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(Some Guy)   On the 20th anniversary of the Crown Heights riots the father of the young black boy killed and the brother of the Jewish man stabbed to death sit together at a deli as friends   (ynetnews.com) divider line 75
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2011-08-22 09:29:38 AM
www.silveremulsion.com
 
2011-08-22 09:35:28 AM
Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?
 
2011-08-22 09:37:38 AM

Ender's: [www.silveremulsion.com image 640x389]


came for this reference, leaving satiated.
 
2011-08-22 09:46:45 AM
Missing from the article: Democrat activist Al Sharpton's role in the riots.

/recently rewarded with his own tv show on the ever partisan MSNBC network for liberal theology
 
2011-08-22 09:46:51 AM

protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?


And who paid for the meal?
 
2011-08-22 09:49:03 AM

probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?


Black guy paid. Jewish guy covered the tip (although he cut a 1/4th off of it for some reason).
 
2011-08-22 09:49:15 AM
Begin typical FARK jew hate in 3....2...
 
2011-08-22 09:50:14 AM
That's a very good story to arise from common tragedy.
 
2011-08-22 09:52:01 AM

probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?


Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?
 
2011-08-22 09:52:55 AM

FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?


Why'd they change it?
 
2011-08-22 09:52:56 AM

SouthernManDunWrong: Missing from the article: Democrat activist Al Sharpton's role in the riots.

/recently rewarded with his own tv show on the ever partisan MSNBC network for liberal theology




Link (new window)
 
2011-08-22 09:54:42 AM

probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?


I can't say.
 
2011-08-22 09:54:58 AM

probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?


I can't say...
 
2011-08-22 09:55:40 AM

The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.


drats!
 
2011-08-22 09:56:34 AM

The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.


People just liked it better that way.
 
2011-08-22 09:57:58 AM

walkerhound: Ender's: [www.silveremulsion.com image 640x389]

came for this reference, leaving satiated.


Fight the powers that be.
 
2011-08-22 09:59:00 AM
my ex insisted he was stabbed during the crown heights riots.

He would've been around 11 at the time.

/dude was one racist mo-fo
 
2011-08-22 10:01:28 AM

SouthernManDunWrong: Missing from the article: DemocratRace-baiting activist Al Sharpton's role in the riots.


Not to say he's not a Democrat. It's just irrelevant to Crown Heights.
 
2011-08-22 10:04:08 AM

FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.



After 3 Anglo-Dutch wars; New Netherlands and New Amsterdam were ceded by the Dutch to the English, who renamed them after the English city of York. Mid 17th century.
 
2011-08-22 10:05:52 AM

Little.Alex: FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.


After 3 Anglo-Dutch wars; New Netherlands and New Amsterdam were ceded by the Dutch to the English, who renamed them after the English city of York. Mid 17th century.


Not a They Might be Giants fan, are you?
 
2011-08-22 10:06:35 AM

Little.Alex: FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.


After 3 Anglo-Dutch wars; New Netherlands and New Amsterdam were ceded by the Dutch to the English, who renamed them after the English city of York. Mid 17th century.


So you're saying it's been a long time gone?
 
2011-08-22 10:13:34 AM

RexTalionis: Little.Alex: FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.


After 3 Anglo-Dutch wars; New Netherlands and New Amsterdam were ceded by the Dutch to the English, who renamed them after the English city of York. Mid 17th century.

Not a They Might be Giants fan, are you?


No. Do they write history books?
 
2011-08-22 10:18:15 AM

protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?


Cause Jews can't eat pork ribs?
 
2011-08-22 10:18:40 AM

Little.Alex: RexTalionis: Little.Alex: FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.


After 3 Anglo-Dutch wars; New Netherlands and New Amsterdam were ceded by the Dutch to the English, who renamed them after the English city of York. Mid 17th century.

Not a They Might be Giants fan, are you?

No. Do they write history books?


Yes.
 
2011-08-22 10:18:49 AM

cig-mkr: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

Cause Jews can't eat pork ribs?


They can, they'd just be terrible Jews.
 
2011-08-22 10:18:50 AM

Little.Alex: RexTalionis: Little.Alex: FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.


After 3 Anglo-Dutch wars; New Netherlands and New Amsterdam were ceded by the Dutch to the English, who renamed them after the English city of York. Mid 17th century.

Not a They Might be Giants fan, are you?

No. Do they write history books?


suvudu.com
 
2011-08-22 10:20:56 AM
A Jewish ambulance arrived and, some witnesses said, tended to the driver but ignored the boy who was crushed underneath the vehicle.

The problem with this was according the the NYPD official report, the Jewish ambulance, Hatzalah, did start to treat Gavin, but the local officers on the scene ordered them away, afraid the EMT's were in danger from the mob that was forming. They apologized for this, a year later.

Three hours later, a gang of blacks shouting, "Get the Jew!" fatally stabbed Yankel Rosenbaum, a rabbinical student.

Actually he was a Doctoral student here in New York, and studied at a religious institution on the side. Ironically his thesis he was working on the Pogroms in Poland against jews and Jews being killed by non-jewish mobs. Also when his murderer was let free the Australian consulate here in NY was up in arms as he Rosenbaum was an Australian citizen here on a student Visa

Kelly said in an interview with TV station New York 1 that the lessons learned helped better prepare the department for the future.

"We realize that we should have acted more quickly in the additional hours of Crown Heights," he said.


What about the report by IA that said that the police were ordered not to get interfere, this directly from the Mayors office. One incident the NYPD was sued over (The NYPD lost) was a man who was beaten and his skull cracked open by a mob, only 10 feet from a dozen cops who refused to help him, and they didn;t even call an ambulance, that was called by a private citizen. The man sued and won 200k from the city.

-------------------------

Since the riots the two communities have worked closer together and Jewish performers perform at black events and visa vera. The local leader have used this as a way to heal wounds. Besides many of the rioters came in by Bus from the outside, like East New York, and many of them were not from Crown Heights. My cousins told me that their black neighbors in the complex protected them and went out on food runs for them, since Jews were too scared to go out on the street. They also said that many black employees of Jewish stores went out to protect their bosses businesses (my cousin gave his two Afro-Caribbean works nice bonuses and raises for saving his store). Many of the Crown Heights black protected the Jews and many of the rioters were from out-side the community brought in by agitators like Fat-Ass-Al who made a lot of anti-semetic remarks and called for the mob to get the jews, riled people up. In fact had Al not been there the mob would have dissipated pretty quickly.
 
2011-08-22 10:34:50 AM

Little.Alex: Begin typical FARK jew hate in 3....2...


OMG SOMEONE SAID THE JEWS ARE NOT ALWAYS 100 PERCENT RIGHT.... OH CRAP THEY MUST BE JEW HATERS!!!!! HANG THEM!!!!!
 
2011-08-22 10:35:45 AM
madamenoire.com

Got to be one of the worst people in the USA.

www.womansday.com

And that's him with Tawana.
 
2011-08-22 10:38:39 AM

Little.Alex: [madamenoire.com image 255x313]

Got to be one of the worst people in the USA.

[www.womansday.com image 628x371]

And that's him with Tawana.


He has luxurious hair.
 
2011-08-22 10:41:24 AM
FTA: Days of rioting from both sides followed. Angry crowds broke windows, looted, shouted "Heil Hitler!"

WTF, blacks? I wonder if they were KKK members disguised as blacks.
 
2011-08-22 10:49:34 AM

Guess_Who: Little.Alex: [madamenoire.com image 255x313]

Got to be one of the worst people in the USA.

[www.womansday.com image 628x371]

And that's him with Tawana.

He has luxurious hair.


Well, a good conditioner doesn't have to be expensive.

I love a guy who has the nerve to run for the Presidency with a 3rd grade education. He should fit right in on MSNBC.
 
2011-08-22 11:09:02 AM

Little.Alex: [madamenoire.com image 255x313]

Got to be one of the worst people in the USA.

[www.womansday.com image 628x371]

And that's him with Tawana.


I was living in Virginia Beach when Tawana moved there after all the hype.
 
2011-08-22 11:09:23 AM

probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?


and what about the tip...
 
2011-08-22 11:13:01 AM
Days of rioting from both sides followed.

What a load of unmitigated bollocks. It wasn't 'riots from both sides', only one side was in the street rioting.

It was a pogrom, it wasn't two ethnic groups clashing.
 
2011-08-22 11:15:12 AM

cig-mkr: Little.Alex: [madamenoire.com image 255x313]

Got to be one of the worst people in the USA.

[www.womansday.com image 628x371]

And that's him with Tawana.

I was living in Virginia Beach when Tawana moved there after all the hype.


So, did you do her?
 
2011-08-22 11:15:46 AM

Little.Alex: [madamenoire.com image 255x313]

Got to be one of the worst people in the USA.

[www.womansday.com image 628x371]

And that's him with Tawana.


Came for the riot inciting reverend, leaving satisfied.
 
2011-08-22 11:22:00 AM
I remember this like it was yesterday. 20 years. Man.
 
2011-08-22 11:28:46 AM

FarkedOver: The Bestest: probesport: FarkedOver: probesport: protectyourlimbs: Why a deli? Why not at a neutral site?

And who paid for the meal?

Since it was in a city formerly called New Amsterdam, maybe they went dutch?

Why'd they change it?

I can't say.

People just liked it better that way.


LOL
 
2011-08-22 11:33:51 AM
i486.photobucket.com
 
2011-08-22 11:41:44 AM
FTFA: "A Jewish ambulance arrived and, some witnesses said, tended to the driver but ignored the boy who was crushed underneath the vehicle."

fark what some witnesses said, what did the official investigation say?
Were there changes in how ambulances tended to victims, or not?
 
2011-08-22 11:45:44 AM

Little.Alex:

I love a guy who has the nerve to run for the Presidency with a 3rd grade education. He should fit right in on MSNBC.

He actually is a college dropout, after getting 2 years in.

thisone: my ex insisted he was stabbed during the crown heights riots.

He would've been around 11 at the time


He was stabbed, 2 years earlier during a protest march in Bensonhurst. He was 25 at the time.

Christ, guys.
 
2011-08-22 11:47:25 AM

Guess_Who: FTA: Days of rioting from both sides followed. Angry crowds broke windows, looted, shouted "Heil Hitler!"

WTF, blacks? I wonder if they were KKK members disguised as blacks.


It was wrong to shout 'get the jew' and attack an innocent who was not the EMT on duty, and then to commence the attack three hours later.

It was also wrong to do this: FTFA: "A funeral procession for the death of a rabbi in the ultra-Orthodox Lubavitch community drove by, racing to beat the sunset, and one car fell behind, speeding to catch up. "

Shiat doesn't happen in a vacuum. Ultra Orthodox? Bad blood between communities for a loooooooooong time. (Remember that passage in Manchild in the Promised Land, where dude described working at the Jewish dude's place, and the Jewish dude set out the good meat for one set of people... but specified setting out the green scrapped meat for blacks? Probably not the same group, but given what New Yorkers have said about Hasids treat one another versus how they treat everyone else......) Was the issue of how to better deal with funeral processions so that this never happens again with folks being left behind and then speeding to catch up, was that ever dealt with after things simmered down? or was that lost?
 
2011-08-22 11:47:41 AM
"It's about remembering what racism and anti-Semitism can do to the most sophisticated, advanced democracy known to mankind."

Finland?
 
2011-08-22 11:53:22 AM

jedihirsch: A Jewish ambulance arrived and, some witnesses said, tended to the driver but ignored the boy who was crushed underneath the vehicle.

The problem with this was according the the NYPD official report, the Jewish ambulance, Hatzalah, did start to treat Gavin, but the local officers on the scene ordered them away, afraid the EMT's were in danger from the mob that was forming. They apologized for this, a year later.

Three hours later, a gang of blacks shouting, "Get the Jew!" fatally stabbed Yankel Rosenbaum, a rabbinical student.

Actually he was a Doctoral student here in New York, and studied at a religious institution on the side. Ironically his thesis he was working on the Pogroms in Poland against jews and Jews being killed by non-jewish mobs. Also when his murderer was let free the Australian consulate here in NY was up in arms as he Rosenbaum was an Australian citizen here on a student Visa

Kelly said in an interview with TV station New York 1 that the lessons learned helped better prepare the department for the future.

"We realize that we should have acted more quickly in the additional hours of Crown Heights," he said.

What about the report by IA that said that the police were ordered not to get interfere, this directly from the Mayors office. One incident the NYPD was sued over (The NYPD lost) was a man who was beaten and his skull cracked open by a mob, only 10 feet from a dozen cops who refused to help him, and they didn;t even call an ambulance, that was called by a private citizen. The man sued and won 200k from the city.



Thank you for additional information. I guess the answer to the question about what was and was not included in this anniversary article is that this is a report in ynet.com, in the section "Israel News" as written by Rabbi Levi Brackman ▪ Rivkah Lubiatch. I do not know who they are, whether they are journalist journalists, or bloggers raised to journalist.
 
2011-08-22 11:55:27 AM

walkerhound: Ender's: [www.silveremulsion.com image 640x389]

came for this reference, leaving satiated.


And people hate this movie, why?
 
2011-08-22 12:02:19 PM
www.dba-oracle.com
 
2011-08-22 12:11:23 PM
"Today is about commemorating the loss of two lives," Rosenbaum said on Friday's anniversary. "It's about remembering what racism and anti-Semitism can do to the most sophisticated, advanced democracy known to mankind."

After watching the elected idiots in Washington (especially the republicans and their slave masters the Tea baggers) make a mockery of our democracy, I would take issue with that characterization.
 
2011-08-22 12:15:42 PM
That was the year I moved to Brooklyn, we were kitty corner across Prospect Park from the riots. I remember it as primarily a bunch of teenagers. It was sad and embarrassing.

I'm glad cooler heads finally prevailed. Crown Heights is an awesome neighborhood it would have sucked if it was burned to the ground. It a weird way it seemed to actually improve race relations between the secular and religious communities in the neighborhood. I dunno, that was a pretty intense summer overall.

I saw a stabbing on the train and a guy got his head blown off in front of our apartment over a parking lot dispute. It seemed like the world had gone completely mad.
 
2011-08-22 12:26:37 PM
Somebody must be tossing the pepper around rather freely, because there's some in my eyes.
 
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