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2011-08-17 12:42:41 AM
Is it really hoarding, if the thing being hoarded is free to leave anytime it wishes?
 
2011-08-17 12:55:02 AM
Seven HUNDRED?
 
2011-08-17 01:04:52 AM

Sgygus: Seven HUNDRED?


This.
 
2011-08-17 01:06:39 AM
A High Springs couple accused of hoarding; 692 cats have been arrested.
 
2011-08-17 01:07:54 AM
There's a crazy cat lady in California who has 700 cats. However, she's arguably not hoarding.

Argument? She spends $45,000 per MONTH on the care and feeding of her cats. These dorks didn't spend that in a year.
 
2011-08-17 01:10:08 AM
Now that's a lot of pussy....
 
2011-08-17 01:11:35 AM
Do they wholesale to Korean restaurants?
 
2011-08-17 01:12:16 AM
I guess they're unaware that they can't hug every cat (new window).
 
2011-08-17 01:20:27 AM
Jesus farking christ how could they breathe when they went into the warehouse?
 
2011-08-17 01:23:45 AM

Gyrfalcon: There's a crazy cat lady in California who has 700 cats. However, she's arguably not hoarding.

Argument? She spends $45,000 per MONTH on the care and feeding of her cats. These dorks didn't spend that in a year.


How does a crazy cat lady come up with 45K a month? Why isn't that 45K a month going to, say, clean water efforts in Africa?

/People>Pets. Always.
 
2011-08-17 01:27:24 AM
shiat. I must have ~1000 of them just in my internet cache.
 
2011-08-17 01:32:32 AM
There was a Mexican lady in our neighborhood that left 70 cats in her apartment when she was evicted.

/neighbors remember her going around door to door selling homemade tamales

// there were 20 more cats locked in a storage unit behind the apartment... and a cleaver and butcher block.

///csb?
virgule virgule virgule
 
2011-08-17 01:34:34 AM
But she did admit that they may have gone overboard and acquired too many cats.

The first step is to admit you have a problem.
The second step is you get booked and finger printed.
 
2011-08-17 01:38:22 AM
Wanted for questioning:

assets0.ordienetworks.com

/I'm getting emotional again...
 
2011-08-17 01:39:14 AM
FTFA (just under the headline): "Humane Society officials call it one of the largest cat hoarding cases in U.S. history"

Has someone actually hoarded MORE than 700 cats? Don't get me wrong, I'm a cat person, but I'm happy with two. 700+ is just so absolutely batshiat insane that I can't even imagine keeping that many, even in a warehouse like the one mentioned in the article.
 
2011-08-17 01:40:16 AM
Caturday already?
 
2011-08-17 01:41:00 AM

video man: Gyrfalcon: There's a crazy cat lady in California who has 700 cats. However, she's arguably not hoarding.

Argument? She spends $45,000 per MONTH on the care and feeding of her cats. These dorks didn't spend that in a year.

How does a crazy cat lady come up with 45K a month? Why isn't that 45K a month going to, say, clean water efforts in Africa?

/People>Pets. Always.


Clearly you've not spent long on Fark. Cats > people. Read any single thread in which people are involved, then compare to any single thread with cats involved. Jot down derogatory comments, total to positive comments total, subtract the obvious trolls from each category, and then draw up ratios for each thread. I promise you'll be surprised. I could write up an algorithm to automate it of you would like.
 
2011-08-17 01:41:46 AM
I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?
 
2011-08-17 01:43:42 AM
Jesus, I hate stories like this.
 
2011-08-17 01:44:16 AM
Also (DERP), on topic: Folks down the street got busted for having 90+ underfed cats a couple years back. They seemed like they meant well initially, but just let it get out of hand. The video of the cats on the news was heartbreaking. All of them had to be euthanized :(
 
2011-08-17 01:45:34 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Go with SPCA they usually are rather normal with their rules
 
2011-08-17 01:49:31 AM
On the plus side to my story... we did have an out-of-control stray problem in the neighborhood before she moved in, which seemed to mysteriously go away...
 
2011-08-17 01:51:02 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


That is batshiat insane.
 
2011-08-17 01:53:27 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Yes.

Get a cat from the county animal shelter or the SPCA. They are happy to find a home for the animals, and usually the price to adopt is pretty reasonable and they can give you a voucher for spay/neuter. Or you can find someone who is giving away kittens for free. Craigslist has been cracking down on these lately but you can still find them. Right now at the end of summer the animal shelters will be chock full of adoptable kittens.

Personally I would not adopt a pet under those conditions. That seems crazy restrictive and I'd prefer regular vet care to whatever they are into.

Some animal rescues go a little overboard. I'd pass on these guys. Some rescues seem like they put impossible restrictions on the adoptions because they are actually hoarders and don't want to actually adopt anything.

Good luck!
 
2011-08-17 01:55:23 AM
What a crappy article.

They left out some things. See http://www.havenacres.org/

Haven Acres Cat Sanctuary is a private, no kill animal shelter owned and operated by Steve and Pennie Lefkowitz.
Located on 8 acres of rural, agricultural land in Alachua County, FL on the outskirts of the city of High Springs, Steve and Pennie share their home with 200 cats, a dog, several horses, and some roosters.
Concerned about the high euthanasia rate at Animal Services, Steve and Pennie decided to incorporate and became Haven Acres Cat Sanctuary, Inc. In 2003 and were granted 501(c)(3) non-profit status in 2005. Since its inception, no cat that has needed help has been turned away.
 
2011-08-17 01:57:22 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Humane Society or SPCA. There is neeeever a shortage of dogs or cats to go to a good home. Don't be taken in by soulful eyes unless you are comfortable with the *entire* package.

*glances down thread* Er. Nevermind. Already been said. :)

I am about to (hopefully) get my very first pet for my family. I have had pets growing up, but they were ultimately my parents' responsibility if I farked up. I'm the parent now. I'm a little nervous but excited. :)
 
2011-08-17 01:58:13 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Don't forget to give them a key and your bank account number.
 
2011-08-17 01:59:11 AM
CSB time; just about an hour ago on the way home from the bar I found a very thin and terrified stray, maybe a couple of months old. It was mewing at me, almost as if asking for help, while still being afraid to draw near me... I sidled past her and jogged a half a block to the Circle-K and bought a can of sardines, and backtracked to it. I sat down beside it and slowly fed it until it was eating out of my hand... my hope had been to either scruff it or wrap it in my shirt and get it home to take care of it and get it shots... once it'd finished, I accidentally startled it, so I ran back to the store to grab some more sardines and some wet catfood. Unfortunately, while I was in there, the store was held up and I got stuck in there until the situation was over with. When I got out, I had lots of cat-related relief effort stuff, but the cat had since wandered off. I looked for it for a bit, but it was long gone and it was too dark to really search the area. I am happy that I fed at at least for the night, and hope I run into it again in the coming days so I can make an effort at snagging it and helping it. If not, well, at least I tried.

/allergic to cats, horribly
//let's see that stop me
///virgule
 
2011-08-17 02:00:54 AM
Oh and Thank you, Purina for your most generous food
donation of 2220 lbs of dry cat food March 25, 2011 to Haven Acres Cat Sanctuary

www.havenacres.org (new window)

crappy article bent your perspective?
 
2011-08-17 02:04:09 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Our newest addition was adopted from our local vet's office. A woman who had been their customer had passed away and they rounded up the mother & her kittens from her barn. $20 adoption fee (which acted as a deposit on the kitten's spay), and they've known her for her whole life. So look to local vets if you don't have a reputable shelter or SPCA (and the nuts you're dealing with do not sound reputable).

As far as the story goes, my (non-custodial) mother had 36 cats when I was a kid. Not surprisingly, her home was declared condemned. I can't imagine how anyone could have more than a few, let alone 700.
 
2011-08-17 02:05:45 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


That is insane.
And probably illegal too.

Get a yourself a nice kitteh from a shelter that doesn't have major "control issues". Too bad you're not from around here. Our local Humane society is so full, they are giving cats away and letting people "priceline" the dogs.
 
2011-08-17 02:06:47 AM

awalkingecho: once it'd finished, I accidentally startled it, so I ran back to the store to grab some more sardines and some wet catfood. Unfortunately, while I was in there, the store was held up and I got stuck in there until the situation was over with.


You are a good person. But very strange. In a good way.
 
2011-08-17 02:09:56 AM

newton: crappy article bent your perspective?


The article didn't affect me too much one way or another, except that line at the end where 100 cats had to be put down. While I thought that was pretty decent odds (sometimes they have to put ALL the animals down), I'd like to see information that explains why so many cats were basically unadoptable (by whomever's assessment).
 
2011-08-17 02:11:53 AM

marxychick1: As far as the story goes, my (non-custodial) mother had 36 cats when I was a kid. Not surprisingly, her home was declared condemned. I can't imagine how anyone could have more than a few, let alone 700.


Mine had 5 cats, 2 dogs (large), and some fish. What it taught me is that only neurotic clean freaks should own more than 2 animals. Luckily for me, my mother is a neurotic clean freak.

/Is vacuuming twice a day really that necessary, ma? Seriously? :\
 
2011-08-17 02:13:07 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Yes. I've been adopted by 5 cats, 4 from shelters (and one from off the street). The most one shelter asked of us was to never let someone else adopt the cat without the shelter's permission, and not to declaw them (not that I would have, anyway).
/spay and neuter your kittehs, people
 
2011-08-17 02:13:54 AM
Thanks for the replies! Going to two SPCA locations Friday.
 
2011-08-17 02:16:33 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: Thanks for the replies! Going to two SPCA locations Friday.


Good for you. A last word of advice if you're a sucker for a fuzzy face like myself; sleep on it. At my local shelter, they'll allow you to be listed as a person of interest, so you can go home and mull your choices over.

Which is damn good, cause we went in looking for a cat that was affectionate. I expected a 5% result. More like 75%. Those cats want some serious farkin' loving.
 
2011-08-17 02:16:51 AM

awalkingecho: CSB time; just about an hour ago on the way home from the bar I found a very thin and terrified stray, maybe a couple of months old. It was mewing at me, almost as if asking for help, while still being afraid to draw near me... I sidled past her and jogged a half a block to the Circle-K and bought a can of sardines, and backtracked to it. I sat down beside it and slowly fed it until it was eating out of my hand... my hope had been to either scruff it or wrap it in my shirt and get it home to take care of it and get it shots... once it'd finished, I accidentally startled it, so I ran back to the store to grab some more sardines and some wet catfood. Unfortunately, while I was in there, the store was held up and I got stuck in there until the situation was over with. When I got out, I had lots of cat-related relief effort stuff, but the cat had since wandered off. I looked for it for a bit, but it was long gone and it was too dark to really search the area. I am happy that I fed at at least for the night, and hope I run into it again in the coming days so I can make an effort at snagging it and helping it. If not, well, at least I tried.

/allergic to cats, horribly
//let's see that stop me
///virgule


Wait. What?

Strange things are amiss at the Circle-K, Ted.
 
2011-08-17 02:18:39 AM

LawyersRock: awalkingecho: CSB time; just about an hour ago on the way home from the bar I found a very thin and terrified stray, maybe a couple of months old. It was mewing at me, almost as if asking for help, while still being afraid to draw near me... I sidled past her and jogged a half a block to the Circle-K and bought a can of sardines, and backtracked to it. I sat down beside it and slowly fed it until it was eating out of my hand... my hope had been to either scruff it or wrap it in my shirt and get it home to take care of it and get it shots... once it'd finished, I accidentally startled it, so I ran back to the store to grab some more sardines and some wet catfood. Unfortunately, while I was in there, the store was held up and I got stuck in there until the situation was over with. When I got out, I had lots of cat-related relief effort stuff, but the cat had since wandered off. I looked for it for a bit, but it was long gone and it was too dark to really search the area. I am happy that I fed at at least for the night, and hope I run into it again in the coming days so I can make an effort at snagging it and helping it. If not, well, at least I tried.

/allergic to cats, horribly
//let's see that stop me
///virgule

Wait. What?

Strange things are amissafoot at the Circle-K, Ted.


/fixed
 
2011-08-17 02:25:21 AM

LawyersRock:

Wait. What?

Strange things are amiss at the Circle-K, Ted.


Weird timing; as I was in line to check out the stuff I was buying for the cat, a guy walked in and demanded the clerk empty the register... for all of like the 38 dollars or whatever that was in it. But I certainly wasn't going to move so I waited it out patiently; I had nothing on me of value since I keep cards on me, only (Thanks, Daytona Beach!) and after the situation was over, I helped with the police reports, paid for the items, and went out but the cat was long gone. I hope I run into it again some night. I've got no other use for Friskees. I can eat the sardines, though.
 
2011-08-17 02:32:23 AM

Gyrfalcon: There's a crazy cat lady in California who has 700 cats. However, she's arguably not hoarding.

Argument? She spends $45,000 per MONTH on the care and feeding of her cats. These dorks didn't spend that in a year.


She's hoarding. She just has the money to take care of them. It's still hoarding.
 
2011-08-17 02:34:38 AM
My cat is demanding I pay attention to him so I'm getting a kick, HE KNOWS when I'm reading about other cats some how.... Also this is sad. Poor kitties, they deserved better.
 
2011-08-17 02:38:14 AM

ecor1: Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?

Yes.

Get a cat from the county animal shelter or the SPCA. They are happy to find a home for the animals, and usually the price to adopt is pretty reasonable and they can give you a voucher for spay/neuter. Or you can find someone who is giving away kittens for free. Craigslist has been cracking down on these lately but you can still find them. Right now at the end of summer the animal shelters will be chock full of adoptable kittens.

Personally I would not adopt a pet under those conditions. That seems crazy restrictive and I'd prefer regular vet care to whatever they are into.

Some animal rescues go a little overboard. I'd pass on these guys. Some rescues seem like they put impossible restrictions on the adoptions because they are actually hoarders and don't want to actually adopt anything.

Good luck!


And that's the truth, ruth. It's really frustrating to read about yet another rescue operation having to rescue animals........... from other 'rescue operations'. And the story repeats itself over and over and over. All these non-profits/no-kills out there which are really just hoarding situations, accepting money from strangers and not having jobs because the donations take care of everything (except for the animals true well being). It makes the good fosters look bad.

To Bonanza Jellybean, it is nutty, unfortunately it's not unheard of among the hoarders ecor1 rightfully describes. Pray for the animals, and keep searching. There are good fosters/ rescues out there.
 
2011-08-17 03:27:39 AM
FTFA: She said they spent more than $33,000 on the shelter last year alone.

Maybe if "she" had spent a few of those bucks on a pay TV connection so she could watch some of those "Animal Cops" shows "she" might have been able to come to the obvious conclusion that "she" was suffering from some kind of hugely serious mental problem!
 
2011-08-17 03:47:02 AM
So, just to do my occasional side job as Solicitor for Old Nick......

They had 700(ish) cats that they were keeping, alive. Evil bastards! Good thing we came in, arrested them, took the 700 (live) cats, and more than decimated them. (Decimate, for those playing along with our home game, means to kill 1 in 10 of the population. They killed 1 in 7!).

They, in this case, being the "good" people of the police and humane society. Killed 1 in 7. Wait a sec, who's the bad guy again?

//I did not actually research what conditions the 700 cats were kept in, but "alive" is usually considered a plus!
 
2011-08-17 03:47:34 AM

Gyrfalcon: There's a crazy cat lady in California who has 700 cats. However, she's arguably not hoarding.

Argument? She spends $45,000 per MONTH on the care and feeding of her cats. These dorks didn't spend that in a year.


Came here to say this. I have been to the California shelter and it's amazing. The owner Lynea is a real trooper. The place is CLEAN, but it takes many full time staff to keep it that way. The way it is portrayed in the recent documentary is fairly accurate. Here is someone who has devoted her life to taking care of cats abandoned or otherwise mistreated by complete idiots, which is is fond of chewing out on the phone and for good reason.

I can't imagine what kind of treatment only $33k a year brings. The cats were probably starving to death and got no medical treatment whatsoever.
 
2011-08-17 03:52:40 AM
Also, some perspective: Lynea correctly states in the documentary that the local shelter (fresno) euthanizes 200 cats per DAY. So her 700 cats represent less than 4 days worth of that, from ONE SHELTER.

It's like bailing out the pacific ocean with a spoon. Until people are responsible with their pets (which will be never) the problem will never end. hate people sometimes...
 
Skr
2011-08-17 04:10:56 AM
They still didn't get as much as Wilt Chamberlain did.. wait uh what were we talking about again?
 
2011-08-17 04:19:58 AM
i182.photobucket.com

If any of y'all are in the New England/NY area, and are looking to adopt something smaller, smarter, and more affectionate than most of the cats I've met, I highly suggest looking at Mainely Rat Rescue (new window). They've just been hit with the intake from 2 hoarders in the less than 2 months, and have a ton of little ratties looking for homes.

We got these two little guys shortly after the first hoarder incident. They were sitting in the window during a rainstorm and got soaked, but enjoyed it too much to get out of the weather...

Mainely's restrictions are basically that you make sure they get proper care, and if you need to rehome the rats for some reason, you contact them about taking 'em back first.
 
2011-08-17 04:28:23 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: I've been looking into adopting a cat recently (never had a pet before, but took care of my sister's cat for two weeks and fell in love with the little snuggleface), and the nearest shelter is run by some crazy hippies. Their adoption contract stipulates that you have to contact them before going to a vet for ANY issue, since they prefer to use holistic/homeopathic methods on the animals they give up for adoption. They also require you to agree to unannounced home visits for the lifetime of the animal, so they can make sure you're taking care of it properly. Is this stuff as nutty/unusual as it sounds?


Totally nutty. My guess is that they don't really want to adopt out any cats, but have to have the option out there so that they can call themselves a "shelter" rather than "a crazy hippy couple that is hoarding cats".

I have six cats, I love them all, and I would never agree to this sort of nonsense. Go to a real shelter, or just hit Craig's List. Got the last four cats (not all at the same time) that way, and it's worked out great.
 
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