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2011-08-15 08:55:44 PM
Does this surprise anyone? Not that he used a SCUD necessarily but that it missed although I expect that it's launch site

SCUD are spray and pray weapons.

"Noting that Scuds are not precision guided missiles, officials said they couldn't tell if Brega was the target."

Perhaps he managed to shoot at $50 missile and blow up that tent George W. Bush was talking about.
 
2011-08-15 09:07:32 PM
With pic of contrail left by the SCUD.

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2011-08-15 09:17:33 PM
That's what you get for buying second-hand technology from the NorKs

/all sale final - no lefun
 
2011-08-16 12:47:57 AM
i01.i.aliimg.com

This is a cheap, Chinese made SCUD...
 
2011-08-16 12:53:18 AM
Didn't he learn anything from Gulf War '91?!?!
 
2011-08-16 12:54:26 AM
Can you actually hit things with SCUDs? I mean by aiming? I figured whatever was the "target" of a SCUD was probably the safest place to stand (the Riyadh barracks notwithstanding, but even that was probably an accident).
 
2011-08-16 01:01:07 AM
So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?
 
2011-08-16 01:01:17 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

You have the Scud, we have the Patriot. The SCUD TIMES TWO, YOU farkS
 
2011-08-16 01:01:21 AM
Cue the "Ha-ha" guy.
 
2011-08-16 01:02:23 AM

thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?




No, their leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power.
 
2011-08-16 01:03:18 AM
Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?
 
2011-08-16 01:03:43 AM

Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?


Because Democracy.
 
2011-08-16 01:06:20 AM

Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?


Just keeping an eye on things. The US military does that, when resources we want are at stake.
 
2011-08-16 01:07:17 AM
www.delawareonline.com
 
2011-08-16 01:09:10 AM
CSB time, and a blast to the past.
My buddy and I used to wander the streets of Springfield VA as eighth graders after the first gulf war and we used the term "Scud" for a chick who looked promising from a distance, but as soon as you got enough info you realized it was no good.

Love ya Kevbo.
 
2011-08-16 01:11:49 AM

adeist69: thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?



No, their leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power.


realized after submit didn't care
1AM and it's just a typo on the internet
get a life
 
2011-08-16 01:15:19 AM
us.muttpop.com?
 
2011-08-16 01:18:45 AM
i741.photobucket.com
 
2011-08-16 01:30:13 AM

Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?


We can't be in Libya. Obama promised us that it would be days not weeks back on March 18, 2011. Obama is a Peace Prize winner: No innocent people have been killed by Obama in Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq.. Our missiles and bombs only hit evil people since a Democrat was elected president. Also, unemployment is only 8% since Obama promised that is as high as it would go if we passed the $787,000,000,000.00 stimulus plan. Also he repealed the Patriot Act, closed Gitmo, prohibited lobbyists from being in his administration. Etc etc.

And if you disagree with any of the above truths you are a racist wingnut moron.
 
2011-08-16 01:33:03 AM

dosboot: Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?

We can't be in Libya. Obama promised us that it would be days not weeks back on March 18, 2011. Obama is a Peace Prize winner: No innocent people have been killed by Obama in Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq.. Our missiles and bombs only hit evil people since a Democrat was elected president. Also, unemployment is only 8% since Obama promised that is as high as it would go if we passed the $787,000,000,000.00 stimulus plan. Also he repealed the Patriot Act, closed Gitmo, prohibited lobbyists from being in his administration. Etc etc.

And if you disagree with any of the above truths you are a racist wingnut moron.


ugh oh how i loath political threads.
 
2011-08-16 01:35:42 AM

Craps the Gorilla: dosboot: Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?

We can't be in Libya. Obama promised us that it would be days not weeks back on March 18, 2011. Obama is a Peace Prize winner: No innocent people have been killed by Obama in Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq.. Our missiles and bombs only hit evil people since a Democrat was elected president. Also, unemployment is only 8% since Obama promised that is as high as it would go if we passed the $787,000,000,000.00 stimulus plan. Also he repealed the Patriot Act, closed Gitmo, prohibited lobbyists from being in his administration. Etc etc.

And if you disagree with any of the above truths you are a racist wingnut moron.

ugh oh how i loath political threads.


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2011-08-16 01:39:20 AM
img189.imageshack.us
 
2011-08-16 01:41:14 AM
Craps the Gorilla

ugh oh how i loath political threads.

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i741.photobucket.com
 
2011-08-16 01:57:07 AM

thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?


Libya's leader didn't try to kill his daddy.
 
2011-08-16 02:01:19 AM
The Bestest

Came here for, leaving happy
 
2011-08-16 02:07:17 AM
A Scud couldn't hit water if it rolled off a f*cking boat.
 
2011-08-16 02:14:00 AM

Gyrfalcon: Can you actually hit things with SCUDs? I mean by aiming? I figured whatever was the "target" of a SCUD was probably the safest place to stand (the Riyadh barracks notwithstanding, but even that was probably an accident).


Yea, if the target is pre-registered, the SCUD and FROG rockets are supposed to hit within 50 meters of the target.

In 2003 a FROG-7 was aimed at and hit a brigade headquarters and a SCUD was aimed at, and would have hit the American Battlefield Update Assessment center in Camp Doha, Kuwait but it was intercepted by a Patriot.

But when they just set up and fire the things without good surveying and target location, they can't hit a city.
 
2011-08-16 02:15:09 AM
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2011-08-16 02:15:30 AM

Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?


A lot of reasons, really. Firstly, oil is a big concern. Europe wants consistent access to Libyan oil so they have to rely on the Russians less. Secondly, tourism. North Africa is Europe's Mexico, every summer and spring break that's where they head. Getting rid of Gaddafi means that the area is more stable so they can continue using it. Getting rid of Gaddafi is an important issue too, he's shown himself to be a bit of a nutter and having nutters in charge of countries destabilizes things. With us hoping for stable, friendly democracies in Egypt and Tunisia we need the country in between to not have a nutter in charge. We also want to show support for the pro-democracy protesters there. Now that's a bit of a touchy issue since we didn't support Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Bahrain, etc. Now we didn't do that because those conflicts were either mostly peaceful transitions of power from an Autocrat to a Transitional Government (Tunisia and Egypt) or would drag us into a much, much larger war (Bahrain, Syria). Libya on the other hand has a military conflict between two distinct sides (One obviously a "Bad Guy") and has almost no chance to drag us into a larger conflict.

The United States also faced significant pressure from both the Arab League (Which we were trying to appease since we really don't seem to have a problem with every dictator in the League being deposed, but we should be diplomatic about it since they're not all going to go away) and the United Nations (When they manage to make a decision it should be supported since it happens so rarely). In addition, France has been taking the forefront in the war (For their own political reasons) and the US doesn't want to lose out prestige to them. Our support also gives cover to countries that want Gaddafi taken out but can't publicly say so because of isolationist populations.
 
2011-08-16 02:19:20 AM

deadcrickets: thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?

Libya's leader didn't try to kill his daddy.


It's funny here, but late at night when you're really really drunk and the loneliness sets in you say it out loud, and mean it, don't you?
 
2011-08-16 02:19:41 AM
I remember some of the Scuds fired by Iraq during the gulf war landed in the Persian Gulf and Mediterranean sea. They missed entire countries, including Saudi Arabia, which is 4 times larger than Texas. Germany had more accurate missiles in WWII.
 
2011-08-16 02:50:58 AM

OHDUDENESS: deadcrickets: thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?

Libya's leader didn't try to kill his daddy.

It's funny here, but late at night when you're really really drunk and the loneliness sets in you say it out loud, and mean it, don't you?


Except 'W' really said that...

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-09-27/politics/bush.war.talk_1_homeland-security- se nators-from-both-parties-republican-phil-gramm?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS (new window)
 
2011-08-16 02:53:46 AM
Gaddafi might as well be flinging camel pooooop at his enemy. soviet technology from the early 80's was just that, camel poooop.
 
2011-08-16 02:53:58 AM
Scuds were developed as nuclear-warhead carrying missiles targeting Europe (as a whole). No need for precision, just arm 2000 missiles and launch them southward from Russia. Mission accomplished.

I hope Gadaffi (Quadaffarih?) tries to target Italy with a Scud and ends up attacking Tehran.
 
2011-08-16 03:11:14 AM

thelordofcheese: but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?


Libya's leader didn't try to kill his daddy or his boyfriends.
 
2011-08-16 03:42:56 AM
Ahhhh, SCUDS, ABABILs, and FROG-7s, the MAC-10s and TEC-9s of missiles. They sound impressive when they go off near you and could kill you in the unlikely event that they hit you, but you will probably not be hit (as long as you are the target). Cheap and often owned by thugs, they may or may not operate at all. I picture them holding the launchers sideways, gangster style while firing them.
 
2011-08-16 03:43:00 AM
Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?
 
2011-08-16 03:44:06 AM

MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?


Mission Accomplished.
 
2011-08-16 04:00:15 AM

MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?


Quit your derp! Qaddafi was killing his own people. Saddam never did anything like that. Iraq was a nice place before Bush came along.
 
2011-08-16 04:01:30 AM

Marshal805: Somebody want to explain to me why we're over there again?



To change the headlines from unemployment and inflation. Obama needs a win.
 
2011-08-16 04:13:51 AM

muck4doo: MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?

Quit your derp! Qaddafi was killing his own people. Saddam never did anything like that. Iraq was a nice place before Bush came along.



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2011-08-16 04:17:14 AM

muck4doo: MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?

Quit your derp! Qaddafi was killing his own people. Saddam never did anything like that. Iraq was a nice place before Bush came along.


Obama told us that it was in our national values to go bomb Libyans and their stuff. He learned this from a couple of chicks that hang around the White House. I guess it must be true.

Aid for starving Somalis is being stolen by criminals and sold at markets there. I wonder if it is in our national values to go bomb those guys. They are going to end up killing more people than Qaddafi. Obviously, Assad is killing at a nice clip. I wonder where our national values are on that. Maybe I need a weekend at Camp David with Hillary, Samatha, and Gayle to help get my mind straight on these complex issues.
 
2011-08-16 04:22:46 AM

clovis69: Gyrfalcon: Can you actually hit things with SCUDs? I mean by aiming? I figured whatever was the "target" of a SCUD was probably the safest place to stand (the Riyadh barracks notwithstanding, but even that was probably an accident).

Yea, if the target is pre-registered, the SCUD and FROG rockets are supposed to hit within 50 meters of the target.

In 2003 a FROG-7 was aimed at and hit a brigade headquarters and a SCUD was aimed at, and would have hit the American Battlefield Update Assessment center in Camp Doha, Kuwait but it was intercepted by a Patriot.

But when they just set up and fire the things without good surveying and target location, they can't hit a city.


Libya has SCUD-B's. They're the "improved" version that was rolled out of the soviet factories in 1964. They have a range of about 200 miles and are accurate to about 1,500 feet (with a 2,000 pound payload!).

[Citation]

They have the FROG-7 as well, but the range on that is a mere 43 miles. The distance between launch site and impact alone means that this was a SCUD-B, not a FROG-7.
 
2011-08-16 04:28:06 AM
So the projectile is just hanging out in the atmosphere? Just sitting there?

Quite impressive I expect, missiles that do not bother with the law of gravity.
 
2011-08-16 04:28:31 AM

MeinRS6: muck4doo: MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?

Quit your derp! Qaddafi was killing his own people. Saddam never did anything like that. Iraq was a nice place before Bush came along.

Obama told us that it was in our national values to go bomb Libyans and their stuff. He learned this from a couple of chicks that hang around the White House. I guess it must be true.

Aid for starving Somalis is being stolen by criminals and sold at markets there. I wonder if it is in our national values to go bomb those guys. They are going to end up killing more people than Qaddafi. Obviously, Assad is killing at a nice clip. I wonder where our national values are on that. Maybe I need a weekend at Camp David with Hillary, Samatha, and Gayle to help get my mind straight on these complex issues.


Funny how you and your ilk are the most vocal of warmongers when your guy is in office...
 
2011-08-16 04:49:52 AM

Rhino_man: MeinRS6: muck4doo: MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?

Quit your derp! Qaddafi was killing his own people. Saddam never did anything like that. Iraq was a nice place before Bush came along.

Obama told us that it was in our national values to go bomb Libyans and their stuff. He learned this from a couple of chicks that hang around the White House. I guess it must be true.

Aid for starving Somalis is being stolen by criminals and sold at markets there. I wonder if it is in our national values to go bomb those guys. They are going to end up killing more people than Qaddafi. Obviously, Assad is killing at a nice clip. I wonder where our national values are on that. Maybe I need a weekend at Camp David with Hillary, Samatha, and Gayle to help get my mind straight on these complex issues.

Funny how you and your ilk are the most vocal of warmongers when your guy is in office...


Funny how I don't recall war mongering at all. Oh, I know why I can't remember - because you just made that shiat up out of thin air.

Besides, Libya isn't war anyway. It's kinetic military action that doesn't accomplish anything. I would bet dollars to donuts that we have spent far more on munitions and fuel than the actual value of the stuff we have blown up so far in Libya. Here's some warmongering for you - when your country has zero national interests in another country around the globe, don't go start bombing it because some people there managed to run off the police forces of a city. Let's call that the Don't be a farking Dumbass Doctrine.
 
2011-08-16 05:10:26 AM

thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?


No, he didn't. In fact he lifted sanctions after negotiating with the known terrorist. Not only did he negotiate with this terrorist he didn't even get Qadaffi to give anything up.
 
2011-08-16 05:18:04 AM
Iraq
Arab League:
United Nations:
USA: HURRAH. What? Bad armor? Not enough people? Oh shut up. MISSION ACOMPLISHED
Europe: WTF?

Libya
Arab League: guys, do somethingĄ
United Nations: No, seriously
France: Sacre blue!
USA: It's dangerous to go alone

Syria
Arab League:letters
United Nations: letters
USA: letters
Europe: letters
 
2011-08-16 05:27:08 AM

Happy Hours: thelordofcheese: So Libya had WMDs, and there leader is a bad guy that we have to get out of power, and the country is full of terrorists that support Al-Qaeda that want to kill us... but GWB didn't invade with a preemptive strike?

No, he didn't. In fact he lifted sanctions after negotiating with the known terrorist. Not only did he negotiate with this terrorist he didn't even get Qadaffi to give anything up.



Completely false, liberal bullshiat.

GWB got Qadaffi to surrender his nuclear materials, and agree to inspections. It's really one of the great accomplishments of the War on Terror that Bush got Mohmar to surrender much of his nuclear program without firing a shot.


On 27 January 2004 the United States airlifted out of Libya components of the nuclear weapons program that country agreed to give up. The White House hailed Libya for its cooperation and said its good faith in dismantling weapons will be reciprocated. The announcement was made several hours after the U-S transport plane had landed in the central state of Tennessee carrying some 25 metric tons of Libyan weapons program components including centrifuge parts, uranium, and sensitive documentation. The airlift was the most dramatic move since Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi concluded an agreement 19 December 2003 with the United States and Britain, to give up weapons of mass destruction programs in a bid to end two decades of international isolation and US sanctions

Link (Global Security Org )

Don't you commies even read the papers?
 
2011-08-16 05:53:57 AM

MeinRS6: Rhino_man: MeinRS6: muck4doo: MeinRS6: Remember kids "Days, not weeks". He's on his last legs, I tells ya.

Maybe Obama should have used "Years, not decades" instead.I wonder if the PanAm bomber will live longer than Qaddafi?

Quit your derp! Qaddafi was killing his own people. Saddam never did anything like that. Iraq was a nice place before Bush came along.

Obama told us that it was in our national values to go bomb Libyans and their stuff. He learned this from a couple of chicks that hang around the White House. I guess it must be true.

Aid for starving Somalis is being stolen by criminals and sold at markets there. I wonder if it is in our national values to go bomb those guys. They are going to end up killing more people than Qaddafi. Obviously, Assad is killing at a nice clip. I wonder where our national values are on that. Maybe I need a weekend at Camp David with Hillary, Samatha, and Gayle to help get my mind straight on these complex issues.

Funny how you and your ilk are the most vocal of warmongers when your guy is in office...

Funny how I don't recall war mongering at all. Oh, I know why I can't remember - because you just made that shiat up out of thin air.

Besides, Libya isn't war anyway. It's kinetic military action that doesn't accomplish anything. I would bet dollars to donuts that we have spent far more on munitions and fuel than the actual value of the stuff we have blown up so far in Libya. Here's some warmongering for you - when your country has zero national interests in another country around the globe, don't go start bombing it because some people there managed to run off the police forces of a city. Let's call that the Don't be a farking Dumbass Doctrine.


Apparently Qaddafi never said that he would show "no mercy" upon the people of Benghazi in your reality. Apparently, he never claimed that he would "cleanse Libya house-by-house" in your reality. It wasn't just some people that "managed to run off the police forces," it was a government, with a combined-arms military and a history of civil rights abuses and genocide, threatening to decimate its own population.

Come back to the real world.
 
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