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2011-08-29 11:08:43 AM  

lolcatlover: and they claim we are worse drivers until age 25? yeah, right.


Statistically women ARE worse drivers. They cause/get into far more accidents then men IIRC, BUT, most of those are fender benders. Young males are far more likely to total their car when they get into an accident.

/incident, sorry
//turned 25 exactly a month ago, i should see if my insurance went down...
 
2011-08-29 11:12:52 AM  

lolcatlover: trappedspirit: Hey, if you can afford it, go for it. The quicker we get rid of fossil fuels the quicker we will finally move on to some serious alternatives. Sometimes I just buy a gallon of gas and set it on fire. For the planet.

if you would like to send me this gas in the mail, i would happily accept. my lovely wagon here would take it in a heartbeat

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You do realize you are never ever going to be able to kill that car no matter what you do. Beware buying those Volvo stationwagons. If you change the oil and regularly maintain it, it will refuse to die ever, and look at you with sad puppy-dog eyes when you try to sell it. Consider yourself warned. I sold mine, and still feel like a betrayed a close personal friend YEARS later.
 
2011-08-29 11:13:15 AM  
Really? A Veyron? Well I was going to get one but seeing how pitiful it does on gas mileage, I think I'll go with something else now.

Oh and suspiciously absent is my 2001 Pontiac Grand Am. That thing gets NO gas mileage at all. I think it's mainly because the gas tank is so tiny (10 gallons I think). But srsly, I have to put 20 in the tank at least twice a week.
 
2011-08-29 11:14:18 AM  

Cyno01: lolcatlover: and they claim we are worse drivers until age 25? yeah, right.

Statistically women ARE worse drivers. They cause/get into far more accidents then men IIRC, BUT, most of those are fender benders. Young males are far more likely to total their car when they get into an accident.

/incident, sorry
//turned 25 exactly a month ago, i should see if my insurance went down...


Does the type of accident matter? We have a "no fault" insurance system here, and when you get in an accident, your rates go up the same regardless of the type of accident.

My license plate holder put a "ring" in a guys bumper that you could only see from less than a foot away, and his bumper was already scratched to shiat on the side, I offered to repaint the whole thing, but he wanted extra cash on top of it, so I said go fark yourself. Not knowing the former of course - so now my rates are going up no different than as if I had written off a Bentley. farking bullshiat.
 
2011-08-29 11:15:57 AM  

ACryer: I was cringing as I read it-expecting my Charger RT to be there. Woot- 70 bucks a week.


out of my 8 cars my Charger Daytona is the most fuel efficient vehicle I have! I average about 20-21 and only get 17-18 with my Legacy GT. Which takes second place.....
 
2011-08-29 11:16:06 AM  
I have 2 vehicles: 2007 Ford Focus ZX3 and 2009 Jeep JK Unlimited. Both are paid for. I also drive 80miles a day minimum for work.

Total cost in gas for the jeep if it was driven to work: ~ $95 a week.

Total Cost in gas for the Focus: ~ $47a week or a savings of $2444 a year. Lets do all of the math and see how it works out.

$2444
- $720 (insurance)
$1724
- $180 (oil changes)
$1544
- $60 (registration)

$1484. So i would have to spend $1484 in other maintenace before it would be a wash. So far it has been very reliable car. Assuming it doesn't need any serious mechanical work that i can't do myself it will take 5yrs for the car to pay for itself. However, i don't really think that's a credible assumption.

The jeep doesn't come out as much as it used to, but it's still great for beach trips and i take 3-4 serious offroad trips each year. It only gets filled up about once a month. But F U, if you think i'm getting rid of it! Cuz it's bad azz is why, WHOOOO!
 
2011-08-29 11:17:41 AM  

3StratMan: flaminio: Somehow I doubt the Veyron and Bentley owners care about their MPGs. (Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.)

And as mentioned above, an 11-person van will do OK in terms of MPG per person.

The real horrorshows of the list are the pick-up trucks. I see lots of these on the road every day, stuck in commuter traffic, with only the driver inside. If you have a big pick-up truck, and you're not some kind of construction worker, you've failed at life. Sorry.

Judging pick-up truck drivers without knowing each of their individual situations shows you're failing at life, buddy. Unless you know the story about the lone guy you see in the pick-up stuck in traffic, STFU.

The payments we make for our crossover and pick-up don't allow us to have another vehicle, so my pick-up is my daily driver. I'm not "some kind of construction worker", but my pick-up sure does come in handy towing my 23 foot camper, with a boat riding on top of the truck, loaded with gear, to take my family camping in the U.P. of Michigan several times a year. Or for hauling the mulch, top soil and other yard stuff the wife wants to fix up the yard with every spring. Or when any of the family or friends need help moving some furniture or appliances from point A to B. Or when I have to haul my 110 gallon smoker to cook BBQ for a party. Get back to me when you figure out how to do any of that in a Prius.


Own the car with good mileage.

Rent the truck from Enterprise on the weekends when you need the hauler. They are super-cheap - $70/day all in or less. I know lots of urban dwellers who do this.
 
2011-08-29 11:20:05 AM  

Gramma: Kit Fister: F150, huh? So that Eco-boost is BS?

/glad he didn't buy the F150.
//Shoulda bought a 2500 with a diesel, though.
///And a plow.
////that name again is Mr. plow...

I drive an F150, 2008 so no ecoboost and I get 17mpg in the city.


I wish I got 17mpg city. I have an 04 f-150 with the v8 and I get around 13 mpg with mixed driving. Driving this until it falls apart then downsizing. No longer have the need for a truck that I used to.
 
2011-08-29 11:20:07 AM  
I have a 2007 Suburban. Tooling around town, because of the frakking trafffic lights, I get about 10-12 MPG. On the Highway, or even cruising on streets, the active-fuel managent system shuts off 4 cyliders. There are times I get upwards of 25 MPG. (on the highway).
Yes, it was a necessary evil when I had a family.
As a side note, in an accident, between my Suburban and a Smart Car or Prius, I'm pretty sure I'll be the one asking if everyone is OK.
Small is not always better.
 
2011-08-29 11:20:24 AM  
I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.
 
2011-08-29 11:20:33 AM  
mefi.us

Keep crying about gasoline biatches ... this is my daily driver ...

/Purchased May 21st of this year
//Driven almost 11,000 miles since then
///According to Fuelly, I've spent $1,899.78 on gas since then ...
//I'd probably drive just as much at $10.00/gallon
/SLASHIES!!!
 
2011-08-29 11:22:30 AM  
No mention of a SD45 with its 20-645???
 
2011-08-29 11:25:43 AM  

Another Pretentious Nickname: Kit Fister: F150, huh? So that Eco-boost is BS?

/glad he didn't buy the F150.
//Shoulda bought a 2500 with a diesel, though.
///And a plow.
////that name again is Mr. plow...

But according to the picture, the F150 can fly.



Oh they can. Youtube some Raptor jump clips, you'll see.

Link (new window)

My GF has a white one, it's a badass truck and a hoot to drive. I couldn't drive it everyday like her though, I like cars too much.
 
2011-08-29 11:25:43 AM  

Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.


Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?
 
2011-08-29 11:27:05 AM  

3StratMan: flaminio: Somehow I doubt the Veyron and Bentley owners care about their MPGs. (Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.)

And as mentioned above, an 11-person van will do OK in terms of MPG per person.

The real horrorshows of the list are the pick-up trucks. I see lots of these on the road every day, stuck in commuter traffic, with only the driver inside. If you have a big pick-up truck, and you're not some kind of construction worker, you've failed at life. Sorry.



Jesus christ, do you people ever listen to yourselves? Are you 18? Have you lived your entire life in a dense urban area? What the fark is wrong with you people?
 
2011-08-29 11:28:16 AM  

EvilEgg: Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?


Derp derp derp derp?
 
2011-08-29 11:29:32 AM  

EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?


A motorcyclist killed a guy in a Suburban on US19 a few years back. Hit him right in the driver's door and that was it.

Size is no guarantee of survival. Better off giving your kid a small, maneuverable car with a manual transmission if you want them to become a good driver.
 
2011-08-29 11:33:37 AM  

Johnny Savage: I let my wife drive just to watch her. When I wasn't cowered in the passenger seat in fright I noticed she was constantly lightly pumping the gas. The speed was overall constant, but the RPMs were just dancing up and down. That's probably your wife's problem as well. I don't know how you can break someone of that.


Does yours know how to use the cruise control? Because I've shown mine a bunch of times and she still doesn't use it.
 
2011-08-29 11:34:39 AM  

Timmy the Tumor: I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.


That's part of the reason we went with the Jetta Sportwagen. IIHS top safety pick and all that. Still gets over 40 mpg highway.
 
2011-08-29 11:34:54 AM  

tricycleracer: EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?

A motorcyclist killed a guy in a Suburban on US19 a few years back. Hit him right in the driver's door and that was it.

Size is no guarantee of survival. Better off giving your kid a small, maneuverable car with a manual transmission if you want them to become a good driver.


As someone who had one of my parents' Civic in high school, I can honestly say that size makes a hell of a difference. I live on the east side of Cleveland we we get upwards of 150+ inches of snow every year. All the kids who had FWD cars, like me, inevitably slid into a ditch at one point or another. I was unlucky enough to go in one with a nice landscaping boulder at the bottom of it and it blew the passenger airbag off. Had I been in the Suburban we had or a larger car, that stone would have slid right under the car instead of into the bottom of the front core support.

I love cars over SUVs, but when and if I ever have a kid, they'll be driving in the biggest farking thing out there. Slides off the road, impacts with other vehicles and objects, and whatever other hooning 16 year olds do these days will be greatly reduced in a Suburban than any other car out there. Plus, I won't feel as bad when a fender bender in a Suburban makes a minor dent on the steel bumper instead of caving in the entire plastic body of any new car, my Audis included.
 
2011-08-29 11:35:11 AM  

tricycleracer: EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?

A motorcyclist killed a guy in a Suburban on US19 a few years back. Hit him right in the driver's door and that was it.

Size is no guarantee of survival. Better off giving your kid a small, maneuverable car with a manual transmission if you want them to become a good driver.


Ya, that small car will save them, they can just move when a car is about to hit them.
 
2011-08-29 11:38:47 AM  

Director_Mr: You do realize you are never ever going to be able to kill that car no matter what you do. Beware buying those Volvo stationwagons. If you change the oil and regularly maintain it, it will refuse to die ever, and look at you with sad puppy-dog eyes when you try to sell it. Consider yourself warned. I sold mine, and still feel like a betrayed a close personal friend YEARS later.


Ah, well, what can I say. Some people will throw personal image concerns out the window and drive whatever gets them there
:)
 
2011-08-29 11:39:43 AM  

EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?


That's how America rolls. Everyone is focused on #1. Nobody cares about other Americans or their country. Dependence on foreign oil, air pollution, danger to others... fark all that. Let's just buy a big ass-truck and drive it solo as much as humanly possible.

/rant off
 
2011-08-29 11:39:49 AM  
I'm remodeling my house. How do I get a sheet of plywood or drywall in a VW Diesel car? I keep my truck around as a 3rd car in case something happens to the other 2 or I need to move something that won't fit in the other cars.
 
2011-08-29 11:41:23 AM  

Ant: I Mash Grains: My sister in law is leasing an Escalade right now - she was bragging about the 'screaming deal' she got for it. She doesn't brag much any more since she has to pay to fill the thing up.

She's not well off, just stupid.

I just don't understand getting an SUV that you'll never take offroad. What fun could it possibly be? My little car (Saab 9-2x Aero) is actually fun to drive everyday. A big SUV just seems like you're driving your living room around. Bad handling, bad mileage, bad acceleration, etc.


For 90%+ of these people it's a status symbol.

My father worked at Home Depot and couldn't believe the number of people that came in with Heavy Duty/Super Duty Quad Cab pickup trucks and then had the stuff they bought delivered because they didn't want the truck scratched/dirtied.

I happened to be there once when a guy with a brand new, fully loaded, Ford F350 had 5 bags of cement and sauna tubing delivered because he was afraid the bed of his truck would get scratched. And he had no problem telling everyone that was why he had it delivered. I was flabbergasted.

I recently traded my Trailblazer for a 2011 Buick Regal turbo with a 6-speed manual and better than doubled my gas mileage. I was amazed when the dealer actually talked me down from the larger Lacrosse. I was concerned about comfort and room since I commute 2 hours a day. I just hope I don't miss the 4WD I had in the TB. I only used it maybe a half-dozen times a winter but when I did it was because I absolutely needed it. Changed jobs though and no longer working weekends and can work from home if necessary. I'm already missing the cargo room but I can borrow a larger vehicle if I need to.
 
2011-08-29 11:41:36 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: I'm remodeling my house. How do I get a sheet of plywood or drywall in a VW Diesel car? I keep my truck around as a 3rd car in case something happens to the other 2 or I need to move something that won't fit in the other cars.


www.ricedrides.com

Easy peasy ...
 
2011-08-29 11:46:39 AM  
Best thing I did to improve milage on my Ranger was to get a locking gas cap....
 
2011-08-29 11:46:48 AM  

Jument: EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?

That's how America rolls. Everyone is focused on #1. Nobody cares about other Americans or their country. Dependence on foreign oil, air pollution, danger to others... fark all that. Let's just buy a big ass-truck and drive it solo as much as humanly possible.

/rant off


Hahahahahahahaha.


Go f*ck a tree.

I taught her to drive in a 400 hp sportscar, sent her to Bondourant driving school for teens, and will send her to advanced driving school next Spring.

I'm not worried about her smacking into someone else, I'm worried about some asshat hitting her. If that happens, I want her safe, I don't particularly care about some dickhead in a hybrid who can't handle a turn because he's on 14" x 4" tires.
 
2011-08-29 11:49:10 AM  

flaminio: Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.


That won't even get you halfway to the gym.
 
2011-08-29 11:54:26 AM  

trappedspirit: Director_Mr: You do realize you are never ever going to be able to kill that car no matter what you do. Beware buying those Volvo stationwagons. If you change the oil and regularly maintain it, it will refuse to die ever, and look at you with sad puppy-dog eyes when you try to sell it. Consider yourself warned. I sold mine, and still feel like a betrayed a close personal friend YEARS later.

Ah, well, what can I say. Some people will throw personal image concerns out the window and drive whatever gets them there
:)


Ironically, I sold mine because I was worried it would start to become unreliable. 2 cars later (for me), the Volvo is still running (I sold it to a friend for $500). I think the volvo may have almost 300,000 miles on it. The biggest repairs have been changing the alternator or starter.
 
2011-08-29 11:55:21 AM  

Callous: My father worked at Home Depot and couldn't believe the number of people that came in with Heavy Duty/Super Duty Quad Cab pickup trucks and then had the stuff they bought delivered because they didn't want the truck scratched/dirtied.


Yeah, a bunch of the trucks out there aren't because the people actually wanted a truck, they wanted something truckish. My truck gets used for the dirty hauling jobs, but that's pretty much it (other than driving it every few weeks to make sure it's in decent shape).

My regular vehicle is a Grand Cherokee, but the reason I have that is because it's comfortable. I like the upright seating position; it doesn't fatigue like being stretched out as in many cars. I also like the interior cargo capacity, which does get used from time to time. But generally, I like the vehicle.

Too many people on Fark are very eager to reinvent your own preferences to suit their image of what life ought to be. Fark that. Drive whatever you like.
 
2011-08-29 11:57:21 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: I'm remodeling my house. How do I get a sheet of plywood or drywall in a VW Diesel car?


Ummm.. rent one at Home Depot for $19 for the first 75 minutes?
 
2011-08-29 11:57:37 AM  

Timmy the Tumor: Jument: EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?

That's how America rolls. Everyone is focused on #1. Nobody cares about other Americans or their country. Dependence on foreign oil, air pollution, danger to others... fark all that. Let's just buy a big ass-truck and drive it solo as much as humanly possible.

/rant off

Hahahahahahahaha.


Go f*ck a tree.

I taught her to drive in a 400 hp sportscar, sent her to Bondourant driving school for teens, and will send her to advanced driving school next Spring.

I'm not worried about her smacking into someone else, I'm worried about some asshat hitting her. If that happens, I want her safe, I don't particularly care about some dickhead in a hybrid who can't handle a turn because he's on 14" x 4" tires.


Thanks for demonstrating my point so perfectly.
 
2011-08-29 12:00:08 PM  

ha-ha-guy: How the fark do people moving vans count?

Standard compact car: Holds 5 (uncomfortably) | 35 mpg
People Moving Van: Holds 10 to 11 (somewhat uncomfortably) | 16 mpg

Works out to be about even.


Those compact cars are only carrying the driver most of the time. If the van averages even three passengers, then it blows the compact cars out of the water efficiency-wise.

And yeah, including working commercial vans? C'mon. Why not include the NASA crawler while you're at it; I bet it gets terrible mileage.
 
2011-08-29 12:03:13 PM  

Callous: Ant: I Mash Grains: My sister in law is leasing an Escalade right now - she was bragging about the 'screaming deal' she got for it. She doesn't brag much any more since she has to pay to fill the thing up.

She's not well off, just stupid.

I just don't understand getting an SUV that you'll never take offroad. What fun could it possibly be? My little car (Saab 9-2x Aero) is actually fun to drive everyday. A big SUV just seems like you're driving your living room around. Bad handling, bad mileage, bad acceleration, etc.

For 90%+ of these people it's a status symbol.

My father worked at Home Depot and couldn't believe the number of people that came in with Heavy Duty/Super Duty Quad Cab pickup trucks and then had the stuff they bought delivered because they didn't want the truck scratched/dirtied.

I happened to be there once when a guy with a brand new, fully loaded, Ford F350 had 5 bags of cement and sauna tubing delivered because he was afraid the bed of his truck would get scratched. And he had no problem telling everyone that was why he had it delivered. I was flabbergasted.

I recently traded my Trailblazer for a 2011 Buick Regal turbo with a 6-speed manual and better than doubled my gas mileage. I was amazed when the dealer actually talked me down from the larger Lacrosse. I was concerned about comfort and room since I commute 2 hours a day. I just hope I don't miss the 4WD I had in the TB. I only used it maybe a half-dozen times a winter but when I did it was because I absolutely needed it. Changed jobs though and no longer working weekends and can work from home if necessary. I'm already missing the cargo room but I can borrow a larger vehicle if I need to.


For 90% of hybrid owners, it is a status symbol as well. They don't care about money, they care about their feelings and saving the environment.
 
2011-08-29 12:05:17 PM  

seadoo2006: [mefi.us image 500x63]

Keep crying about gasoline biatches ... this is my daily driver ...

/Purchased May 21st of this year
//Driven almost 11,000 miles since then
///According to Fuelly, I've spent $1,899.78 on gas since then ...
//I'd probably drive just as much at $10.00/gallon
/SLASHIES!!!


10 miles round trip for me per day. 17mpg. Works for me.
 
2011-08-29 12:07:37 PM  
Heh, the millionaire that shares office space with us has the ML63.
 
2011-08-29 12:16:06 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I'm remodeling my house. How do I get a sheet of plywood or drywall in a VW Diesel car? I keep my truck around as a 3rd car in case something happens to the other 2 or I need to move something that won't fit in the other cars.


First, you'd be surprised how much can fit in a hatchback. I redid my bathroom and our new vanity fit in the trunk of our Jetta wagon without folding the seats, and the flooring we picked up at CostCo fit in addition to a 40 pound bag of dog food and $200 worth of other CostCo sized stuff. Heck, the toilet fit in the back of my Scion xA with the back seats folded down.

But when I redid our fence I bought 6' x 8' panels to make it easier on myself. To get them home I paid $20 and rented the truck they keep at Lowes. It's a lot cheaper than insuring and registering a spare car just for the couple occasions a year I might need to carry something big.
 
2011-08-29 12:17:04 PM  

The-Brain: flaminio: Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.

That won't even get you halfway to the gym.


avatar.movetoiceland.com
 
2011-08-29 12:18:42 PM  

I Mash Grains: I drive a Pontiac Vibe that gets about 35 MPG, so I laugh at her


You drive a Pontiac Vibe, you really shouldn't be laughing at anyone
 
2011-08-29 12:19:05 PM  

Crackers Are a Family Food: flaminio: (Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.)

Then there is no reason that my stupid Grand Am isn't on that list.

/farking horrible mileage
//don't ever get one if gas money is gonna be an issue


That's odd...

I get nearly 30 highway out of mine (an '04 GT sedan)
 
2011-08-29 12:21:56 PM  

FrancoFile: 3StratMan: flaminio: Somehow I doubt the Veyron and Bentley owners care about their MPGs. (Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.)

And as mentioned above, an 11-person van will do OK in terms of MPG per person.

The real horrorshows of the list are the pick-up trucks. I see lots of these on the road every day, stuck in commuter traffic, with only the driver inside. If you have a big pick-up truck, and you're not some kind of construction worker, you've failed at life. Sorry.

Judging pick-up truck drivers without knowing each of their individual situations shows you're failing at life, buddy. Unless you know the story about the lone guy you see in the pick-up stuck in traffic, STFU.

The payments we make for our crossover and pick-up don't allow us to have another vehicle, so my pick-up is my daily driver. I'm not "some kind of construction worker", but my pick-up sure does come in handy towing my 23 foot camper, with a boat riding on top of the truck, loaded with gear, to take my family camping in the U.P. of Michigan several times a year. Or for hauling the mulch, top soil and other yard stuff the wife wants to fix up the yard with every spring. Or when any of the family or friends need help moving some furniture or appliances from point A to B. Or when I have to haul my 110 gallon smoker to cook BBQ for a party. Get back to me when you figure out how to do any of that in a Prius.

Own the car with good mileage.

Rent the truck from Enterprise on the weekends when you need the hauler. They are super-cheap - $70/day all in or less. I know lots of urban dwellers who do this.


That makes no sense, except for maybe a know-it-all Farker. I still need 2 vehicles to get me and the wife to our jobs. Your idea calls for me to make 2 monthly vehicle payments PLUS rental fees at least 2 or 3 times a month when I need to rent a truck to haul stuff. Also, who knows what kind of piece of crap rental truck I will get when I'm done waiting 30 minutes or more in line at the rental place, plus the time I'll spend disinfecting it since I'm not sure if the 3 people who rented it before me actually washed their hands after they took that shiat before returning the truck. I also don't really know the maintenance record of the vehicle I'm renting, so I don't know if I can really trust it to haul my family, the boat and the camper on a 1200 mile trip to the U.P. and back without some major problem. And it surely doesn't have a winch built on to pull me out if I get stuck on the 2-track on the way to my secret fishing lake.

You plan only makes sense for Prius owners hell bent on saving the world.
 
2011-08-29 12:22:48 PM  

rikerdude: I have a 2007 Suburban. Tooling around town, because of the frakking trafffic lights, I get about 10-12 MPG. On the Highway, or even cruising on streets, the active-fuel managent system shuts off 4 cyliders. There are times I get upwards of 25 MPG. (on the highway).
Yes, it was a necessary evil when I had a family.
As a side note, in an accident, between my Suburban and a Smart Car or Prius, I'm pretty sure I'll be the one asking if everyone is OK.
Small is not always better.


There is a solution to the "size" issue. Make the heavier vehicle take more responsibility for the damages (insurance pay a higher percentage of the total damages). They've been doing this in Asia for years. There are very few 100% single party fault cases. For example someone running the tail end of a light would take about 80% of the fault. Even though the other party was in the right to go at a green light, he should have been watching for stragglers running the light. He takes the other 20%. In a case where the accident would be deemed 50/50 (2 people running a stop sign) the heavier vehicle, depending on weight, might incur an additional 5-25% of the responsibility due the the fact heavier vehicles cause more damage when involved in accidents.

You'll be amazed how careful truckers have become taking care not to hit other smaller vehicles, and how much care everyone takes around pedestrians, scooters and motorcycles.

Makes sense: bigger vehicle does more damage.
 
2011-08-29 12:23:55 PM  

Timmy the Tumor: Jument: EvilEgg: Timmy the Tumor: I have a teenage daughter driving now.

I have her in a gigantic SUV instead of some tiny Smart Car/Hyundai/Prius/similar, because if she gets in an accident, I want her to survive.

Well, that, and I want my carbon footprint to be as big as possible.

Too bad on the guy she kills, huh?

That's how America rolls. Everyone is focused on #1. Nobody cares about other Americans or their country. Dependence on foreign oil, air pollution, danger to others... fark all that. Let's just buy a big ass-truck and drive it solo as much as humanly possible.

/rant off

Hahahahahahahaha.


Go f*ck a tree.

I taught her to drive in a 400 hp sportscar, sent her to Bondourant driving school for teens, and will send her to advanced driving school next Spring.

I'm not worried about her smacking into someone else, I'm worried about some asshat hitting her. If that happens, I want her safe, I don't particularly care about some dickhead in a hybrid who can't handle a turn because he's on 14" x 4" tires.


Interestingly, if she kills a guy guess who Darwin says the winner is? Hint, it's probably not in the hybrid. And I do spend my days worrying about my family. If that makes me self centered and only looking out for #1 the so be it. I like being #1.

To be fair, in my daily driving it seems you need to be afraid of some chick in a large SUV talking on the phone and not paying attention to what's going on in front of them. They have the phone to their ear in vehicles that I know come with hands free calling built in. Either way, the best defense against them on I-10 in Houston is to have a decently large vehicle. I have an '11 Sportage. It's not by any means huge (and averages 26mpg daily driving with up to 31 mpg on the highway with the cruise at 69 mph), but it has enough mass to be able to take a solid hit from a large vehicle with a decent survivability chance. Plus I like having a 6 speed manual.

My sister has a Naviagator, but before people start talking about how she hates her fellow Americans can they explain how to haul 3 kids, 2 adults, gear, and be able to pull a 6,000+ lbs stock trailer using a Prius? We'd all like to know as it does cost a lot of money to operate. But she hasn't found another vehicle with those capabilities.
 
2011-08-29 12:26:29 PM  

The-Brain: flaminio: Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.

That won't even get you halfway to the gym.


At full throttle, you'll have most likely passed it several times over.
 
2011-08-29 12:26:38 PM  

sandreckoner: 3StratMan: flaminio: Somehow I doubt the Veyron and Bentley owners care about their MPGs. (Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.)

And as mentioned above, an 11-person van will do OK in terms of MPG per person.

The real horrorshows of the list are the pick-up trucks. I see lots of these on the road every day, stuck in commuter traffic, with only the driver inside. If you have a big pick-up truck, and you're not some kind of construction worker, you've failed at life. Sorry.


Jesus christ, do you people ever listen to yourselves? Are you 18? Have you lived your entire life in a dense urban area? What the fark is wrong with you people?


For the record, Sandreckoner...I own a Hemi Ram- Flaminio is the one calling guys like me a failure at life.
 
2011-08-29 12:29:54 PM  
Is VW quality really as bad as I have been hearing lately? Or was it bad in the 2000's and is starting to rebound? I really like the looks of the 2012 Beetle Turbo and its on my list of cars I would consider buying next summer.

If diesel was closer in prie to gas I would consider the TDI, but with it already costing more to buy the TDI option and diesel being more expensive I dont think I would make up the cost just on the better mileage.
 
2011-08-29 12:34:28 PM  

Swoop1809: Is VW quality really as bad as I have been hearing lately? Or was it bad in the 2000's and is starting to rebound? I really like the looks of the 2012 Beetle Turbo and its on my list of cars I would consider buying next summer.


We've had ours for almost two years and while it's still under warranty it's been nothing but reliable. The only thing that's gone wrong is the latch that holds up the adjustable center armrest.

But I know a fantastic, reasonable VW mechanic nearby so I'm prepared.
 
2011-08-29 12:38:32 PM  

Swoop1809: Is VW quality really as bad as I have been hearing lately? Or was it bad in the 2000's and is starting to rebound? I really like the looks of the 2012 Beetle Turbo and its on my list of cars I would consider buying next summer.

If diesel was closer in prie to gas I would consider the TDI, but with it already costing more to buy the TDI option and diesel being more expensive I dont think I would make up the cost just on the better mileage.


It's been WAY better recently (2008-). They've really made huge strides apparently.
 
2011-08-29 12:39:04 PM  

3StratMan: FrancoFile: 3StratMan: flaminio: Somehow I doubt the Veyron and Bentley owners care about their MPGs. (Fun fact: a Veyron at full throttle will consume an entire tank of gasoline in 12 minutes.)

And as mentioned above, an 11-person van will do OK in terms of MPG per person.

The real horrorshows of the list are the pick-up trucks. I see lots of these on the road every day, stuck in commuter traffic, with only the driver inside. If you have a big pick-up truck, and you're not some kind of construction worker, you've failed at life. Sorry.

Judging pick-up truck drivers without knowing each of their individual situations shows you're failing at life, buddy. Unless you know the story about the lone guy you see in the pick-up stuck in traffic, STFU.

The payments we make for our crossover and pick-up don't allow us to have another vehicle, so my pick-up is my daily driver. I'm not "some kind of construction worker", but my pick-up sure does come in handy towing my 23 foot camper, with a boat riding on top of the truck, loaded with gear, to take my family camping in the U.P. of Michigan several times a year. Or for hauling the mulch, top soil and other yard stuff the wife wants to fix up the yard with every spring. Or when any of the family or friends need help moving some furniture or appliances from point A to B. Or when I have to haul my 110 gallon smoker to cook BBQ for a party. Get back to me when you figure out how to do any of that in a Prius.

Own the car with good mileage.

Rent the truck from Enterprise on the weekends when you need the hauler. They are super-cheap - $70/day all in or less. I know lots of urban dwellers who do this.

That makes no sense, except for maybe a know-it-all Farker. I still need 2 vehicles to get me and the wife to our jobs. Your idea calls for me to make 2 monthly vehicle payments PLUS rental fees at least 2 or 3 times a month when I need to rent a truck to haul stuff. Also, who knows what kind of piece of crap rental truck I will get when I'm done waiting 30 minutes or more in line at the rental place, plus the time I'll spend disinfecting it since I'm not sure if the 3 people who rented it before me actually washed their hands after they took that shiat before returning the truck. I also don't really know the maintenance record of the vehicle I'm renting, so I don't know if I can really trust it to haul my family, the boat and the camper on a 1200 mile trip to the U.P. and back without some major problem. And it surely doesn't have a winch built on to pull me out if I get stuck on the 2-track on the way to my secret fishing lake.

You plan only makes sense for Prius owners hell bent on saving the world.


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