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(Entertainment Weekly)   SyFy cancels "Eureka," possibly after someone told management it was science fiction   (insidetv.ew.com) divider line 207
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2011-08-09 12:04:51 AM  
I like Eureka, but too be fair there isn't much else they can do with the show.


However I still stand behind the "fark Syfy" sentiment.
 
2011-08-09 12:10:04 AM  
You really saw they had nothing new to write when they did that whole time travel thing last year. We really need a new Star Trek series with the TNG writers.
 
2011-08-09 12:10:39 AM  
Have they cancelled Alphas yet?

If not, can someone explain why?
 
2011-08-09 12:17:18 AM  

darwinpolice: Have they cancelled Alphas yet?

If not, can someone explain why?


They already bought those episodes? That show is terrible beyond words. It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad. You'd think when they are pitching sci-fi show ideas they'd get a room full of nerds to criticize first.

TV Exec:"So we want to do a show about people with super powers."
Nerd: "So mutants?"
TV: "Kinda, we call them Alphas. There are good ones and bad ones."
Nerds: "So X-Men?"
Tv: "I guess, they work for the CIA though."
Nerd: "So Team X only American?"
 
2011-08-09 12:33:20 AM  

WTF Indeed: darwinpolice: Have they cancelled Alphas yet?

If not, can someone explain why?

They already bought those episodes? That show is terrible beyond words. It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad. You'd think when they are pitching sci-fi show ideas they'd get a room full of nerds to criticize first.

TV Exec:"So we want to do a show about people with super powers."
Nerd: "So mutants?"
TV: "Kinda, we call them Alphas. There are good ones and bad ones."
Nerds: "So X-Men?"
Tv: "I guess, they work for the CIA though."
Nerd: "So Team X only American?"


I wish I could remember where I read it, but some review referred to Alphas as "X-Men: Second-Class." Spot on.
 
2011-08-09 12:40:11 AM  
"Sheriff Jack Carter never made it home"
 
2011-08-09 01:02:57 AM  
No loss, once it quit being the light entertainment gimmick of the week, and went to full-on all soap opera all the time.

I hope Grayston and Cerra keep getting work, though.
 
2011-08-09 01:51:18 AM  
"Eureka" sucked. I want to see more real science fiction like wrestling and catfights between Tiffany and Debbie Gibson.
 
2011-08-09 01:54:26 AM  
Soon SyFy will be SyFyLess.
 
2011-08-09 03:19:21 AM  
It had a good run and was running out of stories anyway. At least they are giving them a heads up so it can have a good ending.

Screw syfy, though.
 
2011-08-09 03:26:17 AM  
Don't blame wrestling for this one.

USA has a lock on Monday Night wrestling, and probably always will as long as the ratings stay decent.

Nope, this one is just the usual stupidity of Siffy, and their hatred of anything Sci-Fi.

Looking over the ratings, though, I don't see why it was canceled. It's pulling virtually the same numbers as the other two shows on Syffy on Monday night.

But, that's SyFy for you. They canceled Sliders when it was the second highest rated show on the network (a close second to Farscape, even), and replaced it with a bunch of shows that lasted a season or less.

And MST3K...
 
2011-08-09 04:35:38 AM  
I tried to stay interested in Eureka; it had an interesting background and actors, but somewhere the writing didn't keep up with everything else. The "go back in time and switch everyone up, but only a few know it" theme was where I started losing interest, and I agree it was clear the writers had run out of ideas.
 
2011-08-09 04:39:30 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: And MST3K...


don't get me started...
 
2011-08-09 04:46:20 AM  
This is why we'll never have nice things.

/When you channel thinks "SyFy is cooler then "Sci-Fi", you have to get off the train.
 
2011-08-09 05:01:44 AM  
goddammitsomuch.jpg
 
2011-08-09 05:01:53 AM  
Welp, there goes one of the last reasons I watch tv.

/It's down to Supernatural and Warehouse 13 and Psych now.
 
2011-08-09 05:10:39 AM  
I know that Eureka sort of lost a bit of what made it cool to start with but it's still better than a lot of stuff on SyFy right now. I'd be a lot less butthurt over this if I didn't have the funny feeling that it's getting axed just so they can make more "quality" movies like Mega-Piranha.

I'd just love to know how many people Bonnie Hammer had to let hammer her in order to become the new president of the channel. Why in the freaking world would someone who hates sci-fi want to be in charge of a channel mainly devoted (and named after) just that? Why would they let her be in charge of it? I'm convinced that her real aim is to get the channel off the air.
 
2011-08-09 05:18:39 AM  

sleeping martyr: "Sheriff Jack Carter never made it home"


Oh man, that ending...

log_jammin: FirstNationalBastard: And MST3K...

don't get me started...


seconded
 
2011-08-09 05:29:10 AM  
*VADERNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.JPG*
 
2011-08-09 05:34:01 AM  
I should be upset about this...


except I'm feeling relief instead.

They just got rid of the last reason I had to turn their shiat channel on. I'll miss Eureka, but that channel is dead to me now and I'm glad of it.

Eureka was too good for syphi
 
2011-08-09 05:39:35 AM  
Well its a good thing they still have those ghost shows. I mean, how could you possible not love those?

Scene: Nerds in an old building at night with grainy cameras. A creak is heard in the distance.
Nerd: "What was that?"
Silence while nerds stare off into the distance.

And just when you think it couldn't get more awesome, they made it international!

Scene: Foreign nerds in an older building at night with grainy cameras. A creak is heard in the distance.
Foreign Nerd: "Was ist das?"
Silence while foreign nerds stare off into the distance.

RIVETING!
 
2011-08-09 05:43:39 AM  

SinisterTwist: I'd just love to know how many people Bonnie Hammer had to let hammer her in order to become the new president of the channel. Why in the freaking world would someone who hates sci-fi want to be in charge of a channel mainly devoted (and named after) just that? Why would they let her be in charge of it? I'm convinced that her real aim is to get the channel off the air.


Makes me think of Carly Fiorina and HP/Compaq...
 
2011-08-09 05:48:33 AM  
I think they are getting rid of it probably due to the fx budget for it compared to Ghost Hunters which is probably a whackload cheaper to produce. HOWEVER, the show jumped the shark around the time that Nathan Stark left. After that I have felt it bumbling along. Also on a personal note I found that their gadgets were getting too futuristic to the point that it was obvious they were grasping at straws for ideas for the shows. Won't talk about the mp3 sharing episode and how as a govt sponsored org that would never be condoned by the mgmt.(oops I guess I did).
 
2011-08-09 05:49:09 AM  
Well, at least we have
Farscape
Battlestar Galactica updated version
Dresden Files
Stargate
Stargate Atlantis
Stargate Universe
Mystery Science Theater 3000
First Wave
Sliders
The Invisible Man
The Outer Limits updated


oh....
 
2011-08-09 05:52:31 AM  
Never forget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPt3Cgvrjy4
 
2011-08-09 05:52:36 AM  

rikkards: I think they are getting rid of it probably due to the fx budget for it compared to Ghost Hunters which is probably a whackload cheaper to produce.


Ghost Hunters also only gets about half the viewers of Eureka, which means less eyes to watch the ads, which leads to being able to charge less money to advertisers.

So in the end, it probably isn't doing much better than Eureka.
 
2011-08-09 05:55:40 AM  
Are you kidding? This is great!

I eagerly await its replacement: Ghost Hunting Chefs who cater for Hollywood Auctions and layeth the Smackdown on the side.

/with bated breath, I do
 
2011-08-09 05:57:33 AM  

angrygrizzly: Ghost Hunting Chefs who cater for Hollywood Auctions and layeth the Smackdown on the side.


at a swamp logging camp!
 
2011-08-09 06:02:47 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: rikkards: I think they are getting rid of it probably due to the fx budget for it compared to Ghost Hunters which is probably a whackload cheaper to produce.

Ghost Hunters also only gets about half the viewers of Eureka, which means less eyes to watch the ads, which leads to being able to charge less money to advertisers.

So in the end, it probably isn't doing much better than Eureka.


Those ghost shows are just a few unknown losers, a camera (preferable crappy), some jackass to make noises off camera and an old house. They probably cost about $10 per episode. Eureka has actual writing, effects, real actors, etc. All that stuff costs a good deal of money.

So if the ghost show gets 50% of the ad revenue, and as long as you don't care about having good shows, or you know, not pissing off the only people who once cared about your shiatty channel, it's a good business decision.
 
2011-08-09 06:11:46 AM  
so this means Wheaton is unemployed again?
 
2011-08-09 06:20:19 AM  

Abner Doon:
Those ghost shows are just a few unknown losers, a camera (preferable crappy), some jackass to make noises off camera and an old house. They probably cost about $10 per episode. Eureka has actual writing, effects, real actors, etc. All that stuff costs a good deal of money.
.


I take umbrage at the assertion that the TAPS guys are unknown losers.

They are from just up the street from where I grew up, and they are very well known locally.


...as the guys who ruined the SciFi channel.
 
2011-08-09 06:26:41 AM  
 
2011-08-09 06:31:05 AM  

ArmyCop: Abner Doon:
Those ghost shows are just a few unknown losers, a camera (preferable crappy), some jackass to make noises off camera and an old house. They probably cost about $10 per episode. Eureka has actual writing, effects, real actors, etc. All that stuff costs a good deal of money.
.

I take umbrage at the assertion that the TAPS guys are unknown losers.

They are from just up the street from where I grew up, and they are very well known locally.


...as the guys who ruined the SciFi channel.


To be honest, the SciFi channel was going under long before the plethora of Ghost Hunter shows started appearing on it. I'm finding myself more interested in the Destination Truth shows than the GH ones now; at least the DT teams go to oddball places around the world. Last season's investigation of an outpost in Antarctica by the DT crew was well done IMO.
 
2011-08-09 06:36:37 AM  
Hopefully Beverly will be killed off. Maybe bring back Taggert.
 
2011-08-09 06:37:42 AM  

log_jammin: FirstNationalBastard: And MST3K...

don't get me started...


members.iinet.net.au
 
2011-08-09 06:42:45 AM  
I caught up on Eureka over NetFlix. Good show for a while, but the premise got old. How are they going to save the town? Again? Two seasons running...
 
2011-08-09 06:47:37 AM  
Seen a lot of these posts lately. What nobody is noticing is that they've ended it after season 6. There's still a full season to go, after the batch of episodes airing now, until then. Season 5 just finished filming. 6 episodes in season six should be enough time to bring back Stark, I mean wrap things up.
 
2011-08-09 06:52:03 AM  

russlar: Seen a lot of these posts lately. What nobody is noticing is that they've ended it after season 6. There's still a full season to go, after the batch of episodes airing now, until then. Season 5 just finished filming. 6 episodes in season six should be enough time to bring back Stark, I mean wrap things up.


Might want to read the article there.
 
2011-08-09 06:57:03 AM  

knoxvelour: so this means Wheaton is unemployed again?


One of the great constants of the universe ;)
 
2011-08-09 07:00:10 AM  
Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???
 
2011-08-09 07:08:10 AM  
I have tried really hard to like Alphas, but, the premise, the background stories, the characters and the week to week stories just suck! I've gave it the honest try to like it, but I do not. The characters are annoying, I quite literally do not like any of them, which is strange, and I find no reason to tune in.

Now that they canceled Eureka, I am not happy. Sure, the show has kind of done it all, and they painted themselves into a corner with the Time Travel from Season 4, but, it's much more entertaining than Alphas.
 
2011-08-09 07:13:37 AM  
luckily the best science fiction on tv right now, torchwood, isn't on syfy.
 
2011-08-09 07:14:18 AM  

The Fool: This is why we'll never have nice things.

/When you channel thinks "SyFy is cooler then "Sci-Fi", you have to get off the train.


Source Code won't let you.
 
2011-08-09 07:24:08 AM  

Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???


Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.
 
2011-08-09 07:24:27 AM  
"WTF Indeed

It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad."

How can any one hate Warehouse 13? It's the only good show on TV these days!
 
Skr
2011-08-09 07:25:07 AM  
Caught some episodes of Eureka, was a pretty good show for the first two seasons I saw it. It looked like one of the few watchable shows on the network. It is difficult to comprehend that the network has their head so far up the rear end that they don't see how terrible the programming is.

I'll always have a sweet spot in my heart for FarStar ScapeGate.
Found some passing interest in Andromeda, though that originated in Canada and on the WGN for the the first few seasons.

MST3k transcended mortal programming. (rifftrax just isn't the same.)

I keep hoping that our savior show producer is just now leaving school and will soon grace us with good entertainment once again.
 
2011-08-09 07:31:27 AM  

Skr: Caught some episodes of Eureka, was a pretty good show for the first two seasons I saw it. It looked like one of the few watchable shows on the network. It is difficult to comprehend that the network has their head so far up the rear end that they don't see how terrible the programming is.

I'll always have a sweet spot in my heart for FarStar ScapeGate.
Found some passing interest in Andromeda, though that originated in Canada and on the WGN for the the first few seasons.

MST3k transcended mortal programming. (rifftrax just isn't the same.)

I keep hoping that our savior show producer is just now leaving school and will soon grace us with good entertainment once again.


Andromeda could have been really good, if the production company hadn't fired the main writer after 2.5 seasons. It was supposed to be an arc as well, but the new writers just derailed it.
 
2011-08-09 07:35:54 AM  

simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.


Caprica wasn't even given a chance to survive; it's as if they wanted it to be cancelled so they did everything in their power to make it fail. First they put it on hiatus for nearly a year just as it was starting to grasp its core audience and show some ratings stability, then they bring it back with absolutely no advertising to announce its return AND they change its timeslot.

I know the haters will complain about the writing and how it wasn't as gripping as BSG, blah blah (which I completely disagree with on all levels). But even they have to admit that Syfy mismanaged the hell out of Caprica.
 
2011-08-09 07:36:36 AM  

MDGeist: "WTF Indeed

It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad."

How can any one hate Warehouse 13? It's the only good show on TV these days!


Easy to hate. Hey guys, let's throw X-Files and the Friday the 13 tv shows into the blender and see what we pour out?
Fringe is pretty good. Different network, but still.
 
2011-08-09 07:40:20 AM  

AgtSmithReloaded: simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.

Caprica wasn't even given a chance to survive; it's as if they wanted it to be cancelled so they did everything in their power to make it fail. First they put it on hiatus for nearly a year just as it was starting to grasp its core audience and show some ratings stability, then they bring it back with absolutely no advertising to announce its return AND they change its timeslot.

I know the haters will complain about the writing and how it wasn't as gripping as BSG, blah blah (which I completely disagree with on all levels). But even they have to admit that Syfy mismanaged the hell out of Caprica.


Mismanagement. Yes. They even managed to screw up the DVD sales of their shows. BSG Season 2.5? WTF? How about all of season 2?
 
2011-08-09 07:44:52 AM  
Don't worry. It'll be picked up by BBC America.

/new Who on the 27th!
 
2011-08-09 07:45:36 AM  

Skr: MST3k transcended mortal programming. (rifftrax just isn't the same.)


Yeah, it's about a thousand times better. They aren't forced to come up with terrible skits to put on between commercial breaks, and they tackle actual movies someone might actually recognize. Their tearing-down of Titanic is pure awesome.
 
2011-08-09 07:46:50 AM  
"simplicimus
Hey guys, let's throw X-Files and the Friday the 13 tv shows into the blender and see what we pour out?"

Yea and what poured out was Pete! Pete's the man, if you can't see well then I'm sorry but there is just no hope for you.
 
2011-08-09 07:47:35 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Don't worry. It'll be picked up by BBC America.

/new Who on the 27th!


Wouldn't THAT be nice.

*kicks rock*

This sucks. Meow I'm going to have a bad day. WHAR EUREKA WHAR
 
2011-08-09 07:50:06 AM  

Confabulat: russlar: Seen a lot of these posts lately. What nobody is noticing is that they've ended it after season 6. There's still a full season to go, after the batch of episodes airing now, until then. Season 5 just finished filming. 6 episodes in season six should be enough time to bring back Stark, I mean wrap things up.

Might want to read the article there.


The one time I don't RTFA...

fark you, scifi.
 
2011-08-09 08:03:23 AM  

simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.


There's another one called Blood & Chrome that's set during the first Cylon war, scheduled for October
 
2011-08-09 08:05:02 AM  

darwinpolice: Have they cancelled Alphas yet?

If not, can someone explain why?


I can't get into Warehouse 13. Had hopes for Alphas. And Eureka has become boring. No reason left for me to watch SyFy
 
2011-08-09 08:10:45 AM  

Schlock: simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.

There's another one called Blood & Chrome that's set during the first Cylon war, scheduled for October


Probably DOA. We already know that war ended in a truce.
 
2011-08-09 08:10:47 AM  
EUREKA is probably my second favorite show on TV right now (after PSYCH).

Even at its mist soapy, it is head and shoulders above anything else on SyFy (ptui!)
these days, and once it finally ends I will have zero reason to watch what used to be
one of my favorite channels.
 
2011-08-09 08:12:40 AM  

simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.


Link (new window)

Guess they haven't...yet.
 
2011-08-09 08:16:49 AM  

simplicimus: Schlock: simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.

There's another one called Blood & Chrome that's set during the first Cylon war, scheduled for October

Probably DOA. We already know that war ended in a truce.


I would not be surprised at all if it was DOA. The wiki says they started filming in February but I don't recall at all hearing anything about teaser posters or advertising about it at or near Comic Con this year. Nothing.
 
2011-08-09 08:17:19 AM  
I seriously think that at this point, there's only one way they could save the network.

Galaxy Quest: The Series, starring Tim Allen, Alan Rickman, Tony Shalhoub, Sigourney Weaver, Sam Rockwell, Daryl Mitchell, and Missi Pyle
 
2011-08-09 08:17:58 AM  
Falling Skies FTW. Pretty sad when TNT has better scifi than the station (that used to be) dedicated to scifi.
 
2011-08-09 08:22:06 AM  
I think I'll just read books instead of TV....
 
2011-08-09 08:25:00 AM  

Jorn the Younger: I seriously think that at this point, there's only one way they could save the network.

Galaxy Quest: The Series, starring Tim Allen, Alan Rickman, Tony Shalhoub, Sigourney Weaver, Sam Rockwell, Daryl Mitchell, and Missi Pyle


Ok, at first I was like, don't ruin the film's memory, but then I was like, that's meta cool.
 
2011-08-09 08:27:56 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: But, that's SyFy for you. They canceled Sliders when it was the second highest rated show on the network (a close second to Farscape, even), and replaced it with a bunch of shows that lasted a season or less.


Did you actually watch the abomination that sliders became? I found it to be derivative from the outset, but man it turned into a pile of shiat.
 
2011-08-09 08:33:04 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: EUREKA is probably my second favorite show on TV right now (after PSYCH).

Even at its mist soapy, it is head and shoulders above anything else on SyFy (ptui!)
these days, and once it finally ends I will have zero reason to watch what used to be
one of my favorite channels.


You're not exactly setting the bar very high there.
 
2011-08-09 08:36:40 AM  

Sultan Of Herf: Falling Skies FTW. Pretty sad when TNT has better scifi than the station (that used to be) dedicated to scifi.


I was trying to remember what channel that was on. I'm usually not a big fan of scifi shows, but Falling Skies is pretty good. Can't wait for the new season of Walking Dead though.
 
2011-08-09 08:39:09 AM  
I haven't caught up on Eureka past Season 3.5, perhaps what you're all saying is true, but still, goddamnitalltohell.
 
2011-08-09 08:58:24 AM  

MrLint: FirstNationalBastard: But, that's SyFy for you. They canceled Sliders when it was the second highest rated show on the network (a close second to Farscape, even), and replaced it with a bunch of shows that lasted a season or less.

Did you actually watch the abomination that sliders became? I found it to be derivative from the outset, but man it turned into a pile of shiat.


I thought it started out great, but once again a show was ruined by Fox. Originally, every episode ended with a great little cliffhanger that led into the next episode. Of course, Fox decided to air the episodes out of order so that effect was loss. The writers were also forced to get away from the "alternate history" stuff that the show started out with and get more action and sci-fi, leading to the Cromags.

I love Sliders, but each season was a decline in quality from the previous one. Losing the professor was the point where the show jumped off the cliff. Quinn's brother was annoying, and Sci-Fi replacing Quinn entirely in the fifth season was just terrible.
 
2011-08-09 08:59:58 AM  
I'm surprised that a Farscape spinoff hasn't been created. In all those years since the original no one could come up with some compelling characters and story lines in a rich and diverse universe such as that? The first few seasons were exceptional.

I'd hope they stay with puppets and makeup instead of bad CG. Perhaps no one wants to front the SFX bill. Christ, even Lexx was better than the shiatty "sci-fi" they have on SyFi right now even if it was intended to be a mockery of then contemporary and past sci-fi shows ( I know the Sci-Fi didn't produce it).
 
2011-08-09 09:04:04 AM  
Television is a business model more than a medium. It's also largely obsolete. Creative types should abandon TV and just make what they want to make. Eventually the networks will take their rightful place as infrastructure for content creators, instead of being content creators.

MrLint: FirstNationalBastard: But, that's SyFy for you. They canceled Sliders when it was the second highest rated show on the network (a close second to Farscape, even), and replaced it with a bunch of shows that lasted a season or less.

Did you actually watch the abomination that sliders became? I found it to be derivative from the outset, but man it turned into a pile of shiat.


Everything since the ancient greeks is derivative.
 
2011-08-09 09:05:57 AM  

simplicimus:

Mismanagement. Yes. They even managed to screw up the DVD sales of their shows. BSG Season 2.5? WTF? How about all of season 2?


I absolutely refuse to buy any of those "half" season volume crap sets they put out. They're just trying to milk money out of the customers. fark 'em. Netflix 'em and burn 'em. Jerks.

/likes Warehouse 13
//needs at least one brain dead silly show to watch
 
2011-08-09 09:05:59 AM  
It's my fault.

I set my DVR to record the series last night, that is the networks signal to kill the show.

My bad.
 
2011-08-09 09:10:26 AM  
They need more fakey ghost shows.
 
2011-08-09 09:10:41 AM  
I watched a little of it last night. I actually started YELLING at it about half way through because so many things were just NOT what would happen.

"We devised an intricate way to get in and get out, then nobody thought to fabricate evidence or lay down a cover story so everything could be blown by A PHONE CALL. We're smart enough to drive someone with brain implants, but not smart enough to hijack a hospital switchboard."

and later:

"SHOOT THE CHOPPER. SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER! THEY HAVE YOU RUNNING AROUND WITH ONE OF THE PROP GUNS THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE SPACE SHIP IN MEN IN BLACK. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYONE ON THE CHOPPER, YOUR EX-MILITARY, AND YOUR ENEMIES ARE ESCAPING! SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER DOWN! fark!"
 
2011-08-09 09:13:54 AM  
What the article fails to mention is WHY SyFy is cancelling it. My guess is that after 5 years the natural increase in salaries for the regulars, combined with higher production costs associated with a long running series, ended up being the downfall of the show. This is the only explanation as to why this is being cancelled and not WH13, Alphas or Haven. All the ratings are about the same for the Monday shows so why not cancel the crappiest one, Alpha's? Because it is cheaper to make than the others. WH13 and Haven are pretty new, in their 3rd and 2nd seasons, so they are probably pretty cheap still.

With all that said, screw SyFy and NBC. Eureka is clearly the best show they have on TV with the most developed characters and the best 'arc', with the time travel story. I WAS convinced that at some point late this year or early next they would reset the time travelers back to the correct time and have to deal with all that fallout again. Now the show is just going to end, with no story resolution.

Also, now that Bonnie Hammer has decided SciFi doesn't belong on the SyFy network, I predict in two years it will be all wrestling and ghost hunter shows.

Enjoy WH13, Alphas and Haven while you can..they all have a target on them now too.
 
2011-08-09 09:27:11 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Sultan Of Herf: Falling Skies FTW. Pretty sad when TNT has better scifi than the station (that used to be) dedicated to scifi.

I was trying to remember what channel that was on. I'm usually not a big fan of scifi shows, but Falling Skies is pretty good. Can't wait for the new season of Walking Dead though.


Oh yes, wife and I are waiting for that one too. She was so pissed when it ended and I told her it was a yeah and a half before the next season. Ditto for having to wait until next summer for more Falling Skies. SHe gets a little annoyed when a "to be continued" includes a wait longer than a commercial break.
 
2011-08-09 09:30:00 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2011-08-09 09:33:10 AM  

Staffa Kar Therma: Well, at least we have
Farscape
Battlestar Galactica updated version
Dresden Files
Stargate
Stargate Atlantis
Stargate Universe
Mystery Science Theater 3000
First Wave
Sliders
The Invisible Man
The Outer Limits updated

oh....


lmfao, this. there is not enough fire for 'syfy' to die in.
 
2011-08-09 09:33:44 AM  
a network that had great potential and has failed completely.
 
2011-08-09 09:35:13 AM  

bluenote13: What the article fails to mention is WHY SyFy is cancelling it. My guess is that after 5 years the natural increase in salaries for the regulars, combined with higher production costs associated with a long running series, ended up being the downfall of the show. This is the only explanation as to why this is being cancelled and not WH13, Alphas or Haven. All the ratings are about the same for the Monday shows so why not cancel the crappiest one, Alpha's? Because it is cheaper to make than the others. WH13 and Haven are pretty new, in their 3rd and 2nd seasons, so they are probably pretty cheap still.

With all that said, screw SyFy and NBC. Eureka is clearly the best show they have on TV with the most developed characters and the best 'arc', with the time travel story. I WAS convinced that at some point late this year or early next they would reset the time travelers back to the correct time and have to deal with all that fallout again. Now the show is just going to end, with no story resolution.

Also, now that Bonnie Hammer has decided SciFi doesn't belong on the SyFy network, I predict in two years it will be all wrestling and ghost hunter shows.

Enjoy WH13, Alphas and Haven while you can..they all have a target on them now too.


It won't be ending without resolution. That's the whole point of giving them the five episode order. That way they have a chance to wrap things up instead of just canceling it in the off-season like they usually do.

I really like Eureka, but it's not as good as it was the first couple years. I agree with the previous poster that the decline started around the time that Stark left. I also really dislike the time-travel gimmick. If it was a half season arc that got resolved after a handful of episodes, I would be fine with it. Instead, it throws out any backstories or supporting character events from the first few seasons. It's a lame crutch for the writers because now they can conveniently choose what canon to keep or ignore depending on what's convenient for the current episode. I'll be sad to see the show go, seeing as how there's not much else on Sci-Fi worth watching, but I think it's time.

Alphas is pretty bad, but the reason it's not being cancelled already is that it's only been a few episodes. Some shows take a half-season to really get their groove. Just look at Fringe. I gave up on that show after the first few episodes because it seemed like a crappy X-Files knockoff. Based on what I'm hearing about it now, it really improved. I think I might have to give it another chance. I'm willing to give Alphas a season before saying it needs to be first on the chopping block. I'd much rather Sci-Fi gives crappy shows a few extra episodes to make their case to stay on the air if it means not having potentially great shows killed after a few episodes because the execs don't think it's that good.
 
2011-08-09 09:36:07 AM  
Well, shiat. I just recently got into the show and only last week got caught up to the most recent episode. Figures. Sorry, everyone, it's obviously my fault.
 
2011-08-09 09:37:07 AM  
That sucks. I still enjoy the show, despite it sliding back a bit.
 
2011-08-09 09:47:14 AM  

chuckufarlie: a network that had great potential and has failed completely.


You know, I understand that network tv is slowly dying. Soaps are dying in favor of cheaper reality shows. Profits are mostly made by syndication. But for a cable channel to commit suicide is unusual.
 
2011-08-09 09:50:50 AM  

WTF Indeed: darwinpolice: Have they cancelled Alphas yet?

If not, can someone explain why?

They already bought those episodes? That show is terrible beyond words. It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad. You'd think when they are pitching sci-fi show ideas they'd get a room full of nerds to criticize first.

TV Exec:"So we want to do a show about people with super powers."
Nerd: "So mutants?"
TV: "Kinda, we call them Alphas. There are good ones and bad ones."
Nerds: "So X-Men?"
Tv: "I guess, they work for the CIA though."
Nerd: "So Team X only American?"


The problem with this is that nerds are not a relevant audience. One look at Hollywood will tell you that quality doesn't matter if some CGI explosions + T&A sells. Nerds do not represent a large enough demographic for their to opinion to matter, If it did, we would still be watching new seasons of Firefly.

What matters is the derp masses that watch reality TV, wrestling, and TMZ. There's plenty of them, and it's easy to get their attention long enough to increase advertising dollars. This is why shows like Scare Tactics, Ghost Hunters, and WWE Smackdown are shown on SyFy. (And also why they aren't called Sci-Fi anymore, because science fiction doesn't sell).

The age of the nerd is gone, and that makes me sad.

/Was there ever really an 'age of the nerd'?
//Being a nerd, this makes me even more sad
///NEEERRRDS!!!! (insert Ogre pic here)
 
2011-08-09 09:55:52 AM  
I never understood why networks can shows with guaranteed audiences. I understand it even less with smaller cable networks like SYFY. Wouldn't it make sense to just order a half season and run an alternate show in its timespot to see if it can do any better/worse before killing it off and angering the viewers?

It's like these idiots are running off of woefully wrong, deceptive, or out of date theories for deciding which shows to keep, which to axe. In other words, the Fox model.
 
2011-08-09 10:00:34 AM  

AtomicTwinkie: WTF Indeed: darwinpolice: Have they cancelled Alphas yet?

If not, can someone explain why?

They already bought those episodes? That show is terrible beyond words. It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad. You'd think when they are pitching sci-fi show ideas they'd get a room full of nerds to criticize first.

TV Exec:"So we want to do a show about people with super powers."
Nerd: "So mutants?"
TV: "Kinda, we call them Alphas. There are good ones and bad ones."
Nerds: "So X-Men?"
Tv: "I guess, they work for the CIA though."
Nerd: "So Team X only American?"

The problem with this is that nerds are not a relevant audience. One look at Hollywood will tell you that quality doesn't matter if some CGI explosions + T&A sells. Nerds do not represent a large enough demographic for their to opinion to matter, If it did, we would still be watching new seasons of Firefly.

What matters is the derp masses that watch reality TV, wrestling, and TMZ. There's plenty of them, and it's easy to get their attention long enough to increase advertising dollars. This is why shows like Scare Tactics, Ghost Hunters, and WWE Smackdown are shown on SyFy. (And also why they aren't called Sci-Fi anymore, because science fiction doesn't sell).

The age of the nerd is gone, and that makes me sad.

/Was there ever really an 'age of the nerd'?
//Being a nerd, this makes me even more sad
///NEEERRRDS!!!! (insert Ogre pic here)


Even though they don't have as many viewers as reality TV, they should make up for it in merchandising. Nerds are well known to shell out money for "limited this" or "collector that" (as a side note, try comparing this to "sports enthusiasts", and the parallels are eerily similar, but don't call them nerds!)

Also, nerd is in right now....I think....at least to people who watch Big Bang Theory and think "I'm smart because I'm watching a show about nerds", or something like that.

/doesn't watch too much TV, has it on the background though when I playing games on the computer.
//only got so much attention to go around
 
2011-08-09 10:02:54 AM  

NeoCortex42: That's the whole point of giving them the five episode order. That way they have a chance to wrap things up instead of just canceling it in the off-season like they usually do.


RTFA sparky - that's what they canceled. No wrap up.
 
2011-08-09 10:03:51 AM  

Lazakesau: Welp, there goes one of the last reasons I watch tv.

/It's down to Supernatural and Warehouse 13 and Psych now.


Agreed these tv shows were syfy's saving grace. Now they are destroying it. If they drop Warehouse 13 that channel will have absolutely nothing left. If USA could keep a schedule for Psych it would be great.

/slashies
 
2011-08-09 10:04:34 AM  

RoosterCogburn: I never understood why networks can shows with guaranteed audiences. I understand it even less with smaller cable networks like SYFY. Wouldn't it make sense to just order a half season and run an alternate show in its timespot to see if it can do any better/worse before killing it off and angering the viewers?

It's like these idiots are running off of woefully wrong, deceptive, or out of date theories for deciding which shows to keep, which to axe. In other words, the Fox model.


As with every evil in the world, I blame MBAs. Once upon a time, networks would allow a show to live long enough to grow an audience. Do you think that MASH, All in the Family, Designing Women, Scrubs were all home runs at the start? No. And Star Trek went from a failed TV show to a cultural icon.
 
2011-08-09 10:12:06 AM  

NeoCortex42: bluenote13: What the article fails to mention is WHY SyFy is cancelling it. My guess is that after 5 years the natural increase in salaries for the regulars, combined with higher production costs associated with a long running series, ended up being the downfall of the show. This is the only explanation as to why this is being cancelled and not WH13, Alphas or Haven. All the ratings are about the same for the Monday shows so why not cancel the crappiest one, Alpha's? Because it is cheaper to make than the others. WH13 and Haven are pretty new, in their 3rd and 2nd seasons, so they are probably pretty cheap still.

With all that said, screw SyFy and NBC. Eureka is clearly the best show they have on TV with the most developed characters and the best 'arc', with the time travel story. I WAS convinced that at some point late this year or early next they would reset the time travelers back to the correct time and have to deal with all that fallout again. Now the show is just going to end, with no story resolution.

Also, now that Bonnie Hammer has decided SciFi doesn't belong on the SyFy network, I predict in two years it will be all wrestling and ghost hunter shows.

Enjoy WH13, Alphas and Haven while you can..they all have a target on them now too.

It won't be ending without resolution. That's the whole point of giving them the five episode order. That way they have a chance to wrap things up instead of just canceling it in the off-season like they usually do.


One of the very smart things the producers have done with the show from day one is
that each season has been dedicated to one self-contained story arc, probably because
they realized that they were on SyFy (ptui!) and that they were never going to be
guaranteed renewal from year-to-year.

I, for one, like what they did with the whole time travel thing, if only because the
bits with Dr. Old Spice were some of the most fun stuff they've done on the show.
 
2011-08-09 10:14:05 AM  

Super_pope: "SHOOT THE CHOPPER. SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER! THEY HAVE YOU RUNNING AROUND WITH ONE OF THE PROP GUNS THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE SPACE SHIP IN MEN IN BLACK. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYONE ON THE CHOPPER, YOUR EX-MILITARY, AND YOUR ENEMIES ARE ESCAPING! SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER DOWN! fark!"


That is pretty much EXACTLY what I was yelling at the screen.

They could have also gone with shoot the pilot, co-pilot, AND the chopper. Then stun the biatch.
 
2011-08-09 10:18:34 AM  
The SyFy channel sister station Chiller have better shiat on it these days
 
2011-08-09 10:21:25 AM  

Lsherm: NeoCortex42: That's the whole point of giving them the five episode order. That way they have a chance to wrap things up instead of just canceling it in the off-season like they usually do.

RTFA sparky - that's what they canceled. No wrap up.


That sucks. I had just read an article a couple days ago about the cancellation that still mentioned the extra episodes. I didn't realize that was dropped. Now I'm a bit ticked off.
 
2011-08-09 10:30:57 AM  
I know she'll be missed.....



www.thescifiworld.net



/link is hot
 
2011-08-09 10:32:04 AM  

Sultan Of Herf: Falling Skies FTW. Pretty sad when TNT has better scifi than the station (that used to be) dedicated to scifi.


AMC is really doing some amazing stuff for a commercial network.
 
2011-08-09 10:34:42 AM  
It was all a dream Carter...
 
2011-08-09 10:41:07 AM  
shiat. Sorry, guys... I just cancelled my cable subscription. Didn't know this would happen.
 
2011-08-09 10:44:58 AM  
screw SyFy.
I never forgave them for Farscape.
 
2011-08-09 11:19:12 AM  

MDGeist: "WTF Indeed

It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad."

How can any one hate Warehouse 13? It's the only good show on TV these days!


Psych?
 
2011-08-09 11:19:34 AM  
In 1994 I signed up for Comcast and as a preview I got a free month of the Comedy Central and this new thing called the Sci-Fi channel. After a week I told them to sign me up for the full deal. They could have all my money. All of it.

I just wanted the Sci-Fi Channel.

Space 1999, The Twilight Zone, Star Trek Movie Marathons (letter boxed!), Alien Nation, Time Tunnel, The Outer Limits, Beauty and the Beast, Trailer Park, roundtable discussions featuring noted authors, and the movies... Lifeforce ftw!

Eventually they played the original run of Star Trek uncut with episode commentary from the cast. It was pretty amazing.

I was there for the first Sci-Fi original movie: Official Denial with Erin Gray... mmmm

I've watched the channel just die over the years. I've never seen a more incompetent group of middle management idiots in my life. Bonnie Hammer is the Queen of the Morons. They never understood the genre or the fans nor did they care to.

It's been a long, sad decline.
 
2011-08-09 11:20:42 AM  
I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person watching Haven.
Because it's really quite good.
 
2011-08-09 11:21:15 AM  
I am sorry to hear that for all of you who still pay for cable or TV service of any kind for that matter. I am coming up to a year without TV service and I still don't miss it.
 
2011-08-09 11:23:22 AM  

Profedius: I am sorry to hear that for all of you who still pay for cable or TV service of any kind for that matter. I am coming up to a year without TV service and I still don't miss it.


Careful, if you get any more hip and cool, you'll pop out of your skinny jeans and catch a cold.
 
2011-08-09 11:23:58 AM  
Clearly they are moving away from Science Fiction and plan on bringing in Scyence Fyction.

/their plan is bryllyant!!
 
2011-08-09 11:24:06 AM  
I hope the programming heads all get syfylus and die.
 
2011-08-09 11:31:01 AM  

theoblongs: screw SyFy.
I never forgave them for Farscape.


Bingo.

Best show ever imo.


Although, i will add from the dvd commentary that SciFi funded that show at a loss for the entire 4 years it was on.

It was a pretty expensive show to put on.

/still doesn't absolve them from killing it. Make it work!
 
2011-08-09 11:34:25 AM  

Penny_Ante: I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person watching Haven.
Because it's really quite good.


I'm not investing time in any more shows on that network. I'll finish up with WareHouse 13 and Haven, then I'm out. The way they are farking up that network, it won't be too much longer.

/Haven is quite good
 
2011-08-09 11:34:43 AM  
Maybe the execs making the decisions have some sort of golden parachute and are looking to get fired or bought out.
 
2011-08-09 11:36:24 AM  

theoblongs: screw SyFy.
I never forgave them for Farscape.


I never forgave them for not picking up Firefly when it was offered.

/Damn right I'm still bitter
 
2011-08-09 11:47:06 AM  

Thune: theoblongs: screw SyFy.
I never forgave them for Farscape.

Bingo.

Best show ever imo.


Although, i will add from the dvd commentary that SciFi funded that show at a loss for the entire 4 years it was on.

It was a pretty expensive show to put on.

/still doesn't absolve them from killing it. Make it work!


Farscape was so much better than everything else they ever showed, it makes me wonder how it ever happened. Was it an accident? Were they hypnotized by the Hensen name into letting something good onto their channel?
 
2011-08-09 11:47:56 AM  
Eureka isn't good anymore, that's why it got canceled.

Last season was bad, and this season is borderline unwatchable.

I still like WH13, but there's a noticeable decline in that show, too. They need to start stepping it up.
 
2011-08-09 11:48:18 AM  
WTF Indeed: You really saw they had nothing new to write when they did that whole time travel thing last year. We really need a new Star Trek series with the TNG writers.

We did. It was called BSG.

What we really need is a HBO SciFi series. It's the only chance to get something.... good.
 
2011-08-09 11:52:10 AM  
I should have seen this coming. Disappointed but unsurprising. How you can have somebody who actively dislikes science fiction running a science fiction channel? Assuming your looking for it to succeed.
 
2011-08-09 11:54:38 AM  

SuperChuck: Thune: theoblongs: screw SyFy.
I never forgave them for Farscape.

Bingo.

Best show ever imo.


Although, i will add from the dvd commentary that SciFi funded that show at a loss for the entire 4 years it was on.

It was a pretty expensive show to put on.

/still doesn't absolve them from killing it. Make it work!

Farscape was so much better than everything else they ever showed, it makes me wonder how it ever happened. Was it an accident? Were they hypnotized by the Hensen name into letting something good onto their channel?


I don't think it was an accident as much as it was providence.

Everything just came together.

Excellent writing, directing, acting and effects.

Half of my fear of a possible return of Farscape, (they talked about webisodes in 2008) is that due to the passage of time i find it likely they would create new characters with new actors.

I want Ben, Claudia, Gigi, Simon, etc.

The series made you care far more about the characters than the events, not like star trek.

To not use the same characters and actors would blow.
 
2011-08-09 11:56:58 AM  
simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.


It shouldn't be.

80% of Sci-Fi's programming is rerun marathons from 7am-5/6pm. They could easily reshow BSG in it's entirety, and people would be able to DVR it in order. Also could show 2-3 eps together once a week, then restart it.
 
2011-08-09 11:59:11 AM  

Thune: SuperChuck: Thune: theoblongs: screw SyFy.
I never forgave them for Farscape.

Bingo.

Best show ever imo.


Although, i will add from the dvd commentary that SciFi funded that show at a loss for the entire 4 years it was on.

It was a pretty expensive show to put on.

/still doesn't absolve them from killing it. Make it work!

Farscape was so much better than everything else they ever showed, it makes me wonder how it ever happened. Was it an accident? Were they hypnotized by the Hensen name into letting something good onto their channel?

I don't think it was an accident as much as it was providence.

Everything just came together.

Excellent writing, directing, acting and effects.

Half of my fear of a possible return of Farscape, (they talked about webisodes in 2008) is that due to the passage of time i find it likely they would create new characters with new actors.

I want Ben, Claudia, Gigi, Simon, etc.

The series made you care far more about the characters than the events, not like star trek.

To not use the same characters and actors would blow.


I can deal with new characters in the same universe. It's worked for Star Trek. The problem is that they would almost certainly use CGI for the creature effects to save money. Part of what worked so well for Farscape was the actual physical presence of the aliens that you just don't get with digital effects.
 
2011-08-09 12:03:02 PM  
AgtSmithReloaded: simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.

Caprica wasn't even given a chance to survive; it's as if they wanted it to be cancelled so they did everything in their power to make it fail. First they put it on hiatus for nearly a year just as it was starting to grasp its core audience and show some ratings stability, then they bring it back with absolutely no advertising to announce its return AND they change its timeslot.

I know the haters will complain about the writing and how it wasn't as gripping as BSG, blah blah (which I completely disagree with on all levels). But even they have to admit that Syfy mismanaged the hell out of Caprica.


Yeah, don't even start.

Caprica SUCKED plain and simple. It wasn't good programming.

The characters went from being believable but flawed (BSG) to all being wretches. You'd get 5 min per plot line per episode, then they'd have the nerve to add another. There was never any story payoff, period. The melodrama was dialed up to 11, and it really was "All my Cylons", and not even in space. And no, lack of space battles where the least of it's issues.

Sad because they had the universe and material to work with, and Doug Drexlers team was doing a fantastic job in the FX dept, but Jane Espenson really dropped the ball as a producer.

I hated her work on BSG too, so no idea why she was promoted to such a important IP.
 
2011-08-09 12:03:59 PM  
i51.photobucket.com
 
2011-08-09 12:04:55 PM  

Semi-Semetic: I should have seen this coming. Disappointed but unsurprising. How you can have somebody who actively dislikes science fiction running a science fiction channel? Assuming your looking for it to succeed.


They needed more money for wrestling and "Quantum Kitchen".

Farking assholes. NBC Universal deliberately destroyed SyFy - ran it into the ground. That's the only way I can explain what they've done to the brand.
 
2011-08-09 12:07:04 PM  
Sultan Of Herf: Falling Skies FTW. Pretty sad when TNT has better scifi than the station (that used to be) dedicated to scifi.

That show sucks too. Big time sucks. Like, "I can't believe people had the nerve to pan "war of the worlds", yet says this is a good series" sucks.

Torchwood is pretty good though. Walking Dead is excellence so far. But really, the only good TV besides that is on HBO (minus True Blood, which has totally jumped the shark)
 
2011-08-09 12:09:57 PM  
It's a shame, I thought Eureka was one of the best shows they had. It looks like SyFy is going the way of TV Land. Now we can look forward to Monday night RAW or Ghost Hunters South America.
 
2011-08-09 12:13:43 PM  
simplicimus: RoosterCogburn: I never understood why networks can shows with guaranteed audiences. I understand it even less with smaller cable networks like SYFY. Wouldn't it make sense to just order a half season and run an alternate show in its timespot to see if it can do any better/worse before killing it off and angering the viewers?

It's like these idiots are running off of woefully wrong, deceptive, or out of date theories for deciding which shows to keep, which to axe. In other words, the Fox model.

As with every evil in the world, I blame MBAs. Once upon a time, networks would allow a show to live long enough to grow an audience. Do you think that MASH, All in the Family, Designing Women, Scrubs were all home runs at the start? No. And Star Trek went from a failed TV show to a cultural icon.


Not just MBS's, but modern consumerism (we ain't capitalist anymore). If it can't be in the black quarterly, and it can't be grown quarter to quarter, it's a failure in American eyes. You literally are a failure if you bring in a steady stream of revenue, instead of increasing profit margins.
 
2011-08-09 12:14:53 PM  
Dear Directv,
it turns out i don't need syfy any more please remove it.
Sincerely,
L Stool.
 
2011-08-09 12:27:38 PM  
You know what's changed in Eureka? Colin Ferguson wears a shirt a lot more often than he did in earlier episodes. As a protest, I suggest they film him shirtless in every scene. And pantless.

images2.fanpop.com
 
2011-08-09 12:34:34 PM  
All I know is that for the very last scene in the final episode they have to have Carter
and Zoe driving out of town in a rainstorm, and have them pass an identical car coming
into town and Zoe has to wave to the occupants.

Who are the younger versions of Carter and Zoe from the original pilot.
 
2011-08-09 12:35:07 PM  

MDGeist: "WTF Indeed

It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad."

How can any one hate Warehouse 13? It's the only good show on TV these days!


The pilot I saw for it was...not good.

I've seen one or two episodes since and it looks like the show may have gotten better, but based on the early stuff I saw I can definitely see why people would hate it.
 
2011-08-09 12:37:04 PM  

Super_pope: I watched a little of it last night. I actually started YELLING at it about half way through because so many things were just NOT what would happen.

"We devised an intricate way to get in and get out, then nobody thought to fabricate evidence or lay down a cover story so everything could be blown by A PHONE CALL. We're smart enough to drive someone with brain implants, but not smart enough to hijack a hospital switchboard."

and later:

"SHOOT THE CHOPPER. SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER! THEY HAVE YOU RUNNING AROUND WITH ONE OF THE PROP GUNS THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE SPACE SHIP IN MEN IN BLACK. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYONE ON THE CHOPPER, YOUR EX-MILITARY, AND YOUR ENEMIES ARE ESCAPING! SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER DOWN! fark!"


The week before I was yelling JUST BECAUSE YOU LOSE MASS DOESN'T MEAN YOU RIP OUT OF THE GROUND AND FLOAT AWAY
 
2011-08-09 12:42:45 PM  
I don't get the 'time travel sucks' meme. Talk about the best done time travel arc in recent memory.

shiat didn't get fixed. The universe stayed different. They've not done that in a series ever. Ever alternate universe show did some kind of reboot right at the end to bring it all back to normal.

They didn't. That was different, and fun.

While they have overdone the freak of the week thing, they keep it light, fresh, funny and not funny. Stark's departure was spectacular. I was hoping for some kind of stark come back because hey, universe changed.

I just deleted all 8 episodes of Alphas. I hadn't started it yet, as I don't have time. However siffy can screw itself I'm no longer watching new shows on that channel. Warehouse 13 is it. That list of cancelled shows is perfect example of them driving the nerds away. fark them, I'll watch BBCAmerica. They have more sci-fi that siffy does.
 
2011-08-09 01:02:54 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: All I know is that for the very last scene in the final episode they have to have Carter
and Zoe driving out of town in a rainstorm, and have them pass an identical car coming
into town and Zoe has to wave to the occupants.

Who are the younger versions of Carter and Zoe from the original pilot.


That would be the perfect ending. However, with all the other time travel and alternate universe things and the campy nature of the show they will just go with some wide shot of Eureka or Carter at his desk. Also, the main plot of this half of the season is about the Astreus mission and that big things would happen. Sounds more like the show would end with a cliff hanger and piss even more people off.

As an aside, Eureka had a great premise but I think they went too fast into being campy and ridiculous. Go back and watch the first episode of Eureka. The problem they faced seemed to actually matter and had serious consequences. Carter, while completely new to everything, was not a complete idiot and could actually help without sounding goofy. The show lost track when they started having every episode be about something that would destroy the town/planet. That led to running out of stories which led to the time travel plot to reset a bunch of stuff to make new stories and once you go there you are basically done.
 
2011-08-09 01:05:18 PM  
All the SyFy official BS means is that they don't want to spend the money any longer and will most certainly replace it with Ghost Hunters Intergalactic or some other cheap, stupid shiat. They had a good batch of series with Caprica, SGU, Eureka, Warehouse 13, and Haven, but I'm sure they'll fark it all up in the end. 3 down. 2 to go.
 
2011-08-09 01:05:32 PM  
Hmmm... Felicia Day is shooting the last few episodes. Was also in last few episodes of Buffy, and last episode of Dollhouse.

Coincidence or show killer?
 
2011-08-09 01:10:17 PM  

tboucher: Super_pope: I watched a little of it last night. I actually started YELLING at it about half way through because so many things were just NOT what would happen.

"We devised an intricate way to get in and get out, then nobody thought to fabricate evidence or lay down a cover story so everything could be blown by A PHONE CALL. We're smart enough to drive someone with brain implants, but not smart enough to hijack a hospital switchboard."

and later:

"SHOOT THE CHOPPER. SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER! THEY HAVE YOU RUNNING AROUND WITH ONE OF THE PROP GUNS THAT BROUGHT DOWN THE SPACE SHIP IN MEN IN BLACK. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYONE ON THE CHOPPER, YOUR EX-MILITARY, AND YOUR ENEMIES ARE ESCAPING! SHOOT THE farkING CHOPPER DOWN! fark!"

The week before I was yelling JUST BECAUSE YOU LOSE MASS DOESN'T MEAN YOU RIP OUT OF THE GROUND AND FLOAT AWAY


No, losing mass would make a very large crater. And no survivors.
 
2011-08-09 01:10:50 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Stopped watching when They started dicking with Hulu and stretching out the timeline.
 
2011-08-09 01:18:57 PM  

Sliding Carp: No loss, once it quit being the light entertainment gimmick of the week, and went to full-on all soap opera all the time.

I hope Grayston and Cerra keep getting work, though.


Correct. It did get soap opera-y and the whole reboot timeline oops lets start over was a bit transparent and lame.

/Still watched it though
 
2011-08-09 01:21:07 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: All I know is that for the very last scene in the final episode they have to have Carter
and Zoe driving out of town in a rainstorm, and have them pass an identical car coming
into town and Zoe has to wave to the occupants.

Who are the younger versions of Carter and Zoe from the original pilot.


And toss them an orchid and tell them it's pretty tough in there
 
2011-08-09 01:24:36 PM  

Penny_Ante: I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person watching Haven.
Because it's really quite good.


We're watching it.

/came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2011-08-09 01:26:30 PM  

ActionJoe:
As an aside, Eureka had a great premise but I think they went too fast into being campy and ridiculous. Go back and watch the first episode of Eureka. The problem they faced seemed to actually matter and had serious consequences. Carter, while completely new to everything, was not a complete idiot and could actually help without sounding goofy. The show lost track when they started having every episode be about something that would destroy the town/planet. That led to running out of stories which led to the time travel plot to reset a bunch of stuff to make new stories and once you go there you are basically done.


What's happened to Carter's character over the series is terrible. He started out as an average layman with common sense who was able to come up with solutions that the scientists missed because they were overthinking things. Now he's either an idiot savant who stumbles onto the solution by chance, or simply an idiot who happens to be the only one willing to risk himself to pull off the solution the scientists come up with. I only blame the writers, though. The actor does an awesome job with the character and I hope he gets some good gigs after the show is done.

I also agree with the scope of the problem-of-the-week being much better in the beginning. I might have to go back and re-watch some season 1 episodes, but you're right in that the problems used to just be some random mystery that was investigated each week. Now it's turned into doomsday every week.
 
2011-08-09 01:31:21 PM  

NeoCortex42: ActionJoe:
As an aside, Eureka had a great premise but I think they went too fast into being campy and ridiculous. Go back and watch the first episode of Eureka. The problem they faced seemed to actually matter and had serious consequences. Carter, while completely new to everything, was not a complete idiot and could actually help without sounding goofy. The show lost track when they started having every episode be about something that would destroy the town/planet. That led to running out of stories which led to the time travel plot to reset a bunch of stuff to make new stories and once you go there you are basically done.

What's happened to Carter's character over the series is terrible. He started out as an average layman with common sense who was able to come up with solutions that the scientists missed because they were overthinking things. Now he's either an idiot savant who stumbles onto the solution by chance, or simply an idiot who happens to be the only one willing to risk himself to pull off the solution the scientists come up with. I only blame the writers, though. The actor does an awesome job with the character and I hope he gets some good gigs after the show is done.


Well said. That's why I stopped watching Eureka after the first two seasons. He went from "straight guy" to "dork ex machina" pretty quickly.

I also agree with the scope of the problem-of-the-week being much better in the beginning. I might have to go back and re-watch some season 1 episodes, but you're right in that the problems used to just be some random mystery that was investigated each week. Now it's turned into doomsday every week.

Yep. I can understand why Eureka was cancelled, but without something better than that to replace it, I still have to lament SyFy's decision. There's precious little watchable SF on that channel, thanks to NBC Universal, and to see even the crappy stuff get cancelled is sad.
 
2011-08-09 01:36:30 PM  
So that leaves them with exactly 2 hours a week of programing that i watch, warehouse 13 and haven.

Which is a heluva lot less than the other handful of networks i watch, USA, FX...

Damnit, i want to support Sci-Fi on television, to the point that i actually watched The Event and V, crapfests that they were... Whats left? Falling Skies, thats mediocre at least. And theres still Fringe and that new dinosaur one on fox.

So weve got one actual sci-fi show

Falling Skies

A handful of spooky/supernatural/xfiles type stuff.

Alphas
Warehouse 13
Fringe
Sanctuary

A bunch of strictly supernatural horror shows, but those mostly run more into the teen drama, not particularly targeted at a nerd audience...

Walking Dead
True Blood
Being Human
My Babysitter's a Vampire
The Vampire Diaries
Teen Wolf

And one fantasy show

Game of Thrones

Not counting Doctor Who, Torchwood, Primeval, Merlin etc obviously, but are there any American Sci-Fi tv shows i'm missing?

/damn i miss the 90s/early 00s, i want spaceships and aliens and lasers damnit
//tv i am dissapoint
 
2011-08-09 01:49:43 PM  

Browncoat: I hope the programming heads all get syfylus and die.


*snyrt*
 
2011-08-09 01:51:14 PM  

Cyno01: So that leaves them with exactly 2 hours a week of programing that i watch, warehouse 13 and haven.

Which is a heluva lot less than the other handful of networks i watch, USA, FX...

Damnit, i want to support Sci-Fi on television, to the point that i actually watched The Event and V, crapfests that they were... Whats left? Falling Skies, thats mediocre at least. And theres still Fringe and that new dinosaur one on fox.

So weve got one actual sci-fi show

Falling Skies

A handful of spooky/supernatural/xfiles type stuff.

Alphas
Warehouse 13
Fringe
Sanctuary

A bunch of strictly supernatural horror shows, but those mostly run more into the teen drama, not particularly targeted at a nerd audience...

Walking Dead
True Blood
Being Human
My Babysitter's a Vampire
The Vampire Diaries
Teen Wolf

And one fantasy show

Game of Thrones

Not counting Doctor Who, Torchwood, Primeval, Merlin etc obviously, but are there any American Sci-Fi tv shows i'm missing?

/damn i miss the 90s/early 00s, i want spaceships and aliens and lasers damnit
//tv i am dissapoint


You missed the biggest supernatural show on TV, Supernatural. Going on it's 7th season. It's really good, get it from the beginning.
 
2011-08-09 01:59:23 PM  

Cyno01:

A bunch of strictly supernatural horror shows, but those mostly run more into the teen drama, not particularly targeted at a nerd audience...

Walking Dead
True Blood
Being Human
My Babysitter's a Vampire
The Vampire Diaries
Teen Wolf


Don't know if you can lump Walking Dead in with those others. It's not supernatural in the least, and it definitely isn't angsty teen drama. It's also not perfect, but it dang sure ain't Twilight TV.

www.zombiediary.com

See? No sparkles...
 
2011-08-09 02:11:03 PM  
This must be my fault. I just started watching the series on Netflix... Most of the cool things go away once I start getting involved.

I'm thinking of trying planking and owling next, just so they will die quickly and, hopefully, painfully.
 
2011-08-09 02:11:54 PM  

Md37: You missed the biggest supernatural show on TV, Supernatural. Going on it's 7th season. It's really good, get it from the beginning.


Ok, so one i missed.

amd1433: Don't know if you can lump Walking Dead in with those others. It's not supernatural in the least, and it definitely isn't angsty teen drama. It's also not perfect, but it dang sure ain't Twilight TV.

[www.zombiediary.com image 340x236]

See? No sparkles...


I said mostly, Walking Dead is definitly an asterisk on that portion of the list, its just that zombies/vampires/werewolves are generally classified together.
 
F42
2011-08-09 02:15:56 PM  

sleeping martyr: "Sheriff Jack Carter never made it home"


I guffawed.
 
F42
2011-08-09 02:18:47 PM  

fusillade762: Soon SyFy will be SyFyLess.


That. is. perfect.
 
2011-08-09 02:21:48 PM  

Lochsteppe: Browncoat: I hope the programming heads all get syfylus and die.

*snyrt*


dybble snyrt.
 
2011-08-09 02:34:34 PM  

F42: sleeping martyr: "Sheriff Jack Carter never made it home"

I guffawed.


With all of the cameos and guest actors they've had lately (Felicia, Wil, and Stan Lee to name a few), they should totally get Scott Bakula on for an episode. They should even be able to reference Quantum Leap since it's an NBC Universal show. It's not like he's got much else going on lately.
 
2011-08-09 02:41:31 PM  
Isn't Scott Bakula one of the "Men of a Certain Age" - never watched it but i seem to recall him from promos.

Nathan Stark leaving was a big hit, but as far as SciFi (not syfy) Eureka was still top of my list. couldn't get into Haven so that leaves only Warehouse 13 on that station.

More Jack sans shirt and Zane with the intense workouts would take away some of the pain of the final episodes.
 
2011-08-09 02:53:05 PM  

knoxvelour: so this means Wheaton is unemployed again?


He always has his Leverage character to fall back on. True, Chaos is in prison, but the guy is a computer genius. Surely, he can find a way out.
 
2011-08-09 03:01:07 PM  
I will miss Jo Jo

i270.photobucket.com

Anyone else notice her rather full bottom while guesting on Warehouse 13?? Delicious!!
 
2011-08-09 03:30:46 PM  

pstawicki: I will miss Jo Jo

[i270.photobucket.com image 480x603]

Anyone else notice her rather full bottom while guesting on Warehouse 13?? Delicious!!


When was she on W13?
 
2011-08-09 03:37:09 PM  
images.cheezburger.com
 
2011-08-09 03:44:53 PM  

TyrantII: Torchwood is pretty good though. Walking Dead is excellence so far. But really, the only good TV besides that is on HBO (minus True Blood, which has totally jumped the shark)


Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, and Justified would like a word with you. All three are very solid shows not on HBO.

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What are three solid shows that are not on HBO, Alex?
 
2011-08-09 03:49:17 PM  

Time Traveling Bunnies: pstawicki: I will miss Jo Jo

[i270.photobucket.com image 480x603]

Anyone else notice her rather full bottom while guesting on Warehouse 13?? Delicious!!

When was she on W13?


Season 1 Episode 8 - Episode "Duped" with Lewis Carrolls mirror. Myka looks rather incredible that episode as well.
 
2011-08-09 03:56:05 PM  

pstawicki: Time Traveling Bunnies: pstawicki: I will miss Jo Jo

[i270.photobucket.com image 480x603]

Anyone else notice her rather full bottom while guesting on Warehouse 13?? Delicious!!

When was she on W13?

Season 1 Episode 8 - Episode "Duped" with Lewis Carrolls mirror. Myka looks rather incredible that episode as well.


She was also topless and sucking on another woman's tits during a 3 episode stint on "The L Word" a few years back. It's a little difficult to tell it's her, but here's the link:

People, this is absolutely NSFW. (new window) Erica Cerra is not the woman at the beginning of the clip. She's the topless woman who carries in the wine glasses and then ties up the first lady.
 
2011-08-09 03:58:06 PM  

pstawicki: Season 1 Episode 8 - Episode "Duped" with Lewis Carrolls mirror. Myka looks rather incredible that episode as well.


Huh. Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to go back and watch my old downlo..... i mean, my old Amazon Instant Purchases. Yeah, that's what I meant.
 
2011-08-09 04:01:40 PM  

Tommy_04: [images.cheezburger.com image 500x375]


Hey, I heard you like Sci-Fi in your SyFy

So I cancelled all of it.
 
2011-08-09 04:03:47 PM  

simplicimus: MDGeist: "WTF Indeed

It's worse then Warehouse 13 bad."

How can any one hate Warehouse 13? It's the only good show on TV these days!

Easy to hate. Hey guys, let's throw X-Files and the Friday the 13 tv shows into the blender and see what we pour out?
Fringe is pretty good. Different network, but still.


So, a show sucks because it's derivative of past shows? Doesn't matter about story, or characters, or actors... it looks like other shows, so it sucks?

Bet you read a lot of Shakespeare.
 
2011-08-09 04:10:49 PM  

Hebalo: Hmmm... Felicia Day is shooting the last few episodes. Was also in last few episodes of Buffy, and last episode of Dollhouse.

Coincidence or show killer?


Let's get her on "Glee" and "Two and a Half Men" and see.
 
2011-08-09 04:18:22 PM  
If you still watch SyFy and/or subscribe to any sort of TV (cable or satellite) you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
 
2011-08-09 04:29:34 PM  
Last season did get on my nerves, but they have brought it back to a better show than it was ever before with this season. Gonna be sad to see it go.
 
2011-08-09 04:34:26 PM  
I just don't understand SyFy's logic on this shiat.

Ok, we have a great show that costs us money to produce, and we're not making a profit on it. So we'll produce a cheaper show that is not nearly as good, in return no one will watch it, our advertising revenue will drop, and we'll end up losing money making that on too. So then what we'll do is produce an EVEN CHEAPER show that is absolute shiat, have no viewers, no advertising, and sell the entire network for pennies on the dollar where Oprah will buy it and turn it into some channel with made for TV movies about abusive spouses.

Excellent farking business model. Let me step right up and give you a loan since it sounds like the bullshiat plans that the banks have been tossing money at for years.
 
2011-08-09 04:36:30 PM  

Bendal: ArmyCop: Abner Doon:
Those ghost shows are just a few unknown losers, a camera (preferable crappy), some jackass to make noises off camera and an old house. They probably cost about $10 per episode. Eureka has actual writing, effects, real actors, etc. All that stuff costs a good deal of money.
.

I take umbrage at the assertion that the TAPS guys are unknown losers.

They are from just up the street from where I grew up, and they are very well known locally.


...as the guys who ruined the SciFi channel.

To be honest, the SciFi channel was going under long before the plethora of Ghost Hunter shows started appearing on it. I'm finding myself more interested in the Destination Truth shows than the GH ones now; at least the DT teams go to oddball places around the world. Last season's investigation of an outpost in Antarctica by the DT crew was well done IMO.


I watch that show just waiting for the day they get horendously attacked in the wild by some known animal. Gonna be hilarious. Aside from that Antarctica ep though, they generally suck at their jobs. Wow, you guys spent a whole night in some place just hoping to find something and you didn't? Shocking.
 
2011-08-09 04:37:59 PM  

Trackball: If you still watch SyFy and/or subscribe to any sort of TV (cable or satellite) you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.


Yes, because good shows would still get made if everyone stopped subscribing to cable or satellite, and only watched online where no ad revenue whatsoever can be collected to help fund the creation of shows.
 
2011-08-09 04:45:07 PM  

Trackball: If you still watch SyFy and/or subscribe to any sort of TV (cable or satellite) you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.


You, sir, are unaware that we need the problem to enjoy our solution. Dumbass.
 
2011-08-09 05:11:38 PM  
Fools, the entire series was just leading to that bit last week when the stuff was all floaty and they played the theme music. It was the prophesy come to lght.

(Spoiler) The military finally does their survey, and arrests 90% of the town for past offences or state secrets act. WH13 cleans up, Alphas takes care of any remaining looney scientists like Wil, desparatly barricadded inside GD to protect his banana slugs.

(/spoiler)

Should be good for at least a couple more destroyed Jeeps before the end. Love that running gag.
 
2011-08-09 05:29:36 PM  

Tommy_04: [images.cheezburger.com image 500x375]


You mean like G4 and what used to be its wall to wall game programming?

img.photobucket.com
 
2011-08-09 06:44:09 PM  

AgtSmithReloaded: simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.

Caprica wasn't even given a chance to survive; it's as if they wanted it to be cancelled so they did everything in their power to make it fail. First they put it on hiatus for nearly a year just as it was starting to grasp its core audience and show some ratings stability, then they bring it back with absolutely no advertising to announce its return AND they change its timeslot.

I know the haters will complain about the writing and how it wasn't as gripping as BSG, blah blah (which I completely disagree with on all levels). But even they have to admit that Syfy mismanaged the hell out of Caprica.


The biggest problem with Caprica is that a show about the creation of killer robots...SHOULD SHOW A LOT OF KILLER ROBOTS!!!!

I understand the philosophical angle behind it, but there was a serious lack of Cylons.
 
2011-08-09 07:01:37 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: AgtSmithReloaded: simplicimus: Underabridge: Did they shiatcan the next Battlestar Galactica series yet???

Next? Caprica died quickly. Problem with arc shows, B5, BSG, etc. Is that once the story is over, it's over. Crusade went down fast, as did Caprica.

Caprica wasn't even given a chance to survive; it's as if they wanted it to be cancelled so they did everything in their power to make it fail. First they put it on hiatus for nearly a year just as it was starting to grasp its core audience and show some ratings stability, then they bring it back with absolutely no advertising to announce its return AND they change its timeslot.

I know the haters will complain about the writing and how it wasn't as gripping as BSG, blah blah (which I completely disagree with on all levels). But even they have to admit that Syfy mismanaged the hell out of Caprica.

The biggest problem with Caprica is that a show about the creation of killer robots...SHOULD SHOW A LOT OF KILLER ROBOTS!!!!

I understand the philosophical angle behind it, but there was a serious lack of Cylons.


It did have a few things going for it.

www.forkparty.com

/dont care that she was playing a 15 year old
 
2011-08-09 07:31:09 PM  

SlashW: Isn't Scott Bakula one of the "Men of a Certain Age" - never watched it but i seem to recall him from promos.

Nathan Stark leaving was a big hit, but as far as SciFi (not syfy) Eureka was still top of my list. couldn't get into Haven so that leaves only Warehouse 13 on that station.

More Jack sans shirt and Zane with the intense workouts would take away some of the pain of the final episodes.


I would love for them to have a "Retro Corssover" of Scott Bakula's character from Quantum Leap.....

Men of A Certain Age is a pretty sweet show. he does a great job.
 
2011-08-09 08:06:00 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: SlashW: Isn't Scott Bakula one of the "Men of a Certain Age" - never watched it but i seem to recall him from promos.

Nathan Stark leaving was a big hit, but as far as SciFi (not syfy) Eureka was still top of my list. couldn't get into Haven so that leaves only Warehouse 13 on that station.

More Jack sans shirt and Zane with the intense workouts would take away some of the pain of the final episodes.

I would love for them to have a "Retro Corssover" of Scott Bakula's character from Quantum Leap.....

Men of A Certain Age is a pretty sweet show. he does a great job.


I noticed that with this week's episode of Alphas, they've now connected Alphas, Eureka, and Warehouse 13 to all exist in the same continuity. Might as well connect in Quantum Leap, or even Stargate at this point.
 
2011-08-09 08:35:59 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: SlashW: Isn't Scott Bakula one of the "Men of a Certain Age" - never watched it but i seem to recall him from promos.

Nathan Stark leaving was a big hit, but as far as SciFi (not syfy) Eureka was still top of my list. couldn't get into Haven so that leaves only Warehouse 13 on that station.

More Jack sans shirt and Zane with the intense workouts would take away some of the pain of the final episodes.

I would love for them to have a "Retro Corssover" of Scott Bakula's character from Quantum Leap.....

Men of A Certain Age is a pretty sweet show. he does a great job.


Also canceled.
 
2011-08-09 09:06:56 PM  
30.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-08-09 09:22:34 PM  
Lsherm: TyrantII: Torchwood is pretty good though. Walking Dead is excellence so far. But really, the only good TV besides that is on HBO (minus True Blood, which has totally jumped the shark)

Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, and Justified would like a word with you. All three are very solid shows not on HBO.

[img683.imageshack.us image 500x649]
What are three solid shows that are not on HBO, Alex?


Thats fine, but I was trying to stick to sci-fi/fantasy, and I figure HBO is the only one left that could do it right. Maybe AMC, but their budget is worse then sypy.
 
2011-08-09 09:27:22 PM  

TyrantII: Lsherm: TyrantII: Torchwood is pretty good though. Walking Dead is excellence so far. But really, the only good TV besides that is on HBO (minus True Blood, which has totally jumped the shark)

Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, and Justified would like a word with you. All three are very solid shows not on HBO.

[img683.imageshack.us image 500x649]
What are three solid shows that are not on HBO, Alex?

Thats fine, but I was trying to stick to sci-fi/fantasy, and I figure HBO is the only one left that could do it right. Maybe AMC, but their budget is worse then sypy.


See my list upthread. Theres almost nothing left...
 
2011-08-09 10:37:56 PM  
damn i actually liked this show. and i have Wil in my circles over on google+ so his post about it being canceled was the first i seen of it. sad when a network doesn't air programming of any sort related to the name of said network. I guess we can look forward to more campy movies starring washed up 80's pop stars fighting animals that have been altered because of steroids or toxic spills. syfy will go the way of techtv. I mean hell what does that network show other than cops reruns, cops show ripoffs, cheaters and oh lets throw in morgan webb here and there.
 
2011-08-09 10:54:31 PM  

ActionJoe: DjangoStonereaver: All I know is that for the very last scene in the final episode they have to have Carter
and Zoe driving out of town in a rainstorm, and have them pass an identical car coming
into town and Zoe has to wave to the occupants.

Who are the younger versions of Carter and Zoe from the original pilot.

That would be the perfect ending. However, with all the other time travel and alternate universe things and the campy nature of the show they will just go with some wide shot of Eureka or Carter at his desk. Also, the main plot of this half of the season is about the Astreus mission and that big things would happen. Sounds more like the show would end with a cliff hanger and piss even more people off.

As an aside, Eureka had a great premise but I think they went too fast into being campy and ridiculous. Go back and watch the first episode of Eureka. The problem they faced seemed to actually matter and had serious consequences. Carter, while completely new to everything, was not a complete idiot and could actually help without sounding goofy. The show lost track when they started having every episode be about something that would destroy the town/planet. That led to running out of stories which led to the time travel plot to reset a bunch of stuff to make new stories and once you go there you are basically done.


How the hell did they run out of stories? I mean Doctor Who has been more or less doing exactly what you described for at least 50 years now.
 
2011-08-09 11:36:07 PM  

ms_lara_croft: "Eureka" sucked. I want to see more real science fiction like wrestling and catfights between Tiffany and Debbie Gibson.


Well-played.
 
2011-08-09 11:46:05 PM  
I like Alphas, mainly because of David Straihairn and the autistic guy.

Paranormal woo-woo aside, the autistic guy is fairly true to life. I am guessing one of the show's writers must have a close family member on the spectrum.

There was an episode where Gary was saying "If I do XYZ, I get to drive the car!" and nobody agrees to it, but he expects to drive the car anyway. I know an autistic kid who frequently makes one-sided deals in a similar fashion. And being a rigid tyrant to his mom - yeah, that's autism in a nutshell.
 
2011-08-09 11:56:10 PM  

TyrantII: Sultan Of Herf: Falling Skies FTW. Pretty sad when TNT has better scifi than the station (that used to be) dedicated to scifi.

That show sucks too. Big time sucks. Like, "I can't believe people had the nerve to pan "war of the worlds", yet says this is a good series" sucks.


Yeah, Falling Skies blows. It could just be that I've been watching some really fantastic TV lately (Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Justified, GOT) , but I find Falling Skies to be one of the most boring, generic shows on TV. It's like the Sci-Fi version of Two and a Half Men. You always know what's going to happen next, so what's the point of watching?
 
2011-08-10 01:29:58 AM  

burning_bridge: Well its a good thing they still have those ghost shows. I mean, how could you possible not love those?

Scene: Nerds in an old building at night with grainy cameras. A creak is heard in the distance.
Nerd: "What was that?"
Silence while nerds stare off into the distance.

And just when you think it couldn't get more awesome, they made it international!

Scene: Foreign nerds in an older building at night with grainy cameras. A creak is heard in the distance.
Foreign Nerd: "Was ist das?"
Silence while foreign nerds stare off into the distance.

RIVETING!


I watched one of those for about 5-10 minutes once. How f*cking stupid do you have to be to think that's the least bit entertaining? Jesus, it makes Jersey Shore look like a Merchant-Ivory film.
 
2011-08-10 01:47:08 AM  
OtherLittleGuy:
Don't worry. It'll be picked up by BBC America.

/new Who on the 27th!


Even they fark that up by cutting scene after scene out of the series to make room for more advertising. The real horror though was the hack job they did on Clash of the Titans
 
2011-08-10 03:08:41 AM  
Godfarkingdamnit. Could they PLEASE just capture a random hobo and let them run things instead of Bonnie Hammer? There is no way that could possibly lead to stupider decisions, and you could pay them all in box wine. In fact letting that psychic octopus crawl over boxes would probably lead to better programming. Seriously how can you fail to figure out that you want to keep your higher rated shows while canceling shows that don't make money. Seriously I have never wanted to run over another human being with a car more than Bonnie Hammer.

And I will go against the grain here and I say that I like Alphas and it is growing on me. The first few episodes were very awkward with the characters not meshing together well, but like earlier poster I love David Stathairn (the doc) and Ryan Cartwright (the autistic guy). Ryan's acting is especially impressive, he manages to do more than just play the condition, you can see that Gary has this whole distinct personality and individuality through which the symptoms of autism are projected, and it's this very neat and compelling and complex personality. So, while the show is still very uneven I hope it eventually gels and the writers figure out how best to utilize the different actors, because in this one some of the action/there to be hot characters are the weakest actors. This is a show that will be made or broken by the writing and I hope they decide to take some risks and do something interesting with it. It's frustrating because I can see potential there, but I have no idea if it will be drawn out.

However, that being said, this does make me wonder how soon the channel is from just being run into the ground. I know there has been a ton of feedback the channel has been getting about what fans what and how not to screw things up by doing simple things like not airing your programs at stupid times when they would obviously get crushed and then not moving times around 5 zillion times and then randomly canceling stuff. Honestly, I wish there was some way a rich nerd could just buy syfy and run it. There is money to be made there if you're not weapons-grade stupid.
 
2011-08-10 04:12:15 AM  

ambercat: Godfarkingdamnit. Could they PLEASE just capture a random hobo and let them run things instead of Bonnie Hammer? There is no way that could possibly lead to stupider decisions, and you could pay them all in box wine. In fact letting that psychic octopus crawl over boxes would probably lead to better programming. Seriously how can you fail to figure out that you want to keep your higher rated shows while canceling shows that don't make money. Seriously I have never wanted to run over another human being with a car more than Bonnie Hammer.


Actually, she doesn't directly run Syffy any longer. No, due to all the good work she did in destroying Sci-Fi, they bumped her up the ladder, so she runs the entirety of NBC/Universal's cable operations.
 
2011-08-10 04:57:59 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: ambercat: Godfarkingdamnit. Could they PLEASE just capture a random hobo and let them run things instead of Bonnie Hammer? There is no way that could possibly lead to stupider decisions, and you could pay them all in box wine. In fact letting that psychic octopus crawl over boxes would probably lead to better programming. Seriously how can you fail to figure out that you want to keep your higher rated shows while canceling shows that don't make money. Seriously I have never wanted to run over another human being with a car more than Bonnie Hammer.


Actually, she doesn't directly run Syffy any longer. No, due to all the good work she did in destroying Sci-Fi, they bumped her up the ladder, so she runs the entirety of NBC/Universal's cable operations.


Yeah I was gonna say this way upthread. She hasn't been running SyFy in over a year I think. But hey, you know when nerds get mad, half of them are probably still blaming Rick Berman for lousy Star Trek.

Nerds have habits.
 
2011-08-10 05:06:50 AM  

Confabulat: FirstNationalBastard: ambercat: Godfarkingdamnit. Could they PLEASE just capture a random hobo and let them run things instead of Bonnie Hammer? There is no way that could possibly lead to stupider decisions, and you could pay them all in box wine. In fact letting that psychic octopus crawl over boxes would probably lead to better programming. Seriously how can you fail to figure out that you want to keep your higher rated shows while canceling shows that don't make money. Seriously I have never wanted to run over another human being with a car more than Bonnie Hammer.


Actually, she doesn't directly run Syffy any longer. No, due to all the good work she did in destroying Sci-Fi, they bumped her up the ladder, so she runs the entirety of NBC/Universal's cable operations.

Yeah I was gonna say this way upthread. She hasn't been running SyFy in over a year I think. But hey, you know when nerds get mad, half of them are probably still blaming Rick Berman for lousy Star Trek.

Nerds have habits.


I was unaware of that. It makes a terrible kind of sense. I'll never understand why sucking at your job at the lower levels gets you fired, but sucking at your job at the higher levels gets you promoted.
 
2011-08-10 07:21:02 AM  
Eureka is barely science fiction to begin with. The show was just too cartoony, to the point where you literally have an episode where they meet Santa Claus and where they try to use technology to duplicate his equipment. That's just stupid. This isn't science fiction. This is the Jetsons.

Does the science in science fiction need to be 100% accurate? Of course not. But if you're going to do something ridiculous with the science, then you should have strong characters and story to make up for it. Eureka does neither. It's not really sciency enough for the science geeks, and it's not inspiring enough for the mainstream audience. So I'm not clear who this show is for.

Warehouse 13 is just annoying. Apparently, any historical figure on Earth has the ability to inadvertently create objects with mysterious supernatural powers without even trying. There will never be an explanation on how these objects work. And yet, the existence of these objects are completely secret, even though they're actually quite common. Makes no sense.
 
2011-08-10 07:44:27 AM  

burning_bridge: Well its a good thing they still have those ghost shows. I mean, how could you possible not love those?

Scene: Nerds in an old building at night with grainy cameras. A creak is heard in the distance.
Nerd: "What was that?"
Silence while nerds stare off into the distance.

And just when you think it couldn't get more awesome, they made it international!

Scene: Foreign nerds in an older building at night with grainy cameras. A creak is heard in the distance.
Foreign Nerd: "Was ist das?"
Silence while foreign nerds stare off into the distance.

RIVETING!


I liked the first few episodes of "Ghost Hunters" before the team moved to their new offices. Half the episodes were spent with Grant and Jay fighting with their wives about being away from home, especially with Jay and his wife having an infant. The plumber jokes were kinda funny sometimes. They reminded me of "Flashdance". Plumbers by day; ghost hunters by night. And the reactions to being spooked were funnier. Then they got all serious and I stopped watching. I guess once the SyFy money rolled in there were no more complaints from the peanut gallery.

/Still misses "Farscape".
 
2011-08-10 07:51:43 AM  

schrodinger: Eureka is barely science fiction to begin with. The show was just too cartoony, to the point where you literally have an episode where they meet Santa Claus and where they try to use technology to duplicate his equipment. That's just stupid. This isn't science fiction. This is the Jetsons.

Does the science in science fiction need to be 100% accurate? Of course not. But if you're going to do something ridiculous with the science, then you should have strong characters and story to make up for it. Eureka does neither. It's not really sciency enough for the science geeks, and it's not inspiring enough for the mainstream audience. So I'm not clear who this show is for.


It's made for people like me that like to watch fun shows and not for people that look for the impossible TV show to come on. If it were realistic, just about every scientific advance on the show would need a 10 season story arc to 1) describe it and 2) show just how long hard things really take to do. It would also take about 4,000 more characters involved in each project.

It's for entertainment, not education. I find the show highly entertaining regardless of how realistic it is.
 
2011-08-10 07:55:11 AM  

Penny_Ante: I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person watching Haven.
Because it's really quite good.


You're not the only one. We watch it too. I t reminds me of where I live, minus the murderous machines and evil twins and such.
 
2011-08-10 08:59:20 AM  
So this leaves me with Warehouse 13 and Haven left to watch now on this station...great. Guess I won't have to bother at all soon enough!
 
2011-08-10 09:10:56 AM  

Confabulat: FirstNationalBastard: ambercat: Godfarkingdamnit. Could they PLEASE just capture a random hobo and let them run things instead of Bonnie Hammer? There is no way that could possibly lead to stupider decisions, and you could pay them all in box wine. In fact letting that psychic octopus crawl over boxes would probably lead to better programming. Seriously how can you fail to figure out that you want to keep your higher rated shows while canceling shows that don't make money. Seriously I have never wanted to run over another human being with a car more than Bonnie Hammer.


Actually, she doesn't directly run Syffy any longer. No, due to all the good work she did in destroying Sci-Fi, they bumped her up the ladder, so she runs the entirety of NBC/Universal's cable operations.

Yeah I was gonna say this way upthread. She hasn't been running SyFy in over a year I think. But hey, you know when nerds get mad, half of them are probably still blaming Rick Berman for lousy Star Trek.

Nerds have habits.


I thought Braga was responsible for the decline of the Star Trek universe?

So that means we can count on her to ruin the slate of decent USA shows soon too? I am surprised she didn't cancel Burn Notice since it has been on for 6 years now and has a budget at least double Eureka, since they film in Miami. When it comes to TV exec, NBC has been on a run of crappy leadership. The bottom line is all that matters anymore which is why longer running, more expensive shows, are probably going to be targeted.
 
2011-08-10 10:08:35 AM  
im surprised Disney isn't going to roll out a geek channel with all the IP & deals they have (Marvel, Lucasarts, etc.)

Then again, there probably isn't any money in it because the nerds all get everything off bittorrent and then wonder why it gets canceled.
 
2011-08-10 10:48:01 AM  
If I ran SyFy, this is how i'd save it:

Change the damn name back to Sci-Fi

Stop making those sh*tty ___ vs. ___ movies

Pick up V and No Ordinary Family.

Bring back Sarah Conner, Firefly, The 4400, Sliders, Kyle XY, Caprica and Dollhouse. Give them one more season to wrap up everything.

Get rid of Ghost Hunters and wrestling.

Bring back Star Trek: TNG and DS9 reruns. Ditto with MST3K, the Outer Limits and the Twilight Zone.

Put Bonnie Hammer and her lackeys on a rocket to the Sun.
 
2011-08-10 01:37:28 PM  
If they are going to show Twilight Zone reruns all the time why cant they show Sliders, Space: Above and Beyond, B5 reruns?
 
2011-08-10 02:56:58 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: If I ran SyFy, this is how i'd save it:

Change the damn name back to Sci-Fi

Stop making those sh*tty ___ vs. ___ movies

Pick up V and No Ordinary Family.

Bring back Sarah Conner, Firefly, The 4400, Sliders, Kyle XY, Caprica and Dollhouse. Give them one more season to wrap up everything.

Get rid of Ghost Hunters and wrestling.

Bring back Star Trek: TNG and DS9 reruns. Ditto with MST3K, the Outer Limits and the Twilight Zone.

Put Bonnie Hammer and her lackeys on a rocket to the Sun.


Kyle XY? Really? With Keanu Jr?
 
2011-08-10 03:51:08 PM  
You know what I really want?

HBO to do a Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion mini over the course of 5-10 episode/ 2 season.

Might need a little better character development than the books, but the story is pretty powerful, lots of action sequences, and a really interesting take on the future of humanity, technology, and God.

They'd have to go all in though, because it require a AAA budget from the get go, which means it won't happen.
 
2011-08-10 03:58:12 PM  

otterly_delicious: If they are going to show Twilight Zone reruns all the time why cant they show Sliders, Space: Above and Beyond, B5 reruns?


Sorry but no one is going to be showing reruns of B5. Hell they are still asking 60 bucks a season for the DVDs. Someone has rights to that show and they ain't cheap.
 
2011-08-10 05:11:56 PM  
Too bad, it's a fun show. They'll let Warehouse 13 linger on for a while, and then cancel it too, and then there will be almost No Sci-fi on Scyfy.
 
2011-08-10 05:35:39 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: /new Who on the 27th!


Actually, I have it on pretty good authority that Who's on 1st.
www.sitcomsonline.com
 
2011-08-10 06:36:41 PM  
The show's creator just tweeted that they're giving him one more episode, so he can make a proper finale.
 
2011-08-10 07:12:11 PM  

nukeim: schrodinger: Eureka is barely science fiction to begin with. The show was just too cartoony, to the point where you literally have an episode where they meet Santa Claus and where they try to use technology to duplicate his equipment. That's just stupid. This isn't science fiction. This is the Jetsons.

Does the science in science fiction need to be 100% accurate? Of course not. But if you're going to do something ridiculous with the science, then you should have strong characters and story to make up for it. Eureka does neither. It's not really sciency enough for the science geeks, and it's not inspiring enough for the mainstream audience. So I'm not clear who this show is for.

It's for entertainment, not education. I find the show highly entertaining regardless of how realistic it is.


Point flew right over your head, I guess.

Doctor Who has ridiculous science. But no one really cares because the characters and stories are really strong, and the science is really imaginative. The idea of aliens that cause you to forget them the moment they're not being observed doesn't make any scientific sense, but the concept is so compelling that you watch it anyway.

Eureka doesn't have that. They do things like "we have compressed water that essentially acts like a bag of holding, and can store infinite quantities of water."
 
2011-08-11 04:13:31 AM  

schrodinger: Eureka doesn't have that. They do things like "we have compressed water that essentially acts like a bag of holding, and can store infinite quantities of water."


Why I look back on these threads I'll never know, but what you've just written there, and I've seen the episode, is nothing but classic sci-fi. BTW, it was simply highly compressed water and the concept was described. Eureka is one of the most sci-fi of the SyFy shows. Sure, it's campy, but that has absolutely nothing to do with its sci-fi-ness.
 
2011-08-11 05:27:06 PM  

nukeim: It's made for people like me that like to watch fun shows and not for people that look for the impossible TV show to come on. If it were realistic, just about every scientific advance on the show would need a 10 season story arc to 1) describe it and 2) show just how long hard things really take to do. It would also take about 4,000 more characters involved in each project.

It's for entertainment, not education. I find the show highly entertaining regardless of how realistic it is.



Amen.
I'll add this, too: I think Colin Ferguson(Sheriff Carter) is very underrated as a physical comic actor. Some of the stuff he's done is nothing short of fall down(no pun intended) funny.
 
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