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2011-08-22 06:30:22 PM
Let the skirt-wearin' muckmouths say whatever they want to the mu-mu wearin' thugs.
 
2011-08-22 06:42:13 PM
Ridding the world of the likes of Gadhafi is a good thing, but this indecisive President had little to do with this triumph.
 
2011-08-22 06:43:56 PM
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2011-08-22 07:01:51 PM
His three months are up.
 
2011-08-22 07:18:25 PM
Seems to me if he's been freed, then that's that. Why bother him? He'll either die soon or live a little longer, but I doubt he's much threat to anyone at the moment.
 
2011-08-22 07:22:28 PM

elchip: Ridding the world of the likes of Gadhafi is a good thing, but this indecisive President had little to do with this triumph.


Not sure if serious?
 
2011-08-22 07:23:29 PM

nekom: Seems to me if he's been freed, then that's that. Why bother him? He'll either die soon or live a little longer, but I doubt he's much threat to anyone at the moment.


He killed 189 Americans. He should be in prison until he drops dead.

It's unfortunate that two years later, Scotland is starting to think they may have screwed up, considering it was obvious to the rest of the world when they made their decision.
 
2011-08-22 07:32:08 PM

DeltaXi65: He killed 189 Americans. He should be in prison until he drops dead.

It's unfortunate that two years later, Scotland is starting to think they may have screwed up, considering it was obvious to the rest of the world when they made their decision.


I agree, and they should have never released him in the first place. But they did, so shouldn't that be that?
 
2011-08-22 07:51:06 PM
Too bad Scotland didn't have the haggis to leave this guy locked up.
 
2011-08-22 08:25:43 PM
Just farm it out to Mossad or CIA, the guy will be dead in a week under what appear to be totally accidental circumstances.
 
2011-08-22 08:36:23 PM
We should kill the bomber OVERTLY.

He was released on humanitarian grounds with three months to live. On one hand, that seems reasonable.

On the other *ding* time's up. The the Scots should send over a highland soldier with a claymore and a kilt in the offical military tartan and the queen mother herself should give him a writ of safe conduct so he could go down to Libya and humanitarily end the life of the terrorist with one stroke of the sword to the neck.

And if they interfere with this solider in anyway, the UK should invade Libya and try to the the old British Empire going.
 
2011-08-22 08:47:24 PM

doglover: We should kill the bomber OVERTLY.

He was released on humanitarian grounds with three months to live. On one hand, that seems reasonable.

On the other *ding* time's up. The the Scots should send over a highland soldier with a claymore and a kilt in the offical military tartan and the queen mother herself should give him a writ of safe conduct so he could go down to Libya and humanitarily end the life of the terrorist with one stroke of the sword to the neck.

And if they interfere with this solider in anyway, the UK should invade Libya and try to the the old British Empire going.


Errr. The Queen Mother is deader than this monster should be...but you knew that.
 
2011-08-22 09:01:22 PM
Oh FFS. Just send in the SAS and cap the SOB in the head.

/OMG
//Other random capital letters
 
2011-08-22 09:12:12 PM

nekom: DeltaXi65: He killed 189 Americans. He should be in prison until he drops dead.

It's unfortunate that two years later, Scotland is starting to think they may have screwed up, considering it was obvious to the rest of the world when they made their decision.

I agree, and they should have never released him in the first place. But they did, so shouldn't that be that?


Only if he died in 3 months like he was supposed to. Since he's still alive at this point, he should be returned to custody in Scotland. The only reason he was released was because his death was "imminent." It apparently isn't, so go back to jail.

I can't imagine what the families of his victims think about him enjoying two years of freedom because Scotland was wrong.
 
2011-08-22 09:14:29 PM

Transkaren: elchip: Ridding the world of the likes of Gadhafi is a good thing, but this indecisive President had little to do with this triumph.

Not sure if serious?


He's trying to get some people to allege that he forgot change to his supposed other login. He's having fun with that I think
 
2011-08-22 09:17:53 PM

martissimo: Transkaren: elchip: Ridding the world of the likes of Gadhafi is a good thing, but this indecisive President had little to do with this triumph.

Not sure if serious?

He's trying to get some people to allege that he forgot change to his supposed other login. He's having fun with that I think


This time I was just quoting Rick Santorum.
 
2011-08-22 09:18:14 PM

DeltaXi65: Only if he died in 3 months like he was supposed to. Since he's still alive at this point, he should be returned to custody in Scotland. The only reason he was released was because his death was "imminent." It apparently isn't, so go back to jail.

I can't imagine what the families of his victims think about him enjoying two years of freedom because Scotland was wrong.


Yeah, they were wrong indeed. But that's not a genie you can put back in the bottle really.
 
2011-08-22 09:27:16 PM

elchip: This time I was just quoting Rick Santorum.


haha, I hadn't seen that he said that, but it certainly doesn't surprise me
 
2011-08-22 09:40:24 PM
Iraq War: $792 billion American dollars spent, 4,792 Americans dead, Saddam Hussein removed from power.

Libyan intervention: $1 billion American dollars spent, 0 Americans dead, Muammar Gaddafi removed from power.

And that's how it's done.
 
2011-08-22 09:47:54 PM
Hey Scotland,
You are not a real country. you are ruled by are ruled by a bunch of effete arseholes, it's a shiat state of affairs to be in. So we don't care what you think about the bomber.
thanks,
Labia
 
2011-08-22 09:51:33 PM
without the high level of care that he was receiving from the regime to prolong his life, I don't think he is Muammar's most pressing concern right now, but I'm not sure

or he could just slip out of town in the confusion and go live in the desert
 
2011-08-22 09:52:56 PM

relcec: Hey Scotland,
You are not a real country. you are ruled by are ruled by a bunch of effete arseholes, it's a shiat state of affairs to be in. So we don't care what you think about the bomber.
thanks,
Labia


Away'n fark yersel', ye gommerill.
 
2011-08-22 09:54:19 PM

relcec: Hey Scotland,
You are not a real country. you are ruled by are ruled by a bunch of effete arseholes, it's a shiat state of affairs to be in. So we don't care what you think about the bomber.
thanks,
Labia


libia is worst city in europe
 
2011-08-22 09:54:35 PM

doglover: We should kill the bomber OVERTLY.

He was released on humanitarian grounds with three months to live. On one hand, that seems reasonable.

On the other *ding* time's up. The the Scots should send over a highland soldier with a claymore and a kilt in the offical military tartan and the queen mother herself should give him a writ of safe conduct so he could go down to Libya and humanitarily end the life of the terrorist with one stroke of the sword to the neck.

And if they interfere with this solider in anyway, the UK should invade Libya and try to the the old British Empire going.


I'm OK with this.
 
2011-08-22 09:55:45 PM
*Knock-knock*
 
2011-08-22 09:57:46 PM

TheOther: Let the skirt-wearin' muckmouths say whatever they want to the mu-mu wearin' thugs.


Here's the thing about the scots. They're so stupid, they wear skirts the english (who they hate) invented so they'd stop killing themselves. That might just be the world's cruelest practical joke.
 
2011-08-22 09:58:54 PM

elchip: Iraq War: $792 billion American dollars spent, 4,792 Americans dead, Saddam Hussein removed from power.

Libyan intervention: $1 billion American dollars spent, 0 Americans dead, Muammar Gaddafi removed from power.

And that's how it's done.


except the French quarterbacked this.
 
2011-08-22 09:59:21 PM

DeltaXi65:
Only if he died in 3 months like he was supposed to. Since he's still alive at this point, he should be returned to custody in Scotland. The only reason he was released was because his death was "imminent." It apparently isn't, so go back to jail.

I can't imagine what the families of his victims think about him enjoying two years of freedom because Scotland was wrong.


Those doctors who said the guy only had three months to live, but obviously got their diagnosis wrong reminds me of the Henny Youngman joke: "A doctor gave a man six months to live. The man couldn't pay his bill, so he gave him another six months. "

 
2011-08-22 09:59:46 PM
Umm, guys, according to TFA they paroled him.
 
2011-08-22 10:04:12 PM

nekom: Seems to me if he's been freed, then that's that. Why bother him? He'll either die soon or live a little longer, but I doubt he's much threat to anyone at the moment.


I bet you wouldn't feel the same if one of your loved ones were on that plane. The guy should rot in jail until he's dead.
 
2011-08-22 10:04:58 PM

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: elchip: Iraq War: $792 billion American dollars spent, 4,792 Americans dead, Saddam Hussein removed from power.

Libyan intervention: $1 billion American dollars spent, 0 Americans dead, Muammar Gaddafi removed from power.

And that's how it's done.

except the French quarterbacked this.



Which is also an example of how this should be done. Have allies who actually WANT to be involved and let them run the show from time-to-time. You can't argue with the result or the total lack of any American casualties.
 
2011-08-22 10:06:18 PM

ThisNameSux: nekom: Seems to me if he's been freed, then that's that. Why bother him? He'll either die soon or live a little longer, but I doubt he's much threat to anyone at the moment.

I bet you wouldn't feel the same if one of your loved ones were on that plane. The guy should rot in jail until he's dead.



He should definitely have rotted away in jail, but they LET HIM GO. It's not like the Libyans staged a damn jail break. They did a deal, they let him go. Just because he didn't die as fast as they thought he would...
 
2011-08-22 10:08:38 PM

doglover: We should kill the bomber OVERTLY.

He was released on humanitarian grounds with three months to live. On one hand, that seems reasonable.

On the other *ding* time's up. The the Scots should send over a highland soldier with a claymore and a kilt in the offical military tartan and the queen mother herself should give him a writ of safe conduct so he could go down to Libya and humanitarily end the life of the terrorist with one stroke of the sword to the neck.

And if they interfere with this solider in anyway, the UK should invade Libya and try to the the old British Empire going.


troll.me
 
2011-08-22 10:10:15 PM

nekom: Seems to me if he's been freed, then that's that. Why bother him? He'll either die soon or live a little longer, but I doubt he's much threat to anyone at the moment.


Not to mention it sets REALLY bad president. What happens if the Iranians use the same logic to get William C. Rogers III? (The Captain who shot down an Iranian airliner.) Last I checked the Iranians are still not to happy about that.

The Scots farked up, that's their problem, not his. You don't fix a wrong by doing another wrong. The Scots had the choice of letting him die in prison like we do with most criminals with a life sentence. That's what they SHOULD have done, but they didn't.
 
2011-08-22 10:16:22 PM

doglover: On the other *ding* time's up. The the Scots should send over a highland soldier with a claymore and a kilt in the offical military tartan and the queen mother herself should give him a writ of safe conduct so he could go down to Libya and humanitarily end the life of the terrorist with one stroke of the sword to the neck.


(We see Edinburgh Castle at dusk. The lone piper is silhouetted against the crimson-streaked sky.)

Jeremy (voice over) The lone piper on the battlements of Edinburgh Castle...

(There are a few bars of bagpipe music. Suddenly there is a scream and he disappears. Cut to interior of stone-walled guardroom inside Edinburgh Castle. Ten kilted Scottish guardsmen with bagpipes in a line. A sergeant major at the door taps one on the shoulder.)

RSM: Next!

(The next goes outside. We hear pipes start, the sergeant smiles. Cut to castle battlements. The piper plays and then jumps off We hear the scream as before. Another piper emerges and goes through the same routine.)

Voice Over: Here on top of Edinburgh Castle, in conditions of extreme secrecy, men are being trained for the British Army's first Kamikaze Regiment, the Queen's Own McKamikaze Highlanders. (there is a scream and a piper jumps off, another one emerges and starts to play) So successful has been the training of the Kamikaze Regiment that the numbers have dwindled from 30,000 to just over a dozen in three weeks. What makes these young Scotsmen so keen to kill themselves?
 
2011-08-22 10:22:08 PM
This sounds like a job for Seal Team 6. Come on Obama I was rather impressed with the UBL operation in Pakistan and I have been by no means your biggest fan. Let's have a followup, we know you have the guts to do it now.
 
2011-08-22 10:27:04 PM
Can't be touched overtly without looking bad. He was released and all they want is for him to meet the conditions of his parole.

However, if certain offers were made discretely to members of the Transition Council, who's to say his body doesn't turn up as an "unforseen casualty of the fighting?"
 
2011-08-22 10:27:45 PM
Whattya want to do, Scotland? Free him again? Maybe you can make it an annual ritual until he dies at a ripe old age of 98. That'd be fun, huh?
 
2011-08-22 10:33:13 PM
Send in the rest of seal team six to personally deliver some double tap cola.
 
2011-08-22 10:35:15 PM
I guarantee that if it had been mostly people from the UK that died on that plane that he would never have been released. This is something I will never forgive the Scots for.

It's a stain on your honor forever.
 
2011-08-22 10:38:16 PM
It's not clear Gadaffi or the "Lockerbie bomber" were involved in the destruction of Flight 103. There's a good discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103. Scroll down to SCCRC Review, and you'll see that the UN representative at the trial Köchler described the decisions of the trial and appeal courts as a "spectacular miscarriage of justice". "Köchler also issued a series of statements in 2003, 2005, and 2007 calling for an independent international inquiry into the case." "On 28 June 2007 the SCCRC announced its decision to refer Megrahi's case to the High Court for a second appeal against conviction. The SCCRC's decision was based on facts set out in an 800-page report that determined that "a miscarriage of justice may have occurred". In fact that appeal was in progress when the "bomber" was released for compassionate reasons. Some family survivors asked for a new inquiry because they were unsure of the original result being valid. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6427497/Lockerbie-families-lobby-Gordon-Brown-fo r-public-inquiry.html? You can read about the doubts of the UN monitor at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_K%C3%B6chler%27s_Lockerbie_trial_observer_miss ion Read also about Scottish lawyer Robert Black, who helped design the trial format (using a panel of judges rather than a jury of peers) , and who concluded the case against the convicted Libyan was very weak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Black_%28professor%29#Lockerbie_bombing "In an interview with The Scotsman on 1 November 2005 Professor Black said Megrahi's conviction was "the most disgraceful miscarriage of justice in Scotland for 100 years." Both Black and the UN representative filed a joint petition seeking a public inquiry. http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/Legal-experts-call--for.4498100.jp One of the issues they hoped would be investigated involved possible payouts to the witnesses against the Libyan defendants.
 
2011-08-22 10:40:13 PM
Face it, Scots, you were fooled. He is and will be alive for a long time while over 270 men, women and children perished at his hand.Get him back and give him justice.
 
2011-08-22 10:41:00 PM

shower_in_my_socks: You can't argue with the result


The result has yet to be written. The Shah is gone. Allende is gone. Batista is gone. Yet look who replaced them. You can go from bad to worse.
 
2011-08-22 10:45:57 PM
Lockerbie bomber... Somehow cured of cancer since escaping the British health care system. Amazing!
 
2011-08-22 10:46:23 PM
I'm guessing that guy from Olso will only spend a year in jail based on their math.
 
2011-08-22 10:47:11 PM

elchip: [peregrine5700.files.wordpress.com image 600x300]


Really? You do realize that... Not sure if...
 
2011-08-22 10:50:28 PM
Scotland farked up. No doubt about that. But, the only sensible way to right that wrong is to fly in there, capture that farker out of the blue, arbitrarily revoke his parole and publicly apologize for being so stupid. Possibly executing him live on Youtube.

It's never too late to do the job right until it is.
 
2011-08-22 10:56:55 PM

elchip: Iraq War: $792 billion American dollars spent, 4,792 Americans dead, Saddam Hussein removed from power.

Libyan intervention: $1 billion American dollars spent, 0 Americans dead, Muammar Gaddafi removed from power.

And that's how it's done.


in all fairness. Saddam was removed quickly from power and the actual war was over. It was the aftermath of the war where most of the bad stuff happened. We will have to wait and see how Libya develops.
 
2011-08-22 11:00:04 PM

DeltaXi65: nekom: DeltaXi65: He killed 189 Americans. He should be in prison until he drops dead.

It's unfortunate that two years later, Scotland is starting to think they may have screwed up, considering it was obvious to the rest of the world when they made their decision.

I agree, and they should have never released him in the first place. But they did, so shouldn't that be that?

Only if he died in 3 months like he was supposed to. Since he's still alive at this point, he should be returned to custody in Scotland. The only reason he was released was because his death was "imminent." It apparently isn't, so go back to jail.

I can't imagine what the families of his victims think about him enjoying two years of freedom because Scotland was wrong.


That was crap and we know it. The UK sold out the free world for oil. And now that the leader they made the deal with is gone.
 
2011-08-22 11:01:01 PM
Friend of mine is from Edinburgh and she and her family are of the opinion that the guy was railroaded in the first place. Apparently a common sentiment amongst educated 30-somethings over there
FWIW
 
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