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(KTVB)   Not News: guy burns his trash to avoid paying for garbage pickup Fark: sets neighborhood on fire, is now liable for all suppression costs   (ktvb.com) divider line 48
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2011-08-17 12:52:01 PM
Garbage pickup $20 per month = $240 per year, $2400 per decade
Burn Barrel in your backyard = 2 helicopters, 3 aircraft, over a dozen engines, at least two hand crews, This guys could have paid for garbage pickup for a hundred years.
 
2011-08-17 12:53:18 PM
Grandpa?
 
2011-08-17 01:20:16 PM
Bootstrappy Tea Party member?
 
2011-08-17 01:48:37 PM
BURN!
 
2011-08-17 01:49:41 PM
Subby: "Not News: guy burns his trash to avoid paying for garbage pickup Fark: sets neighborhood on fire, is now liable for all suppression costs"

TFA: "Fire agencies have not confirmed what started the fire, but there have been no reports of lightning in the area. Those living in the area believe the fire started when someone was burning trash in a barrel and the burn got out of control."

Oh, I get it. We can just make up headlines that bear almost no relation to the article to get a green these days. Cool, that'll make it easier!
 
2011-08-17 01:56:29 PM

gweilo8888: Oh, I get it. We can just make up headlines that bear almost no relation to the article to get a green these days. Cool, that'll make it easier!


This! I actually read the whole article because I was wanting the payoff. Then it never happened.
 
2011-08-17 01:56:40 PM
In his defense, "garbage pickup Fark" sounds expensive, whatever that is.

Periods, on the other hand, are still cheap.
 
2011-08-17 01:58:20 PM

weiserfireman: Garbage pickup $20 per month = $240 per year, $2400 per decade
Burn Barrel in your backyard = 2 helicopters, 3 aircraft, over a dozen engines, at least two hand crews, This guys could have paid for garbage pickup for a hundred years.


You really think a guy who burns trash in his yard is going to pay for all this?
 
2011-08-17 02:01:17 PM
Headline appears to assume facts not in evidence.
 
2011-08-17 02:03:34 PM
Yes, in a way, if someone started the fire by burning trash, then they can be held liable and forced to pay for all the costs to put the fire out. That may mean that he will have his land taken and sold to pay for the cleanup if he isn't insured. He could be charged with negligent arson and that will also send him to prison.
 
2011-08-17 02:05:23 PM
Hey subby, burning trash in barrels is a common occurance in sparsely populated areas.
 
2011-08-17 02:05:27 PM
What an idiot. He could have burned it inside his house, lit the place up and claimed double damages on his fire insurance. Jesus.
 
2011-08-17 02:05:37 PM

gweilo8888: Oh, I get it. We can just make up headlines that bear almost no relation to the article to get a green these days. Cool, that'll make it easier!


Start your engines! I expect some good greens by Friday from you.
 
2011-08-17 02:05:54 PM

protectyourlimbs: weiserfireman: Garbage pickup $20 per month = $240 per year, $2400 per decade
Burn Barrel in your backyard = 2 helicopters, 3 aircraft, over a dozen engines, at least two hand crews, This guys could have paid for garbage pickup for a hundred years.

You really think a guy who burns trash in his yard is going to pay for all this?


If anything, the state will have a judgment lien placed on his property and get at least some of it back when he's forced to sell in bankruptcy proceedings.
 
2011-08-17 02:06:22 PM
The area surrounding Weiser is pretty damn rural. IOW, the only "trash pickup" is throwing your trash in the back of your pickup and hauling it to the dump.

Burning trash in a barrel in that area is standard practice. Not illegal.
 
2011-08-17 02:07:47 PM
Wow I don't even have this option. I have to pay for garbage pickup whether I use it or not...
 
2011-08-17 02:08:54 PM

gweilo8888: Oh, I get it. We can just make up headlines that bear almost no relation to the article to get a green these days. Cool, that'll make it easier!


These days? Welcome to Fark.
 
2011-08-17 02:10:31 PM

Robo Beat: protectyourlimbs: weiserfireman: Garbage pickup $20 per month = $240 per year, $2400 per decade
Burn Barrel in your backyard = 2 helicopters, 3 aircraft, over a dozen engines, at least two hand crews, This guys could have paid for garbage pickup for a hundred years.

You really think a guy who burns trash in his yard is going to pay for all this?

If anything, the state will have a judgment lien placed on his property and get at least some of it back when he's forced to sell in bankruptcy proceedings.



I was visiting California a few years back when the wind kicked up, causing sparks from a power transmission line that had not been properly maintained in decades. The sparks caused a massive brush fire that took days to extinguish, taking out numerous structures.

You would think that the state would have held the power company liable, but no, they called it an "act of god".
 
2011-08-17 02:12:03 PM
How does this happen? It's like a pedestrian being hit by a car. It's *way* down the list of difficult tasks.

If you want to burn stuff, keep it away from stuff you don't want to burn.
 
2011-08-17 02:18:07 PM

gweilo8888: Subby: "Not News: guy burns his trash to avoid paying for garbage pickup Fark: sets neighborhood on fire, is now liable for all suppression costs"

TFA: "Fire agencies have not confirmed what started the fire, but there have been no reports of lightning in the area. Those living in the area believe the fire started when someone was burning trash in a barrel and the burn got out of control."

Oh, I get it. We can just make up headlines that bear almost no relation to the article to get a green these days. Cool, that'll make it easier!


I was shocked to find out that the article even mentioned fire
 
2011-08-17 02:19:50 PM
Worst headline EVAR. Subtard/Mod FAIL combo platter in effect.

I now have blue balls of the mind after that lack of payoff.
 
2011-08-17 02:25:51 PM
I am the submitter.

The actual official cause of the fire was the individual burning trash. The news story was written before the "official cause". I was one of the guys fighting the fire. The homeowner told us "If I had one more length of garden hose, it wouldn't have gotten away from me". Burning garbage in this area used to be common, but there has been a rural garbage pickup service operating for more than 20 years.

It is illegal in the State of Idaho to burn household trash. Has been for a long time.
 
2011-08-17 02:26:36 PM
Wildfire breaks out near Weiser

unavailable for comment
www.courtsidepost.com
 
2011-08-17 02:29:59 PM

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Bootstrappy Tea Party member?


Probably, in my area they have been protesting garbage collection as socialist, when some of the areas here looked at franchising garbage collection.
 
2011-08-17 02:34:17 PM
Subby loses. TFA says that fire officials don't know what started the (very common sagebrush) fire, but that people who live in the area believe it was started by someone burning trash in a barrel. It said noting about anyone being liable for suppression costs.
 
2011-08-17 02:38:16 PM

weiserfireman: I am the submitter.

The actual official cause of the fire was the individual burning trash. The news story was written before the "official cause". I was one of the guys fighting the fire. The homeowner told us "If I had one more length of garden hose, it wouldn't have gotten away from me". Burning garbage in this area used to be common, but there has been a rural garbage pickup service operating for more than 20 years.

It is illegal in the State of Idaho to burn household trash. Has been for a long time.


behold the power of fark = more news than the news

i also felt slighted by the headline/article issue, but thanks for clearing it up. Also, even though I don't live in the area, thanks for doing a tough job.
 
2011-08-17 02:40:04 PM
blogs.suntimes.com

why burn it when you can hump it?
 
2011-08-17 02:43:37 PM

weiserfireman: I am the submitter.

The actual official cause of the fire was the individual burning trash. The news story was written before the "official cause". I was one of the guys fighting the fire. The homeowner told us "If I had one more length of garden hose, it wouldn't have gotten away from me". Burning garbage in this area used to be common, but there has been a rural garbage pickup service operating for more than 20 years.

It is illegal in the State of Idaho to burn household trash. Has been for a long time.


Ok - thanks!! So is it true that the cost of the firefighting will be passed on to him? I fully agree that it should.

Ahhhhh...no more blue balls of the mind!
 
2011-08-17 02:44:53 PM
You know who else was burning trash which eventually led to his downfall?

orwellsfuture.com

This guy!

/Bad subby leading us on!
//Bad!
 
2011-08-17 02:47:56 PM
I burn my trash, but I have no neighbors and I don't do it on dry, windy days or when a burn order (which is rare in Appalachia) is in effect. Technically you are not supposed to do it between May and October during certain hours, but that isn't enforced (that includes bonfires as well)

I have to sort out metal and glass (and other non-burnables) and either take them to the dump, or wait for the township to take them the first Saturday of the month. I usually wait, they will only take two (but I think they will take three if they like you) garbage bags, but I never have more then that of non-burnables anyway.

Organics (i.e. garbage) gets tossed in the "compost pile"...also known as the high weeds near the burn barrel. Its cheaper then a garbage disposal. If I ever get my ass in gear I would make a real compost pile for the garden (but right now I just grab hog manure from the parents farm)

/country living!
 
2011-08-17 02:50:30 PM

Burr: but I have no neighbors


I guess I should say I have no neighbors that I can see, I think the closest one is 3/4 mile away, over hills and through trees.

/likes his privacy
 
2011-08-17 02:54:26 PM
What a flamer!
 
2011-08-17 02:57:15 PM

Optimus Primate: Ok - thanks!! So is it true that the cost of the firefighting will be passed on to him? I fully agree that it should.


If it had just been a local fire that was controlled with local assets, there probably wouldn't be a cost recovery effort.

But in this case, they had to call in Federal Resources. Helicopters and Air Tankers are expensive. Forest Service and BLM also provided engines and hand crews. The Feds are very serious about cost recovery in situations like this. No matter what the locals want to do, they will go after this guy.
 
2011-08-17 02:58:10 PM
Dixie_Wrecked: What a flamer!

I misread that as "gay burns trash..."

/Story is gay anyway
 
2011-08-17 03:11:55 PM

weiserfireman: No matter what the locals want to do, they will go after this guy.


Looking at your fark handle, I am wondering if you have information that was not in the article.
 
2011-08-17 03:13:12 PM

Devil's Playground: weiserfireman: No matter what the locals want to do, they will go after this guy.

Looking at your fark handle, I am wondering if you have information that was not in the article.


you could say that. I was on scene until 1am
 
2011-08-17 03:16:39 PM
Silly me, I submit links with headlines that actually accurately reflect the story's content. Boy, do I feel dumb now. I could have been making up troll-baiting headlines all this time.

Yeah, I know submitter already cleared this up, but still...
 
2011-08-17 03:22:23 PM
Wheezer in Weiser is no wiser.
 
2011-08-17 03:28:47 PM

MrBentor: Yes, in a way, if someone started the fire by burning trash, then they can be held liable and forced to pay for all the costs to put the fire out. That may mean that he will have his land taken and sold to pay for the cleanup if he isn't insured. He could be charged with negligent arson and that will also send him to prison.


HE?
why isnt it equally possible that it was SHE? or IT?

and yah, if only there some kind of fire extinguisher or hose which could ahve been used to put out a fire. or some kind of way to cut back scrub near your property so that you can avoid spreading fires.

nah, that would be too easy
 
2011-08-17 03:30:54 PM
wait, what percentage of what he was burning could have been composted in the forst place? sure you are not supposed to compost protein, but you can still toss it on the compost heap. so he would be left with plastic trash to burn, which would have been a lot less.

so yah, we are back to he, cause we know that men burn shiat and are dumbasses.
 
2011-08-17 03:32:20 PM

VictorOfBorge: Wheezer in Weiser is no wiser.


I've always said that no one gets wiser in Weiser (weezer)
 
2011-08-17 03:34:21 PM

weiserfireman: I am the submitter.

The actual official cause of the fire was the individual burning trash. The news story was written before the "official cause". I was one of the guys fighting the fire. The homeowner told us "If I had one more length of garden hose, it wouldn't have gotten away from me". Burning garbage in this area used to be common, but there has been a rural garbage pickup service operating for more than 20 years.

It is illegal in the State of Idaho to burn household trash. Has been for a long time.


Woohoo, clarification!

Still betting he never pays.
 
2011-08-17 03:34:41 PM

Burr: Organics (i.e. garbage) gets tossed in the "compost pile"...also known as the high weeds near the burn barrel. Its cheaper then a garbage disposal. If I ever get my ass in gear I would make a real compost pile for the garden (but right now I just grab hog manure from the parents farm)


my hero

but yah, my guess is this farktard was burning paper and it was windy and DRY AS shiat, so this burning embers blew away and got out of control.

the fix is easy if he loses he his house and land to pay for his crime, he wont be there to do it again. lol.
 
2011-08-17 03:58:22 PM

namatad: but yah, my guess is this farktard was burning paper and it was windy and DRY AS shiat, so this burning embers blew away and got out of control.


My grandfather had a senile moment a few years ago. He was burning brush near a cornfield and the wind picked up and spread embers into the dead, dry underbrush of the field. Next thing you know the fire is spreading out of control, we were trying to contain it with shovels until the fire department arrived (yeah, out in the middle of a cornfield with shovels during a fire....brillant!), of course this was after working for 5 hours bailing straw in 90 degree heat.

Luckily, it didn't spread to other fields, and it was a fairly small field, we only lost about 1/3 of it.(maybe an acre or so, less then we lose to deer a year)
 
2011-08-17 04:50:55 PM

Burr: namatad: but yah, my guess is this farktard was burning paper and it was windy and DRY AS shiat, so this burning embers blew away and got out of control.

My grandfather had a senile moment a few years ago. He was burning brush near a cornfield and the wind picked up and spread embers into the dead, dry underbrush of the field. Next thing you know the fire is spreading out of control, we were trying to contain it with shovels until the fire department arrived (yeah, out in the middle of a cornfield with shovels during a fire....brillant!), of course this was after working for 5 hours bailing straw in 90 degree heat.

Luckily, it didn't spread to other fields, and it was a fairly small field, we only lost about 1/3 of it.(maybe an acre or so, less then we lose to deer a year)


it is a FUNNY problem.
us, city folk, think you country folk are nuts. but, it is logical.
the other options require more WORK.
cart the brush, shred the brush, mulch/compost the chips.
OR, pile it up and burn it!

as soon as it gets to expensive to use synthetic fertilizers, people will go back to mulch and compost.
as soon as it gets to expensive to buy electricity, people will burn that shiat for electricity and heat or digest it for methane.

all about the costs
 
2011-08-17 04:52:19 PM

bukketmaster: In his defense, "garbage pickup Fark" sounds expensive, whatever that is.

Periods, on the other hand, are still cheap.


You must be a man.
 
2011-08-17 09:22:00 PM
weiserfireman 2011-08-17 12:52:01 PM Garbage pickup $20 per month = $240 per year, $2400 per decade Burn Barrel in your backyard = 2 helicopters, 3 aircraft, over a dozen engines, at least two hand crews, This guys could have paid for garbage pickup for a hundred years.
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$20 per month?! I want your garbage company because that's amazingly cheap.

/It's like $45-50/month here.
//When I move out I'm burning my trash. I ain't paying that shiat!
 
2011-08-17 09:58:19 PM

mekkab: gweilo8888: Oh, I get it. We can just make up headlines that bear almost no relation to the article to get a green these days. Cool, that'll make it easier!

Start your engines! I expect some good greens by Friday from you.


I'd better get my bribe to Drew... err... I mean TF dues paid up then, eh? ;-)
 
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