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(Daily Mail)   Superpower? America's a Third World country. Look what happened in New York after a damp squib of a hurricane sent the US into panic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 194
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2011-09-04 12:29:26 PM  
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2011-09-04 12:42:16 PM  
That's a whiny dumbass. If she lived in a "third world country" she'd be dead by now.
 
2011-09-04 12:45:55 PM  
Well what do you want us to do? Nuke the hurricane before it makes landfall? Have a stealth fighter sneak up on it? This lady is stupid.

Also, done in one. GAH!!
 
2011-09-04 12:48:18 PM  

violentsalvation: Well what do you want us to do? Nuke the hurricane before it makes landfall?


Actually, yeah. I want that. I want that ALL the time!
 
2011-09-04 12:52:44 PM  
whiny dumbass is whiney.
 
2011-09-04 12:56:54 PM  
Why is it that after a century of using overhead power lines on posts of wood that get snapped in light storms that America still hasn't buried anything that isn't a heavy transmission line?
 
2011-09-04 12:57:47 PM  
She sounds like someone you'd eat first in the Apocalypse.
 
2011-09-04 01:00:39 PM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: that America still hasn't buried anything that isn't a heavy transmission line?


Some states do. When I was in Ohio, everything was underground. I'm guessing the counter-argument to keeping them aboveground is it makes expansion easier.
 
2011-09-04 01:19:56 PM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Why is it that after a century of using overhead power lines on posts of wood that get snapped in light storms that America still hasn't buried anything that isn't a heavy transmission line?


Aside from the cost being outrageously expensive for both construction and maintenance, and the reliability being only marginally better (and even then, only when you take into account wind/ice damage)

Yes, I like the underground power lines in my backyard. I don't look forward to replacing them sometime in the next 10 years (~$3,500 unless they take out my electrical system with a floating ground, as happens about 30% of the time, in which case the cost is closer to $12,000)
 
2011-09-04 01:26:24 PM  
At least forty four people would disagree with you about it being a "damp squib," subs. Alas, they are no longer available for comment.

Had this "damp squib" hit a genuine third world country like, say, Haiti, the death toll would have been in the thousands. Bangladesh, in the tens of thousands.
 
2011-09-04 01:34:32 PM  
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Does not approve
 
2011-09-04 01:42:17 PM  
Dear Ms. Churcher (if that IS your real name),
We would like to draw your attention to the many conveniently located exits from the U.S. that are readfily available to you.
Please make use of one of them.

Sincerely,
The U.S.A.
 
2011-09-04 01:54:09 PM  
Clearly further tax cuts will solve this problem.
 
2011-09-04 01:58:16 PM  
because we all know that only 3rd-world nations are susceptible to the forces of nature. What a stupid twunt.
 
2011-09-04 02:59:05 PM  

violentsalvation: Well what do you want us to do? Nuke the hurricane before it makes landfall? Have a stealth fighter sneak up on it? This lady is stupid.

Also, done in one. GAH!!


It is kind of economically unfeasable to keep all those nukes around without using them every so often.
 
2011-09-04 04:30:48 PM  
Meanwhile in the UK.......

(insert pictures here of riots, people being stripped naked in the street, London burning, etc.)
 
2011-09-04 04:37:36 PM  

oldebayer: At least forty four people would disagree with you about it being a "damp squib," subs. Alas, they are no longer available for comment.

Had this "damp squib" hit a genuine third world country like, say, Haiti, the death toll would have been in the thousands. Bangladesh, in the tens of thousands.



Oh come now. Most of those 44 deaths were either the fault of the idiots doing something they shouldn't (driving around during the storm, camping or working under trees during the storm, sitting under a glass roof during the storm, swimming in flooded areas or oceans during the storm) or natural causes (heart attacks).

Only a few cases would I list the cause as storm related (tree limbs coming through solid roof).
 
2011-09-04 04:39:32 PM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Why is it that after a century of using overhead power lines on posts of wood that get snapped in light storms that America still hasn't buried anything that isn't a heavy transmission line?


Because that would cost money, and we can't possibly have that.

As for TFA, if she had generators there and a water truck, it sounds like the RESPONSE wasn't half bad, but she does have a point about why the US has such shiatty infrastructure in some areas. The endless overlapping jurisdictions in the name of ideological correctness can be a hindrance too. Heck, US sources have legitimately complained about that as well.
 
2011-09-04 04:45:34 PM  
What a load of useless whinging.
 
2011-09-04 04:49:50 PM  
The thousands of people without power still would like to have a word with you
 
2011-09-04 05:03:01 PM  
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" I'm not only president of the Hair Club for Men, I'm also a client."
 
2011-09-04 05:29:51 PM  
There's a lot of people with washed out bridges, flooded homes and other issues, would take issue with the assessment of how bad the hurricane was
 
2011-09-04 06:00:55 PM  

WhyteRaven74: There's a lot of people with washed out bridges, flooded homes and other issues, would take issue with the assessment of how bad the hurricane was


The entire town of Deerfield, MA was put under a little over 5' of water. That was water that got hit by backed up sewer lines up river, that discharged a LOT of raw sewage right into the flow. The entire town was soaked in raw sewage. The Inn where I work is considered hazmat at this point, and half the buildings in town are in the same boat.

Up the mountain, in Greenfield, we were fine. Most of the Valley was fine--and it was fine because most of the systems to bleed off the extra flow worked, but that didn't save some areas from getting pasted. Bridges, homes were literally washed away. Heck, our walk in was lifted 3" and deposited back down, and that is a good sized piece of steel and concrete. Half the buildings in town were under water, and Deerfield Academy lost a lot of their grounds and a whole dorm. The flow protections just got crushed--and if they hadn't released the water that got flushed, more towns would have suffered what Deerfield got.

This wasn't a major catastrophe for the entire Eastern Seaboard, but the damage in Deerfield alone is in the tens of millions already. That's one small town.

Screw this dizzy biatch.
 
2011-09-04 06:03:14 PM  
Are the rich JOB CREATORS still doing OK? That's all that really matters.
 
2011-09-04 06:10:12 PM  

MisterTweak: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Why is it that after a century of using overhead power lines on posts of wood that get snapped in light storms that America still hasn't buried anything that isn't a heavy transmission line?

Aside from the cost being outrageously expensive for both construction and maintenance, and the reliability being only marginally better (and even then, only when you take into account wind/ice damage)

Yes, I like the underground power lines in my backyard. I don't look forward to replacing them sometime in the next 10 years (~$3,500 unless they take out my electrical system with a floating ground, as happens about 30% of the time, in which case the cost is closer to $12,000)


You still lose power to the substations in storms (they are aboveground) and have to be repaired after the fact. With below ground services, you end up with onground transformers that could also be damaged.
 
2011-09-04 06:25:54 PM  
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Nice pearl necklace third world woman.
 
2011-09-04 06:28:03 PM  
Someone needs to liberate her from the horror the united states.
 
2011-09-04 06:35:18 PM  

hubiestubert: Heck, our walk in was lifted 3" and deposited back down, and that is a good sized piece of steel and concrete.


I forget that you're a Masshole.
 
2011-09-04 06:55:19 PM  
So, which is it? The storm was bad, and there was damage and it will take time to fix, or it was minor, and folks over reacted?

She wants it both ways. She wants to illustrate that there is infrastructure damage, but at the same time, wants to downplay that damage and instead focus on what she thinks are institutional problems.

The area affected by the storm amounts to better than half of her UK. That folks are digging out, and there was less damage than folks were prepared for is a good thing. I'd rather see folks evacuated and come back to a home that isn't washed away, than not evacuated and last be seen as their house is ripped from its foundations.

She was hired to do a piece by the Daily Mail that is critical, and no matter the response, and no matter the damage, she wouldn't be happy. Because her employers have a vested interest in being critical. Pity this poor dizzy broad, because this is what a lack of anything looking like journalistic integrity looks like, and you'd think that if she was going to sell out, she'd could have at least afforded a decent haircut and something other than crappy Mom jeans...
 
2011-09-04 06:55:58 PM  
The US was in panic, really? I missed that. Some idiots who don't know what a hurricane is and listened to the alarmist media were in a panic but despite what they may believe, New York != the entire country.
 
2011-09-04 07:00:38 PM  
It is in Westchester County, a suburb where the residents include Bill and Hillary Clinton, Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones, Ralph Lauren, Susan Sarandon, Glenn Close and David Letterman.

I bet you one internet she's never met anybody from Yonkers or Mount Vernon.
 
2011-09-04 07:17:41 PM  
I seem to recall the Brits having a conniption last summer when the temperatures hit 90F for a few days.
 
2011-09-04 07:43:41 PM  
This is another salvo in the "We have nothing to learn from American policing" battle after the disastrous handling of the riots by the British police. (And remember their bureaucratic structure is much flatter than ours.)
 
2011-09-04 07:49:45 PM  
Still bitter after all these years.
Also, done in one.
 
2011-09-04 07:50:13 PM  
To be fair, they did have that city-flattening earthquake just a week or two before.

Oh, and if you don't like it here, go back home!
 
2011-09-04 07:54:01 PM  
"...insanely archaic, unco-ordinated and ineptly managed infrastructure of the New York area."? Yeah, doll, it's that way for a reason. Go away.
 
2011-09-04 07:54:26 PM  
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2011-09-04 07:54:32 PM  
That's what happens when you outsource everything trying to destroy the middle class.
 
2011-09-04 07:57:26 PM  
Hey subbie. You a flatlander? It didn't bother us in Colorado. And only low living flatlanders without a brain got the runs over it. Liberals.
 
2011-09-04 07:58:08 PM  
Don't complain about our politicians especially when it's been revealed that Rupert Murdock had a bunch of U.K. politicians in his back pocket along with the police. It's the Sun Wot Won It, indeed.
 
2011-09-04 07:58:37 PM  
A lot of that hysteria was caused by the US media: They're constantly looking for dramatic stories of Chaz Bono lookalikes wading through flooded-out small town centers.
 
2011-09-04 08:02:25 PM  

Relatively Obscure: She sounds like someone you'd eat first in the Apocalypse.


She sounds like a child?
 
2011-09-04 08:04:07 PM  
She's just mad because she thinks she lives with rich people and rich people shouldn't have to put up with such inconveniences. Lady, you have no idea who the rich people really are so STFU and GTFO.
 
2011-09-04 08:04:22 PM  
hey, daily mail... shut the fark up. you brits have no idea what a storm is.

you all lost your shiat over a 60mph tornado. we don't even call that a tornado in the states... it's a dust devil at worst.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7010172.stm

if you ever experienced an actual hurricane, you'd be begging the queen to increase what she's already paying you for sitting on your arses.
 
2011-09-04 08:05:15 PM  
Looks like she's using a fountainhead.
 
2011-09-04 08:06:17 PM  
She makes one very good point, in all the whining: That power goes out so easily. I'm close to Bethesda, Maryland, one of the most expensive places in the US. The power reliably goes out with a line of thunderstorms. It's absurd.

So - what's the answer? Concrete poles with a pile-driven steel girder center? In areas with underground power transmission lines, power is pretty rock solid. I've lived in those areas when the last two major tropical systems came through, and I never lost power, much less from a thunderstorm line.

But, if you're going to have above-ground power lines, you need a) poles that don't go down and b) no tree branches within a 15 foot radius.
 
2011-09-04 08:07:06 PM  

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Holy crap.
 
2011-09-04 08:07:21 PM  
Dear stoopid biatch. You got off light. Back up a few years and take a look at what it was like in Florida in 2004. 4 hurricanes and a tropical storm hitting in almost the same areas in a couple months. Piss off you snivvlin koont.
 
2011-09-04 08:08:45 PM  
I don't suppose that part of the logic in evacuating is that you don't have to put up with the minor "third world" inconveniences such as the power being out for a few days after a hurricane. Lord only knows how she was able to FIND a noisy generator, since I'm sure they'd be a pretty hot commodity at that point, let alone the gas to fuel it. Must have had it on hand already. You know... just in case the power goes out for an extended period of time... which isn't EVER supposed to happen... after a HURRICANE.
 
2011-09-04 08:09:04 PM  

TheirThey'reNow: She's just mad because she thinks she lives with rich people and rich people shouldn't have to put up with such inconveniences. Lady, you have no idea who the rich people really are so STFU and GTFO.


Yeah... yeah.

The_Original_Roxtar: hey, daily mail... shut the fark up. you brits have no idea what a storm is.

you all lost your shiat over a 60mph tornado. we don't even call that a tornado in the states... it's a dust devil at worst.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7010172.stm

if you ever experienced an actual hurricane, you'd be begging the queen to increase what she's already paying you for sitting on your arses.


We apparently got 60 mph winds yesterday.

Severe thunderstorm warnings continuously interrupting NPR, sure, and I got drenched racing to pick up the SO from work since I *had* to borrow the van to pick up some garden stuff... but that was about it.

Our infrastructure DOES need a hell of a lot of work - fixing bridges (and having to pay to fix them) is a sensible but not sexy thing for an elected official to insist upon, for example... not even gonna bring up the grid problems and the 03 blackout (good times).

But lady, STFU indeed.
 
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