far more effort writing about possibly enslaving some of the natives, than he ever did on actually enslaving them. And the ransacking was thanks to the first Spanish governor in the region, a fellow by the name of Francisco de Bobadilla.
 
2011-09-05 01:21:20 AM  

Evil Canadian: The St Brendan story is really not new. Certainly the National Geographic story back in the 70s proved it possible. I have a tendency to believe that others were earlier than the Norse - people did travel back then. I suspect that there was a fair amount of travel that we haven't heard about yet.

The Norse sagas are pretty clear that there were previous inhabitants in Iceland (which they killed off). In a fit of total speculation, Farley Mowat, who I mostly respect (West Viking etc), suggested that there were "Alban" settlements along the Labrador coast that far predate the Viking visits. Here is a linky (new window) It's totally unsupported speculation, but it was a fun read, and it just shows it could be possible, just as the St Brendan stories could be possible.

I was a tad disappointed by the article - hoped for EVIDENCE because I do believe that humans have been travelling creatively for a lot longer than we realize, but IANAA (I am not an Archaeologist).


If these Jakatars are the remnants of a european(even pre celt) colony, it would be a simple thing to prove a connection with language, if their "native" language still has any speakers, or documentation. Indo-European is quite distinctive.
 
2011-09-05 01:21:23 AM  

WhyteRaven74: spman: who slaughtered and enslaved the Indians and ransacked the the place.

Doesn't make him a fraud. Just makes him a man of his time. And he spent far more effort writing about possibly enslaving some of the natives, than he ever did on actually enslaving them. And the ransacking was thanks to the first Spanish governor in the region, a fellow by the name of Francisco de Bobadilla.


Given the behavior of the Germans in the next two centuries, Columbus would be considered almost tame. But what really made him a fraud was the fact that he pretended to discover the new world, based upon Chinese maps he possessed.
 
2011-09-05 01:26:18 AM  

spman: Long story short he was a vicious tyrant who slaughtered and enslaved the Indians and ransacked the the place. Might as well have a Holiday named after Jeffrey Dahmer.


This isn't exactly a secret. If you're in for exposing another great big lie historians have been covering up, read up on Cortes. Turns out he didn't win over the Aztecs by giving the men lollipops and the women their first real orgasms.
 
2011-09-05 01:26:53 AM  

rebelyell2006: WhyteRaven74: spman: who slaughtered and enslaved the Indians and ransacked the the place.

Doesn't make him a fraud. Just makes him a man of his time. And he spent far more effort writing about possibly enslaving some of the natives, than he ever did on actually enslaving them. And the ransacking was thanks to the first Spanish governor in the region, a fellow by the name of Francisco de Bobadilla.

Given the behavior of the Germans in the next two centuries, Columbus would be considered almost tame. But what really made him a fraud was the fact that he pretended to discover the new world, based upon Chinese maps he possessed.


He also underestimated the circumference of the planet by about five thousand miles or so.

The Spanish had just come off of their centuries-long Reconquista of the Iberian Peninsula. It was completed in 1492. With the Ottomans in control of the Silk Road after the fall of the Byzantines, they desperately wanted to cut out the Muslim middleman in the spice trade. All this explains why they were so brutal.

This has been your Fark History Minute(tm).
 
2011-09-05 01:29:10 AM  
I'm still of the mind that the people who actually lived here for thousands of years while Europeans were still living in caves actually "discovered" the place.
 
2011-09-05 01:32:04 AM  

GAT_00: Perhaps. I hadn't heard of this one before, but it isn't impossible. Irish, English, Basque and French from Brittany and Normandy had been fishing in the Grand Banks for centuries. They didn't tell anyone because it was then an apparently inexhaustible source of fish.


This, the Basques were known as the most west ranging fisherman in Europe, they were probably there fishing first or at least the longest.

There have been stories about Irish monks and Irish fisherman hitting North America in historial journals and discovery texts for the last 50-60 years.

My money is on the Basques, Irish and everyone else looking for Cod finding it and ignoring it, it was just the Vikings who decided to try and live there.
 
2011-09-05 01:33:01 AM  

karmaceutical: I'm still of the mind that the people who actually lived here for thousands of years while Europeans were still living in caves actually "discovered" the place.


Naw, the Native Americans are more along the lines of the hipsters of culture, they liked
America before it was cool, man
 
2011-09-05 01:33:53 AM  

karmaceutical: I'm still of the mind that the people who actually lived here for thousands of years while Europeans were still living in caves actually "discovered" the place.


that's because you're dumb and have a nonexistent grasp on paleoanthropology.
 
2011-09-05 01:36:22 AM  

makaz: You mean brother Seamus?
[ecdn0.hark.com image 480x368]


came for this, now fark off Da Fino
 
2011-09-05 01:38:11 AM  

neongoats:
If these Jakatars are the remnants of a european(even pre celt) colony, it would be a simple thing to prove a connection with language, if their "native" language still has any speakers, or documentation. Indo-European is quite distinctive.


I also would be very interested also to see the DNA analyses on this. I mean, I would love to have my father's mtDNA analysed, but that's impossible as he was the only child of an only child mother and there are no survivors of that line. Our suspicion on that is proof of indigenous north american, which is sorta documented but not proven.

Meanwhile, my Mom's mothers mothers mothers ..... mtDNA stayed in the same general area for 50,000 years and only showed up in my family in North American in the late 1950s with the birth of my eldest cousin. Mom's Mom's family is Anglo Indian, and the DNA proves this.

When it comes to human migration though, I am very interested to find out how mtDNA haplogroup X ended up in the indigenous population of North America - it is pretty widespread around the world, but in North American ends up in the Algonquian tribes more than any other, but is associated with north Europe and the Middle East more than Asia.

I suspect the stories we have been told, and the evidence found to date greatly underestimates the ability of even Paleo humans to travel far further than we can imagine. It's not like these were brainless people - while they didn't have even 6th century tech, they certainly were able to do enough to survive and thrive in a hostile world. Why not boats?

/I am still not an Archaeologist, but I work with them.
//Linguistics is VERY cool, but DNA is just as interesting.
 
2011-09-05 01:38:39 AM  

Sgt. Pepper: The account talks of Brendan's experiences, including his being pelted with rock from an island of fire, seeing a pillar of crystal and encountering a moving island before finally coming upon the Promised Land, which came to be referred to as the Fortunate Islands.

Well, this seems entirely plausible.


Iceland? Greenalnd? Icebergs near Newfoundland? Yeah, it is quite accurate.
 
2011-09-05 01:38:48 AM  

The Fark Filter: You mean like they did the very next spring after the Kitty Hawk flight?


Why take ones "aeroplane" 4 states away then? Why not just fly that magnificent flying machine right from Ohio?

Wright Bros almost cost us the World Wars, by sitting on patents (many for things they never actually produced) and strangling innovation in American aviation, the Fed had to step in and put an end to their asshattery and allow actual engineers and innovators to pull our ass out of the fire.

Wright Brothers were drunk rich kids who did NOTHING with what they allegedly achieved, which really amounted to nothing more than stealing ideas from those around them - copiers, not innovators, like the Chicom you people so love.

propaganda, i see u like the taste of it.

/they always tell on themselves
//why take it from Ohio to North Carolina
///crickets
 
2011-09-05 01:41:23 AM  
Just saying... (new window)
 
2011-09-05 01:41:27 AM  

Evil Canadian: it's my father's people who walked over the land bridge who got here first....


Land bridge, hell. You can walk or drive across on the ice every winter even now. It's only about 58 miles with a couple islands in the middle to camp on and chances to catch seals or whales at breathing holes along the way. Watch out for bears. But I agree the First People came here as much as maybe 20,000 years ago, anybody know the real number?

As for who was here second, check out the Red Paint people, 7000 years ago, from East Coast Americas to West Coast Europe.
 
2011-09-05 01:42:15 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: Edipis: and Kennewick man may have discovered it even earlier. and dinosaurs much earlier than that. moss was even earlier, and don't even get me started on the base protists.

Oh, so non-whites are on par with moss? Thanks.


Hey, he was really lazy the last few years, but when he was with Culpepper my fantasy team was unbeatable.
 
2011-09-05 01:43:44 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: The Fark Filter: You mean like they did the very next spring after the Kitty Hawk flight?

Why take ones "aeroplane" 4 states away then? Why not just fly that magnificent flying machine right from Ohio?

Wright Bros almost cost us the World Wars, by sitting on patents (many for things they never actually produced) and strangling innovation in American aviation, the Fed had to step in and put an end to their asshattery and allow actual engineers and innovators to pull our ass out of the fire.

Wright Brothers were drunk rich kids who did NOTHING with what they allegedly achieved, which really amounted to nothing more than stealing ideas from those around them - copiers, not innovators, like the Chicom you people so love.

propaganda, i see u like the taste of it.

/they always tell on themselves
//why take it from Ohio to North Carolina
///crickets


u forgot building 7
 
2011-09-05 01:44:45 AM  

RexTalionis: You mean except for the Vikings, which predated him by another 500 years, like the article says.


I thought people from france came over 14000 years ago. skipped along the ice flows. were the first americans.
 
2011-09-05 01:44:56 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: bigworld2000: /why do we celebrate Columbus?

Same reason we celebrate the Wright Brothers for being the first to "fly", "flight" meaning to take a glider with a motor on it all the way from Ohio to the Kitty Hawk NC and sliding it down sand dunes into an offshore wind and claiming "powered takeoff". If the Wright Brothers could have flown, they would have done so in Ohio.

Called propaganda.


Nope, it's called history. They were not the first to be airborne but were the first to fly in any meaningful sense. They were the first to have a powered aircraft that actually worked and wasn't just a kite soaring down a hill. Their gliders were test beds for the technology needed to make an aircraft. The Kitty Hawk flights were the first aircraft to takeoff under its own power, fly, and land at the same elevation. The dunes were for the gliders where they developed controls for the plane. The plane took off from flat land near the dunes. Prior to that, gliders had no flight controls. The Wrights chose Kitty Hawk for a number of reasons; strong, reliable winds, soft ground to land on, dunes to practice flying with gliders, etc.
 
2011-09-05 01:45:34 AM  
rebelyell2006 2011-09-05 01:21:23 AM
But what really made him a fraud was the fact that he pretended to discover the new world, based upon Chinese maps he possessed.

Chinese maps? Where did you get that one? From Menzies' 1421 book? That guy pulls almost as much stuff out of his ass as Erich Von Daniken (Chariots of the Gods). Most of his conclusions are unsupportable or has been proven as fake.
 
2011-09-05 01:47:11 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: The Fark Filter: You mean like they did the very next spring after the Kitty Hawk flight?

Why take ones "aeroplane" 4 states away then? Why not just fly that magnificent flying machine right from Ohio?


One of the classic mistakes a troll makes: when they get a nibble, instead of getting more subtle, they go full on crazy.
 
2011-09-05 01:47:50 AM  

SirEattonHogg: rebelyell2006 2011-09-05 01:21:23 AM
But what really made him a fraud was the fact that he pretended to discover the new world, based upon Chinese maps he possessed.

Chinese maps? Where did you get that one? From Menzies' 1421 book? That guy pulls almost as much stuff out of his ass as Erich Von Daniken (Chariots of the Gods). Most of his conclusions are unsupportable or has been proven as fake.


I was always under the impression it was the Basques who had the charts.
 
2011-09-05 01:49:29 AM  

RatMaster999: Ok, this is OLD news. I've heard this story for a long time. Brendan may have been the first modern European to venture over here since the Solutreans. However, he was followed by many others.

Yes, the vikings.

The Basques had been fishing the waters off New England and Nova Scotia for centuries before Columbus. He certainly knew there was something here, he just hoped to claim it and find the way around to Asia at the same time.

There's also the theory that the Micmac legendary figure Glooskap is Henry Sinclair, who supposedly came here in the early 1400's, perhaps with a fleet of Templars.

[static.howstuffworks.com image 400x300]

Also, this doesn't look like an Ogam script I've seen before...


I think you may want to look that word up again.
 
2011-09-05 01:51:59 AM  
The proof in the pudding, as it were, that the Wright Bros were little more than thieves and marketing frauds, language in agreement between Orville Wright's estate and Smithsonian Museum:

"Neither the Smithsonian Institution or its successors, nor any museum or other agency, bureau or facilities administered for the United States of America by the Smithsonian Institution or its successors shall publish or permit to be displayed a statement or label in connection with or in respect of any aircraft model or design of earlier date than the Wright Aeroplane of 1903, claiming in effect that such aircraft was capable of carrying a man under its own power in controlled flight."


hmmmmm
 
2011-09-05 01:52:56 AM  
Aliens were here first!! The former History channel told me so!!!
 
2011-09-05 01:55:12 AM  

The Fark Filter: One of the classic mistakes a troll makes: when they get a nibble, instead of getting more subtle, they go full on crazy.



Crazy reporting for duty Sir!

Can you answer my question, why take the craft to another locale? Is the NC coast not known for steady offshore winds (aiding in lift)? Did they take off from straight and level? Or did they ski down tracks laid on sand dunes?
 
2011-09-05 01:56:03 AM  
we celebrate Columbus because he's on the official record of being the guy who tripped over the place while looking for something completely different and by proxy, leading to the eventual actual European conquest and colonization of region.

and of course.. he rhymes..

HAHA!! no no.. not like the Beastie Boys! silly...

y'know... in the year 1492.. Columbus sailed the ocean blue?

See! just like Paul Revere!

wait... maybe he IS just like the Beastie boys!
 
2011-09-05 01:56:58 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: Also, this doesn't look like an Ogam script I've seen before...

I think you may want to look that word up again.



Maybe you got it backwards

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-09-05 01:57:14 AM  

spman: http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281/r e f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315199024&sr=8-1


Yep, got to read some of his original writings in college. He was terrible. No idea why we celebrate it.

Also, loved this bit from the comments section:

" For example, from the Civil War until around 1890, real racial progress was underway in the United States and civil rights laws were Federally enforced in the South. The military was integrated and former slaves had the right to vote, serve on juries and as witnesses in trials, own property and operate businesses. They also received mandatory public education, which was automatically extended to white children for the first time in the south. But, between 1890 and 1920, the Feds gradually disengaged and allowed southern racist governments to strip these rights from blacks and relegate them to virtual non-citizenship. Only within the last half-century has that policy been gradually reversed, again through Federal intervention. "

200 hundred years later and the folks living down there, as a culture, are still absolute pricks. Why is this okay?
 
2011-09-05 01:57:56 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: The Fark Filter: One of the classic mistakes a troll makes: when they get a nibble, instead of getting more subtle, they go full on crazy.


Crazy reporting for duty Sir!

Can you answer my question, why take the craft to another locale? Is the NC coast not known for steady offshore winds (aiding in lift)? Did they take off from straight and level? Or did they ski down tracks laid on sand dunes?


You're smarter than everyone else.
Only you had the insight to call out this fraud for what it was.
Huzzah, sir!

Now about that moon landing... what's up with no stars, and the flag waving??
 
2011-09-05 02:00:09 AM  

t3.gstatic.com
Required reading for this thread.

 
2011-09-05 02:01:51 AM  

cuzsis: 200 hundred years later and the folks living down there, as a culture, are still absolute pricks. Why is this okay?


If you want to live well, and have all your civil rights, and no worries, and free education, and all good things, try Africa. Why would you want to live with those bad old Southern boys when you could live as kings and queens in Africa?
 
2011-09-05 02:03:10 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: The Fark Filter: One of the classic mistakes a troll makes: when they get a nibble, instead of getting more subtle, they go full on crazy.

Crazy reporting for duty Sir!

Can you answer my question, why take the craft to another locale? Is the NC coast not known for steady offshore winds (aiding in lift)? Did they take off from straight and level? Or did they ski down tracks laid on sand dunes?


Sorry, while I sometimes make a deliberate response to a troll (wittingly or not), I never get into discussions with them. You'll have to get some other sucker to answer your question.
 
2011-09-05 02:06:57 AM  

RexTalionis: You mean except for the Vikings, which predated him by another 500 years, like the article says.


A surprise to nobody except morons who don't stay up to date on the latest archaeological discoveries.

I mean, seriously, L'anse aux Meadows has been extensively excavated for about 40 years now; and St. Brendan's existence has ben presumed for nearly as long. It wasn't a question of IF the Irish monks came to America, but when and where they arrived.

More interesting currently is whether the Chinese ever got to the West Coast, and if so, when and where. They had the navy to do it, before the Confucians shut exploration down in the 12th or 13th century; but unfortunately, most of the evidence would be underwater off the Channel Islands.
 
2011-09-05 02:09:30 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: The proof in the pudding, as it were, that the Wright Bros were little more than thieves and marketing frauds, language in agreement between Orville Wright's estate and Smithsonian Museum:

"Neither the Smithsonian Institution or its successors, nor any museum or other agency, bureau or facilities administered for the United States of America by the Smithsonian Institution or its successors shall publish or permit to be displayed a statement or label in connection with or in respect of any aircraft model or design of earlier date than the Wright Aeroplane of 1903, claiming in effect that such aircraft was capable of carrying a man under its own power in controlled flight."


hmmmmm


Maybe marketing, but it's a true statement. No one else was close. Getting a craft airborne without any means of control is not flying. Santos-Dumont had a short flight three years after the Wrights first flight. Just because it was the first seen by the French doesn't mean it was first. A year before Santos-Dumonts first flight, the Wright's had a sustained flight of more than 30 minutes covering more than 20 miles. They were doing figure 8s in Paris when the next best could barely manage to get off the ground.

Using your logic, Columbus was the first to America because the Vikings, land bridgers, Irish or whoever didn't tell the French.

I know, I know, don't feed the troll. I couldn't help it.
 
2011-09-05 02:09:51 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard: The proof in the pudding, as it were, that the Wright Bros were little more than thieves and marketing frauds, language in agreement between Orville Wright's estate and Smithsonian Museum:

"Neither the Smithsonian Institution or its successors, nor any museum or other agency, bureau or facilities administered for the United States of America by the Smithsonian Institution or its successors shall publish or permit to be displayed a statement or label in connection with or in respect of any aircraft model or design of earlier date than the Wright Aeroplane of 1903, claiming in effect that such aircraft was capable of carrying a man under its own power in controlled flight."


hmmmmm


This was because for several decades, the Smithsonian rebuffed the Wright brothers, instead advocating for Samuel Langley--who just happened to be the Smithsonian Secretary--as the progenitor of powered flight. The contract that the Smithsonian signed regarding the 1903 flight was basically their way of saying, "Sorry we were assholes."
 
2011-09-05 02:10:15 AM  

Gyrfalcon: RexTalionis: You mean except for the Vikings, which predated him by another 500 years, like the article says.

A surprise to nobody except morons who don't stay up to date on the latest archaeological discoveries.

I mean, seriously, L'anse aux Meadows has been extensively excavated for about 40 years now; and St. Brendan's existence has ben presumed for nearly as long. It wasn't a question of IF the Irish monks came to America, but when and where they arrived.

More interesting currently is whether the Chinese ever got to the West Coast, and if so, when and where. They had the navy to do it, before the Confucians shut exploration down in the 12th or 13th century; but unfortunately, most of the evidence would be underwater off the Channel Islands.


you haven't heard about the first americans being europeans?
 
2011-09-05 02:11:20 AM  
Setting aside the European arrogance, did they discovered the land, no! Did they discovered they were ignorant about it's existence, yes.
It like a the first Mongolian going to Rome and claiming they discovered the coliseum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture
13,500 to 13,000 calendar years ago

The claim to the oldest human archaeological site known in the Americas belongs to the Pedra Furada human remains and hearths, a site that precedes the Clovis culture and the other sites already mentioned by 19,000 to 30,000 years,
Evidence of human habitation before Clovis

Archaeological sites that predate Clovis that are well documented include the following:

Pedra Furada, Piauí, Brazil (55,000 yr BP ABOX)[22][23][24]
Topper, (50,000 yr BP) South Carolina, US[25][26]
Meadowcroft, Pennsylvania, US (16,000 yr BP)[27]
Buttermilk Creek Complex, Salado, Texas, US (15,500 14C yr BP)[4][28][29]
Cactus Hill, Virginia, US (15,000 yr BP) [30]
Saltville, Virginia, US (14,510 14C yr BP)[31]
Taima-Taima, Venezuela (14,000 yr BP)[32]
Monte Verde, Chile (14,800 14C yr BP)[33][34]
Tanana Valley, Alaska, US (14,000 yr BP)[35]
Paisley Caves, Oregon, US (14,300 yr BP)[36]
Lapa do Boquete, Brazil (12,070 ±170 14C yr BP)[33][37]
Connley Caves, Oregon, US (13,000 yr BP)[38]
Nenana valley, Alaska, US (12,000 yr BP)[39]
Tibitó, Colombia (11,740 ±110 14C yr BP)[33]
Tagua-Tagua, Chile (11,380 ±380 14C yr BP)[40]

/I'm thankful TFA left out the Morman claim to new world settlements..
 
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