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(NYPost)   The difficulties of casting police lineups: 400-pound robber edition   (nypost.com) divider line 19
    More: Followup, police lineup, robbery, appeals court, getaway cars, casting  
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2011-08-26 08:14:10 AM  
FFS
 
2011-08-26 08:14:30 AM  
I was gonna say that there shouldn't be any problem finding 400-pounders for the lineup here in Oklahoma, but then I saw he was black, so nevermind.
 
2011-08-26 08:14:53 AM  
So if you look distinctive enough, they essentially can't use a lineup to finger you for a crime? That seems a little odd.
 
2011-08-26 08:15:43 AM  
Where exactly does it say that everyone in the lineup has to look the same or be the same build?
 
2011-08-26 08:15:45 AM  

Tarmangani: I was gonna say that there shouldn't be any problem finding 400-pounders for the lineup here in Oklahoma, but then I saw he was black, so nevermind.


Colts' preseason game.
 
2011-08-26 08:19:32 AM  
He sounds fat.
 
2011-08-26 08:20:52 AM  
I thought you said he was a getaway driver. What the fark can he get away from, eh?

www.thelin.net
 
2011-08-26 08:37:46 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: So if you look distinctive enough, they essentially can't use a lineup to finger you for a crime? That seems a little odd.


The whole police lineup thing has issues. It leads to a lot of false positives. People feel pressured to say that one of the guys on the lineup is it, even if none of them were involved in the crime. The best way is to introduce people sequentially, along with a lot of people who fit the description but you know were not involved in the crime like undercover cops or professional actors, but that doesn't make for a good movie scene. Seriously. A lot of complaints against abolishing the lineup boil down to "but it works in Hollywood and looks cool."
 
2011-08-26 08:38:26 AM  
Awesome.

Step 1 - Get distinctive facial tattoos
Step 2 - Crime
Step 3 - Complain that the police line up didn't have guys with the same facial tattoo
Step 4 - ?????
Step 5 - Profit
 
2011-08-26 09:16:50 AM  
Come to WI, we have tons of them.
 
2011-08-26 09:18:41 AM  
You silly fat bastard.
 
2011-08-26 09:45:57 AM  

LegacyDL: Where exactly does it say that everyone in the lineup has to look the same or be the same build?


A rough description of the suspect is "white male, ~6 feet tall, 180 to 200 pounds, brown hair, red jacket and jeans". They round up any random St. Louis Cardinals fan and stick him in a lineup with a pair of ~7 foot tall NBA rejects of African descent, and a pair of ~5 foot tall Asiatics. Why, surprise, surprise, surprise, it looks like all the witnesses picked our Cards fan out of the lineup. With that many people saying he did it, he MUST be the one.

TL:DR; common bloody sense says it. Legal precedent that requires this includes, but is not limited to: the decision of Manson v. Brathwaite, 432 U.S. 98 (1977)

zaier: Awesome.

Step 1 - Get distinctive facial tattoos
Step 2 - Crime
Step 3 - Complain that the police line up didn't have guys with the same facial tattoo
Step 4 - ?????
Step 5 - Profit


Get distinctive facial tattoo(s), loose all chance of being regarded as a professional (Samoans possibly exempt), turn to a life of crime to make ends meet, watch as the police take pictures of your distinctive tattoo and then apply less-than-permanent versions of it to people that are otherwise comparable to your physical form. ???. They laugh in your face.
 
2011-08-26 09:50:11 AM  
It's unclear whether Kenley will be freed pending the retrial, or if he's considered too big a flight risk.

Brilliant.
 
2011-08-26 10:29:49 AM  
FTFA:It's unclear whether Kenley will be freed pending the retrial, or if he's considered too big a flight risk.


His lawyer should claim that he's too fat to fly.
 
2011-08-26 10:31:33 AM  

Rohasman:
zaier: Awesome.

Step 1 - Get distinctive facial tattoos
Step 2 - Crime
Step 3 - Complain that the police line up didn't have guys with the same facial tattoo
Step 4 - ?????
Step 5 - Profit

Get distinctive facial tattoo(s), loose all chance of being regarded as a professional (Samoans possibly exempt), turn to a life of crime to make ends meet, watch as the police take pictures of your distinctive tattoo and then apply less-than-permanent versions of it to people that are otherwise comparable to your physical form. ???. They laugh in your face.


If they had pictures of you committing the crime they wouldn't need a lineup. Also, if there was only one person with facial tats in the actual lineup that'd mean they were assuming guilt to begin with and didn't bother looking for other possible suspects. Appeals would be all over that shiat.
 
2011-08-26 10:44:51 AM  
"Instead, this situation would call for the use of some kind of covering to conceal the weight difference."
Fat suits?
 
2011-08-26 12:13:20 PM  

Dictatorial_Flair: So if you look distinctive enough, they essentially can't use a lineup to finger you for a crime? That seems a little odd.


www.ramrodsoftball.com
 
2011-08-26 01:23:35 PM  
beyondmediaonline.com

Hand me the keys, you cocksucker.

In English, please?

Excuse me?

In English.

Hand me the farking keys, you cocksucker, what the fark?
 
2011-08-26 04:44:57 PM  
Police lineups suck. They have caused more wrongful convictions than can be counted. There are far better ways of verifying eyewitness testimony.
 
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