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2011-08-30 12:00:26 PM
List fails for including Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
 
2011-08-30 12:11:18 PM
Mostly bands I don't listen to anyway.

Beastie Boys - License to Ill? I thought that was their good one, though I'm far from an expert on them. My little brother had that album, though he must have been about 7 when it came out.

Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn.. one of the few Pink Floyd albums that I don't think I've ever heard. I bought most of the rest, but was never that big on the ones before Dark Side of the Moon.
 
2011-08-30 12:41:55 PM
Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967)

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2011-08-30 03:26:45 PM
I like Zevon's 1st album. It's no "Excitable Boy" or "Life Will Kill'Ya," but it's good.
 
2011-08-30 03:27:59 PM
Honestly, how big is the stick up your ass if you don't like License to Ill?
 
2011-08-30 03:45:17 PM
Licensed to Ill was a crappy debut album?

farking idiots.
 
2011-08-30 04:29:41 PM
I was going to come in here and ask if this was an article that overcame a crappy slideshow, but I guess it wasn't. Glad I didn't waste time flipping through it.
 
2011-08-30 04:56:15 PM
We're fully aware that people are going to hate on us from this

No, but I do hate you for saying "hate ON us FROM this" instead of "hate us FOR this".

If someone were trying to burn you alive, I'm not sure I'd intervene.
 
2011-08-30 05:08:43 PM
Left out:

upload.wikimedia.org

Is just incomprehensible in comparison to Be Somebody... or Be Somebody's Fool!
 
2011-08-30 05:10:39 PM

tallguywithglasseson: If someone were trying to burn you alive, I'm not sure I'd intervene.


What if you had just bought a big bag of kerosene? WHAT THEN????
 
2011-08-30 05:12:00 PM
They have a very loose definition of "Great"
 
2011-08-30 05:15:08 PM
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-08-30 05:16:10 PM
i110.photobucket.com

Thats right. This album totally blows, there I said it.
 
2011-08-30 05:17:33 PM

jj325: List fails for including Piper at the Gates of Dawn.


I love Pink Floyd. I enjoy most of their music, I have more live albums of theirs than I have studio albums of any other band. I didn't like Piper. There's several good tracks on there, but as a whole it is one of, if not the weakest album they ever put out.

It set the tone for what the group would become, but IMO, they became great the moment Syd left the band and Waters could write tunes and Gilmour could let loose.
 
2011-08-30 05:20:50 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

/just funnin' with ya. Can you imagine what it would be like to have your debut album sell like that, though?
 
2011-08-30 05:21:55 PM
I'm surprised Pablo Honey isn't on there. Considering what Radiohead became it is an extremely questionable.

Showbiz?

Maybe Jimmy Eat World's first album? They had somebody else singing and weren't even close to their Clarity/Bleed American levels of awesomeness. I don't know if I consider Jimmy Eat World a "great" band or not, but Clarity and BA are awesome albums.
 
2011-08-30 05:26:52 PM

tallguywithglasseson: If someone were trying to burn you alive, I'm not sure I'd intervene.


I think this may be my new favorite saying for expressing disdain. Very nicely done.
 
2011-08-30 05:28:12 PM

The Spoony Bard: [i110.photobucket.com image 200x200]

Thats right. This album totally blows, there I said it.


I don't think that was his debut album, though. Didn't he have albums before that?
 
2011-08-30 05:28:55 PM

Arachnophobe: tallguywithglasseson: If someone were trying to burn you alive, I'm not sure I'd intervene.

I think this may be my new favorite saying for expressing disdain. Very nicely done.


"Wouldn't piss on you to put out the fire..."
 
2011-08-30 05:31:37 PM
Most of the bands in this list aren't "great," and the ones that are had less crappy debut albums than the ones that aren't.

So, a total fail.
 
2011-08-30 05:32:39 PM
ecx.images-amazon.com

What an idiot. Awesome album.
 
2011-08-30 05:36:52 PM

jj325: List fails for including Piper at the Gates of Dawn.


True. It might not be your cup of tea, but it's not a terrible album.
 
2011-08-30 05:42:38 PM

timujin: I was going to come in here and ask if this was an article that overcame a crappy slideshow, but I guess it wasn't. Glad I didn't waste time flipping through it.


This!

/why do modmins hate us all
//a vote for me is a vote for no greens for slideshows!
 
2011-08-30 05:46:25 PM
There are actually some pretty interesting choices on that list. The first Bowie album, for example, is spectacularly awful in every way. And no one is really disputing the Lou Reed selection, at least not so far.

But yeah... as much as the "Piper"-era Floyd isn't really my thing, putting it on a list like this is straight-up trolling.
 
2011-08-30 05:51:25 PM

Scottybobotty: Arachnophobe: tallguywithglasseson: If someone were trying to burn you alive, I'm not sure I'd intervene.

I think this may be my new favorite saying for expressing disdain. Very nicely done.

"Wouldn't piss on you to put out the fire..."


I've always liked "would rather drink turpentine and piss on a brush fire," myself.
 
2011-08-30 05:52:55 PM
List is wrong about Piper at the Gates of Dawn, License to Ill, but right about David Bowie.
 
2011-08-30 05:53:59 PM
List fails for counting U2-3 as an album. Boy was their debut album. (Bashing U2 is too easy.)
 
2011-08-30 05:57:22 PM

kukukupo: The Spoony Bard: [i110.photobucket.com image 200x200]

Thats right. This album totally blows, there I said it.

I don't think that was his debut album, though. Didn't he have albums before that?


Beck sort of had 3 debut albums all released on different labels in 1994, I think.
 
2011-08-30 05:58:57 PM
Also:

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2011-08-30 06:06:03 PM
Blind Guardian.
 
2011-08-30 06:08:45 PM
List need the first self-titled Red Hot Chili Pepper's album.
 
2011-08-30 06:26:30 PM
I don't mind slide shows if they don't make you reload the entire page. This one did.
 
2011-08-30 06:28:40 PM
Alice Cooper's Prettys For You-1969. Before he found his voice.
 
2011-08-30 06:33:16 PM
Great Bands? Ok, U-2 maybe, and Pink Floyd...Bowie, maybe. Warren Zevon? Good, not great. The rest? No. Not.
And the first Beach Boys album (the first Capital album) is actually quite entertaining. 'Surfing' was a hit.
 
2011-08-30 06:42:36 PM
Some one add Devildriver to the list.
 
2011-08-30 06:47:55 PM
I hate the Beastie Boys. That being said License to Ill is a good album. It's the only album they've made that doesnt make me want to drink and beat my wife
 
2011-08-30 06:57:11 PM

Kazaa: Also:

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[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]


I was hoping to hell someone would mention Pantera. Good ol' eyeliner-wearing Diamond Darrell Abbott.
 
2011-08-30 07:03:35 PM
List FAILS without

Rush - "Rush" (1974)

Genesis - "From Genesis to Revelation" (1969)

Whatever Alanis Morrisette's first album was.
 
2011-08-30 07:10:53 PM
www.metalmusicarchives.com
 
2011-08-30 07:32:19 PM

iutodd32: I'm surprised Pablo Honey isn't on there. Considering what Radiohead became it is an extremely questionable.

Showbiz?

Maybe Jimmy Eat World's first album? They had somebody else singing and weren't even close to their Clarity/Bleed American levels of awesomeness. I don't know if I consider Jimmy Eat World a "great" band or not, but Clarity and BA are awesome albums.


They are two very good albums. Though I don't regard Tom Linton as "someone else singing". Switching Jim to lead vocals was the right thing to do, but Tom is very much integral to the band.

Anyway, they suck now. Well maybe not really, I'm not sure. Their last two albums went full on emo-pop, and that's not for me. Good luck to them though. See how magnanimous I am?
 
2011-08-30 08:03:50 PM
i'll join the chorus of those bashing the choice of licensed to ill. No Sleep Til Brooklyn gets blasted out of my ipod almost daily
 
2011-08-30 08:07:38 PM

LewDux: [ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]


Fo reals
 
2011-08-30 08:09:27 PM
UltimateNimrod 2011-08-30 06:28:40 PM
Alice Cooper's Prettys For You-1969. Before he found his voice.

was expecting this because they, or he, is a well known band, or singer
 
2011-08-30 08:10:05 PM

iutodd32: I'm surprised Pablo Honey isn't on there. Considering what Radiohead became it is an extremely questionable.


until about 15 minutes ago the only song i'd heard from PABLO HONEY was "creep"

now i've listened to 4 other songs, and i gotta say i like it! but i'm not the biggest RADIOHEAD fan

the bends and ok computer are incredible albums...other than that, meh
 
2011-08-30 08:12:52 PM

KrmtDfrog: i'll join the chorus of those bashing the choice of licensed to ill. No Sleep Til Brooklyn gets blasted out of my ipod almost daily


i always considered LTI to be one of the best major-label debuts in my lifetime!

i have to stipulate "major-label" considering their pre-lti stuff
 
2011-08-30 08:30:01 PM
We are being trolled. If not, these guys listen to music like farking dickheads
 
2011-08-30 08:31:15 PM

HappyHarryHardOn: We are being trolled. If not, these guys listen to music like farking dickheads

 
kab
2011-08-30 09:04:58 PM

Kazaa: List fails for counting U2-3 as an album. Boy was their debut album. (Bashing U2 is too easy.)


And regardless of where they went, Boy was a really good album IMO.

Frankly, there's a lot of metal bands that would make this list... it seems like many a) don't hit their stride till the 2nd or 3rd disc, or b) a severe lack of money can sometimes make debut albums extra-ungood.

I'd add this to the list:

upload.wikimedia.org

Yes, that's heresy to some fans, but they didn't really get the ball rolling until MAYH imo.
 
2011-08-30 09:08:57 PM

bungle_jr: iutodd32: I'm surprised Pablo Honey isn't on there. Considering what Radiohead became it is an extremely questionable.

until about 15 minutes ago the only song i'd heard from PABLO HONEY was "creep"

now i've listened to 4 other songs, and i gotta say i like it! but i'm not the biggest RADIOHEAD fan

the bends and ok computer are incredible albums...other than that, meh


I was always told to stay away from it when I initially got into Radiohead. I really don't mind it as an album though it doesn't exactly hit home like some of their others. The only real hint to what they're going on to is the final track "Blow Out" and the distinct sound it carries compared to the rest.
 
2011-08-30 09:32:27 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: List FAILS without

Rush - "Rush" (1974)


Wrong. It has some great tunes (if not great drumming) on it.
 
2011-08-30 09:56:58 PM
Tori Amos - Y KANT TONI READ? (one of those rare albums where it's easier to find a promo copy than one actually bought in a store, cause no one bought it).

Atila

And much as I love the songs, the fact that the Velvet Underground overcame the "production" on "...& Nico" is something of a miracle.
 
2011-08-30 09:57:27 PM

Third_Uncle_Eno: List FAILS without

Genesis - "From Genesis to Revelation" (1969)


Good call, they didn't really get going until Nursery Crime, IMHO
 
2011-08-30 10:01:27 PM

Kazaa: Also:

ministry's first album.jpg


came to say Ministry.

I mean if people liked that style at the time, go for it. But Ministry 6-7 years later was WAYYYY better. Would have loved to seen the look on the faces of the angsty teen girls when "You Know What You Are" started playing on Land of Rape and Honey and they were probably still expecting the ol' new-wave Al style.
 
2011-08-30 10:07:01 PM
The Afghan Whigs. - Up In It

...and Ministry's.
 
2011-08-30 10:20:07 PM
License to Ill is a masterpiece, and I'm not the sort of guy who likes rap as a rule. It's crude and sub sophomoric, but it is a masterpiece, and the Beastie Boys have more than made up for their crimes (mostly being teenage boys) with the rest of their career.
 
2011-08-30 10:56:41 PM

iutodd32: I'm surprised Pablo Honey isn't on there. Considering what Radiohead became it is an extremely questionable.


I find the attitude towards Pablo Honey to be odd. It was a very much of-its-time album, but it's still enjoyable, if not great.


as for Piper: I'd say it's dated, but I think the Mono version is infinitely superior to the stereo version. Anyone only familiar with the stereo version should check out the mono version for a much better experience.

the new Horrors album is quite nice.


also, needs to be added:

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-08-30 11:02:28 PM
svaj Quote 2011-08-30 09:57:27 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: List FAILS without

Genesis - "From Genesis to Revelation" (1969)

Good call, they didn't really get going until Nursery Crime, IMHO


I agree,

but i actually like "Trespass" better than "Nursery Cryme" sometimes


/ducks tomatoes being thrown
 
2011-08-30 11:03:30 PM

Third_Uncle_Eno: but i actually like "Trespass" better than "Nursery Cryme" sometimes


But they didn't really hit their stride until Peter Gabriel left the band...
 
2011-08-30 11:43:28 PM

Marisyana: Kazaa: Also:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x219]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]

I was hoping to hell someone would mention Pantera. Good ol' eyeliner-wearing Diamond Darrell Abbott.


I love you farkers. I hate slideshows, especially with such crappy bands.

www.outlawvideo.tv
 
2011-08-31 12:07:43 AM
Dwight_Yeast Vote Quote 2011-08-30 11:03:30 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: but i actually like "Trespass" better than "Nursery Cryme" sometimes

But they didn't really hit their stride until Peter Gabriel left the band...


LIES!!!
ALL LIES!!!!!
DON'T LISTEN TO HIM!!!!!

/ lol all kidding aside, "a trick of the tail" is probably the most consistently solid Genesis album of the 1970's.
No filler. Nothing like "time table" or "more fool me" on it.
(although i did hate "robbery assault and battery", It grew on me. like the fungus in the "firth of fifth" in-concert stories.)
 
2011-08-31 12:47:02 AM

Third_Uncle_Eno: svaj Quote 2011-08-30 09:57:27 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: List FAILS without

Genesis - "From Genesis to Revelation" (1969)

Good call, they didn't really get going until Nursery Crime, IMHO

I agree,

but i actually like "Trespass" better than "Nursery Cryme" sometimes


/ducks tomatoes being thrown


No tomatoes from me, "The Knife" is one of their best, IMHO
 
2011-08-31 01:09:52 AM
HappyHarryHardOn Quote 2011-08-31 12:47:02 AM
Third_Uncle_Eno: svaj Quote 2011-08-30 09:57:27 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: List FAILS without

Genesis - "From Genesis to Revelation" (1969)

Good call, they didn't really get going until Nursery Crime, IMHO

I agree,

but i actually like "Trespass" better than "Nursery Cryme" sometimes


/ducks tomatoes being thrown

No tomatoes from me, "The Knife" is one of their best, IMHO


Especially the live version! on......you guessed it......."Genesis Live" (1974)
 
2011-08-31 01:36:01 AM

Alphax: Mostly bands I don't listen to anyway.

Beastie Boys - License to Ill? I thought that was their good one, though I'm far from an expert on them. My little brother had that album, though he must have been about 7 when it came out.


Paul's Boutique is usually cited as their greatest, but License to Ill was a good album. They have more than one good one.

Anyway, you can also tell they don't know what they're talking about by the fact that they criticize the songs for being juvenile and fratty, when they were actually satirizing frat boy mentality. That's how they got their big break, if I remember right.

DenisBergkamp: bungle_jr: iutodd32: I'm surprised Pablo Honey isn't on there. Considering what Radiohead became it is an extremely questionable.

until about 15 minutes ago the only song i'd heard from PABLO HONEY was "creep"

now i've listened to 4 other songs, and i gotta say i like it! but i'm not the biggest RADIOHEAD fan

the bends and ok computer are incredible albums...other than that, meh

I was always told to stay away from it when I initially got into Radiohead. I really don't mind it as an album though it doesn't exactly hit home like some of their others. The only real hint to what they're going on to is the final track "Blow Out" and the distinct sound it carries compared to the rest.


I agree that Pablo Honey should be on there but I also agree with you. It's isn't really a crappy album, but it is relative to what they became. Mostly color by numbers music. I was so confused when I first listened to it because I could have sworn I'd heard it before, and I don't mean that in a good way.
 
2011-08-31 01:54:03 AM

Third_Uncle_Eno: Genesis - "From Genesis to Revelation" (1969)


Was just thinking about that.. though I probably would have gotten the album name wrong.
 
2011-08-31 02:04:06 AM

RivenSilver: Blind Guardian.


I wouldn't call the first few Blind Guardian albums bad, but they were a mere shadow of what was to come. "Somewhere Far Beyond" was the first Great album.

On the topic of Metal, Iced Earth's self titled first album is still their worst, with a lousy singer.

Also, I'd put Metallica on the list for "Kill 'Em All", but I'm aware that many Farkers consider it their best album for some reason.
 
2011-08-31 02:39:08 AM
cf.mp-cdn.net

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2011-08-31 03:31:05 AM

Adebisi: [www.metalmusicarchives.com image 350x350]


[kevin+spacey+as+lex+luthor - WRONG!.jpg]
 
2011-08-31 05:26:08 AM

skylabdown: The Afghan Whigs. - Up In It.


img15.nnm.ru

/thought BTH was generic late-80s college rock.
//thought UII was slightly more distinctive.
///agree they hit their undeniable stride with Congregation and what followed when they moved to the majors.
 
2011-08-31 06:30:00 AM
I don't wanna sound gay or nothin' but Depeche Mode's first album isn't pretty sweet.

It's absolutely awful.
 
2011-08-31 08:29:54 AM
From Genesis to Revelations is a good call. Very early stuff. The bad was not really calling their own shots at this point. I did like everything with Peter Gabriel from the Knife to Lamb. After Hackett left I started to dislike them a lot.
 
2011-09-02 05:48:31 PM
www.vinylsurrender.com
awesome record.
 
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