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(Mother Nature Network)   The Great Drought of 2011 has cost Texas $5.2 billion. This will never happen if Gov. Perry was president. Because then he'd control the weather   ( mnn.com) divider line
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2011-08-19 11:50:46 AM  

Kar98: This is a local lake, last year, and now:


Holy Frijoles! Is that a dock in the inset?


Mykeru: For some reason I read the headline as "The Great Doughnut of 2011", which would be pretty cool, IMHO.

Not a Krumpes donut. Therefore it is not worthy.
 
2011-08-19 11:51:54 AM  

fireclown: Holy Frijoles! Is that a dock in the inset?


The same dock (and angle) I was standing on to take the larger picture.
 
2011-08-19 11:52:06 AM  

Kit Fister: Lord Dimwit: Kit Fister: HotWingConspiracy: DingleberryMoose: Those aren't conservative viewpoints, they're fundie viewpoints. The groups overlap somewhat, but not near completely. Don't lump people like me (generally conservative, occasionally left-leaning, mainstream Christian) in with those people.

I'm sorry man, but they've hijacked your ideology. You stand shoulder to shoulder with those people in the voting booth.

True, but when one is voting for a common interest, does it matter? Or should we vote for candidates that don't match our viewpoints just to spite the wingnuts, despite the fact that the ideology of those folks is pretty opposed to what we believe in?

Look at my father in law who truly believes all taxation is theft, but is also an atheist. He consistently votes for incredibly crazy fundamentalist Christians every time. It's pathological. How people who believe in what Christ supposedly said can be opposed to the social helping of the poor, prisoners and the ill boggles my mind.

He (my FIL) explains that he doesn't agree with all that but he votes for them for other reasons. Well, if you vote exclusively Republican (which he does), that is a tacit agreement with the planks of the party platform. You can't say "oh, I voted fascist but I support civil rights, I just want to make the trains run on time." If the majority of the party believes something and you vote for them in every single election, whether you admit it or not, you are endorsing everything they stand for.

Couple of points:

1. I think most of the conservatives who are against social programs are not against them because the programs are bad. They're against them because they do not believe it is the place of government to spend taxpayer money to support these folks, instead suggesting that it should be a private system.

2. With regards to voting, the primaries, etc...As an independent, I cannot vote in either party's primary elections. Even if I DO vote in my party's primary elections, supposing I'm a republican or a democrat, unless the majority of the party think as I do, my vote doesn't make shiat of difference. So, when it comes down to the real election, my choices are between two party candidates of which I have to pick the one that is closer to my view points, or voting for a third party, or abstaining from voting.

So, the problem with these viewpoints is that while I don't WANT to support someone whose totally evangelical and all, but if my choices are between that person, a third party-non-winner, and someone else I don't agree with, what choice do I make?


I don't agree with the Democratic Party on most things, but when it comes down to the choice between a party whose leaders publicly say that they wish to establish a Christian theocracy, who truly believe that the best-documented birth in American history is a fifty year conspiracy, who campaign to amend the US Constitution to deny equal rights to whole classes of people, and who resort to things like "death panels!", or a party that's inept and agrees with essentially 70% of the Republican Party's goals, go for the party that doesn't want to create a theocratic state.

The problem is that the Republican Party may be closer to your viewpoints on a lot of things, but is all of the baggage worth it? I suppose that's up to you, but I could never vote for someone who was in favor of amending the constitution to deny equal rights to homosexuals just because they're also pro-labor union, y'know? Civil rights are more important than labor policy in my mind, no matter how much the latter is important to me.

Or vote third party and push for your local polity to switch to something other than a first-past-the-post system.
 
2011-08-19 11:53:27 AM  

APE992: Kar98: LindLTaylor: Shut up dimwit. You have no idea what you are talking about. We are not even on voluntary water restrictions right now

See, that's what I'm talking about. The government haven't told me to save water so I won't! And if they do, blast them for telling me what to do!

This is a local lake, last year, and now:

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We're not under any kind of water restrictions either. Apparently that doesn't mean shiat.

I wouldn't call that a lake, more like a deep pond.

Lakes are usually deep enough to not go dry, even if that means barely any water.


Texas is chock-full of something called playa lakes, especially on the plains. We have thousands of them. Some go dry almost annually, some don't. For someone not familiar with the specifics of the topography here, it might seem odd to call them lakes, but they're all we have except impounded reservoirs.
 
2011-08-19 11:58:02 AM  

DingleberryMoose: Texas is chock-full of something called playa lakes, especially on the plains. We have thousands of them. Some go dry almost annually, some don't. For someone not familiar with the specifics of the topography here, it might seem odd to call them lakes, but they're all we have except impounded reservoirs.


yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.
 
2011-08-19 11:59:59 AM  

Hobodeluxe: DingleberryMoose: Texas is chock-full of something called playa lakes, especially on the plains. We have thousands of them. Some go dry almost annually, some don't. For someone not familiar with the specifics of the topography here, it might seem odd to call them lakes, but they're all we have except impounded reservoirs.

yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.


My buddy's lake at his ranch as dropped at least 7 feet. It's scary when you can touch the bottom at the center of the lake.
 
2011-08-19 12:01:05 PM  
The people who run Texas are idiots (the politicians, anyway). They just happen to be (for the most part) Republican idiots. Thus the Republican idiocy that does stupid shiat like ranting about Obama and holding big "religious" confabs. Which, BTW, was just an extremely cynical and not at all subtle act by Perry to curry favor with the religious morons who think that making a big public show of fake religious devotion indicates fitness for public office.

Perry doesn't believe any of the religious shiat he spouts. Bush probably actually did because is dumber than he is cynical. Perry is more cynical than religious. Which doesn't mean he'd be any better as president than Bush was. I'm guessing the Republican powers that be would rather have Perry as the candidate than Romney (since Romney is a Mormon, and many religious types among Republican voters consider Mormons little more than a cult). And none of the other Republican candidates are considered (by serious people) viable candidates. That crazy biatch from Minnesota is just Palin 2.0. The others are either considered equally crazy (Paul) or just nonentities (everyone else). Perry represents a large state with lots of electoral votes. Those are his qualifications. And he probably has some connections as well, and he's considered to be "business friendly," meaning he'd have no problem farking over working people if it helps corporations. Perfect Republican candidate.

Don't worry about feeling left out, CA and NY (for example). We know your states are run by idiots, too.
 
2011-08-19 12:02:06 PM  

Hobodeluxe: yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.


Martin Creek Lake is supposed to be 35 feet deep in normal years.
 
2011-08-19 12:03:10 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Hobodeluxe: DingleberryMoose: Texas is chock-full of something called playa lakes, especially on the plains. We have thousands of them. Some go dry almost annually, some don't. For someone not familiar with the specifics of the topography here, it might seem odd to call them lakes, but they're all we have except impounded reservoirs.

yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.

My buddy's lake at his ranch as dropped at least 7 feet. It's scary when you can touch the bottom at the center of the lake.


we call those ponds around here :) Our lakes have dams and make electricity for us.
 
2011-08-19 12:04:58 PM  

fireclown: Not a Krumpes donut.


What is a Krumpes? Is that like a the intellectual property violating Chinese knock-off version of a Krispy Creme?

Meanwhile, back to the subject at hand...

images.cheezburger.com
 
2011-08-19 12:05:01 PM  
Here in Dallas, it's important to keep your foundation wet during high temp dry periods. Most homes in the area are built over a clay bed as that is what is under the dirt in most of North Texas. If the bed dries it can shift your foundation causing damage. Same goes for the sidewalks, driveway, alley and curb. So watering your lawn keeps your property and the clay bed under it wet and consistent. Repairing buckling concrete and foundation damage is quite expensive.
 
2011-08-19 12:05:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Hobodeluxe: DingleberryMoose: Texas is chock-full of something called playa lakes, especially on the plains. We have thousands of them. Some go dry almost annually, some don't. For someone not familiar with the specifics of the topography here, it might seem odd to call them lakes, but they're all we have except impounded reservoirs.

yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.

My buddy's lake at his ranch as dropped at least 7 feet. It's scary when you can touch the bottom at the center of the lake.


White River Lake (our rivers only run when it rains) has dropped so much they put in a new boat ramp. And it's a reservoir. Fortunately, it looks like we've been careful enough with the Ogalala to have drinking water for the forseeable future. Had to restrict agricultural watering to do it, though. Farmers have gone both to dryland and to more water-efficient irrigation.
 
2011-08-19 12:05:07 PM  

Kar98: Babboonrash: Ahhh, no Texas hate thread would be complete without KAR98

May it be noted that I came to Texas with the highest expectations. Rugged individualism! Guns! Open country! Almost free of government! Bootstraps! Well, what I found was a god-forsaken wasteland, infested with blue-nosed, un-educated, bible-thumping, priggish, uptight, preachy farking baptists who always have their nose in their neighbors' business, who are utterly consumed with FEAR of every damn thing there is. I've never met such scaredy bunch of yokels anywhere. Pray harder, or somebody might have gay sex, or a beer! Or set us up the bomb! Oh jeeeeebus save us, I think I saw a furriner in the gun store! fark'em and their entire state, possibly with the exceptions of Austin and Galveston, but there's beaches and bars elsewhere I guess, and thank FSM, I'll be done here by the end of the year.
My first impression of the state was downtown Marshall, Texas, and it reminded me of the town of Pripyat. I should have taken the hint and turned around right away, but no, I tried to make a go of it. Turns out if you didn't go to the same high schools and don't go to the same "churches", and don't speak with the same drawlsquawkwhine, and don't drive a farking pickup truck, you're shiat to them. So, again, fark'em.


Awwww, someone need a tissue?

You whine like a mule, you are still alive.

/I live around you, seen you a couple times. You are better than this.
 
2011-08-19 12:05:51 PM  

Kar98: Hobodeluxe: yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.

Martin Creek Lake is supposed to be 35 feet deep in normal years.


not where you took that pic from. even full you could walk across that thing. it looks to only be down 3-4 ft there. I was being generous saying 8-10 thinking it might get deeper round the bend there.
 
2011-08-19 12:08:18 PM  

Kar98: Hobodeluxe: yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.

Martin Creek Lake is supposed to be 35 feet deep in normal years.


Damn.
 
2011-08-19 12:08:58 PM  

DingleberryMoose: Ladies and gentlemen, LindLTaylor has done the impossible here today. Kar98, GnomePaladin, HotWingConspiracy, BurnShrike, KitFister and myself are all in agreement in a politics thread. We all apparently think you're a short-sighted, selfish prig. Stop wasting water on your lawn before there's not enough left to do the important things (like drinking it). Fresh water supplies for large areas are interconnected.


You people are full of shiat and have no understanding of what is going on here. The MUDs issue water bans when the water gets dangerously low. This is controlled by individual district, not the state, or even county as a whole. Once they issue a ban or restriction then things like irrigation, washing cars or any use of water outside of essential is restricted. Surplus water is not distributed to areas where water is low and using water in a district that has not issued a ban has no effect on other districts positively or negatively. So until my municipal utilities district feels it is important enough to say otherwise I can only assume that water is not at the levels where it needs to be rationed and neither do the other 100K or so people who live in this district. The only reason some of my neighbor's yards are dying is because they do not have the time to try to reverse it because I can assure you they are watering as much as they can, just not effectively. If not using water as we normally do somehow would alleviate the suffering of the farmers and ranchers who are suffering then surely I believe most if not all of us would do it.

So basically- none of you understand how water districts actually work and are under some impression that if we conserve more water here in a MUD that is not under shortages then it sill magically get transported to West Texas across some pipeline that does not exist. Leave it to the city managers to decide and don't expect the people who live in districts that are not under restrictions to act like the people who are because there are times when we are and they are not and I can assure you they did not conserve water or electricity when Hurricane Ike ravished this area and left them untouched because it was not helpful or necessary.

The list of districts under restrictions can be found here:

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/drinkingwater/trot/droughtw.html

That is all.
 
2011-08-19 12:11:13 PM  

DingleberryMoose: scottydoesntknow: Hobodeluxe: DingleberryMoose: Texas is chock-full of something called playa lakes, especially on the plains. We have thousands of them. Some go dry almost annually, some don't. For someone not familiar with the specifics of the topography here, it might seem odd to call them lakes, but they're all we have except impounded reservoirs.

yeah the one in the pic is barely 8-10 ft deep at the deepest judging by the picture.

My buddy's lake at his ranch as dropped at least 7 feet. It's scary when you can touch the bottom at the center of the lake.

White River Lake (our rivers only run when it rains) has dropped so much they put in a new boat ramp. And it's a reservoir. Fortunately, it looks like we've been careful enough with the Ogalala to have drinking water for the forseeable future. Had to restrict agricultural watering to do it, though. Farmers have gone both to dryland and to more water-efficient irrigation.


I don't doubt that there's a big shortage. We even had one here. Atlanta had to restrict water for a while a couple of years ago. And they have Alatoona and Lanier which are huge lakes.
 
2011-08-19 12:15:49 PM  
Let me repeat my comment and LindlTaylor's comment as these 2 statements sum it up completely,

My original comment:
Here in Dallas, it's important to keep your foundation wet during high temp dry periods. Most homes in the area are built over a clay bed as that is what is under the dirt in most of North Texas. If the bed dries it can shift your foundation causing damage. Same goes for the sidewalks, driveway, alley and curb. So watering your lawn keeps your property and the clay bed under it wet and consistent. Repairing buckling concrete and foundation damage is quite expensive.

From LindLTaylor
You people are full of shiat and have no understanding of what is going on here. The MUDs issue water bans when the water gets dangerously low. This is controlled by individual district, not the state, or even county as a whole. Once they issue a ban or restriction then things like irrigation, washing cars or any use of water outside of essential is restricted. Surplus water is not distributed to areas where water is low and using water in a district that has not issued a ban has no effect on other districts positively or negatively. So until my municipal utilities district feels it is important enough to say otherwise I can only assume that water is not at the levels where it needs to be rationed and neither do the other 100K or so people who live in this district. The only reason some of my neighbor's yards are dying is because they do not have the time to try to reverse it because I can assure you they are watering as much as they can, just not effectively. If not using water as we normally do somehow would alleviate the suffering of the farmers and ranchers who are suffering then surely I believe most if not all of us would do it.

So basically- none of you understand how water districts actually work and are under some impression that if we conserve more water here in a MUD that is not under shortages then it sill magically get transported to West Texas across some pipeline that does not exist. Leave it to the city managers to decide and don't expect the people who live in districts that are not under restrictions to act like the people who are because there are times when we are and they are not and I can assure you they did not conserve water or electricity when Hurricane Ike ravished this area and left them untouched because it was not helpful or necessary.

The list of districts under restrictions can be found here:

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/drinkingwater/trot/droughtw.html

Really nothing else to discuss.
 
2011-08-19 12:16:51 PM  
So to summarize, The solution for Texas is...

1) More tax cuts for the rich. Well Duh, that goes without sayin.
2) Pray more. God will fix it so we can keep doing it.
3) Frack more rocks and water table. Get oil and burn it, reduce available water. Profit.
4) Shoot stuff.
5) Buy more ammo and SUVs to spite them damn liberals.
6) Let everyone know that this is Obama's fault.
7) Produce more engineers by teaching about creationism.
8) Get rid of that damn EPA and their "rules".
 
2011-08-19 12:16:58 PM  

LindLTaylor:
Shut up dimwit. You have no idea what you are talking about. We are not even on voluntary water restrictions right now. One day when you can afford a house and become part of a municipal utilities district you might understand.


Ok, I'm a homeowner in TX with a house and a lawn, and I think you're an idiot too. If the stuff dies off completely, then we'll just seed it, and it will cost less than the water fight with this drought. We've already eliminated about 50% of our lawn with native landscaping and now just have enough to play some backyard sports with the kids, but even that isn't worth risking our water supply.

Too many selfish people like you around will doom us all though. Thanks.
 
2011-08-19 12:18:29 PM  

waterrockets: LindLTaylor:
Shut up dimwit. You have no idea what you are talking about. We are not even on voluntary water restrictions right now. One day when you can afford a house and become part of a municipal utilities district you might understand.

Ok, I'm a homeowner in TX with a house and a lawn, and I think you're an idiot too. If the stuff dies off completely, then we'll just seed it, and it will cost less than the water fight with this drought. We've already eliminated about 50% of our lawn with native landscaping and now just have enough to play some backyard sports with the kids, but even that isn't worth risking our water supply.

Too many selfish people like you around will doom us all though. Thanks.


If you are in North Texas you are gambling on foundation damage.
 
2011-08-19 12:19:20 PM  

LindLTaylor: DingleberryMoose: Ladies and gentlemen, LindLTaylor has done the impossible here today. Kar98, GnomePaladin, HotWingConspiracy, BurnShrike, KitFister and myself are all in agreement in a politics thread. We all apparently think you're a short-sighted, selfish prig. Stop wasting water on your lawn before there's not enough left to do the important things (like drinking it). Fresh water supplies for large areas are interconnected.

You people are full of shiat and have no understanding of what is going on here. The MUDs issue water bans when the water gets dangerously low. This is controlled by individual district, not the state, or even county as a whole. Once they issue a ban or restriction then things like irrigation, washing cars or any use of water outside of essential is restricted. Surplus water is not distributed to areas where water is low and using water in a district that has not issued a ban has no effect on other districts positively or negatively. So until my municipal utilities district feels it is important enough to say otherwise I can only assume that water is not at the levels where it needs to be rationed and neither do the other 100K or so people who live in this district. The only reason some of my neighbor's yards are dying is because they do not have the time to try to reverse it because I can assure you they are watering as much as they can, just not effectively. If not using water as we normally do somehow would alleviate the suffering of the farmers and ranchers who are suffering then surely I believe most if not all of us would do it.

So basically- none of you understand how water districts actually work and are under some impression that if we conserve more water here in a MUD that is not under shortages then it sill magically get transported to West Texas across some pipeline that does not exist. Leave it to the city managers to decide and don't expect the people who live in districts that are not under restrictions to act like the people who are because there are times when we are and they are not and I can assure you they did not conserve water or electricity when Hurricane Ike ravished this area and left them untouched because it was not helpful or necessary.

The list of districts under restrictions can be found here:

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/drinkingwater/trot/droughtw.html

That is all.


Here's the deal, oh blind one, you're using water for maintaining a superficial construct when there is a strong possibility that there will not be any more rain for a great amount of time. It doesn't matter if your MUD is doing hunky-dory right now, this drought is going to continue for several more months according to most climatology models.

Every ounce of water you and your superficial neighbors are using now for landscaping is one ounce of water less that you will have available for more important needs, such as drinking, later on.

/originally a ranch kid from West Texas, so don't give me that "you don't know what it's like" BS. My family is re-drilling three wells on their property as we speak to keep from losing everything.
 
2011-08-19 12:23:31 PM  

CaptSS: If you are in North Texas you are gambling on foundation damage.


So maintain your foundation sparingly. He's biatching about keeping his grass and bushes looking green.

And just because there are hundreds of little MUD fiefdoms controlling water rights all over Texas, doesn't mean you shouldn't conserve locally.
 
2011-08-19 12:23:45 PM  
Somebody from Texas the other day said that Perry is just a less cerebral version of Bush. That sounds about right.
 
2011-08-19 12:24:25 PM  

Hollie Maea: Overfiend: What does politics have to do with drought?

Because Dumbass McPerry thinks the correct response is to pray.


I admit he's a dumbass, but with a drought of that scale, what can be done?

Praying sure didn't make it rain less.

The drought would have happened even if a Democrat was in office. Just don't see the connection between Perry and the drought other than he happened to be the gov at the time.
 
2011-08-19 12:25:21 PM  

Mykeru: For some reason I read the headline as "The Great Doughnut of 2011", which would be pretty cool, IMHO.

[i181.photobucket.com image 600x403]


i did the same thing!
 
2011-08-19 12:25:54 PM  

LindLTaylor: DingleberryMoose: Ladies and gentlemen, LindLTaylor has done the impossible here today. Kar98, GnomePaladin, HotWingConspiracy, BurnShrike, KitFister and myself are all in agreement in a politics thread. We all apparently think you're a short-sighted, selfish prig. Stop wasting water on your lawn before there's not enough left to do the important things (like drinking it). Fresh water supplies for large areas are interconnected.

You people are full of shiat and have no understanding of what is going on here. The MUDs issue water bans when the water gets dangerously low. This is controlled by individual district, not the state, or even county as a whole. Once they issue a ban or restriction then things like irrigation, washing cars or any use of water outside of essential is restricted. Surplus water is not distributed to areas where water is low and using water in a district that has not issued a ban has no effect on other districts positively or negatively. So until my municipal utilities district feels it is important enough to say otherwise I can only assume that water is not at the levels where it needs to be rationed and neither do the other 100K or so people who live in this district. The only reason some of my neighbor's yards are dying is because they do not have the time to try to reverse it because I can assure you they are watering as much as they can, just not effectively. If not using water as we normally do somehow would alleviate the suffering of the farmers and ranchers who are suffering then surely I believe most if not all of us would do it.

So basically- none of you understand how water districts actually work and are under some impression that if we conserve more water here in a MUD that is not under shortages then it sill magically get transported to West Texas across some pipeline that does not exist. Leave it to the city managers to decide and don't expect the people who live in districts that are not under restrictions to act like the people who are because there are times when we are and they are not and I can assure you they did not conserve water or electricity when Hurricane Ike ravished this area and left them untouched because it was not helpful or necessary.

The list of districts under restrictions can be found here:

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/drinkingwater/trot/droughtw.html

That is all.


Wow, that was quite a rant for someone rationalizing away the need to do something before you're forced to do it by the government. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Take care of the world in which you live and lose the "we've got plenty of water now, who cares about the future?" attitude. Please. Our kids and their kids will appreciate it.
 
2011-08-19 12:29:50 PM  

CaptSS: Let me repeat my comment and LindlTaylor's comment as these 2 statements sum it up completely,

My original comment:
Here in Dallas, it's important to keep your foundation wet during high temp dry periods. Most homes in the area are built over a clay bed as that is what is under the dirt in most of North Texas. If the bed dries it can shift your foundation causing damage. Same goes for the sidewalks, driveway, alley and curb. So watering your lawn keeps your property and the clay bed under it wet and consistent. Repairing buckling concrete and foundation damage is quite expensive.

From LindLTaylor
You people are full of shiat and have no understanding of what is going on here. The MUDs issue water bans when the water gets dangerously low. This is controlled by individual district, not the state, or even county as a whole. Once they issue a ban or restriction then things like irrigation, washing cars or any use of water outside of essential is restricted. Surplus water is not distributed to areas where water is low and using water in a district that has not issued a ban has no effect on other districts positively or negatively. So until my municipal utilities district feels it is important enough to say otherwise I can only assume that water is not at the levels where it needs to be rationed and neither do the other 100K or so people who live in this district. The only reason some of my neighbor's yards are dying is because they do not have the time to try to reverse it because I can assure you they are watering as much as they can, just not effectively. If not using water as we normally do somehow would alleviate the suffering of the farmers and ranchers who are suffering then surely I believe most if not all of us would do it.

So basically- none of you understand how water districts actually work and are under some impression that if we conserve more water here in a MUD that is not under shortages then it sill magically get transported to West Texas across some pipeline that does not exist. Leave it to the city managers to decide and don't expect the people who live in districts that are not under restrictions to act like the people who are because there are times when we are and they are not and I can assure you they did not conserve water or electricity when Hurricane Ike ravished this area and left them untouched because it was not helpful or necessary.

The list of districts under restrictions can be found here:

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/drinkingwater/trot/droughtw.html

Really nothing else to discuss.


We're on clay soil here, too. Water around the foundation if you haven't had it stabilized. Conserve water otherwise. The clay bed 20 feet from your house won't affect your foundation much, just keep it moist near the house.
 
2011-08-19 12:30:07 PM  
He probably believes that he will be handed the keys to the HAARP when he is inaugurated.

I think he'll be disappointed, but they might give him a tour of Hangar 18 or Area 51 (above ground only) if he is persistant.
 
2011-08-19 12:30:47 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Maybe people didn't like you because you're mean and judgmental?


Nah. I used to be nice.
 
2011-08-19 12:33:43 PM  

brantgoose: He probably believes that he will be handed the keys to the HAARP when he is inaugurated.

I think he'll be disappointed, but they might give him a tour of Hangar 18 or Area 51 (above ground only) if he is persistant.


Meh, Hangar 18 is outside Abilene. I'm sure he's already had a tour as a former Air Force Captain.
 
2011-08-19 12:33:50 PM  

Hobodeluxe: there's nothing wrong with "prayer" in the sense of wishing for positive things for someone in your quiet thoughts. it's when you make a big public self-serving spectacle out of it and pretty much go against the rulebook you so wish to shove down everyone else's throat that I have a problem with it. Physician heal thyself.


"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."

Bonus point for you if you know who said that.
 
2011-08-19 12:34:32 PM  

Mykeru: For some reason I read the headline as "The Great Doughnut of 2011", which would be pretty cool, IMHO.

[i181.photobucket.com image 600x403]


Several of my classmates went to see Phish at that venue the weekend before finals. My understanding is that there was weed to be had.
 
2011-08-19 12:35:06 PM  

Overfiend: Hollie Maea: Overfiend: What does politics have to do with drought?

Because Dumbass McPerry thinks the correct response is to pray.

I admit he's a dumbass, but with a drought of that scale, what can be done?

Praying sure didn't make it rain less.

The drought would have happened even if a Democrat was in office. Just don't see the connection between Perry and the drought other than he happened to be the gov at the time.


It's the political hay he's trying to make from it that pisses people off. And lack of statewide preparation.
 
2011-08-19 12:36:04 PM  

LindLTaylor: Hurricane Ike ravished this area


Sexy!
 
2011-08-19 12:36:16 PM  

CaptSS: If you are in North Texas you are gambling on foundation damage.


I live in the Houston area and my house has shifted so much in the past few months. None of my doors were opening/shutting, drywall is cracked and floors creak like crazy now. My house is on pier and beam so I crawled under the house, and placed soaker-hoses around the foundation. I turn them on for about an hour a day and things have leveled back out.
 
2011-08-19 12:37:24 PM  

Overfiend: What does politics have to do with drought?


It's Obama's fault.

It's Obama's Katrina.

Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich.

They call that Bush Barack Obama Disorder Syndrome (BODS).

It's not unrelated to MODS (Michelle Obama Disorder Syndrome) which is an eating disorder which is characterized by an obsession with what the First Lady eats.
 
2011-08-19 12:38:46 PM  

Kar98: Lost Thought 00: Texas is a desert? You don't say! I'd never have guessed. It's always pictured as so green and lush in all the historical documents covering it's history.

Some desert...

[texchum.com image 640x480]

Parts of west Texas are deserty, but most of the state isn't.


Hmm... all that water in this drought. I suspect witchcraft. Someone needs to dispatch a team to investigate those swamps.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-08-19 12:39:30 PM  

Mirrorz: CaptSS: If you are in North Texas you are gambling on foundation damage.

I live in the Houston area and my house has shifted so much in the past few months. None of my doors were opening/shutting, drywall is cracked and floors creak like crazy now. My house is on pier and beam so I crawled under the house, and placed soaker-hoses around the foundation. I turn them on for about an hour a day and things have leveled back out.


Common sense solutions? In my Fark?
 
2011-08-19 12:40:48 PM  

brantgoose: "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward."

Bonus point for you if you know who said that.


L. Ron Hubbard?
 
2011-08-19 12:43:41 PM  

Kar98: APE992: I wouldn't call that a lake, more like a deep pond.

Lakes are usually deep enough to not go dry, even if that means barely any water.

There are no natural lakes in Texas.


Caddo. Possum Kingdom.
 
2011-08-19 12:44:36 PM  

Vodka Zombie: "Scotty!!! I need more prayer!"
"I'm on my knees givin' it all we got, captain!"
"More prayer, damnit!"
"We can't pray any harder, captain! Our rosaries can't take the strain! She'll come apart at the seams!"


You might enjoy reading Radio Free Albemuth by Philip K. Dick.

Then again, you might not. Semper debutandum est, Biggus Dickus.

The story is about a Nixonian-type President who is a tyrant and a Commie mole. But a satellite in orbit (which comes from a world where Columbus didn't discover America or something, and which is consequently under the control of the Unreconstructed Roman Catholic Church) keeps broadcasting to the brains of people like the hero, who thus knows that the world is a lie.

Philip K. Dick seems to have actually believed that Nixon was a Commie mole. He was an odd hybrid of California Liberal and Orange Country Conservative. Consequently he was paranoid about Nixon's paranoia, but from the Left and the Right at the same time. No wonder he had a psychotic episode in which he believed that it was the First Century A.D. (but the Devil blinds us to reality) and that the Christians were being persecuted.

Sure, it sounds crazy if you put it that way. But is it really crazier than what passes for sanity, for example, the War on Christmas or the War on Terror?

Not really. But keep your damn sparks of sanity to yourself or they'll lock you up.
 
2011-08-19 12:44:44 PM  
For all the concern trolls out there, this is a matter of Texas politics because Rick Perry and the uber-right Texas Lege and local municipalities have slashed emergency preparedness and infrastructure funds, and also cut their budgets for fire and rescue departments across the state while increasing budgets for "security" (aka state troopers, municipal police, and county sheriff's) departments.

They also accepted $19 million in Federal assistance in combating the wildfires, but then bad-mouthed Obama for not declaring the state a Federal Disaster area after Perry's solution to the drought was to declare a "weekend of prayer".
 
2011-08-19 12:46:38 PM  

the_immoral_minority: A Texas Rain Gauge

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 198x126]



We use similar rain gauges in the East. If you can throw them across the river, it is dry. If you can't throw them more than half way, it is wet. If you are up to your hips in water, it's very wet. Hope you have more bottled soft drinks and water, because ironically, when there's water, water, every where, there's nary a drop to drink. At least that's what some Ancient Mariner told me at my brother's wedding.
 
Ant [TotalFark]
2011-08-19 12:49:01 PM  

fatandolder: The people of Texas praying no matter for what, hurts you all how?


It hurts my brain to see so many credulous people in one place to grovel before some invisible divine patriarch, all the while believing that they're actually helping.
 
2011-08-19 12:50:16 PM  
Oh, and that Rick Perry is stumping as hard as he can on climate change denial so he can get all the big oil, coal, and chemical company money that he possibly can for his campaign. He and the State have actively tried to sue the EPA to prevent their enforcement of clean air and water standards on Texas coal and oil plants.

But sure, droughts aren't political.
 
2011-08-19 12:50:49 PM  

LindLTaylor:

So basically- none of you understand how water districts actually work and are under some impression that if we conserve more water here in a MUD that is not under shortages then it sill magically get transported to West Texas across some pipeline that does not exist. Leave it to the city managers to decide and don't expect the people who live in districts that are not under restrictions to act like the people who are because there are times when we are and they are not and I can assure you they did not conserve water or electricity when Hurricane Ike ravished this area and left them untouched because it was not helpful or necessary.

The list of districts under restrictions can be found here:

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/drinkingwater/trot/droughtw.html

That is all.



As a fellow Texan I have to say that you're not doing us any favors by showing just how selfish, entitled, irresponsible, and abrasive some Texans can be. Luckily for me I'm not a Texan by birth, nor will I be one for much longer. 15 years in this sh!ath0le is more than enough for me, and I live on the island that is Austin.

Regardless of where you live, as someone else recently mentioned, the water supply is still connected regardless of who pumps it into your house. If it doesn't rain across the whole state then water is in short supply everywhere. Why don't you understand that? Just because your local MUD hasn't issued any restrictions doesn't mean conservation isn't necessary.

Do you really need a MUD to tell you that this (new window) is a serious problem? I would think you're smart enough to know that the linked image is an alarming scenario that might not come to an end until winter or spring. This might become a long term pattern that could force long term measures.

To your point above about everyone's ignorance on MUDs...I'm sure you also know that a MUD is basically a glorified HOA with the power to provide utility service. I wouldn't trust them as much as I trust an HOA, because they can simply run the wells dry without any repercussions to them. They are only accountable locally and are not regulated by the public utility commission or anyone else. They have the authority to charge whatever is needed locally, and that includes jacking your rates if everyone uses up the available supply of water. They will then truck in whatever is needed while bending you over to pay for it. If they don't truck it in they'll drill the wells deeper and raise your taxes because they have the authority to do that, and they don't need anyone's permission.

To your concern about your landscaping you might want to educate yourself on xeriscaping (new window). Some areas have rebates for replacing your landscaping, but I doubt Houston and surrounding areas do.

Finally, out here in Central Texas the lake that supplies most of Austin's water is down to 46% of its capacity (http://www.lcra.org/water/conditions/river_report.html copy/pasta since fark keeps rejecting the link). The record for the lowest lake level in history is not too far off if we stay in a drought.

Right now we are on track to beat a lot of records. We will surpass the record of # of days over 100 degrees by the middle of next week. The previous record was 69 days set in 1925. We have also set a new record of 27 consecutive days over 100 degrees.
 
2011-08-19 12:51:34 PM  
texchum.com

The bottom third of this picture is by Claude Monet.

The top two thirds is from some horror movie about inbred loonies who live in a swamp.

Therein lies the charm and beauty of Texas.

Gotta love it!
 
2011-08-19 12:52:28 PM  

Eddie_Dean_NY: For all the concern trolls out there, this is a matter of Texas politics because Rick Perry and the uber-right Texas Lege and local municipalities have slashed emergency preparedness and infrastructure funds, and also cut their budgets for fire and rescue departments across the state while increasing budgets for "security" (aka state troopers, municipal police, and county sheriff's) departments.

They also accepted $19 million in Federal assistance in combating the wildfires, but then bad-mouthed Obama for not declaring the state a Federal Disaster area after Perry's solution to the drought was to declare a "weekend of prayer".


The city where I live bought into the "prisons for economic development" movement so deeply the city purchased a prison, which just sold for $3M less than the city owed on it. Services were slashed to make the payments.
 
2011-08-19 12:53:58 PM  

vonzales: Kar98: APE992: I wouldn't call that a lake, more like a deep pond.

Lakes are usually deep enough to not go dry, even if that means barely any water.

There are no natural lakes in Texas.

Caddo. Possum Kingdom.


Caddo Lake was formed by the Great Logjam of the Red River, and PK is man-made reservoir from the late 1930s, early 1940s.
 
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