ZAZ: John Birch

Now THERE is someone who should come back from the grave to dismember the people that use his name.

I certainly wasn't expecting an Abba link.

Copyright law will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

bigworld2000: I certainly wasn't expecting an Abba link.

I think all speeches should be rerecorded by Abba.

Abba... *shudder*

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DON'T KEEP REINFORCING STEREOTYPES!

Someone needs to make a Malcolm X / MLK "I Have A Dream/You've Been Bamboozled" speech remix.

Mugato: Well that's the sickest thing I've read in the last hour and I just came out of a Santorum thread.

/ew, that didn't sound good

I have a deram.

/and a draem

What kind of family would charge a licensing fee to a foundation seeking to place their father in the pantheon of giants like Lincoln and Jefferson? Apparently, King's family, to the tune of $800,000, the Associated Press reported in 2009

http://www.boston.com/community/blogs/hyphenated_life/2011/08/he_was_ s till_warm_in_1.html

shlabotnik: I have a deram.

/and a draem

drame

There's an odd bit with the original releases of the speeches on record. Recently Pawn Stars had a guy come in with one of the albums and turns out it was a hit record. We're talking gold baby. So, there's the issue, when those were released they made money. Who should that go to? Dr. King, "the artist"? The record company that pressed and released it? Since he was still alive, his church? Sound engineers??? Yeah, I was in the music business and this is the same crap, it get's stupidly complicated due to lawyerisms. And it can be stated that, though nowhere near as historically significant, other great recordings have become iconographically linked to American history, such as Hendrix's Star-Spangled Banner. Fair use is allowed and I doubt the King family would be such dikmovers as to deny access to schools and such. Would suck to have the "I Have a Dream" Speech Hour presented by Colt 45 though, don't you think?

/ And you just know that would happen

James F. Campbell: Copyright law will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

I would like to have seen Montana.

Very sad. Out of the many great speeches ever given, I can see and read John F. Kennedy's speech in Berlin, but King's influential speech falls under copyright issues.

Mugato: DavidVincent: DON'T KEEP REINFORCING STEREOTYPES!

What stereotype? They're black, not Jewish.

He was black !?!

Theaetetus: Since the earlier bit was deleted, I'mma repost this part to hopefully forestall any racist comments:

A wise reader would realize that the MLK, Jr. v. Fox copyright infringement case was in 1963, five years before he was killed, and so not try to place words in his mouth about spinning in his grave about his family's actions.

He did like his...

FTA:"The family controls the copyright of the speech for 70 years after King's death, in 2038."

By the time 2038 rolls around, I'm sure copyrights will be infinite.

I would like to see the whole King Family in Soul Plane 2, playing themselves.

DavidVincent: Mugato: DavidVincent: DON'T KEEP REINFORCING STEREOTYPES!

What stereotype? They're black, not Jewish.

He was black !?!

I can see how you might be confused, given the last name.

Mugato: DavidVincent: DON'T KEEP REINFORCING STEREOTYPES!

What stereotype? They're black, not Jewish.

Those people don't need blanket statements,

And THIS is why copyright is completely broken.

Even if we are going to allow the concept of copyright at all (which is NOT a forgone conclusion at this point) it needs to be significantly reigned in.

The first thing we need to do is make copyright expire IMMEDIATELY at the death of the author. The whole purpose of copyright is to encourage production of new works to enrich the public domain when it expires. A dead man is going to produce exactly nothing, and therefore all existing material should become public domain.

Then we need to get copyright terms under control. At this point, anything that isn't already public domain can't go out of copyright until 2019 at the earliest.

A more reasonable term would be 5 years, with the possibility of a single 5 year extension for books, paintings, and music, but no extensions possible for software and movies.

But the abolition of copyright should also be considered. It is, after all, basically theft from the public domain.

Theaetetus:
Two wrong do not make a right.

Dr King should have ignored those records (if that's what the suin was over) - he didn't, and look how his kids turned out.

Copyright just sucks, period.

Mugato: DavidVincent: DON'T KEEP REINFORCING STEREOTYPES!

What stereotype? They're black, not Jewish.

Wait, we're talking about the guy with the suspenders aren't we?

Dear Redacted,

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/obscure?

I see. Plagiarism is okay when he does it for his Doctorate but its bad when it comes to his I have a dream speech. Noted.

http://www.cracked.com/article_17198_5-great-men-who-built-their-care e rs-plagiarism.html

DavidVincent: DON'T KEEP REINFORCING STEREOTYPES!

Not sure the stereotypes in question were racial.

Why the f*ck is something that was recorded in 1963 still copyrighted?

(Answer: Corrupt copyright and IP laws)

How nubianrdly of them.

i would think with that speech that the family would wavt everyone to hear it and live it but i guess money is more important. i can't afford it so my kids will not hear it or live it.

I guess his family is showing the content of their character. Endless greed.