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2011-08-24 12:01:19 AM
sseye:

It's pretty obvious that they disposed of the remains, then when asked, stalled for months, then someone incredibly farking stupid panicked and offered the tissue samples hoping she'd go away.

when do you treat a stillbirth as a baby? if the parents weren't clear on that front and came back 2 weeks later asking for babby, it's not at all clear the hospital did anything wrong except the clumsy cover-up. but honestly if you don't live in farking uganda you expect that the hospital would ask you right away about the handling of the remains and do some paperwork to record your wishes.


She filled out forms to have the body returned to her for burial. The hospital lost the forms.
 
2011-08-24 12:02:48 AM
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2011-08-24 12:03:22 AM
"Here is your baby ma'am. We're sorry for your loss and for this slip up"

"AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!"

"What? What's the matter? Oh, I see. That's actually my lunch. We are all just sushi nuts here. Hold on, I'll trade you"

"AAAAAAAAAHHH!!! AAAHHHHH!!!!"

"Now what's wrong?"

"-sniff- This carton is empty."

"FUUUUUUUUUUU..."
 
2011-08-24 12:09:16 AM
A funeral? For a fetus? A clump of cells?

She's got damages all right...
 
2011-08-24 12:09:17 AM
Somebody at that hospital though that was a good idea...
 
2011-08-24 12:10:40 AM
s'not often a headline actually makes me cringe a little
 
2011-08-24 12:11:28 AM

quansem: /walk thru a kids hospital if you ever want to gain perspective on how good you have it in life.


been there, done that, and this.

even with some bad stuff going on w my own kids, the kids hospital tour was an eye opener.
 
2011-08-24 12:12:16 AM

Omnis_evil_twin: sseye:

It's pretty obvious that they disposed of the remains, then when asked, stalled for months, then someone incredibly farking stupid panicked and offered the tissue samples hoping she'd go away.

when do you treat a stillbirth as a baby? if the parents weren't clear on that front and came back 2 weeks later asking for babby, it's not at all clear the hospital did anything wrong except the clumsy cover-up. but honestly if you don't live in farking uganda you expect that the hospital would ask you right away about the handling of the remains and do some paperwork to record your wishes.

She filled out forms to have the body returned to her for burial. The hospital lost the forms.


In that case, apologies don't suffice. The only way you make an institution of that size pay attention is to make them pay.
 
2011-08-24 12:13:33 AM

skinink: It's amazing that even though the court found the hospital guilty and the hospital itself apologized for the way the whole situation was handled plus will revise the way it handles this type of situation, Farkers are still arguing over how exactly did the lady expect to get the remains back. The hospital isn't the victim here or wasn't the one mistreated.


i.imgur.com
Had to
 
2011-08-24 12:14:55 AM
Pretty appalling job on the part of the hospital.

not-so CSB: We had grandson who was stillborn a few years ago and I was totally blown away by the caring and senstive manner in which the hospital handled the whole thing, seriously. Sadly, they've obviously had to do this many times before, but at least they've developed an appropriate set of procedures to deal with it.
 
2011-08-24 12:15:40 AM
Sometimes a baby delivered is this way is what is termed "masacated", because to deliver the live twin, the dead one is kept in utero for days, weeks, even months until the delivery. There might not have been much left to save, and depending on when the fetal demise occured there might have not even been much to begin with( At 5 months they're only about half a pound). Often, the remains are simply disposed of as medical waste.

If you are curious to what this could look like, google intrauterine fetal demise. Enjoy your free lifetime soul scarring.
 
2011-08-24 12:16:16 AM

sseye: Omnis_evil_twin: sseye:

It's pretty obvious that they disposed of the remains, then when asked, stalled for months, then someone incredibly farking stupid panicked and offered the tissue samples hoping she'd go away.

when do you treat a stillbirth as a baby? if the parents weren't clear on that front and came back 2 weeks later asking for babby, it's not at all clear the hospital did anything wrong except the clumsy cover-up. but honestly if you don't live in farking uganda you expect that the hospital would ask you right away about the handling of the remains and do some paperwork to record your wishes.

She filled out forms to have the body returned to her for burial. The hospital lost the forms.

In that case, apologies don't suffice. The only way you make an institution of that size pay attention is to make them pay.


Right, because of 1 incompetent boob, the entire institution has to pay.
Gee, I wonder where they will get the money to pay.
 
2011-08-24 12:18:13 AM

Kosta: Yeah I'm not sure how one would return the embedded tissue samples eight months out without being offensive to non medical folk. She asked for what remains were in the possession of the hospital and she got them. It's not like they freeze/pickle whole stillbirths in case the owner ever wants them back.

I don't see a way this could have ended without the lady sueing the hospital for making her unhappy.


"But the hospital lost forms in which she said she wanted the remains."

She stated she wanted the remains so she could have a funeral. The hospital lost the forms that stated she wanted the remains. So, what happens, they hold the body for so long, then cremate it, then it's buried in a mass grave with a number that references the names of all that are buried there. What they gave her weren't remains, they were the specimens they took for autopsy and that's all they had left to give her.


devildog123: She's lucky she got anything at all. I mean, all that happened was she had a lump of dead tissue removed. She discovered a month before she delivered her son that some extra tissue would be coming out with him. I mean, let's face it, when she discovered that the fetus would be stillborn, it was at a time when, if it had been a viable fetus she could have had them go in, chop it up, vacuum it out, and toss it in a dumpster. Why did she care so much about the tissue samples?


Your due date is 40 weeks after your last menstrual cycle. That is considered a normal pregnancy. They consider anything after 36 weeks to be full term. 24-36 weeks is considered premature birth. Unless there is a medical issue even 34 weekers are sent home after 48 hours in the NICU to make sure they are breathing correctly and not going to jaundice. She found out via ultra sound one month before her due date that one of the twins died. So, that would be 36 weeks which is still considered full term. It wasn't a bunch of tissue to be sucked out, it was a full term baby that died in the womb. She was probably issued a certificate of still birth right along with her certificate of live birth and she was issued a death certificate after the autopsy that probably listed cause unknown. The hospital took a chance for her to get some closure by having a funeral when they lost paperwork that said the body was to be released.

I had a 29 weeker that was 1lb 13ozs, 30 1/2 weeker that was 3 lbs 5ozs, and a still birth at almost 35 weeks. The hospital thought me incompetent to make decisions. I said I didn't want pictures taken and they dressed him up and took pictures while I was still knocked out. I woke up to a 'memory box' of pictures of my dead child and the outfit they dressed him up in. They were supposed to send everything to my mother-in-laws house, my husband stressed this point many times and the grief counselor made notes in my file, so I didn't break further. I opened my door a little over a week later and had to sign for something from the mailman, it was pictures. I opened them and they weren't even pictures of my child they were someone elses pictures. I sank to the floor and sobbed until I fell asleep. Two weeks after that I get another knock and it's the correct pictures and my memory plaque with his name and date of birth. Like you need a frickin plaque to remember. And just went you think you have pulled yourself from the brink, the phone rings and it's the grief counselor wanting to talk and rehash everything. I finally changed my number. So, to recap, they sent things to my home that weren't supposed to be sent there, they sent the wrong pictures, ignored my wishes concerning pictures in the first place, played dress up with my dead child, let me wake up from anesthesia with a memory box on my lap that contained the Polaroids and outfit and blanket. Frankly, after the first screw up they are lucky I didn't beat them all to death and blame it on the stress they caused and fluctuating hormones.
 
2011-08-24 12:19:34 AM

sseye: quansem: /walk thru a kids hospital if you ever want to gain perspective on how good you have it in life.

been there, done that, and this.

even with some bad stuff going on w my own kids, the kids hospital tour was an eye opener.


Let me sharpen that a little. After 8 months hanging around a level 3 NICU there was still were sights in the pedo ward that were so sad and awful they are still etched in my mind.
 
2011-08-24 12:20:54 AM
Why do people feel the need to get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for "emotional" damage. If she were truly upset, she wouldn't even think about money.

Farked up justice systems that equate $$$$$$$ with emotional damage.

BLAME THE LAWYERS.
 
2011-08-24 12:22:30 AM
Someone should be beaten for this. No fuss with courts or anything, this is the appropriate time for an angry mob to beat someone into the ICU.
 
2011-08-24 12:23:18 AM
I have to feel for the lady, though. Like me, she has the living twin to remind her that she lost one, just a month before birth. My nine year old is a living twin of one who died very similar to this.

/Yes, we did have names picked out for both.
//Who the hell waits to come up with a name for a baby after its born?
///Megan's ashes are put away.
//// I
 
2011-08-24 12:25:25 AM

DominaNY: Why do people feel the need to get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for "emotional" damage. If she were truly upset, she wouldn't even think about money.

Farked up justice systems that equate $$$$$$$ with emotional damage.

BLAME THE LAWYERS.


They sent her the only remains of her stillborn child in a farking envelope.

It's not that SHE deserves the money - money doesn't enter into her pain - it's that the people responsible deserve to be punished civilly.
 
2011-08-24 12:26:04 AM

scooter1369: I have to feel for the lady, though. Like me, she has the living twin to remind her that she lost one, just a month before birth. My nine year old is a living twin of one who died very similar to this.

/Yes, we did have names picked out for both.
//Who the hell waits to come up with a name for a baby after its born?
///Megan's ashes are put away.
//// I


Horrible question, I know, but I'll ask anyways...

How did you decide which name died?
 
2011-08-24 12:26:11 AM
Was she upset because that was all they had, or because it was in an envelope? If the latter, how exactly was she expecting it, pickled in a jar? The world's tiniest coffin? Ashtray?
 
2011-08-24 12:26:38 AM

LavenderWolf: They sent her the only remains of her stillborn child in a farking envelope.


.....and?

I'm still not seeing the outrage here.
 
2011-08-24 12:27:21 AM
That's a fairly misleading headline, and a lot of comments are clearly from people who didn't RTFA.

They didn't mail her a dead baby in an envelope. The fetus was dead a month before birth but had to stay in there because its twin was very much alive.

Then the hospital farked up after the delivery and failed to preserve the stillborn fetus, though the mother had requested they do so.

So when she demanded remains, all they had was a small amount of tissue remaining from tests done in an autopsy, and THAT is what she was given in an envelope.

/Yes, still a terrible fark-up, but it isn't like they were being intentionally horrible to her.
 
2011-08-24 12:28:50 AM
from a purely financial perspective; if she had got the remains in a timely manner, what was the plan - to have a babby funeral? how much does that cost? would the damages she's seeking now be equal to the cost of said funeral? if so, she should drop it and be happy to break even.
 
2011-08-24 12:29:52 AM
If this was a full-term stillbirth (as opposed to a miscarriage), then where the fark is the rest of the cadaver? If really was a full-term stillbirth there should be a whole baby, not just little bits and pieces. I'd be pretty furious if I asked for the corpse of my stillborn infant and got wax bits an envelope...
 
2011-08-24 12:34:33 AM

Begoggle: sseye: Omnis_evil_twin: sseye:

It's pretty obvious that they disposed of the remains, then when asked, stalled for months, then someone incredibly farking stupid panicked and offered the tissue samples hoping she'd go away.

when do you treat a stillbirth as a baby? if the parents weren't clear on that front and came back 2 weeks later asking for babby, it's not at all clear the hospital did anything wrong except the clumsy cover-up. but honestly if you don't live in farking uganda you expect that the hospital would ask you right away about the handling of the remains and do some paperwork to record your wishes.

She filled out forms to have the body returned to her for burial. The hospital lost the forms.

In that case, apologies don't suffice. The only way you make an institution of that size pay attention is to make them pay.

Right, because of 1 incompetent boob, the entire institution has to pay.
Gee, I wonder where they will get the money to pay.


Sit down grasshopper and listen.

A farkup of that nature does not happen from one person. It requires one person to make the stupid delivery. That person does not have the authority to act so stupidly on their own. The person who hands it over is a clerk, an office lady, a counter c*nt. They had to have authorization from someone, and even more, explicit instructions.

Where did those instructions and authorization come from? A low-level manager. But this manager just follows procedures under normal circumstances. This manager does not work for the tissue bank, or whatever the equivalent function is called there. This manager has to reach out to another part of the hospital and say "we threw this woman's baby away, we need something to give her, can we get the samples?" now in any hospital that isn't totally dysfunctional the person in the tissue sample dept. would say "you want me to just give it to you? where's the doctor i'm supposed to send it to?" now the first manager says, "it's important, let me talk to your manager" and she says "ok, whatever". then the second manager would say "are you farking kidding me?" and the first manager would say "we lost the remains, this is all we have". then the second manager says "I can't do that, let's ask a higher power". at this point, upper management and lawyers *should* be involved, but somehow, someone drops the ball - maybe managers 1 and 2 know they are just useless gits - even though this clearly involves the loss of remains - and manager 2 eventually says "ok, here you go".

it's very hard to imagine how something like this could happen without many people, 2 departments, and some relatively senior management being involved. but if you want to keep sucking the cocks of empty suits, i guess that's your prerogative.

here's the thing. we all pay, regardless. we can choose to make the managers pay attention, or not. clearly they are not TCB. so we can wake them up one way.

/i shoulda been a lawyer
 
2011-08-24 12:39:09 AM

misfitdreams: I had a 29 weeker that was 1lb 13ozs, 30 1/2 weeker that was 3 lbs 5ozs, and a still birth at almost 35 weeks. The hospital thought me incompetent to make decisions. I said I didn't want pictures taken and they dressed him up and took pictures while I was still knocked out. I woke up to a 'memory box' of pictures of my dead child and the outfit they dressed him up in.


Jesus Christ, what? Did this happen in 1880 or something? I had no idea they were still doing post-mortem photography in any kind of official capacity.

I can't imagine a worse job than whoever has to clean, dress up, and take cute photographs of a dead infant.
 
2011-08-24 12:43:10 AM
The streets of pleasure took you to top
But every light was red and every sign said stop
I felt so confined, just like glued to this spot

Cause we were sleeping in the noon day sun
We escaped the test and the marathon run
And no one heard and these mournful cries of Alfie,
We put a stop to that
Whoa, poor Alfie, I wish you'd please come back.

So no ones hurt - we might have made it through
But now theres nothing left except the memories of you...

With overflowing powerful woes
Cause there's real and fright
To the top of the stairs to find poor Alfie
And blood stained letters dont count for change,
And dont look for blame
Cause its a fair exchange
For the last adventure I have left!

Cause we were sleeping in the noon day sun
We escaped the test and the marathon run
And no one heard and these mournful cries of Alfie
We put a stop to that
Oh, but Alfie, I wish you'd please come back

Now its going to be hard for me to make it through
When all thats left is the memories of
Nothing left except the memories of war and pain,
Please, pity poor Alfie

Poor Alfie, he put a stop to that
Poor Alfie I wish you'd please come back
Poor Alfie put a stop to that
Oh, but Alfie, I wish you'd please come back
Poor Alfie!
 
2011-08-24 12:43:27 AM

LavenderWolf: scooter1369: I have to feel for the lady, though. Like me, she has the living twin to remind her that she lost one, just a month before birth. My nine year old is a living twin of one who died very similar to this.

/Yes, we did have names picked out for both.
//Who the hell waits to come up with a name for a baby after its born?
///Megan's ashes are put away.
//// I

Horrible question, I know, but I'll ask anyways...

How did you decide which name died?


They weren't identical and they were growing at different rates. When carrying twins, they are designated "Baby A" and "Baby B" in the womb. Our Baby A (Megan) turned out to have Trisomy-18, a genetic condition, similar to Down's Syndrome (Trisomy-21). The lower the chromosome pair that is effected. the more severe the condition. It causes a reduced growth rate, and telltale signs in the skeletal development. Mishapen hands, spine and skull.

Megan was born alive, but didn't last but a few minutes out of the womb. The only thing keeping her alive was the umbilical cord, as her heart had absolutely no rythm to it and had 4 seperate defects of its own.

So in short, we knew which one was which early on. We didn't know one was in trouble until about 5th or 6th month. By then, we had bought items for their room, people had sent gifts with the names on them. We had just come to terms that we would be going from 3 mouths to feed to 5 when we got the news that something might be wrong. Our three year didn't understand why only one baby was coming home after knowing there would be two new babies.

Its a devastating process to go through and I wouldn't wish it on anybody. The stress of everything put my marriage on the rocks for 5 years, as we struggled to pay the bills from so many tests and 3d and 4d ultrasounds. The situation is so rare, that we had student doctors filing into the exam rooms to see the ultrasounds. We agreed to it of course, because my wife is a nurse and she knows the necessity of teaching these odd occurances.

Anyway, end of NotCSB.
 
2011-08-24 12:43:34 AM

TemporarySanity: from a purely financial perspective; if she had got the remains in a timely manner, what was the plan - to have a babby funeral? how much does that cost? would the damages she's seeking now be equal to the cost of said funeral? if so, she should drop it and be happy to break even.


oh, so since they spared her the cost of a funeral she should really pay them! of course. it's so obvious when you put it that way.
 
2011-08-24 12:53:55 AM

misfitdreams: I had a 29 weeker that was 1lb 13ozs, 30 1/2 weeker that was 3 lbs 5ozs, and a still birth at almost 35 weeks. The hospital thought me incompetent to make decisions. I said I didn't want pictures taken and they dressed him up and took pictures while I was still knocked out. I woke up to a 'memory box' of pictures of my dead child and the outfit they dressed him up in. They were supposed to send everything to my mother-in-laws house, my husband stressed this point many times and the grief counselor made notes in my file, so I didn't break further. I opened my door a little over a week later and had to sign for something from the mailman, it was pictures. I opened them and they weren't even pictures of my child they were someone elses pictures. I sank to the floor and sobbed until I fell asleep. Two weeks after that I get another knock and it's the correct pictures and my memory plaque with his name and date of birth. Like you need a frickin plaque to remember. And just went you think you have pulled yourself from the brink, the phone rings and it's the grief counselor wanting to talk and rehash everything. I finally changed my number. So, to recap, they sent things to my home that weren't supposed to be sent there, they sent the wrong pictures, ignored my wishes concerning pictures in the first place, played dress up with my dead child, let me wake up from anesthesia with a memory box on my lap that contained the Polaroids and outfit and blanket. Frankly, after the first screw up they are lucky I didn't beat them all to death and blame it on the stress they caused and fluctuating hormones.


If you had any names and addresses... Or even just needed an alibi... I'm not saying 100% I could help, but I'm definitely sympathetic.
 
2011-08-24 12:58:01 AM

Erofeev: misfitdreams: I had a 29 weeker that was 1lb 13ozs, 30 1/2 weeker that was 3 lbs 5ozs, and a still birth at almost 35 weeks. The hospital thought me incompetent to make decisions. I said I didn't want pictures taken and they dressed him up and took pictures while I was still knocked out. I woke up to a 'memory box' of pictures of my dead child and the outfit they dressed him up in.

Jesus Christ, what? Did this happen in 1880 or something? I had no idea they were still doing post-mortem photography in any kind of official capacity.

I can't imagine a worse job than whoever has to clean, dress up, and take cute photographs of a dead infant.


I don't know about all hospitals but mine does. They say it's healthy. It gives you a momento. I didn't want it, I signed a form stating I didn't want it. The grief counselor overroad my decision because she stated that I was mentally distressed over the loss and wasn't making rational decisions. They also refused to preform a tubal ligation while I was already asleep for a c-section because I wasn't being rational and still had time to have more children. Seriously, that is what I was told, you have time for more children. I tried to calmly explain that my body is apparently hostile to pregnancy and used my first two premature births as examples, along with the now dead child in my womb. I got a hand pat and told it'd be all right and I had plenty of time for more. I told the nurse to bring me some damn Valium and that I didn't want to see her again until it was either time for more or it was time for my surgery.
 
2011-08-24 01:08:33 AM

misfitdreams: Erofeev: misfitdreams: I had a 29 weeker that was 1lb 13ozs, 30 1/2 weeker that was 3 lbs 5ozs, and a still birth at almost 35 weeks. The hospital thought me incompetent to make decisions. I said I didn't want pictures taken and they dressed him up and took pictures while I was still knocked out. I woke up to a 'memory box' of pictures of my dead child and the outfit they dressed him up in.

Jesus Christ, what? Did this happen in 1880 or something? I had no idea they were still doing post-mortem photography in any kind of official capacity.

I can't imagine a worse job than whoever has to clean, dress up, and take cute photographs of a dead infant.

I don't know about all hospitals but mine does. They say it's healthy. It gives you a momento. I didn't want it, I signed a form stating I didn't want it. The grief counselor overroad my decision because she stated that I was mentally distressed over the loss and wasn't making rational decisions. They also refused to preform a tubal ligation while I was already asleep for a c-section because I wasn't being rational and still had time to have more children. Seriously, that is what I was told, you have time for more children. I tried to calmly explain that my body is apparently hostile to pregnancy and used my first two premature births as examples, along with the now dead child in my womb. I got a hand pat and told it'd be all right and I had plenty of time for more. I told the nurse to bring me some damn Valium and that I didn't want to see her again until it was either time for more or it was time for my surgery.


That... just... Even *I* feel all stabby just from reading that (and I have no intention of ever getting pregnant.)
 
2011-08-24 01:12:27 AM

misfitdreams: Erofeev: I can't imagine a worse job than whoever has to clean, dress up, and take cute photographs of a dead infant.


I can. Easily. And I've had a nurse take disposable camera pics of me holding my/our dead infant.

I don't know about all hospitals but mine does. They say it's healthy. It gives you a momento. I didn't want it, I signed a form stating I didn't want it. The grief counselor overroad my decision because she stated that I was mentally distressed over the loss and wasn't making rational decisions.

It's always disturbing in these situations that total strangers have so much influence over major events in your life. I'm sorry. I wish I knew a bettter way.

They also refused to preform a tubal ligation while I was already asleep for a c-section because I wasn't being rational and still had time to have more children. Seriously, that is what I was told, you have time for more children. I tried to calmly explain that my body is apparently hostile to pregnancy and used my first two premature births as examples, along with the now dead child in my womb. I got a hand pat and told it'd be all right and I had plenty of time for more. I told the nurse to bring me some damn Valium and that I didn't want to see her again until it was either time for more or it was time for my surgery.

I do understand. We had all kinds of decisions (for a while) made without our knowledge because they assumed our multiples were the result of fertility treatments - and that purely because of who the original ob/gyn was. He did a lot of fertility stuff. Apparently it was too arcane for neonatal nurses to know that identical multiples don't happen because of fertility drugs.

That being said, the NICU nurses did push us to have pics taken when our 3rd trip died, and I'm glad they did. It does sound like in your case people were following procedure without any thought to the patient. There is no profession that isn't immune from ass-covering, sadly.

EIP if you want to talk.
 
2011-08-24 01:14:18 AM

Erofeev: misfitdreams: I had a 29 weeker that was 1lb 13ozs, 30 1/2 weeker that was 3 lbs 5ozs, and a still birth at almost 35 weeks. The hospital thought me incompetent to make decisions. I said I didn't want pictures taken and they dressed him up and took pictures while I was still knocked out. I woke up to a 'memory box' of pictures of my dead child and the outfit they dressed him up in.

Jesus Christ, what? Did this happen in 1880 or something? I had no idea they were still doing post-mortem photography in any kind of official capacity.

I can't imagine a worse job than whoever has to clean, dress up, and take cute photographs of a dead infant.


Actually, for some women, it's actually something that they request and that's considered healthy for them to do. There are quite a few women out there who, for example, give birth to a stillborn and want an opportunity to at least have a few moments with what could have been. A lot of the people who decide to join such a field are ones who have been through similar situations and got inspired from there.

As for the article, the comments from both here and the actual article depressed me. WhyTF do you have people bothering to comment on something that they apparently didn't even properly read?
 
2011-08-24 01:20:29 AM

LavenderWolf: It's not that SHE deserves the money - money doesn't enter into her pain - it's that the people responsible deserve to be punished civilly.


Right how about we give the money to charity in these cases instead and see how hard people push just to deal out deserved civil punishment and not fill their bank accounts in the process.
 
2011-08-24 01:23:05 AM

DominaNY: Why do people feel the need to get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for "emotional" damage. If she were truly upset, she wouldn't even think about money.

Farked up justice systems that equate $$$$$$$ with emotional damage.

BLAME THE LAWYERS.



A corporation can't feel the sting of revenge as a human can feel the sting of an emotional injury. It can only be injured monetarily. Basic stuff dood....
 
2011-08-24 01:26:15 AM

anahole: WhyTF do you have people bothering to comment on something that they apparently didn't even properly read?


Because the whole point of the site is amusing headlines, because articles are often poorly written, slanted or lacking anyway, because they don't care, because it's fark, all of the above...
 
2011-08-24 01:27:44 AM

anahole: As for the article, the comments from both here and the actual article depressed me. WhyTF do you have people bothering to comment on something that they apparently didn't even properly read?


You're new here, obviously. Not reading the article is often (and often justifiably) a point of pride.

This one bears very personally and painfully on my own life and even I didn't bother to read the article properly. (proof upthread)

Now fetch me my poking stick.

/and yes generally speaking, it's a good idea to have a pic taken with your deceased child even if you don't own a copy of Wisconsin Death Trip - as long as you do or might consider it your child
//so glad i did
///YMMV
 
2011-08-24 01:29:19 AM
Is there a gif of shinji from NGE:EOE when he screams?
 
2011-08-24 01:35:59 AM

scooter1369:
//Who the hell waits to come up with a name for a baby after it's born?


I did. Went home with a baby with no name. The hospital staff was unhappy and filled out the paperwork as "Boy". We came up with a name about a week later and mailed in some papers. Now I wish we'd just left it.
 
2011-08-24 01:39:25 AM

Relatively Obscure: You can't feed a family on tissue samples. Thank God her kid wasn't alive to suffer through this.


Hilarious.
 
2011-08-24 01:41:59 AM

my name my name is vanessa del rio: there were tissue samples in a sealed container. several of them.


The samples in question:
img231.imageshack.us
 
2011-08-24 01:42:33 AM
I'm guessing any headline with the word "male," has a shot at headline of the year.
There was another headline earlier this month which talked about Sanford Wallace and how he faces 40 years of unsolicited male.
 
2011-08-24 01:43:47 AM
For those of you questioning a burial (or mocking it), my wife had a miscarriage about 10 months ago and the hospital we go to has a memorial service for all of the miscarriages and stillborns twice per year. All of the remains are buried. We attended the service along with several other families. Along with the box with all of the miscarriages there was a small coffin for a stillbirth. I still get choked up when I remember it.
 
2011-08-24 01:44:40 AM

quansem: Let's just say that many of the photos would make you lose your lunch, all dressed up in bonnets and bows, surrounded by teddybears. Not my way if it were my situation.


Hormones are amazing. One thing about stillborn children (and I had a late term loss a few years ago, although yes I think the bonnets etc. and especially on-line memorial pictures are supercreepy) is it is a different experience when you are the hormone-flooded mother. At the time it can totally make sense and for some people that feeling sticks around. Mine looked basically normal (severe heart defect) but I had a friend who had a stillborn baby with severe clef lip/palette issues. She is a pretty steady, unsentimental person (not nuts, but unflappable) she says she distinctly remembers feeling the little girl was beautiful and felt the gush of warm fuzzy mom hormones (she had older children). Objectively she knew that she was really deformed, but the emotions were still there. The feeling lasted for a few days. She said it was a really odd experience looking back at it.

Personally my midwife handed me pictures of some sort and a card (with footprints) in a sealed envelope and said if I ever want to look at them I can. Not dress up pictures because they don't do that thing. At least that is what I was told, I have never felt so moved and although I know it is somewhere and will probably turn up at some point I am not really concerned about it and honestly if it was lost I don't think I would miss it. I didn't tell my husband because he was freaked out about the whole thing and the existence of pictures would have been a big push towards the edge. The whole thing sucked and I put it behind me long ago, although my daughter sometimes mentions it at odd times.
 
2011-08-24 01:46:43 AM

ahasp: For those of you questioning a burial (or mocking it), my wife had a miscarriage about 10 months ago and the hospital we go to has a memorial service for all of the miscarriages and stillborns twice per year. All of the remains are buried. We attended the service along with several other families. Along with the box with all of the miscarriages there was a small coffin for a stillbirth. I still get choked up when I remember it.


All the miscarriages go in one box?
 
2011-08-24 01:46:48 AM

tinfinger: Its demise contents Shocked mother. Dead baby mail weds the transformation outside a ten upstairs. Dead baby mail drowns Shocked mother. Past a daily lark shies away Shocked mother. When can the supporter fast into the increasing suite?


yes I said yes I will Yes.
 
2011-08-24 01:52:18 AM

DogsInBathtub: ahasp: For those of you questioning a burial (or mocking it), my wife had a miscarriage about 10 months ago and the hospital we go to has a memorial service for all of the miscarriages and stillborns twice per year. All of the remains are buried. We attended the service along with several other families. Along with the box with all of the miscarriages there was a small coffin for a stillbirth. I still get choked up when I remember it.

All the miscarriages go in one box?


If the reply to this question involves any portion of a Monty Python skit, I'm quitting Fark forever.
 
2011-08-24 01:55:52 AM
So, England, how's that whole socialized medical care working out for you?

Carry on. Your hospitals are starting to show up on FARK much more frequently.
 
2011-08-24 01:56:06 AM
+2 subby. shared that with the house, got no laffs but my own. eww, stil have chuckles
 
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