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2011-08-14 08:19:42 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: Or rendered sterile because the kids nuts get more inflamed than Paris Hilton with a herpes flare-up.


I was gonna say, the anti-vaxers should be forced to GIS "orchitis".
 
2011-08-14 08:22:12 PM  
My kids have all their shots.

Hopefully when the infected un-vaccinated come back from their last hurrah summer trips to foreign countries they don't bring anything back with them.

I suppose it's going to take a few kids dying from an otherwise unnecessary infection for people to tell Jenny McCarthy to shut the fark up.
 
2011-08-14 08:22:18 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Everybody panic!


Everybody point and laugh at the anti-vaxer.
 
2011-08-14 08:22:49 PM  

Metaphysical Crepes: It's not his fault, he is allergic to eggs and they use egg proteins in the shots.


is he allergic to eggs or is he like 75% of people who think they have one and don't

/ hate people that say they have an allergy because milk gives them gas
// has a food allergy to shell fish and has to carry an EpiPen when i eat out
/// have had to use it 1 when some Chinese buffet had crab egg rolls labeled as pork, still had to get taken to the ER in an ambulance
 
2011-08-14 08:23:15 PM  

Metaphysical Crepes: brainiac-dumdum: I Are you autistic?

It's not his fault, he is allergic to eggs and they use egg proteins in the shots.

Of course the American Academy of Pediatrics wants to hide this by saying that it is still okay to give the MMR vaccine to most kids with egg allergy (the 2nd most common allergy behind milk), but that doesn't matter apparently.

/Seriously one of the arguments used.


Have you researched that claim using legitimate sources?
 
2011-08-14 08:24:16 PM  

metametameta: Metaphysical Crepes: The sucky part is the wide majority of people who seriously believe in her bs will be protected by Herd Immunity (i.e. everyone else getting their shots allows most of those who don't get their shots to continue living in blissful ignorance). They won't listen to science (that disagrees with them) because it's "biased" (but their science isn't biased), and thanks to everyone else not being retarded, they are covered.

Link (new window)

Heard immunity doesn't work when 1/4th of all those exposed to the virus aren't immune. So they are screwed. And stupid. And they'll probably blame society when their kid dies of the mumps.


It's when the kids that did get the shot, start getting the disease anyway and maybe one or two die, that things will start to change. Once the herd value is toast, even getting the shot doesn't guaranty immunity. If some high profile McCarthy follower's snowflake gets the polio that might help too.
 
2011-08-14 08:24:24 PM  
Thinning the herd in Florida... I'm okay with this!
 
2011-08-14 08:25:56 PM  

Sabyen91: Oh, god, here it comes.


Interesting. Anything else I should avoid, like, say, *spins rigged wheel* the 14th Amendment?
 
2011-08-14 08:26:26 PM  

Sabyen91: DoctorCal: AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: metametameta: My kid might be autistic, but he's a healthy high functioning autistic who will outlive your granola snowflake and probably make more money and have more fun doing it.

How do you figure?

The autistic do well with repetition and a set routine.
Hey, he's a healthy high functioning autistic and you're proud of that?
Seriously, sorry for your situation, but don't you wonder how he got that way? Or, is it easier for you to believe the bullsh*t you're told and blindly go about your life?

Curious: what do you think about vaccines?

Oh, god, here it comes.


The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

Anywhooo, just made a fantastic blackberry vinaigrette and off to finish making dinner. No time or interest in debate as I expect the usual outrage for stating the obvious.
Do your research people, and check the sources that funded these 'studies'. Always follow the money.
 
2011-08-14 08:28:48 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Sabyen91: DoctorCal: AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: metametameta: My kid might be autistic, but he's a healthy high functioning autistic who will outlive your granola snowflake and probably make more money and have more fun doing it.

How do you figure?

The autistic do well with repetition and a set routine.
Hey, he's a healthy high functioning autistic and you're proud of that?
Seriously, sorry for your situation, but don't you wonder how he got that way? Or, is it easier for you to believe the bullsh*t you're told and blindly go about your life?

Curious: what do you think about vaccines?

Oh, god, here it comes.

The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

Anywhooo, just made a fantastic blackberry vinaigrette and off to finish making dinner. No time or interest in debate as I expect the usual outrage for stating the obvious.
Do your research people, and check the sources that funded these 'studies'. Always follow the money.


Right. Follow the money. Right into the arms of Big Placebo.
 
2011-08-14 08:30:12 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Sabyen91: DoctorCal: AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: metametameta: My kid might be autistic, but he's a healthy high functioning autistic who will outlive your granola snowflake and probably make more money and have more fun doing it.

How do you figure?

The autistic do well with repetition and a set routine.
Hey, he's a healthy high functioning autistic and you're proud of that?
Seriously, sorry for your situation, but don't you wonder how he got that way? Or, is it easier for you to believe the bullsh*t you're told and blindly go about your life?

Curious: what do you think about vaccines?

Oh, god, here it comes.

The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

Anywhooo, just made a fantastic blackberry vinaigrette and off to finish making dinner. No time or interest in debate as I expect the usual outrage for stating the obvious.
Do your research people, and check the sources that funded these 'studies'. Always follow the money.


And how about the studies funded by an other drug maker (looking to cut in on the vaccine market) that started this bull sh*t.
Don't vaccinate your kids on your own time... and keep the hell away from mine.
 
2011-08-14 08:31:12 PM  

MadAzza: AverageAmericanGuy:

Totalitarian much?

We need a vaccine against people who use that idiotic "(adjective) much?" bullsh*t. It's so farking annoying. Please, everyone, just stop it.


You need a grumpy vaccine.
 
2011-08-14 08:32:59 PM  
You know, back in the day, scientists and doctors were respected. People were like "oh, the doctor said to to this, better do it, he's a doctor." Now people are like "meh who's that nerd guy with the white coat, what the hell does he know, I want mah freedumbs. Them's all in it wit da gubment to poison us."

Of course, they all vote tea party.

When did this creeping retardation of American society start, anyway? Ah, who cares. It will be fun to watch when the Sarah Palins and Glenn Becks and Michelle Bachmanns and Jenny McCarthys take over the country. I wonder if it's really gonna look like in Fallout when it's all over.
 
2011-08-14 08:33:56 PM  

Gaylord Fister: You know, back in the day, scientists and doctors were respected. People were like "oh, the doctor said to to this, better do it, he's a doctor." Now people are like "meh who's that nerd guy with the white coat, what the hell does he know, I want mah freedumbs. Them's all in it wit da gubment to poison us."

Of course, they all vote tea party.

When did this creeping retardation of American society start, anyway? Ah, who cares. It will be fun to watch when the Sarah Palins and Glenn Becks and Michelle Bachmanns and Jenny McCarthys take over the country. I wonder if it's really gonna look like in Fallout when it's all over.


Think Eastern Europe.
 
2011-08-14 08:35:18 PM  
Vaccines can kill. My daughter died from a reaction to the pertussis vaccine.
 
2011-08-14 08:36:17 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Sabyen91: DoctorCal: AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: metametameta: My kid might be autistic, but he's a healthy high functioning autistic who will outlive your granola snowflake and probably make more money and have more fun doing it.

How do you figure?

The autistic do well with repetition and a set routine.
Hey, he's a healthy high functioning autistic and you're proud of that?
Seriously, sorry for your situation, but don't you wonder how he got that way? Or, is it easier for you to believe the bullsh*t you're told and blindly go about your life?

Curious: what do you think about vaccines?

Oh, god, here it comes.

The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

Anywhooo, just made a fantastic blackberry vinaigrette and off to finish making dinner. No time or interest in debate as I expect the usual outrage for stating the obvious.
Do your research people, and check the sources that funded these 'studies'. Always follow the money.


Thanks for not disappointing.
 
2011-08-14 08:36:25 PM  

exvaxman: Vaccines can kill. My daughter died from a reaction to the pertussis vaccine.


I'm sorry for your loss.
 
2011-08-14 08:36:29 PM  

Gaylord Fister: You know, back in the day, scientists and doctors were respected. People were like "oh, the doctor said to to this, better do it, he's a doctor." Now people are like "meh who's that nerd guy with the white coat, what the hell does he know, I want mah freedumbs. Them's all in it wit da gubment to poison us."

Of course, they all vote tea party.

When did this creeping retardation of American society start, anyway? Ah, who cares. It will be fun to watch when the Sarah Palins and Glenn Becks and Michelle Bachmanns and Jenny McCarthys take over the country. I wonder if it's really gonna look like in Fallout when it's all over.


I wonder that also. Why did people start listening to celebrities for medical advice instead of doctors?

/I agree the idiots will be the end of us all.
 
2011-08-14 08:38:09 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: MadAzza: AverageAmericanGuy:

Totalitarian much?

We need a vaccine against people who use that idiotic "(adjective) much?" bullsh*t. It's so farking annoying. Please, everyone, just stop it.

You need a grumpy vaccine.


cambridgetab.co.uk
 
2011-08-14 08:38:35 PM  

A Terrible Human: Gaylord Fister: You know, back in the day, scientists and doctors were respected. People were like "oh, the doctor said to to this, better do it, he's a doctor." Now people are like "meh who's that nerd guy with the white coat, what the hell does he know, I want mah freedumbs. Them's all in it wit da gubment to poison us."

Of course, they all vote tea party.

When did this creeping retardation of American society start, anyway? Ah, who cares. It will be fun to watch when the Sarah Palins and Glenn Becks and Michelle Bachmanns and Jenny McCarthys take over the country. I wonder if it's really gonna look like in Fallout when it's all over.

I wonder that also. Why did people start listening to celebrities for medical advice instead of doctors?

/I agree the idiots will be the end of us all.


Start? When did we first have celebs?

They've been doing it for a long time. Unfortunately a lie can cross the globe before the truth can even get out of bed, probably 3 or 4 times now with the internet giving a soapbox to every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a conspiracy theory.
 
2011-08-14 08:39:06 PM  

exvaxman: Vaccines can kill. My daughter died from a reaction to the pertussis vaccine.


Truly sorry. My naturopath warned me against that one. My daughter is in her 20's and quite healthy and I am grateful for that.
 
2011-08-14 08:41:26 PM  
My school district in California REQUIRED students to get shots or they would not be allowed to attend school, the first day back tons of kids were sent back home and the administration refused to give them their school schedule until they receive the required vaccination.

/Lawsuit in 3.. 2.. 1..
 
2011-08-14 08:41:27 PM  

kd8our: sssshhhh that's evolution in action. when they die we can have their stuff.


except that some vaccines are not 100% effective. just because you have the shots, doesn't mean you can't die from said horrible diseases.

that's the theory behind herd immunity. if the vaccine is only 80% effective, you need 99% of the population to have it, because it protects the 20% for whom it is ineffective.
 
2011-08-14 08:43:00 PM  

AbbeySomeone: naturopath


Naturopathy

Not sure if legitimate science. (new window)
 
2011-08-14 08:44:50 PM  

meat0918: Of course, they all vote tea party.


Not political much, but why do people on Fark hate the idea of "Tea Party"? It basically says don't spend more than you take in. Stop taxing so much, chill, and do the basics, Mr. Government.

No dog in the race here, and I'm certainly not a Republican nor Democrat.
 
2011-08-14 08:45:26 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Sabyen91: DoctorCal: AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: metametameta: My kid might be autistic, but he's a healthy high functioning autistic who will outlive your granola snowflake and probably make more money and have more fun doing it.

How do you figure?

The autistic do well with repetition and a set routine.
Hey, he's a healthy high functioning autistic and you're proud of that?
Seriously, sorry for your situation, but don't you wonder how he got that way? Or, is it easier for you to believe the bullsh*t you're told and blindly go about your life?

Curious: what do you think about vaccines?

Oh, god, here it comes.

The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

Anywhooo, just made a fantastic blackberry vinaigrette and off to finish making dinner. No time or interest in debate as I expect the usual outrage for stating the obvious.
Do your research people, and check the sources that funded these 'studies'. Always follow the money.


Dude, the rise of autistics has a hell of a lot more to do with the fact that reclassified weird kids as having "aspergers" than it has to do with with vaccines.

When I was a kid, my parents took me to psychologists who said, "Yep, seems like she just doesn't notice other people. Not sure why." And then they signed me up for classes at the local insane asylum (not kidding) to learn how to play with other kids. My diagnosis: Nothing! Because aspergers didn't exist as a concept back then. I was just a weird kid with social problems.

Fast forward 30 years, my kid talks to his GP for the first time and she nods and says, "yep, that's Aspergers."

It's amazing how a definition change can have such an impact on the number of people labled "autistic".
 
2011-08-14 08:46:35 PM  

bmihura: meat0918: Of course, they all vote tea party.

Not political much, but why do people on Fark hate the idea of "Tea Party"? It basically says don't spend more than you take in. Stop taxing so much, chill, and do the basics, Mr. Government.

No dog in the race here, and I'm certainly not a Republican nor Democrat.


Are you new? Or naive? They elected a certain type of person. Social conservatives. It isn't about economics.
 
2011-08-14 08:49:00 PM  

metametameta: AbbeySomeone: Sabyen91: DoctorCal: AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: metametameta: My kid might be autistic, but he's a healthy high functioning autistic who will outlive your granola snowflake and probably make more money and have more fun doing it.

How do you figure?

The autistic do well with repetition and a set routine.
Hey, he's a healthy high functioning autistic and you're proud of that?
Seriously, sorry for your situation, but don't you wonder how he got that way? Or, is it easier for you to believe the bullsh*t you're told and blindly go about your life?

Curious: what do you think about vaccines?

Oh, god, here it comes.

The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

Anywhooo, just made a fantastic blackberry vinaigrette and off to finish making dinner. No time or interest in debate as I expect the usual outrage for stating the obvious.
Do your research people, and check the sources that funded these 'studies'. Always follow the money.

Dude, the rise of autistics has a hell of a lot more to do with the fact that reclassified weird kids as having "aspergers" than it has to do with with vaccines.

When I was a kid, my parents took me to psychologists who said, "Yep, seems like she just doesn't notice other people. Not sure why." And then they signed me up for classes at the local insane asylum (not kidding) to learn how to play with other kids. My diagnosis: Nothing! Because aspergers didn't exist as a concept back then. I was just a weird kid with social problems.

Fast forward 30 years, my kid talks to his GP for the first time and she nods and says, "yep, that's Aspergers."

It's amazing how a definition change can have such an impact on the number of people labled "autistic".


Yup. ADHD didn't exist before 30 years ago because they didn't diagnose it. We have conquered shell shock because we no longer diagnose it. Win.

/Oh, PTSD? Crap.
 
2011-08-14 08:51:01 PM  

AbbeySomeone: The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!


AbbeySomeone: My naturopath...


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msnbcmedia1.msn.com
 
2011-08-14 08:51:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: GAT_00: Stop letting kids go to class without their shots. Make all school required shots free. Then start charging parents with child endangerment if they don't get the shots.

And make sure the shots can be given at all hours for parents that work during the day. Hold week long events at the schools that run from 5 in the morning until 10 at night.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but you can't legally or morally force someone to put something they don't trust into their body.


Agreed, they just cannot send their children to school without innoculating them.
 
2011-08-14 08:52:00 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Ssyxz: AverageAmericanGuy: Not to put too fine a point on it, but you can't legally or morally force someone to put something they don't trust into their body.

We'll just have to let those death row inmates know this.

I see... So the kids are like criminals who warrant the injection of possibly life-threatening substances into their bodies against their will.

Gotcha.


You seem to an issue with science or as I'm sure you call it 'science'.

There is exactly ZERO connection between immunization shots and ANY known side/after effects.

This is not to say that out of a population (in the U.S.) of 300MM+ there could not be an adverse reaction but that's the risk.

YOU would rather have that 300MM+ at risk to save one possible person rather than make sure that 300MM+ are safe at the possible risk of some unknown reaction to one person.

Wow. You're one of two things:
1) Incredibly stupid and short-sighted or
2) Incredibly selfish.
 
2011-08-14 08:52:29 PM  

A Terrible Human: When did this creeping retardation of American society start, anyway? Ah, who cares. It will be fun to watch when the Sarah Palins and Glenn Becks and Michelle Bachmanns and Jenny McCarthys take over the country. I wonder if it's really gonna look like in Fallout when it's all over.


I;m expecting idiocracy myself.
 
2011-08-14 08:53:04 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Nice tropical climate, nearly 1/4 of children uninoculated. What could possibly go wrong?


I'd laugh and enjoy watching idiots provide useful warnings for the rest of us...

...if it wasn't for the fact that innocent kids will be hurt and killed because of it.

/biology, how does it farking work?!
 
2011-08-14 08:54:07 PM  
They think it is an increase and Haitians. There might be ignorance or the kids might not be caught up skewing the statistics.

Someone mention county health. If there is a language barrier this can create an issue. Call and ask how much it cost. You may find they will quote you a high amount, until you start asking follow up questions.

MO requires 8th graders to get the DTaP. More than one family ran into issues with misinformation from county health. Our local school sent out letter to help parents navigate the fee schedule.
 
2011-08-14 08:56:39 PM  
I have a two year old that shows a couple red flags for mild autism and my in-laws keep telling me it was probably his vaccinations or "all those tuna sandwiches you ate while pregnant." So in addition to feeling stabby, I'm also now getting a kick out of this...

/in-laws are from Florida, surprisingly enough
 
2011-08-14 08:59:37 PM  

jaytkay: AbbeySomeone: The rise of autism and other issues is directly related to the required number of vaccines in children and the manufacturer's lack of legal or ethical responsibility for the side affects of the vaccines. What a coincidence!

AbbeySomeone: My naturopath...


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Like I said. Straight into the arms of Big Placebo
 
2011-08-14 09:07:16 PM  

Moonfisher: I have a two year old that shows a couple red flags for mild autism and my in-laws keep telling me it was probably his vaccinations or "all those tuna sandwiches you ate while pregnant." So in addition to feeling stabby, I'm also now getting a kick out of this...

/in-laws are from Florida, surprisingly enough


They might have (poorly) picked it up from this. (new window)
 
2011-08-14 09:07:34 PM  
A tolstoy about my kid. Since my daughter was killed by a reaction to the pertussis vaccine, my son did not get it. The school sent a letter when he was in 1st grade stating that we were to be investigated as "unfit" parents and that he would be taken away from us. I took the letter in to one of the company lawyers, who made some calls and told me it was serious - get in touch with the state. So I did - to be told to deal with the local state HHS office. It was a little after 9:AM at this point, so I drove to the local office. Nobody there. Called the local state rep and he called a couple of the TV stations. When the local HHS folks arrived (close to noon) they were met with news crews and the rep on full "re-elect me to deal with government waste/workers who don't show up" mode. My case was immediatly answered by the head of the state HHS who also read the letter and was shocked (She bolted from her office to show up at the local office when it went on the noon news) - not legal in any way shape or form according to her. Local school district was audited and all student files were required to be reviewed - cost the district $250K. One of the district admins said that all I had to do was sign a waiver. My response (through a lawyer) was that they had threatened me with legal action and as such a judicial review was required. I did not have issues with anything in the district since.
 
2011-08-14 09:12:08 PM  

exvaxman: Vaccines can kill. My daughter died from a reaction to the pertussis vaccine.



Yup, vaccinations can kill and cause lifelong disabilities.
 
2011-08-14 09:18:05 PM  
I have the sort of immune system that rides the short bus to work. Imagine a ton of white blood cells with little helmets and bibs gallumphing around a body yelling "YAY! PUDDIN' DAY!" My body doesn't get full immunity to anything. Ever. It is incapable of it. I rely on herd immunity to keep from contracting childhood diseases that kill adults, because vaccines don't do shiat for me. As a kid, I has chicken pox. Twice. I had measels. I had mumps. And I'd had the vaccines. As an adult, I had to get a booster for all the usual vaccines before I went back to college. I wound up catching pertussis last year from a California snowflake.
I have to work my ass off to stay healthy, but one irresponsible jackass carrying a preventable disease will negate all of it. I have medical bills like you wouldn't believe, thanks to non-vac assholes, because the complications of contracting a childhood illness as an adult are usually pretty farking severe. I can understand skipping a flu shot, but the MMR? Selfish, selfish farkwads. I take it a little personally when someone puts my life in danger because they've decided they're entitled to do so somehow.
 
2011-08-14 09:18:10 PM  

Splinshints: AverageAmericanGuy: Then the school system must make teachers and materials free to the student in his home. Public education is a right, and the government must make allowances for those who opt out of certain procedures that violate the beliefs of its pupils.

Intentionally turning yourself into a walking public health hazard by refusing vaccinations is no more a belief than it would be a belief that you should be able to smear yourself in feces and run around the school slapping people with a raw fish. You don't get to just arbitrarily declare that the way you think is a legitimate belief and make everybody else kowtow to your insanity. We already make distinctions between beliefs and stupidity. This is stupidity.

People who refuse vaccinations for anything other than a legitimate medical concern should be offered a choice: you can either stop being a moron and get vaccinated or you can have a free ticket to Somalia with the condition that you are never allowed to return to civilized society again.


And now you are a Favorite of mine. Fo' sure.

/I work with a physician who has stated that he thinks parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids should be shot
//I don't think he means with a needle
 
2011-08-14 09:18:48 PM  

exvaxman: A tolstoy about my kid. Since my daughter was killed by a reaction to the pertussis vaccine, my son did not get it. The school sent a letter when he was in 1st grade stating that we were to be investigated as "unfit" parents and that he would be taken away from us. I took the letter in to one of the company lawyers, who made some calls and told me it was serious - get in touch with the state. So I did - to be told to deal with the local state HHS office. It was a little after 9:AM at this point, so I drove to the local office. Nobody there. Called the local state rep and he called a couple of the TV stations. When the local HHS folks arrived (close to noon) they were met with news crews and the rep on full "re-elect me to deal with government waste/workers who don't show up" mode. My case was immediatly answered by the head of the state HHS who also read the letter and was shocked (She bolted from her office to show up at the local office when it went on the noon news) - not legal in any way shape or form according to her. Local school district was audited and all student files were required to be reviewed - cost the district $250K. One of the district admins said that all I had to do was sign a waiver. My response (through a lawyer) was that they had threatened me with legal action and as such a judicial review was required. I did not have issues with anything in the district since.


csb.
 
2011-08-14 09:20:18 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: you can't legally or morally force someone to put something they don't trust into their body.


You can for fiddy bucks.

GIGGITY GIGGITY GOO GOO GOO

www.glogster.com
 
2011-08-14 09:20:47 PM  

brainiac-dumdum: Yup, vaccinations can kill and cause lifelong disabilities.


The sad thing is that the vaccine act under Bush Sr was meant to be a quick relief for these things - so that the parents knew that their kids would be taken care of. One of the first things done under Clinton was the fund being blocked from any payouts because they saw the excess funds in it as a way to help balance the budget. There are known cases where gov't investigators kidnapped kids (made national news one time when a quick thinking bus driver called the police seeing a kid with mental disabilities being forced into a car). Hillary, who had no official office, when my father's senator called HHS to see what was going on in our case actually threatened him saying that all health issues were hers. My father said that he had never heard such language from a senator (Dad was a white house advisor from JFK to Nixon and a pentagon "named" person)
 
2011-08-14 09:22:20 PM  

Moonfisher: I have a two year old that shows a couple red flags for mild autism and my in-laws keep telling me it was probably his vaccinations or "all those tuna sandwiches you ate while pregnant." So in addition to feeling stabby, I'm also now getting a kick out of this...

/in-laws are from Florida, surprisingly enough


This might help--go to the 'parents' section of the discussion board. (new window)

And metametameta, you're full of shiat. I was 'the weird kid' for eighteen years. I also believed I was inherently evil, that people hated me because something was morally wrong with me, and that if I ever believed otherwise, someone would kill me. And that's not counting the random times when, for an hour or so, I would have to force myself not to kill myself somehow. Just having the word 'Asperger's' completely turned my life around. Yeah, it sucks, but the diagnosis really doesn't, and I pity your kid, because if you tell him, even just by saying "you're just the weird kid", that it doesn't exist, you're going to hurt him a lot more than you think.
 
2011-08-14 09:22:23 PM  

hobodojo: I have the sort of immune system that rides the short bus to work. Imagine a ton of white blood cells with little helmets and bibs gallumphing around a body yelling "YAY! PUDDIN' DAY!" My body doesn't get full immunity to anything. Ever. It is incapable of it. I rely on herd immunity to keep from contracting childhood diseases that kill adults, because vaccines don't do shiat for me. As a kid, I has chicken pox. Twice. I had measels. I had mumps. And I'd had the vaccines. As an adult, I had to get a booster for all the usual vaccines before I went back to college. I wound up catching pertussis last year from a California snowflake.
I have to work my ass off to stay healthy, but one irresponsible jackass carrying a preventable disease will negate all of it. I have medical bills like you wouldn't believe, thanks to non-vac assholes, because the complications of contracting a childhood illness as an adult are usually pretty farking severe. I can understand skipping a flu shot, but the MMR? Selfish, selfish farkwads. I take it a little personally when someone puts my life in danger because they've decided they're entitled to do so somehow.


Wow, you're blaming others for your own f*cked up immune system? How does that work out for you in Eugene?
If you've had all the vaccines, why worry?
I bet you're popular.
 
2011-08-14 09:22:53 PM  

hobodojo: I have the sort of immune system that rides the short bus to work. Imagine a ton of white blood cells with little helmets and bibs gallumphing around a body yelling "YAY! PUDDIN' DAY!" My body doesn't get full immunity to anything. Ever. It is incapable of it. I rely on herd immunity to keep from contracting childhood diseases that kill adults, because vaccines don't do shiat for me. As a kid, I has chicken pox. Twice. I had measels. I had mumps. And I'd had the vaccines. As an adult, I had to get a booster for all the usual vaccines before I went back to college. I wound up catching pertussis last year from a California snowflake.
I have to work my ass off to stay healthy, but one irresponsible jackass carrying a preventable disease will negate all of it. I have medical bills like you wouldn't believe, thanks to non-vac assholes, because the complications of contracting a childhood illness as an adult are usually pretty farking severe. I can understand skipping a flu shot, but the MMR? Selfish, selfish farkwads. I take it a little personally when someone puts my life in danger because they've decided they're entitled to do so somehow.


How do you stop yourself from punching parents who insist that their little snowflake doesn't need a vaccination, because "it's just measles?" Is it just because you worry about getting another infection that you don't bust their front teeth apart with your fist?
 
2011-08-14 09:26:03 PM  

douchebag/hater: There is exactly ZERO connection between immunization shots and ANY known side/after effects.


exvaxman: Since my daughter was killed by a reaction to the pertussis vaccine

 
2011-08-14 09:26:14 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Not to put too fine a point on it, but you can't legally or morally force someone to put something they don't trust into their body.


These infants are making a choice? They are not trusting the medicine? Odd, I didn't know they had that ability.
 
2011-08-14 09:26:41 PM  
Another one - under Bush Sr, we were informed that the investigation on my daughter's death would take 90 days. As soon as the rules changed under clinton, we went a whole 15 months with HHS not answering anything. When we did hear from HHS, they were petitioning that the case be dropped because there had been no health updates. My lawyer (very good guy) started disbarrement procedures on the lawyer who wrote that due to the fact "that it was an obvious a death case" and she had not bothered to do any research or even read the filing before trying to have the case dismissed.
 
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