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2011-09-04 08:10:26 PM  
Came for shortsighted YA'LL IS SOME KINDA LIBERUL PUSSY USA USA USA comments, left disappointingly satisfied.

Stockholm syndrome is a biatch.
 
2011-09-04 08:11:39 PM  
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2011-09-04 08:13:21 PM  
I really hope that's a male to female transsexual. It would be a damn shame if a biological woman were that ugly, not to mention that much a of whiny sniveling puss. Go back to your English riots, he-biatch.
 
2011-09-04 08:13:49 PM  
That's the longest rendition of "I'm a dumb ugly whiner" I've seen in quite a while.
 
2011-09-04 08:14:45 PM  
After reading that article, I think a more correct headline should be "The U.S. Northeast is like a Third World country."
 
2011-09-04 08:15:26 PM  

This About That: That's a whiny dumbass. If she lived in a "third world country" she'd be dead by now.


She wouldn't have had that tanker bring her water, nor those clean clothes she's wearing, nor fuel for that generator (nor the generator itself), nor her little 18th century cottage, or even a computer or the internet to publicize that terrible article... But yeah whatever, the entire USA, including Hawaii and Alaska, is part of a 3rd World Country because mother nature barely had her way with a bit of concentrated wind and rain.
 
2011-09-04 08:16:11 PM  

mason4300: After reading that article, I think a more correct headline should be "The U.S. Northeast is like a Third World country."


HA. So what does that make the south then?
 
2011-09-04 08:17:10 PM  

GAT_00: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: that America still hasn't buried anything that isn't a heavy transmission line?

Some states do. When I was in Ohio, everything was underground. I'm guessing the counter-argument to keeping them aboveground is it makes expansion easier.


A lot of newer neighborhoods in Florida do this as well now. For Charley in 04, the above ground line that fed our subdivision took a hit. Took about 48 hours to get it repaired. But once that line was back, the while neighborhood was back. Had the RV parked in the driveway with a 5.5kw generator running to power a fridge a few fans and some lights. Kicked in the a / c when it got really hot.
 
2011-09-04 08:19:53 PM  
People who believe the US is a third-world country have never been to a third-world country.
 
2011-09-04 08:20:24 PM  

Vodka Zombie: violentsalvation: Well what do you want us to do? Nuke the hurricane before it makes landfall?

Actually, yeah. I want that. I want that ALL the time!


i934.photobucket.com

/hot like, well, you know...
 
2011-09-04 08:20:35 PM  
Love all the "USA! USA! USA!" responses.

Does it occur to anybody that the reason so much stuff got washed out from what amounted to a heavy rainstorm is that it's all pretty shakily built? That it's not maintained well? That the services to trim back tree overgrowth has been cut back for budgetary concerns? That the storm drains don't have adequate redundancy? All that is seriously third-world type reasons for stuff going wrong.
 
2011-09-04 08:22:16 PM  
FTFA: And when I walked down my drive, it was immediately apparent that this would not be the kind of brief power cut with which we are familiar in Britain.

Until I got to this part of the article, I had no reason to think that the author was British. But when I scrolled past her photo, my first thought was "Christ, that woman's ugly enough to be English."
 
2011-09-04 08:23:27 PM  

Pestifer: Love all the "USA! USA! USA!" responses.

Does it occur to anybody that the reason so much stuff got washed out from what amounted to a heavy rainstorm is that it's all pretty shakily built? That it's not maintained well? That the services to trim back tree overgrowth has been cut back for budgetary concerns? That the storm drains don't have adequate redundancy? All that is seriously third-world type reasons for stuff going wrong.


All countries have these problems. The US also has relatively varied and harsh weather compared to a good portion of the world. I say we do relatively well given what is thrown at us.
 
2011-09-04 08:25:44 PM  

hubiestubert: So, which is it? The storm was bad, and there was damage and it will take time to fix, or it was minor, and folks over reacted?

She wants it both ways. She wants to illustrate that there is infrastructure damage, but at the same time, wants to downplay that damage and instead focus on what she thinks are institutional problems.


THIS. Was it devastating or nothing? Everything's too expensive -- but why aren't they spending more? America's third world, but things are run badly because they're run by foreigners, not Americans. She contradicts herself over and over.

Fark those who live in the 'burbs, or rural but think they should be coddled instead of self-sufficient. Yeah, in high-density urban areas, they can bury the wires -- but how much would it cost to run trench and conduit out to every scattered house in the boonies? Likewise other piped services.

Having their own wells means they can be self-sufficient for water. TAKE A HINT, BIATCH. No piped in gas; fine, if you want it, stock it -- and the burners that work with it.

i could go on at length, but I'll just address one more: FEMA WAS NEVER INTENDED TO RESCUE PEOPLE OR FIX THINGS. It's like saying, "why doesn't the IRS come help me?" 'Cuz that's not what they do. What they do is process money.

Firefighters, cops, paramedics, etc. work for state and local gov't. Utilities are the same or private sector. The Feds don't have an army of them sitting around waiting for a disaster. What they can offer is cash to help pay for overtime, additional contractors, public works for repair, etc.

Up until the mid-70's, when a disaster happened, Congress would (maybe) vote to donate cash. Now, under the Stafford Act, a governor asks the Prez to declare a Federal disaster area; if he does, they're eligible for money through FEMA. An orderly system unhindered by Congressional gridlock.

"Oh, but FEMA hasn't fixed my personal artesian well, or my broken gas burner." STFU and/or GTFO.

FTFM
 
2011-09-04 08:26:23 PM  
You know, maybe if she were bootstrappier she could have prepared for the storm with some basics and wouldn't be biatching about third-world conditions. She could have filled up pitchers with drinking water just in case, and filled up her bathtub so she had something to flush with just in case, and bought non-perishables and batteries and candles just in case, and had a battery-operated radio or hand-crank radio handy just in case.
 
2011-09-04 08:28:18 PM  

Noluk: Dear stoopid biatch. You got off light. Back up a few years and take a look at what it was like in Florida in 2004. 4 hurricanes and a tropical storm hitting in almost the same areas in a couple months.


And not extreme low end cat 1 aka tropical storm either. Florida got a cat 4 (charley), cat 2 (frances), and two cat 3 (ivan, jeanne) in one year.

/and no, civilization didn't end down here either
 
2011-09-04 08:31:22 PM  

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i have tears running down my face i'm laughing so hard at this ... still
 
2011-09-04 08:31:53 PM  

TheirThey'reNow: mason4300: After reading that article, I think a more correct headline should be "The U.S. Northeast is like a Third World country."

HA. So what does that make the south then?


I dunno, but the infrastructure where I live isn't a big pile of shiat like what she was describing.
 
2011-09-04 08:31:54 PM  
Well, it looks like most people really want to defend their stupidly crappy infrastructure, ridiculously bad emergency management programs, and sold out utility management and complain about how whiny she is. Apparently she should be happy that the emergency response is slow (or just not say anything about it to make people feel better about our failure of a system), the ancient infrastructure fails easily, and that the companies that should be responding aren't even in the same country. It should be much better than it is in this "superpower," even if the hurricane was actually worse than a damp squib.

But never mind that! It could be worse, and that should make her feel better. And anyway, she can just leave the country if she doesn't like our super-awesome run down system! Focus on her tone!

GO US PRIDE!
 
2011-09-04 08:31:58 PM  

Pestifer: Love all the "USA! USA! USA!" responses.

Does it occur to anybody that the reason so much stuff got washed out from what amounted to a heavy rainstorm is that it's all pretty shakily built? That it's not maintained well? That the services to trim back tree overgrowth has been cut back for budgetary concerns? That the storm drains don't have adequate redundancy? All that is seriously third-world type reasons for stuff going wrong.


Her major hangup in that biatchfest seems to be that utilities in her neighborhood are carried above ground and on wooden poles. There is nothing wrong with using wooden utility poles as long as they are inspected regularly (which they almost always are, utility companies do NOT want that liability) and many are in use for 75yrs or longer without issue. Carrying the power underground would've led to a different failure, but you were going to lose your power ya coont. Just be glad your little shiatshack didn't float away and maybe think of something you can actually, ya know, DO to help someone in real distress.
 
2011-09-04 08:33:17 PM  
Jeebus lady... those pictures look like Godzilla stomped on your town. shiat's gonna be broke.
 
2011-09-04 08:33:59 PM  
i.imgur.com

Irene took out my power, friend-o.
 
2011-09-04 08:34:29 PM  
You stupid whiny biatch. Shiat happens. You had to traverse 10 miles to find a bag of charcoal? Why didn't you get that Thursday? Why were you so personally unprepared? The government, whom you think should take care of you, warned you early in the week that this was going to be nasty.
You have a generator too small to run your stove? Who bought it? You did, you ignorant cow.

--------------------------------------
2003 heatwave - 2,000 Brits died (40,000+ across Europe)
Temps reached 100F in London. Where was your infrastructure then, dear?

2010-2011 blizzard
"An estimated two million homes, schools and hospitals face fuel rationing over Christmas after MPs warned that supplies of heating oil would hit 'crisis' point during the cold snap. As snow began falling again across the country, the Government confirmed that the situation could become "very serious," with some households already facing waits of up to four weeks before they can receive supplies. "

A couple of dozen people died in that one.
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, sweetpea.
 
2011-09-04 08:34:35 PM  

telaran: Well, it looks like most people really want to defend their stupidly crappy infrastructure, ridiculously bad emergency management programs, and sold out utility management and complain about how whiny she is. Apparently she should be happy that the emergency response is slow (or just not say anything about it to make people feel better about our failure of a system), the ancient infrastructure fails easily, and that the companies that should be responding aren't even in the same country. It should be much better than it is in this "superpower," even if the hurricane was actually worse than a damp squib.

But never mind that! It could be worse, and that should make her feel better. And anyway, she can just leave the country if she doesn't like our super-awesome run down system! Focus on her tone!

GO US PRIDE!



Can't I simultaneously agree that the infrastructure here on the East coast sucks major ass and that she is also a whiny dumbass?
 
2011-09-04 08:36:40 PM  

hubiestubert: So, which is it? The storm was bad, and there was damage and it will take time to fix, or it was minor, and folks over reacted?

She wants it both ways. She wants to illustrate that there is infrastructure damage, but at the same time, wants to downplay that damage and instead focus on what she thinks are institutional problems.


As a Westchester resident, I do NOT support her analogy that we're like a Third World country. That's just disgusting on her part. However, lost in her rhetoric were some valid points that definitely apply to this area. There are people who may still be having it worse, and I do feel for them.

I just got my power back yesterday morning after 6 days. I live on one of the main entrances into my town, right next to the main MTA commuter parking lot. We had a tree fall on the powerline across the street at 5:00 am on Sunday, and break the phone pole that held the transformers (hazardous material transformers at that). Electric lines were in the street and driveway. The broken phone pole caught on fire and neither the police or fire department even responded (we called both right away).

Everyone we talked to over the course of almost a week told us various things weren't their department; we don't cut trees, we don't remove hazardous waste, we don't install new poles, we don't run cables, we don't install transformers and on and on and on. We were in a circle of bureaucracy hell.

So I do think she has a point about the ill-preparedness of the local townships and utilities, but I don't think she had to be such a twat expressing it. We didn't even have a genny, so boo fricking hoo lady (although we did have lots of beer, so there's that). Local representatives are requesting hearings, although that may just be lip service to placate residents.

Sorry for the long post, just trying to vent some frustration with the local response. I could write a fricking book about it.

Ironically, Verizon responded to a DSL trouble ticket on time, ran a new phone line and called us to confirm everything was all set, even before NYSEG restored power to us.
 
2011-09-04 08:37:12 PM  

telaran: Well, it looks like most people really want to defend their stupidly crappy infrastructure, ridiculously bad emergency management programs, and sold out utility management and complain about how whiny she is. Apparently she should be happy that the emergency response is slow (or just not say anything about it to make people feel better about our failure of a system), the ancient infrastructure fails easily, and that the companies that should be responding aren't even in the same country. It should be much better than it is in this "superpower," even if the hurricane was actually worse than a damp squib.

But never mind that! It could be worse, and that should make her feel better. And anyway, she can just leave the country if she doesn't like our super-awesome run down system! Focus on her tone!

GO US PRIDE!


You sound like you're from some place that doesn't have a lot of weather problems. Scottsdale, maybe. Some area that doesn't give you a whole lot of relativity to base your post off of.

Storms can wash away houses and roads. They've done this for as long as man has built them. This won't change.
 
2011-09-04 08:37:20 PM  
files.myopera.com
THAT'S a superpower...
 
2011-09-04 08:37:37 PM  
Third-world country? This woman has obviously never seen a third world country ravaged by a hurricane. Entire villages are wiped off the map.

Also, Hurricane Irene may well be among the top ten costliest natural disasters in U.S. history. Link (new window)
 
2011-09-04 08:42:16 PM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: You have a generator too small to run your stove? Who bought it? You did, you ignorant cow.


And this is why I Will Always Have A Gas Stove and also a fire pit out back.

3 days blackout, canned good bonanza in the basement cause Mom learned from Grandma to stock up on stuff while the going was good + still-working stove = alright 3 days, except our little dog hanging out in the basement was not happy with the heat. And losing stuff in the fridge kinda sucked. But the first night before the neighbor's generator kicked in was so quiet and nice.
 
2011-09-04 08:42:43 PM  
Meh, I live in MN. Not a single fu... you get the picture.
 
2011-09-04 08:45:47 PM  
Not to be a dick, but the infrastructure on both coasts kind of sucks. You guys need to get that shiat updated.
 
2011-09-04 08:46:36 PM  
Well she is correct about needing better infrastructure and a streamlined response.

But a 3rd world country? Unreasonable comparison is unreasonable.
 
2011-09-04 08:46:40 PM  
OK, so her article was a bit whiny, but the fact is that the US choked on this storm. What Irene handed out was laughable. The fact there was so much damage is a sign of inadequacy. That particular storm was of a magnitude and severity that is routine elsewhere in North America.

America is just a big wuss.
 
2011-09-04 08:48:26 PM  

Marine1: You sound like you're from some place that doesn't have a lot of weather problems. Scottsdale, maybe. Some area that doesn't give you a whole lot of relativity to base your post off of.

Storms can wash away houses and roads. They've done this for as long as man has built them. This won't change.


Storms are less likely to wash away houses and roads, down power lines and create other problems if infrastructure is better built regardless of where one lives. It's also less likely to affect as many people if emergency response is better funded and responsible companies are in a place where they can actually respond quickly. This should be especially apparent in places with lots of weather problems.
 
2011-09-04 08:49:09 PM  

telaran: Well, it looks like most people really want to defend their stupidly crappy infrastructure, ridiculously bad emergency management programs, and sold out utility management and complain about how whiny she is. Apparently she should be happy that the emergency response is slow (or just not say anything about it to make people feel better about our failure of a system), the ancient infrastructure fails easily, and that the companies that should be responding aren't even in the same country. It should be much better than it is in this "superpower," even if the hurricane was actually worse than a damp squib.

But never mind that! It could be worse, and that should make her feel better. And anyway, she can just leave the country if she doesn't like our super-awesome run down system! Focus on her tone!

GO US PRIDE!


img691.imageshack.us

/fark yeah!!
 
2011-09-04 08:56:07 PM  
I really want to string together a series of gender-speciic explatives at this person, but I still can't decide if there is a Y chromosome in play.

As for underground lines, they tend to be the standard for new construction but for existing neighboorhoods it breaks down like this.

Do you want us to bury your lines?

Yeah!

Do you want us to increase your rates and tear up your neighboorhood for 3 months with backhoes to do it?

Er... Not so much
 
2011-09-04 08:56:23 PM  
Despite the obvious derp in the article from a limey point of view, she's spot on about the archaic infrastructure and atrocious politicians who refuse to update anything.

I've been a fireman in CT for 15 years and it's always the same problems, same complaints to the powers that be to fix said problems, and the same "well, we'll try, but..." response.

But some areas are fortunate. My parents (who live in upity Fairfield county CT) have lived in a neighborhood with underground utilities for 26 years, and the longest they've ever lost power is 4 hours, and never water pressure. So, you know, the broad's gotta point..
 
2011-09-04 08:57:02 PM  

JonnyG: OK, so her article was a bit whiny, but the fact is that the US choked on this storm. What Irene handed out was laughable. The fact there was so much damage is a sign of inadequacy. That particular storm was of a magnitude and severity that is routine elsewhere in North America.

AmericaThe Northeast is just a big wuss.


We do fine with large severe storms in the Midwest, unless they're the type that flattened half of Joplin. This isn't as much a sign of inadequate infrastructure and response as it is a bunch of people in one region of the country who think they're too good to be bothered with a little emergency preparedness.

Now, if you really want a place where the government dropped the ball, look at Gavins Point Dam in South Dakota. They didn't release the water early enough this year, so the only option was to flood the lower Missouri River valley with water coming out of floodgates at 170,000 cubic feet per second. There are quite a few farmers in Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, and Kansas who lost everything. Not just power for a few days, not just a road by their house... everything. Levees failed. Some were intentionally blown to make sure Omaha and Kansas City weren't flooded. The farm fields are currently underwater and millions upon millions of dollars worth of food is submerged in what is essentially raw sewage. Funny how the Northeast was silent about bad infrastructure at the time that was happening. The rest of us were busy sandbagging and getting ready. We got our Porta-dam and equipment a week before the floods were supposed to arrive in Parkville. Maybe the emergency response in the Northeast is the problem, not the whole country.
 
2011-09-04 09:01:23 PM  

telaran: Storms are less likely to wash away houses and roads, down power lines and create other problems if infrastructure is better built regardless of where one lives. It's also less likely to affect as many people if emergency response is better funded and responsible companies are in a place where they can actually respond quickly. This should be especially apparent in places with lots of weather problems.


It seems like there's a different between the way a thunderstorm or a nor'easter affects the northeast and a tropical storm affects the northeast, though. While I agree that the infrastructure in the country needs to be improved, it may not have helped much against Irene in Vermont, for instance, given the mountainous terrain and the saturated soil in some areas of the state from other flooding from earlier in the year.
 
2011-09-04 09:01:55 PM  
imagemacros.files.wordpress.com

at least we know who has bukket
 
2011-09-04 09:02:17 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: And this is why I Will Always Have A Gas Stove and also a fire pit out back.


I have a double grill, propane+charcoal, a firepit, and plenty of fuel/wood for all. I can and have cooked just about any meal on it.
The freezer in my secondary fridge is 2/3 ice (frozen water bottles). Main fridge about 1/3.

Gergesa: Well she is correct about needing better infrastructure and a streamlined response.


Streamlined response? It takes time to fix broken lines. Here in VA, most of my neighbors (next door, across the street) were without power for 3-4 days. But there were crews from up to 1,000 miles away here fixing shiat. It takes time.

Yes, more lines could/should be run underground.
 
2011-09-04 09:03:41 PM  

JonnyG: OK, so her article was a bit whiny, but the fact is that the US choked on this storm. What Irene handed out was laughable. The fact there was so much damage is a sign of inadequacy. That particular storm was of a magnitude and severity that is routine elsewhere in North America.

America is just a big wuss.


Yes, but not routine in the northeast, and even when hurricanes hit areas that do find hurricanes routine, there's still millions in damage. It's like saying that just because California sits on a faultline, my place in Michigan should be able to stand up to a 9.3 earthquake. It'd be nice, but it's not gonna happen, and it's not cost-effective or necessary, as I don't think I've ever been hit by an earthquake and noticed that an earthquake was going on.

/Can't remember the last time a hurricane hit NYC and the Northeast as a hurricane.
//Don't think it's happened in my lifetime. (1992)
 
2011-09-04 09:04:57 PM  
So this article depicts the hurricane as the white people's version of Hurricane Katrina? Ok.

Seriously, the Daily Mail would have enjoyed a much more powerful hurricane. They would have been chastising the Obama administration if Hurricane Irene flooded New York City and the subways couldn't work for two months calling out America's infrastructure problems. The right wing media would be criticizing Obama too because he allowed gay marriage to be legal in the state of New York without trying defend it with the DOMA.

Natural disasters happen. You can't control the weather. Thus infrastructure is prone to damage over time by this. The United States is unfortunate to be a highly disaster prone country due to hurricanes, tornadoes, rainy seasons, and freak blizzards. A problem that is not experienced that much in Europe.
 
2011-09-04 09:05:31 PM  
Love this bit from the comments... some broddah outta Bahhston toyped it.

"Lady... are you kidding me? A month after your "United Kingdom" burned and looted everything in sight you have the audacity to wag a finger and call the US "a third world country" ? I really cannot stop laughing!! What an idiotic remark."

Seriously.
 
2011-09-04 09:06:45 PM  
What's with all the Sturm und Drang? All I had to do was read "Daily Fail," and game over.
 
2011-09-04 09:11:06 PM  

Funk Brothers: So this article depicts the hurricane as the white people's version of Hurricane Katrina? Ok.

Seriously, the Daily Mail would have enjoyed a much more powerful hurricane. They would have been chastising the Obama administration if Hurricane Irene flooded New York City and the subways couldn't work for two months calling out America's infrastructure problems. The right wing media would be criticizing Obama too because he allowed gay marriage to be legal in the state of New York without trying defend it with the DOMA.

Natural disasters happen. You can't control the weather. Thus infrastructure is prone to damage over time by this. The United States is unfortunate to be a highly disaster prone country due to hurricanes, tornadoes, rainy seasons, and freak blizzards. A problem that is not experienced that much in Europe.



Small shakes compared to Europe being a mixed of 2 dozen countries. Who knows how long the USA would've lasted if every decade another crazy egomaniac decides to take over the continent?

/the EU for all its faults at least forces some level of peace
 
2011-09-04 09:11:44 PM  

Master of the Flying Guillotine: You know, maybe if she were bootstrappier she could have prepared for the storm with some basics and wouldn't be biatching about third-world conditions. She could have filled up pitchers with drinking water just in case, and filled up her bathtub so she had something to flush with just in case, and bought non-perishables and batteries and candles just in case, and had a battery-operated radio or hand-crank radio handy just in case.


But heaven forfend there be a Walmart near her to that would carry that stuff.

Pestifer: Does it occur to anybody that the reason so much stuff got washed out from what amounted to a heavy rainstorm is that it's all pretty shakily built?


It's more that there was already a shiatload of rain this month.

And 13.33 inches of rain (East Jewett, NY) is a lot more than a heavy rainstorm.

That the services to trim back tree overgrowth has been cut back for budgetary concerns?

More likely the tree-trimming was curtailed because the locals in Westchester get uberpissy at the suggestion their precious greenery be trimmed.

A lot of dirt roads got washed out up in the sticks where I live. Sucks, but people moved up here because they like the dirt roads.

And a shiatload more of them are like Herb Van Baren of Oliverea, NY than that Westchester bint.

Herb Van Baren[,] was standing in his yard near a neighbor's house, which was partially collapsed. Nearby, his wife washed clothes in a pool of water left behind by the flooding. Still, amid the destruction, he had propped up a sign for his business, Oliverea Schoolhouse Maple Syrup.

"I ain't done," he said. "I'm open for business."


I am buying some of this man's maple syrup.
 
2011-09-04 09:12:11 PM  
JonnyG 2011-09-04 08:46:40 PM

OK, so her article was a bit whiny, but the fact is that the US choked on this storm. What Irene handed out was laughable. The fact there was so much damage is a sign of inadequacy. That particular storm was of a magnitude and severity that is routine elsewhere in North America.

America is just a big wuss.


Really? Please elaborate on which part of N America receives Hurricanes on a regular basis. Please, oh God please, say Canada

Also, this is what happens when a country becomes so dependent on the state to provide for them. I know you are gonna be all "go piss off you nazi republican Palin humper" but lets be real. The amount of respobsibility we have thrown on the gov't is way to much for it to handle and you can see it collapsing in on itself when its time to act
 
2011-09-04 09:13:26 PM  

Master of the Flying Guillotine: It seems like there's a different between the way a thunderstorm or a nor'easter affects the northeast and a tropical storm affects the northeast, though. While I agree that the infrastructure in the country needs to be improved, it may not have helped much against Irene in Vermont, for instance, given the mountainous terrain and the saturated soil in some areas of the state from other flooding from earlier in the year.


That goes without saying, of course. There is only so much one can anticipate and that people can actually do. No amount of reinforcement, for instance, will keep a road on an emergent coastline from occasionally cracking and sliding into the ocean (but certain construction practices can help). However, the northeast is not enough of a stranger to hurricanes and tropical storms to justifiably not build with them in mind, even when compared to more common weather events, nor failing to update its infrastructure, which was a problem with Irene.
 
2011-09-04 09:13:56 PM  
Oh Emo Philips, you joker.
 
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