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2011-08-09 05:29:44 PM  

swaxhog: slayer199: I don't get the hate for Chronicles of Riddick. Of course, I have the Director's Cut which makes a lot more sense than the theatrical release.

I Chronicles of Riddick white knight in my spare time. Movie isn't half bad but you do need to watch the director's cut. Sit back and enjoy. Compared to Transformers it's the freakin' Godfather part II.

/love that Toombs character. I'm sure he got away.


What is the stuff they cut out? I'll admit that movie is a guilty pleasure of mine, I watch it every time it is on cable.
 
2011-08-09 05:31:03 PM  

donnielove: How did they narrow it down to just one Paul Giamatti movie?

Fred Claus
Big Fat Loser
Paycheck
The Nanny Diaries
Shoot 'Em Up
Planet of the Apes
Dr. Doolittle

In fact, why was he on the list to start with?


The hell you talking about? It had guns, crazy shootout sequences, endless Bugs Bunny allusions, a great soundtrack and Monica Bellucci. What else do you want?
 
2011-08-09 05:31:28 PM  

Free Radical: Every actor who has made at least 4 films, has made at least one bad film.

Yes, even Daniel Day Lewis.


John Cazale. Discuss.
 
2011-08-09 05:32:09 PM  

albert71292: I LIKED the "Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle"...


Same here. It did a decent job of recapturing the spirit of the TV show. Wasn't a big fan of the live-action villains (I think it might have worked better if Boris and Natascha were CGI in the same style as Rocky and Bullwinkle), but the movie was certainly watchable.

If nothing else, it's worlds better than the recent wave of revial crap like the Smurfs and the Chipmunks.
 
2011-08-09 05:32:33 PM  
As awful as Jaws 4 is (and it really is farking awful), I'm thankful for its existence for no other reason that this choice quote from Michael Caine: "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."

And let me tell you about the time Sir Lawrence Olivier told Dustin Hoffman to "try acting".
 
2011-08-09 05:34:40 PM  

KatjaMouse: slayer199: I don't get the hate for Chronicles of Riddick. Of course, I have the Director's Cut which makes a lot more sense than the theatrical release.

I would've liked that movie had it not been a sequel to Pitch Black. I would elevate that latter to being a great suspenseful alien movie and Vin Diesel gave us a damn cool character. However it was placed in a universe just a couple of hundred years into our own established future and gave us a timeline grounded in our own cultural understanding. Then someone took the surviving characters from that movie and threw them in a D&D scenario. But with spaceships.


This. I watched Pitch Black over the weekend again. There was such a genre shift between the movies that it really shouldn't have been considered a sequel at all. Pitch Black was a horror movie with a little sci-fi splashed into it. CoR was pure fantasy with a bit of sci-fi splashed into it. They also went from a Hard R to PG-13. Granted I haven't seen the Director's Cut of CoR (and if you recommend it I will watch it), but I was just so dissapointed in the dramatic shift that you didn't even feel like you were watching the same Riddick. It seemed like more of a cash grab on the success of Pitch Black than an actual story.

/Also the studio's treatment of Jack from the first to the second was pretty bad
//Did not know Vin Diesel was such a D&D nerd though. He went up a few notches in my book.
 
2011-08-09 05:37:54 PM  

chewielouie: I'm so glad Harrison Ford turned down doing a fourth Indiana Jones movie. I heard the script had to do with aliens and him surviving a nuclear blast by hiding inside a fridge or something. Man, that would have be awful and certainly worthy of being on that list.


Know how I know you missed the point of the premise?

A few things: In the 30s, when the original Indiana Jones movies took place, the big movies were action serials, featuring a daring adventurer, often tasked with finding a mystical element. Sound familar? Good.

In the 1950s, when Crystal Skull took place, the big movies involved aliens as allegorical tales about the Cold War. It also showed that the world had moved on from the mysticism of the past, and was embracing more modern ideals of science rather than faith.

So, no, the setting wasn't my problem with the movie. Not even the fridge incident, which is still logicall as consistent as, say, being able to use a whip to swing across a chasm, a weighted boobytrap releasing a boulder, being able to cling to a sub while it sails under frigid waters, being able to sail an inflatable raft down onto a mountain, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED by them using that same raft to essentially snowboard down selfsame mountain.

My problem was how lousily the cgi was incorporated into the movie. The most noticeable to me were the Shia LeBouf Tarzan-monkey scene and the ants. Good lord, those ants looked bad, even by bad movie standards.

So, yeah, the movie was the weakest of the series, but NOT because of the fridge or the aliens.
 
2011-08-09 05:39:00 PM  
Michael Caine is awesome just for being Michael Caine! His argument for making bad movies is awesome: "An actor who isn't acting ISN'T an actor."

Bad movies I like:

Loose Cannons
The Postman
Mars Attacks
........um, and a whole bunch of others.
 
2011-08-09 05:40:27 PM  

kanesays: Free Radical: Every actor who has made at least 4 films, has made at least one bad film.

Yes, even Daniel Day Lewis.

John Cazale. Discuss.


Well played.
 
2011-08-09 05:43:56 PM  
hey donnielove

Shoot Em Up is fantastic-Clive Owen, Monica Belluci and Giamatti
 
2011-08-09 05:48:33 PM  
Al Pacino in Gigli. Considering all the bad publicity about this movie, I never saw it. Did Pacino have that big a part in it?
 
2011-08-09 05:50:43 PM  
THANK YOU!!! Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

My big problem with IJ&KotCS is how Lucas rejected the Frank Darabont script, which made Marion Ravenwood a major character and had no Mutt Williams. (Nuking the fridge and the aliens were in it, but like you, neither of those aspects bothered me.) Instead, Marion (the character we cared about) doesn't show up until after the halfway mark, and Shia LaBeouf gets second billing.

Despite Lucas' claims to the contrary, he was obviously hoping to launch a Mutt Williams franchise.
 
2011-08-09 05:51:31 PM  

RexTalionis: I am convinced that Ben Kingsley's agent hates him. Look at the unadulterated parade of fecal excess that he's been a part of in the last couple of decades:

Bloodrayne
Lucky Number Slevin
Suspect Zero
The Thunderbirds Movie
The Love Guru
The Prince of Persia
Teen Patti (never heard of it, but it got a 4.0 rating on IMDB, so it's gotta be pretty bad)

Any one of those movies would be a career killer for a lesser actor, but luckily for him, I think his legacy is secured with Gandhi and Schindler's List.


Searching for Bobby Fisher, Death and the Maiden, and House of Sand and Fog round out the many reasons why Ben Kingsly need not be ashamed of anything.

There are some actors that might be in bad movies, but are never bad in movies. He's one of them.

/ See also, Caine, Michael
 
2011-08-09 05:52:45 PM  

gunga galunga: THANK YOU!!! Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

My big problem with IJ&KotCS is how Lucas rejected the Frank Darabont script, which made Marion Ravenwood a major character and had no Mutt Williams. (Nuking the fridge and the aliens were in it, but like you, neither of those aspects bothered me.) Instead, Marion (the character we cared about) doesn't show up until after the halfway mark, and Shia LaBeouf gets second billing.

Despite Lucas' claims to the contrary, he was obviously hoping to launch a Mutt Williams franchise.


This was a response to PezzaJedi's post.
 
2011-08-09 05:52:58 PM  

Cagey B: slayer199: I don't get the hate for Chronicles of Riddick. Of course, I have the Director's Cut which makes a lot more sense than the theatrical release.

Pitch Black was a tough act to follow. Also I think the movie becomes significantly better if you remove the scene where Vin Diesel keeps himself from being burned up by splashing water all over himself from a canteen.


Pitch Black should never have been followed. That movie was perfect all by itself.
 
2011-08-09 05:54:50 PM  

MAYORBOB: Al Pacino in Gigli. Considering all the bad publicity about this movie, I never saw it. Did Pacino have that big a part in it?


No idea but I was talking with my girlfriend yesterday about horrible movies and Gigli came up. I looked on IMDB and that really was just a dismal movie. Between the first and second weekend, 97% of theaters dropped the movie (2200 to 79).

Apparently the director had a completely different script that much darker/grittier, but since the media was in love with Bennifer at the time, the studios made him change it into a RomCom (cut 40 minutes and reshot basically everything). Really sad too as it literally destroyed his directing career.
 
2011-08-09 05:55:50 PM  

donnielove: kanesays: Free Radical: Every actor who has made at least 4 films, has made at least one bad film.

Yes, even Daniel Day Lewis.

John Cazale. Discuss.

Well played.


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2011-08-09 05:56:11 PM  

slayer199: I don't get the hate for Chronicles of Riddick. Of course, I have the Director's Cut which makes a lot more sense than the theatrical release.


I love that movie. I was disappointed the first time I saw it, but enjoyed it more upon subsequent viewings.


Flappyhead: Shoot 'Em Up


Shut your whore mouth or I'll kill you with a carrot.

The one that's conspicuously missing is "Iron Eagle". Actually anything Louis Gossett, Jr was in after "Officer".
 
2011-08-09 06:00:24 PM  
Boasting a 2% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, this incomprehensible thriller sees a slutty Ashley Judd find all of her conquests turning up dead

Uh ho I think I should be afraid, somebody might come after me now.
 
2011-08-09 06:01:54 PM  

Rent Party: RexTalionis: I am convinced that Ben Kingsley's agent hates him. Look at the unadulterated parade of fecal excess that he's been a part of in the last couple of decades:

Bloodrayne
Lucky Number Slevin
Suspect Zero
The Thunderbirds Movie
The Love Guru
The Prince of Persia
Teen Patti (never heard of it, but it got a 4.0 rating on IMDB, so it's gotta be pretty bad)

Any one of those movies would be a career killer for a lesser actor, but luckily for him, I think his legacy is secured with Gandhi and Schindler's List.

Searching for Bobby Fisher, Death and the Maiden, and House of Sand and Fog round out the many reasons why Ben Kingsly need not be ashamed of anything.

There are some actors that might be in bad movies, but are never bad in movies. He's one of them.

/ See also, Caine, Michael


Allow me to humbly include 'You Kill Me' - understated, but fantastic. For balance, I'll also throw 'Last Legion' onto the "WTF' list.
 
2011-08-09 06:07:22 PM  
Since we are on the subject of guilty pleasures...

Can somebody please please PLEASE tell me why Midnight Madness is so entertaining. It is easily one of the dumbest movies ever made, but I enjoy it each and every single time I see it.
 
2011-08-09 06:15:13 PM  
Apparently I was the only person who didn't like Shoot 'Em Up.
 
2011-08-09 06:16:31 PM  
actually, I had more fun looking at the other lists on that site than this one.. BUT, even they had their errors.. and those quizzes.. HA.. I thought I knew a lot about the Star Wars trilogy, but according to the quiz I missed 6 questions.. yeah, I burned my tauntaun sleeping bag when I saw that...
 
2011-08-09 06:17:51 PM  
Didn't read the whole list of films, but Garfield should be on there.

As long as were on the topic of bad movies and guilty pleasures, let me add Joe Dirt and Nothing But Trouble to the list.
 
2011-08-09 06:23:23 PM  

timujin: Say what you will about the rest, but I've got nothing but respect for Caine's appearance in Jaws 4 following this quote:

"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."


RantCasey: This is without a doubt, one of the most overused comments on fark. Anytime bad movies are discussed, someone just has to bring this up.


gunga galunga: As awful as Jaws 4 is (and it really is farking awful), I'm thankful for its existence for no other reason that this choice quote from Michael Caine: "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."


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2011-08-09 06:29:37 PM  
While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies:

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2011-08-09 06:37:19 PM  

Gone to Plaid: While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies


You can count his good movies using just your fingers:

Raisin Arizona
Lord of War
Kick Ass (supporting)
The Rock
Face/Off
National Treasure
Weather Man
Matchstick Men

That's out of 67 he's credited with. He may be able to break double digits if you have any others.
 
2011-08-09 06:40:58 PM  

Gone to Plaid: While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies:

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2011-08-09 06:44:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Gone to Plaid: While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies

You can count his good movies using just your fingers:

Raisin Arizona
Lord of War
Kick Ass (supporting)
The Rock
Face/Off
National Treasure
Weather Man
Matchstick Men

That's out of 67 he's credited with. He may be able to break double digits if you have any others.


Call me sappy, but I am actually quite fond of The Family Man. Other than that I can only think to add Leaving Las Vegas.

That's 10!
 
2011-08-09 06:46:28 PM  

Teen Wolf Blitzer: Holy shiat! More!!!


Just watch video. (new window)
 
2011-08-09 06:46:57 PM  

rickythepenguin: timujin: Impasse: George Clooney is a good actor?

Yes


he's good at playing george clooney, i'll say that much.


Same thing with Morgan Freeman, he ALWAYS plays a black guy... no depth as an actor!
 
2011-08-09 06:47:41 PM  

Gone to Plaid: scottydoesntknow: Gone to Plaid: While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies

You can count his good movies using just your fingers:

Raisin Arizona
Lord of War
Kick Ass (supporting)
The Rock
Face/Off
National Treasure
Weather Man
Matchstick Men

That's out of 67 he's credited with. He may be able to break double digits if you have any others.

Call me sappy, but I am actually quite fond of The Family Man. Other than that I can only think to add Leaving Las Vegas.

That's 10!


Yea and almost nobody saw The Weather Man or Matchstick Men but I liked 'em so I added it. He's done some good movies, he's just leans a lot more toward miss than hit these days.
 
2011-08-09 06:48:06 PM  
I enjoyed Suspect Zero and Lucky number Slevin.
 
2011-08-09 06:49:34 PM  

Free Radical: Every actor who has made at least 4 films, has made at least one bad film.

Yes, even Daniel Day Lewis.


John Cazale might be the exception but he died relatively young.
 
2011-08-09 06:54:09 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Gone to Plaid: While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies

You can count his good movies using just your fingers:

Raisin Arizona
Lord of War
Kick Ass (supporting)
The Rock
Face/Off
National Treasure
Weather Man
Matchstick Men

That's out of 67 he's credited with. He may be able to break double digits if you have any others.


Birdy
The Cotton Club
Peggy Sue Got Married
Moonstruck
Vampire's Kiss
Wild at Heart
Honeymoon in Vegas
It Could Happen To You (fark you, I dug it)
Guarding Tess
Leaving Las Vegas
The Wicker Man (only if you watch it as a spoof of the original)
Knowing (fark you, I dug it)
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans
 
2011-08-09 06:56:08 PM  

Gone to Plaid: scottydoesntknow: Gone to Plaid: While not a great actor, Nic Cage has done his fair share of bad movies

You can count his good movies using just your fingers:

Raisin Arizona
Lord of War
Kick Ass (supporting)
The Rock
Face/Off
National Treasure
Weather Man
Matchstick Men

That's out of 67 he's credited with. He may be able to break double digits if you have any others.

Call me sappy, but I am actually quite fond of The Family Man. Other than that I can only think to add Leaving Las Vegas.

That's 10!


Adaptation
 
2011-08-09 06:59:23 PM  

fearmongert: rickythepenguin: timujin: Impasse: George Clooney is a good actor?

Yes


he's good at playing george clooney, i'll say that much.

Same thing with Morgan Freeman, he ALWAYS plays a black guy... no depth as an actor!


Bullshiat. In Shawshank, he plays a redheaded Irish called, inventively, Red.
 
2011-08-09 07:00:48 PM  
You want awful movie? I'll give awful movie!

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/One, WAS enough
//My question is, was there a previous one?
///I know, no known actos, but this movie is so bad I just go OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--
 
2011-08-09 07:05:06 PM  
Space Ass!
 
2011-08-09 07:10:50 PM  
When was Will Smith in a good movie? Oh, yeah, so shouldn't "Six Degrees of Separation" be a good movie that happened to a bad actor?
 
2011-08-09 07:16:00 PM  

IMDWalrus: albert71292: I LIKED the "Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle"...

Same here. It did a decent job of recapturing the spirit of the TV show. Wasn't a big fan of the live-action villains (I think it might have worked better if Boris and Natascha were CGI in the same style as Rocky and Bullwinkle), but the movie was certainly watchable.

If nothing else, it's worlds better than the recent wave of revial crap like the Smurfs and the Chipmunks.


Rocky and Bullwinkle was watchable as long as the girl wasn't on. She was terrible.

/And hey, it had Johnathan Winters.
 
2011-08-09 07:16:11 PM  

Flappyhead: donnielove: How did they narrow it down to just one Paul Giamatti movie?

Fred Claus
Big Fat Loser
Paycheck
The Nanny Diaries
Shoot 'Em Up
Planet of the Apes
Dr. Doolittle

In fact, why was he on the list to start with?

The hell you talking about? It had guns, crazy shootout sequences, endless Bugs Bunny allusions, a great soundtrack and Monica Bellucci. What else do you want?


It was not a masterpiece, but it was a damn fun movie.
 
2011-08-09 07:17:14 PM  

donnielove: How did they narrow it down to just one Paul Giamatti movie?

Fred Claus
Big Fat Loser
Paycheck
The Nanny Diaries
Shoot 'Em Up
Planet of the Apes
Dr. Doolittle

In fact, why was he on the list to start with?


His worst yet was Ironclad. So so terrible. It's the worst offender of shaky cam fight scenes.
 
2011-08-09 07:17:25 PM  
I'm more interested in seeing what happens when good movies happen to bad actors.
Godfather Part III comes to mind for me. Sofia Coppola pretty much dragged down the entire movie, which is impressive considering the rest of the cast.
 
2011-08-09 07:21:46 PM  
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Poor Bob Hoskins.
 
2011-08-09 07:30:04 PM  

DaGenius: I'm more interested in seeing what happens when good movies happen to bad actors.
Godfather Part III comes to mind for me. Sofia Coppola pretty much dragged down the entire movie, which is impressive considering the rest of the cast.


Tori Spelling in "The House of Yes."
 
2011-08-09 07:31:31 PM  

rickythepenguin: Mugato: How many actors, even Oscar winners just pretty much play one character? Nicholson, Eastwood, DeNiro, Pacino, most comedy actors...I could do this all day.


and that makes them shiatty actors. i mean, jack nicholson was a hell of an actor. he could play crazy (the shining), more or less straight drama (china syndrome), endearingly isolated (five easy pieces), antihero (cuckoo's nest), etc. he only became a caricature of himself in the last 20 years or so.

or deniro is the better example. awakenings? king of comedy?

i don't think actors should get points for constatnly playing yourself well. i mean, if you're saying "clooney plays clooney pretty well, because that's what the eastwoods/jacks/deniros did", well then I guess that makes David Spade, KEvin that Fat Guy In the Kiddie movies, and Adam Sandler good actors too. or larry the cable guy.




But.... Jack Nicholson wasn't in The China Syndrome.........
 
2011-08-09 07:32:26 PM  

EyeballKid: DaGenius: I'm more interested in seeing what happens when good movies happen to bad actors.
Godfather Part III comes to mind for me. Sofia Coppola pretty much dragged down the entire movie, which is impressive considering the rest of the cast.

Tori Spelling in "The House of Yes."


Goddamn that movie was farking stupid
 
2011-08-09 07:33:22 PM  

DaGenius: I'm more interested in seeing what happens when good movies happen to bad actors.
Godfather Part III comes to mind for me. Sofia Coppola pretty much dragged down the entire movie, which is impressive considering the rest of the cast.


I have a theory that every actor has at least one moment of brilliance in them.

Rutger Hauer: Blade Runner
Sly Stalone: Rocky. (Copland or First Blood, if that's your thing)
Cuba Gooding: Boyz n the Hood
Jim Carey: The Truman Show
Adam Sandler: Punch Drunk Love
Keanu Reeves: My Own Private Idaho

And then after that, it's gone.
 
2011-08-09 07:40:23 PM  

bmfderek: Flappyhead: donnielove: How did they narrow it down to just one Paul Giamatti movie?

Fred Claus
Big Fat Loser
Paycheck
The Nanny Diaries
Shoot 'Em Up
Planet of the Apes
Dr. Doolittle

In fact, why was he on the list to start with?

The hell you talking about? It had guns, crazy shootout sequences, endless Bugs Bunny allusions, a great soundtrack and Monica Bellucci. What else do you want?

It was not a masterpiece, but it was a damn fun movie.


The "Ace of Spades" scene was worth it on its own. The fight where he's farking Belluci was a bonus.
 
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