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(CBS New York)   Obama gives finger to Mayor Bloomberg, tells poor folks to stock up on the bubbly wonderness   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 153
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2011-08-20 08:35:13 AM
Jessica Shahin, associate administrator of the program, wrote that the proposal lacked clear product eligibility guidelines, didn't take into account the burden that might be placed on city food retailers and failed to put forward a credible design for evaluating the effect on obesity and health.

It's ok subby, we understand that reasonable counter-points can be hard to grasp.
We know it's more exciting to your primitive brain to shriek about the president any chance you get. And we know the only kind of reacting you're capable of is over-reacting. Go ahead and climb back into your Toby Keith bed sheets and fall back asleep. Itll all be better in the morning.

/the government has no right to force people to diet, but they can use their power to persuade people into healthier lifestyles. A good example is making sure public schools provide healthy balanced meals for kids.

/also, people drink sports drinks when they're sick. And also when they....ummm...EXERCISE....so why would they need to be banned? Glad it didn't get approved.

/abuse of the slashie :(
 
2011-08-20 08:57:31 AM
People who rely on others to provide their food cannot be trusted to make good decisions about what they eat. Make only unbranded, unprocessed food available to them. Things like beans, vegetables, powdered milk etc. It would cost less, improve health and provide an incentive to rise above the welfare lifestyle.
 
2011-08-20 09:01:57 AM

Il Douchey: People who rely on others to provide their food cannot be trusted to make good decisions about what they eat


Well then, let's make restaurants illegal!
 
2011-08-20 09:06:44 AM

GAT_00: Well then, let's make restaurants illegal!


Show me a restaurant that accepts food stamps.

/ reading comprehension, how does it work?
 
2011-08-20 09:09:37 AM

Man On A Mission: GAT_00: Well then, let's make restaurants illegal!

Show me a restaurant that accepts food stamps.

/ reading comprehension, how does it work?


It was a stupid thing to say from a stupid person, it deserves nothing more than snark.
 
2011-08-20 09:12:15 AM
Oh hells naw, ain't nobody takin' away our grape drank, huh uh!
 
2011-08-20 09:29:49 AM
Okay, let me get this straight. We want small government, except for poor people? Is that the new plan?
 
2011-08-20 09:42:17 AM

MorrisBird: Okay, let me get this straight. We want small government, except for poor people? Is that the new plan?


Whenever you hear anyone use the term "small government", just add "for everyone but me" to it for clarity.
 
2011-08-20 10:14:30 AM
Just tax the shiat out of soft drinks like you do liquor. That crap isn't good for anyone.
 
2011-08-20 10:18:37 AM
Instead of food stamps there should be a warehouse where people come and get their supply of food. No soda, candy, chips, etc.
 
2011-08-20 10:21:03 AM
Obama has been giving the finger to all of US. Why should Bloomberg be any different
 
2011-08-20 10:26:39 AM
Obvious tag combo breaker.
 
2011-08-20 10:43:16 AM

Errk: Instead of food stamps there should be a warehouse where people come and get their supply of food.


static.guim.co.uk
 
2011-08-20 10:50:11 AM

Errk: Instead of food stamps there should be a warehouse where people come and get their supply of food. No soda, candy, chips, etc.


That sounds socialist.
 
2011-08-20 11:02:48 AM
Food stamps is one of the most successful social programs in the history of the United States (Republicans who disagree should ask Bob Dole).

Debate over which foods are eligible has always been a part of the discussion, which I believe is a good thing as we learn more about what is and isn't healthy, how we can encourage recipients to use food stamps for healthy items and determine how best to make those foods available where most recipients live. I think this is a good question and the rebuttal by the USDA was a good response seeking clarification.

Of course, I don't expect the anti-government/anti-Obama crowd to understand the nuances, preferring instead to couch this in terms of "Obama/government bad."
 
2011-08-20 11:03:47 AM

MorrisBird: Okay, let me get this straight. We want small government, except for poor people? Is that the new plan?


No. The new plan is to let them buy what they want but accept the consequences. Diabetes? Tough shiat. Rotten teeth? Too farking bad. Heart problems? Sucks to be you.

Yeah, I'm good with that.
 
2011-08-20 11:07:42 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: MorrisBird: Okay, let me get this straight. We want small government, except for poor people? Is that the new plan?

No. The new plan is to let them buy what they want but accept the consequences. Diabetes? Tough shiat. Rotten teeth? Too farking bad. Heart problems? Sucks to be you.

Yeah, I'm good with that.


Yeah, except when you realize that most of these same people are on Medicaid, you dumbass.
 
2011-08-20 11:19:16 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, except when you realize that most of these same people are on Medicaid, you dumbass.


I think you missed my point there Professor.
 
2011-08-20 11:21:33 AM
how about if you want food stamps you have to take a 3 hour class on basic health and nutrition?
 
2011-08-20 11:24:01 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, except when you realize that most of these same people are on Medicaid, you dumbass.

I think you missed my point there Professor.


No, I got the point. You want them to eat as much shiat as they want. Surely you're not suggesting we abolish Medicaid to punish a few people who eat shiat?
 
2011-08-20 11:26:23 AM

vernonFL: how about if you want food stamps you have to take a 3 hour class on basic health and nutrition?


Or, how about we eliminate the "food deserts" where many food stamp recipients live so that they have options other than the mini-mart? We could also change public school food programs to focus only on healthy foods. We can also make a better attempt to understand the cultural factors that influence food choices and provide community education appropriately.

Your 3-hour class would have no lasting effect. The measures I outlined would.
 
2011-08-20 11:33:59 AM
Maybe they could set it up so garbage food and sugary drinks cost thrice as much when paid for with food stamps.

Make people actually decide if they want that case of Pepsi or that pound of chicken.
 
2011-08-20 11:36:23 AM

cameroncrazy1984: You want them to eat as much shiat as they want. Surely you're not suggesting we abolish Medicaid to punish a few people who eat shiat?


Who is punishing whom here?
 
2011-08-20 11:36:40 AM
Oh, and here's a little something for the anti-government program people to chew on: For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy. And it has the tiny little byproduct of having pretty much eliminated hunger as a cause of death in the United States.

Not too shabby for government work.
 
2011-08-20 11:42:27 AM

Howie Spankowitz: Oh, and here's a little something for the anti-government program people to chew on: For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy. And it has the tiny little byproduct of having pretty much eliminated hunger as a cause of death in the United States.

Not too shabby for government work.


Forget the ROI for food stamps as a justification.

Simply put, when people's bellies are empty and rumbling, and especially when their children's bellies are empty and rumbling, they tend to do things like turn to crime. When there are enough people like that, they tend to turn to social upheaval. A welfare state, if done correctly, is the best insurance policy against a communist or fascist uprising.
 
2011-08-20 11:46:30 AM

Howie Spankowitz: Oh, and here's a little something for the anti-government program people to chew on: For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy. And it has the tiny little byproduct of having pretty much eliminated hunger as a cause of death in the United States.

Not too shabby for government work.


You think people who are anti-government care about if/how OTHER people die?
 
2011-08-20 11:50:29 AM

Aarontology: Howie Spankowitz: Oh, and here's a little something for the anti-government program people to chew on: For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy. And it has the tiny little byproduct of having pretty much eliminated hunger as a cause of death in the United States.

Not too shabby for government work.

Forget the ROI for food stamps as a justification.

Simply put, when people's bellies are empty and rumbling, and especially when their children's bellies are empty and rumbling, they tend to do things like turn to crime. When there are enough people like that, they tend to turn to social upheaval. A welfare state, if done correctly, is the best insurance policy against a communist or fascist uprising.


I agree. I stupidly persist in believing that if I couch the argument in terms "conservatives" think they understand, that they will come around. I know they won't...and yet.
 
2011-08-20 11:52:54 AM

dletter: Howie Spankowitz: Oh, and here's a little something for the anti-government program people to chew on: For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy. And it has the tiny little byproduct of having pretty much eliminated hunger as a cause of death in the United States.

Not too shabby for government work.

You think people who are anti-government care about if/how OTHER people die?


No, I generally do not, which is why I highlighted the economic argument.
 
2011-08-20 11:57:55 AM

Howie Spankowitz: : For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy.


Goddamn. That's one a hell of a ROI. Let's put the entire population on food stamps. Economy problem, SOLVED!
 
2011-08-20 12:01:50 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Howie Spankowitz: : For every $1 in food stamps the government provides, it injects $1.73 into the economy.

Goddamn. That's one a hell of a ROI. Let's put the entire population on food stamps. Economy problem, SOLVED!


That's exactly what I was proposing. Astute, as always.
 
2011-08-20 12:06:23 PM
Well it's dumb. If stopping obesity is your goal, tax the fark out of processed food and use the money to subsidize whole foods.

Don't screw with people who need food assistance just because you can. They didn't do anything wrong.
 
2011-08-20 12:07:53 PM

Il Douchey: People who rely on others to provide their food cannot be trusted to make good decisions about what they eat. Make only unbranded, unprocessed food available to them. Things like beans, vegetables, powdered milk etc. It would cost less, improve health and provide an incentive to rise above the welfare lifestyle.


Good luck getting the corporate dick sucking Republicans to agree to that. Think of all the money Kraft, General Mills and Pepsico will lose!
 
2011-08-20 12:09:59 PM

Howie Spankowitz: That's exactly what I was proposing. Astute, as always.


If you're not, maybe you should. Sounds to me like a sure thing.
 
2011-08-20 12:12:59 PM
You can sure tell the subby's intelligence when he speaks about Obama in the article, and Obama isn't in the article.

Farking stupid to post with that headline, farking stupid mods for green-lighting it.
Get your shait straight.
 
2011-08-20 12:14:05 PM
God damn DIA, you are farkin dumb. A glass of wine a day is good for your health, so if we made it mandatory for every person in America to drink 20 glasses of wine a day, we could close down our hospitals, right?
 
2011-08-20 12:15:04 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Howie Spankowitz: That's exactly what I was proposing. Astute, as always.

If you're not, maybe you should. Sounds to me like a sure thing.


Go ahead and let go and just whisper to yourself: "Government can create jobs. Government can stimulate the economy." Keep whispering it until it doesn't sting your bunghole so much. You don't have to be stuck in black and white thinking. A whole world opens up to you, if you just let yourself admit it.

Don't make me start singing the theme to "Aladdin."
 
2011-08-20 12:15:36 PM

Jackson Herring: God damn DIA, you are farkin dumb. A glass of wine a day is good for your health, so if we made it mandatory for every person in America to drink 20 glasses of wine a day, we could close down our hospitals, right?


If fix-a-flat is so great, why don't you put a nail in all your tires hurr hurr.
 
2011-08-20 12:19:46 PM

MorrisBird: Okay, let me get this straight. We want small government, except for poor people? Is that the new plan?


We want a government small enough to fit into a woman's uterus!
 
2011-08-20 12:21:53 PM

Il Douchey: People who rely on others to provide their food cannot be trusted to make good decisions about what they eat. Make only unbranded, unprocessed food available to them. Things like beans, vegetables, powdered milk etc. It would cost less, improve health and provide an incentive to rise above the welfare lifestyle.


I agree with what Il Douchey said. I feel dirty and I'm gonna go shower.
 
2011-08-20 12:23:12 PM

Jackson Herring: God damn DIA, you are farkin dumb. A glass of wine a day is good for your health, so if we made it mandatory for every person in America to drink 20 glasses of wine a day, we could close down our hospitals, right?


Well, seeing as people need hospitals for things other than that which might be helped by red wine, Ima say...no.

But when we are getting a 173% return on just one program, I say go all in! You think we can get the same if there's a 'car stamp' program? How about a 'house stamp' program? The possibilities are limitless!
 
2011-08-20 12:23:30 PM

DarnoKonrad: Don't screw with people who need food assistance just because you can. They didn't do anything wrong.


Don't be silly. Those people are poor, therefore they must have done something wrong!
 
2011-08-20 12:24:19 PM

darkhorse23: We want a government small enough to fit into a woman's uterus!


Maybe you do, but not me.

;-*
 
2011-08-20 12:26:57 PM

Il Douchey: People who rely on others to provide their food cannot be trusted to make good decisions about what they eat. Make only unbranded, unprocessed food available to them. Things like beans, vegetables, powdered milk etc. It would cost less, improve health and provide an incentive to rise above the welfare lifestyle.


Nice how you want to go around telling poor people that they are only allowed a diet of beans and powdered milk for the rest of their lives.

You're only one pink slip away from becoming one of them. Never forget that.
 
2011-08-20 12:28:52 PM

Il Douchey: Things like beans, vegetables, powdered milk etc. It would cost less, improve health and provide an incentive to rise above the welfare lifestyle.


Because otherwise, people would have no incentive to rise above the welfare lifestyle. This is what Republicans actually think.
 
2011-08-20 12:32:25 PM
Letting poor people starve and die seems to be a very effective way of eliminating poverty.
 
2011-08-20 12:38:35 PM
barred food stamp recipients from using their benefits to buy sodas, teas,

They tried to take away people's TEA? Hanging's too good for them.
 
2011-08-20 12:40:17 PM

DarnoKonrad: Don't screw with people who need food assistance just because you can. They didn't do anything wrong.


Yes they did, they committed the unforgivable sin of not being born into a family of billionaires, and Supply-Side Jesus will surely toss them into the pit of fire and shariagaymarriageabortions for it.
 
2011-08-20 12:41:17 PM
Oh, look another 'The Darks Are Take All My Monies!!!!!!11!' thread.

insert Craig T Nelson jpeg.
 
2011-08-20 12:46:12 PM

Gordon Bennett: They tried to take away people's TEA? Hanging's too good for them.


You sound English. Or, Chinese.
 
2011-08-20 12:46:28 PM

farkityfarker: Letting poor people starve and die seems to be a very effective way of eliminating poverty.


It worked in France in the 1780s!
 
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