If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Daily Mail)   Jackie O believed that LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, not the FBI, CIA, or KGB. Wow, did I really just use that many acronyms?   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 177
    More: Interesting, Jackie, Jackie O, LBJ, JFK, CIA, KGB, Caroline Kennedy, FBI  
•       •       •

12184 clicks; posted to Main » on 08 Aug 2011 at 1:35 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



177 Comments   (+0 »)
   

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all
 
2011-08-08 03:40:42 PM
When will the lieberturd denialists just admit that LBJ had him whacked then got rid of Bobby as Attorney General in less than a year after stripping him of control of the FBI not that he had much to begin with given J. Edgar Hoover's dossiers on him and Jack and then had him whacked in 1968 when he was running and it was obvious he was going to win the presidency. I'm of the opinion that had Bobby become president and the truth about the Dallas machine had come out along with the mob/democrat political machines running Kansas City during Truman's presidency there wouldn't be a democrat party today. No real American would identify themselves as a democrat anymore than they would a nazi.
 
2011-08-08 03:41:19 PM
Pfftttt.. Everyone knows it was the bullet that killed him.
 
2011-08-08 03:41:48 PM
Oh good, a JFK conspiracy thread! Just what I needed for some laughs. Quick, let me know if the current conspiracy theory du jour references the Illuminati, Rothschilds, or the International Banking Cartel.

I know it's hard to believe that life is random and that some people do crazy and frightening shiat for no other reason than because they can, but that's really how it is. Lee Harvey Oswald killed the President, for reasons we still don't know. Maybe we shouldn't know. It would be torture to comb through speeches or appearances he made, where he said whatever it was he said that set Oswald off, then curse the sky for the fact he said it.

Robert Dalek made the comment that the reason people believe in conspiracy is because no one wants to think that one man can bring down the leader of the free world. Think of a scale. Put JFK's death on one side and Oswald on the other. It doesn't seem to match. You almost feel compelled to throw more names in there with Oswald, because it would invest Kennedy's death with importance, it would mean he died for something bigger than himself, or the country. So on that note, I can understand why people believe in conspiracy, but that doesn't mean I think they're operating on this plane of existence when they do it.
 
2011-08-08 03:42:05 PM
Oh come on, that's silly; Grables'Daughter wasn't even alive at the time of JFK's assassination!
 
2011-08-08 03:44:40 PM
"This is so nuts. I mean, listen - listen to what you're saying. It's paranoid delusion. How - It's really sad. It's pathetic."
 
2011-08-08 03:45:09 PM
It was an inside job. JFK had already declared his intentions to pull out of Vietnam. Then what happens?

Kennedy gets shot, LBJ gets made and Vietnam continues for years.

Who profits off war? Follow the money.
 
2011-08-08 03:47:14 PM
LBJ killed Kennedy? That's ridiculous. LBJ was a enlightened good old boy from Texas. No way he'd assassinate the president for political reasons. Dumb!

\He'd only kill him if he caught Kennedy stupping his daughters or messing with his favorite cow.
\\Hmmm....
 
2011-08-08 03:47:29 PM
all smiles

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=kennedy+assassination,+lbj+smiling&um=1&hl=en&sa f e=off&client=firefox-a&hs=LOr&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbnid =C3XyKRviIXfCyM:&imgrefurl=http://www.scam.com/showthread.php%253Ft%253D45928&do cid=SasbNKu5oblZnM&w=632&h=358&ei=2DxATsa8Nqjw0gHwtoDYDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=102& vpy=89&dur=38&hovh=169&hovw=298&tx=190&ty=103&page=1&tbnh=75&tbnw=133&start=0&nd sp=15&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=960&bih=494
 
2011-08-08 03:50:21 PM
all smiles

www.scam.com
 
2011-08-08 03:54:44 PM

millsapian87: LBJ took the IRT
Down to 4th Street USA
When he got there
What did he see?
The youth of America on LSD

LBJ IRT
USA LSD

LSD LBJ
FBI CIA

FBI CIA
LSD LBJ


Came here for the Hair reference. Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-08-08 03:54:59 PM
It was the Chicago Mob. They punished Kenedy after they won him the election and he turned on them. They just used their connections w/the CIA and Cubans to cover their tracks.
 
2011-08-08 03:56:02 PM
It's nice to hear she agrees with LBJ's lawyer, Barr McClellan, who wrote this book.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-08-08 03:57:15 PM
I hope you all realize JFK was a robot, and the "assassination" was a way to cover up when it malfunctioned one day.
 
2011-08-08 03:58:08 PM

OscarTamerz: When will the lieberturd denialists just admit that LBJ had him whacked then got rid of Bobby as Attorney General in less than a year after stripping him of control of the FBI not that he had much to begin with given J. Edgar Hoover's dossiers on him and Jack and then had him whacked in 1968 when he was running and it was obvious he was going to win the presidency. I'm of the opinion that had Bobby become president and the truth about the Dallas machine had come out along with the mob/democrat political machines running Kansas City during Truman's presidency there wouldn't be a democrat party today. No real American would identify themselves as a democrat anymore than they would a nazi.


No real American would identify themselves as a nazi anymore than they would a republican.
 
2011-08-08 04:00:55 PM

Gunny Highway: PillsHere: While I wouldn't be surprised if LBJ was involved somehow, in the least I don't think he was too sad about it. However, I'm pretty sure the mob were the ones that carried out the shooting and the CIA covered it up. Oswald was an idiot mob informant, a patsy really. So even if they put him up there and he actually managed to make that shot with one bullet which is still highly suspect, he was acting on behalf of the mob (or the government). The mob even tried to get into the jail and kill Oswald the night it happened which some speculate was to shut him up. However, there is supposedly evidence that there were mob guys there that most likely did the shooting.

The mob had the most incentive given the fact that JFK had ruined their stronghold over their booming casino business in Havana. Also, given the Kennedy's (in particular Joe Kennedy, JFK's dad), connection to the mafia and the fact that he supposedly owed them money and was generally in their pocket, it also points to them. Supposedly the mob got JFK into office in the first place because they needed a president who would look out for their interests, but he ended up betraying them.

However, the CIA or government in general (perhaps under LBJ's command) covered it up 100%. They didn't even do an investigation until a month later and somehow his head was misplaced at some point if I remember correctly. It was apparently the worst investigation of that magnitude in history. The government didn't like JFK.

I don't really know enough about the subject to be honest, but the thought that Oswald was some loony that acted alone is highly unlikely.

Very convincing argument


That's why I made sure to say I don't know enough about the subject because I don't. I had a guest lecturer come into one of my classes in college who wrote a book on the subject. He told us all of these different "facts" and theories. I don't really know what's true or not, but I found the whole thing extremely fascinating. Overall though, I don't really care that much since it doesn't change anything to know the truth, but the man made a convincing argument that it was not Oswald!
 
2011-08-08 04:01:03 PM

Coco LaFemme: Oh good, a JFK conspiracy thread! Just what I needed for some laughs. Quick, let me know if the current conspiracy theory du jour references the Illuminati, Rothschilds, or the International Banking Cartel.

I know it's hard to believe that life is random and that some people do crazy and frightening shiat for no other reason than because they can, but that's really how it is. Lee Harvey Oswald killed the President, for reasons we still don't know. Maybe we shouldn't know. It would be torture to comb through speeches or appearances he made, where he said whatever it was he said that set Oswald off, then curse the sky for the fact he said it.

Robert Dalek made the comment that the reason people believe in conspiracy is because no one wants to think that one man can bring down the leader of the free world. Think of a scale. Put JFK's death on one side and Oswald on the other. It doesn't seem to match. You almost feel compelled to throw more names in there with Oswald, because it would invest Kennedy's death with importance, it would mean he died for something bigger than himself, or the country. So on that note, I can understand why people believe in conspiracy, but that doesn't mean I think they're operating on this plane of existence when they do it.


Excuse me, but sudden outbursts of complete, thought out and insightful logic are not allowed on FARK.

img61.imageshack.us
 
2011-08-08 04:03:32 PM
It was this guy on behalf of Nixon who really did the shooting
cinemaddicts.org
 
2011-08-08 04:07:18 PM
Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back... and to the left. Baaaack and to the left.
Back and to the left.
 
2011-08-08 04:14:09 PM

Coco LaFemme: Oh good, a JFK conspiracy thread! Just what I needed for some laughs. Quick, let me know if the current conspiracy theory du jour references the Illuminati, Rothschilds, or the International Banking Cartel.

I know it's hard to believe that life is random and that some people do crazy and frightening shiat for no other reason than because they can, but that's really how it is. Lee Harvey Oswald killed the President, for reasons we still don't know. Maybe we shouldn't know. It would be torture to comb through speeches or appearances he made, where he said whatever it was he said that set Oswald off, then curse the sky for the fact he said it.

Robert Dalek made the comment that the reason people believe in conspiracy is because no one wants to think that one man can bring down the leader of the free world. Think of a scale. Put JFK's death on one side and Oswald on the other. It doesn't seem to match. You almost feel compelled to throw more names in there with Oswald, because it would invest Kennedy's death with importance, it would mean he died for something bigger than himself, or the country. So on that note, I can understand why people believe in conspiracy, but that doesn't mean I think they're operating on this plane of existence when they do it.


Lee Harvey Oswald did it! I heard all about it on the TV. duh-huh.
 
2011-08-08 04:15:07 PM

Coco LaFemme: Oh good, a JFK conspiracy thread! Just what I needed for some laughs. Quick, let me know if the current conspiracy theory du jour references the Illuminati, Rothschilds, or the International Banking Cartel.



You do realize the Rothschilds and International Banking Cartel are real, don't you?

If you don't... Try running as a politician who is against the private, unconstitutional Federal Reserve or try creating a bank which only hires Gentiles....
 
2011-08-08 04:16:36 PM
Coco LaFemme: let me start out by saying that I agree with you.

File photo of Robert Dalek:

t2.gstatic.com

/had to be done
 
2011-08-08 04:18:03 PM

dcigary: Coco LaFemme: Oh good, a JFK conspiracy thread! Just what I needed for some laughs. Quick, let me know if the current conspiracy theory du jour references the Illuminati, Rothschilds, or the International Banking Cartel.

I know it's hard to believe that life is random and that some people do crazy and frightening shiat for no other reason than because they can, but that's really how it is. Lee Harvey Oswald killed the President, for reasons we still don't know. Maybe we shouldn't know. It would be torture to comb through speeches or appearances he made, where he said whatever it was he said that set Oswald off, then curse the sky for the fact he said it.

Robert Dalek made the comment that the reason people believe in conspiracy is because no one wants to think that one man can bring down the leader of the free world. Think of a scale. Put JFK's death on one side and Oswald on the other. It doesn't seem to match. You almost feel compelled to throw more names in there with Oswald, because it would invest Kennedy's death with importance, it would mean he died for something bigger than himself, or the country. So on that note, I can understand why people believe in conspiracy, but that doesn't mean I think they're operating on this plane of existence when they do it.

Excuse me, but sudden outbursts of complete, thought out and insightful logic are not allowed on FARK.

[img61.imageshack.us image 162x187]


I know, I know. I should know better, but I can't help myself.
 
2011-08-08 04:20:28 PM
JFK was removed because he was an outsider and a danger to the system. On top of that, we was bad at being President. He almost blew up the world. Good riddance.
 
2011-08-08 04:20:37 PM

schattenteufel: [www.britishfasteners.com image 252x254]
/theory


I think that people formulate these crazy conspiracies because they want life to be more interesting than it actually is.


The Kennedy team pretty much despised and ignored LBJ, (unsurprising for a clannish machine of style over substance that was forced to take on one of the most accomplished legislators in US history to win the presidency) so it doesn't surprise me that she'd feel the need to pin it on him. That he quickly showed himself to be a better president than Kennedy could have ever been could have only rubbed salt in the wound. Of far greater import to me is the serial infidelity revealed in these tapes, which shows just how vapid, juvenile, and decadent the Kennedy WH was.
 
2011-08-08 04:22:25 PM
I believe her, yo.
 
2011-08-08 04:26:24 PM
Nah,it was suicide.
 
2011-08-08 04:29:17 PM

Heron: schattenteufel: [www.britishfasteners.com image 252x254]
/theory


I think that people formulate these crazy conspiracies because they want life to be more interesting than it actually is.

The Kennedy team pretty much despised and ignored LBJ, (unsurprising for a clannish machine of style over substance that was forced to take on one of the most accomplished legislators in US history to win the presidency) so it doesn't surprise me that she'd feel the need to pin it on him. That he quickly showed himself to be a better president than Kennedy could have ever been could have only rubbed salt in the wound. Of far greater import to me is the serial infidelity revealed in these tapes, which shows just how vapid, juvenile, and decadent the Kennedy WH was.



For starters, I don't give a rat's behind who the President farks, as long as who he is farking isn't underage or deceased. Or an animal. Two, it's impossible to say that LBJ was a greater President than Kennedy could have ever been, because Kennedy died before his first term was up. We have no way of knowing what Kennedy would have done in 1964 and beyond if he was re-elected. One could assume that the domestic legislation Johnson pushed through would have been things on his agenda, but again.....it's just an assumption. Death has a funny way of taking the future away from us. Three, Johnson's increasing escalation of our presence in Vietnam cancels out the good he did domestically. So for me, his presidency is a wash.

I will grant you that Kennedy's short presidency has been treated with the rosy glow of "what ifs" and "if onlys", and that it's not completely fair because he wasn't able to accomplish much, but it's complete bullpuckey to state that you know for certain Johnson was a better president than Kennedy could have ever been. You'd have to know what Kennedy would have done, and known it would have failed, to say that what Johnson did during the same time frame was better.

Come on now, let's be rational. I know it's Fark, but try.
 
2011-08-08 04:35:14 PM

simplicimus: Nah,it was suicide.


www.btinternet.com

Exactly...
 
2011-08-08 04:38:35 PM
Anyone remember the satire MacBird (Wikipedia)? It's a send-up of MacBeth with Johnson bumping off JFK.

www.art-for-a-change.com
 
2011-08-08 04:49:17 PM

VoteOrDie: The best thing to ever come out of Texas was what was left of kennedy in a pine box, nothing of value was lost.


I thought the best (and only) thing that came out of Texas was STEERS AND QUEERS...

At least that's what this guy says:
www.smartfellowspress.com
 
2011-08-08 05:02:29 PM

VictorOfBorge: VoteOrDie: The best thing to ever come out of Texas was what was left of kennedy in a pine box, nothing of value was lost.

I thought the best (and only) thing that came out of Texas was STEERS AND QUEERS...

At least that's what this guy says:


He was what made that movie worth watching.
 
2011-08-08 05:03:17 PM

gaslight: Anyone remember the satire MacBird (Wikipedia)? It's a send-up of MacBeth with Johnson bumping off JFK.

[www.art-for-a-change.com image 336x432]


Somehow, I think it's just and I. I referenced it. About 4 hours ago.
 
2011-08-08 05:11:16 PM

Coco LaFemme: Heron: schattenteufel: [www.britishfasteners.com image 252x254]
/theory


I think that people formulate these crazy conspiracies because they want life to be more interesting than it actually is.

The Kennedy team pretty much despised and ignored LBJ, (unsurprising for a clannish machine of style over substance that was forced to take on one of the most accomplished legislators in US history to win the presidency) so it doesn't surprise me that she'd feel the need to pin it on him. That he quickly showed himself to be a better president than Kennedy could have ever been could have only rubbed salt in the wound. Of far greater import to me is the serial infidelity revealed in these tapes, which shows just how vapid, juvenile, and decadent the Kennedy WH was.


For starters, I don't give a rat's behind who the President farks, as long as who he is farking isn't underage or deceased. Or an animal. Two, it's impossible to say that LBJ was a greater President than Kennedy could have ever been, because Kennedy died before his first term was up. We have no way of knowing what Kennedy would have done in 1964 and beyond if he was re-elected. One could assume that the domestic legislation Johnson pushed through would have been things on his agenda, but again.....it's just an assumption. Death has a funny way of taking the future away from us. Three, Johnson's increasing escalation of our presence in Vietnam cancels out the good he did domestically. So for me, his presidency is a wash.

I will grant you that Kennedy's short presidency has been treated with the rosy glow of "what ifs" and "if onlys", and that it's not completely fair because he wasn't able to accomplish much, but it's complete bullpuckey to state that you know for certain Johnson was a better president than Kennedy could have ever been. You'd have to know what Kennedy would have done, and known it would have failed, to say that what Johnson did during the same time frame was better.

Come on now, let's be rational. I know it's Fark, but try.


Re:JFK. He is overly romanticized. I was born during the Eisenhower administration. Cuban missle crisis? Bay of Pigs? Advisors sent to Vietnam? Yeah, LBJ kept the Vietnam police action going, but so did Nixon.
 
2011-08-08 05:16:04 PM
Oh, btw, Johnson had the balls to push the Civil Rights Act, knowing full well the consequences. That's a lot more balls than JFK had.
 
2011-08-08 05:17:01 PM

beta_plus: It was the Chicago Mob. They punished Kenedy after they won him the election and he turned on them. They just used their connections w/the CIA and Cubans to cover their tracks.


Elvis never worked for the mob. He shot JFK from a UFO on orders from Nixon. That bastard!
 
2011-08-08 05:24:11 PM

millsapian87: LBJ took the IRT
Down to 4th Street USA
When he got there
What did he see?
The youth of America on LSD

LBJ IRT
USA LSD

LSD LBJ
FBI CIA

FBI CIA
LSD LBJ


Came for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2011-08-08 05:24:41 PM

simplicimus: Oh, btw, Johnson had the balls to push the Civil Rights Act, knowing full well the consequences. That's a lot more balls than JFK had.


That's not really fair, JFK had to worry about getting reelected in '64, Johnson knew damned well he was winning in '64, an inanimate carbon rod would have won in 1964 had they been a Democrat. Hell, Kansas went blue. Who knows what would have happened had he gotten a second term? Other than the 1.5 million dead and 2+ million wounded of the Vietnam War not happening.
 
2011-08-08 05:32:54 PM

schattenteufel: [www.britishfasteners.com image 252x254]
/theory


I think that people formulate these crazy conspiracies because they want life to be more interesting than it actually is.


People? This was his wife. Someone close to both JFK and LBJ. Who did you think Jackie O. was?
 
2011-08-08 05:36:20 PM
Nixon was in Dallas when JFK was shot, in Chicago when RFK was shot, and was reportedly near Chappaquiddick one fateful evening.
 
2011-08-08 05:38:26 PM

BeSerious: schattenteufel: [www.britishfasteners.com image 252x254]
/theory


I think that people formulate these crazy conspiracies because they want life to be more interesting than it actually is.

People? This was his wife. Someone close to both JFK and LBJ. Who did you think Jackie O. was?


Yes, I know who Jackie Onassis was...
However, I doubt the existence of these tapes, and/or their supposed content.
This is the Daily Mail after all. Not exactly a reputable news source.
 
2011-08-08 05:47:09 PM
old news is so exciting


/// this is from what... 1965?
 
2011-08-08 05:59:48 PM

simplicimus: Oh, btw, Johnson had the balls to push the Civil Rights Act, knowing full well the consequences. That's a lot more balls than JFK had.


Balls were only part of it. LBJ had something more important that JFK could never have: He was a southerner. That alone gave him credibility with his fellow southern Democrats. Also, LBJ shameless capitalized on JFK's death: "no memorial or eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought."

LBJ himself was on the fence regarding civil rights throughout the fifties. He voted against and significantly diluted both Truman's and Eisenhower's civil rights bills. He did have a change or heart later. Some of reasoning, though, is downright pragmatic: "The Negro fought in the war [World War Two], and....he's not gonna keep taking the shiat we're dishing out. We're in a race with time. If we don't act, we're gonna have blood in the streets." Can't imagine any politcian saying anything like that today.
 
2011-08-08 06:02:13 PM

spartacus_prime: Nixon was in Dallas when JFK was shot, in Chicago when RFK was shot, and was reportedly near Chappaquiddick one fateful evening.


That would only be somewhat interesting had RFK been killed in Chicago. He wasn't. He was killed in Los Angeles a good two months before the DNC in Chicago.
 
2011-08-08 06:12:57 PM
So the AFL/CIO is in the clear?
 
2011-08-08 06:17:51 PM
Holden has supposedly had a lot of women. He must be a charmer because I always thought he looked like someone's grandpa. Notables: Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly, Capucine, Shelley Winters Eva May Hoffman, etc.
 
2011-08-08 06:19:08 PM

Coco LaFemme: spartacus_prime: Nixon was in Dallas when JFK was shot, in Chicago when RFK was shot, and was reportedly near Chappaquiddick one fateful evening.

That would only be somewhat interesting had RFK been killed in Chicago. He wasn't. He was killed in Los Angeles a good two months before the DNC in Chicago.


Curses, foiled by not doing the research.
 
2011-08-08 06:24:52 PM

Clash City Farker: JFK was removed because he was an outsider and a danger to the system. On top of that, we was bad at being President. He almost blew up the world. Good riddance.


No his military advisers almost blew up the world. He overruled them.
 
2011-08-08 06:29:46 PM

Persnickety: simplicimus: Oh, btw, Johnson had the balls to push the Civil Rights Act, knowing full well the consequences. That's a lot more balls than JFK had.

Balls were only part of it. LBJ had something more important that JFK could never have: He was a southerner. That alone gave him credibility with his fellow southern Democrats. Also, LBJ shameless capitalized on JFK's death: "no memorial or eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought."

LBJ himself was on the fence regarding civil rights throughout the fifties. He voted against and significantly diluted both Truman's and Eisenhower's civil rights bills. He did have a change or heart later. Some of reasoning, though, is downright pragmatic: "The Negro fought in the war [World War Two], and....he's not gonna keep taking the shiat we're dishing out. We're in a race with time. If we don't act, we're gonna have blood in the streets." Can't imagine any politcian saying anything like that today.


actually, RFK was the prime mover behind civil rights. And LBJ said, after signing the act, that Democrats had lost the South. Balls.
 
2011-08-08 06:34:05 PM

Persnickety: LBJ himself was on the fence regarding civil rights throughout the fifties. He voted against and significantly diluted both Truman's and Eisenhower's civil rights bills. He did have a change or heart later. Some of reasoning, though, is downright pragmatic: "The Negro fought in the war [World War Two], and....he's not gonna keep taking the shiat we're dishing out. We're in a race with time. If we don't act, we're gonna have blood in the streets." Can't imagine any politcian saying anything like that today.


On the contrary: I can certainly imagine a modern politician saying this, but ending the thought with "BRING IT ON!"

If that politician was affiliated with the Tea Party, anyway.
 
2011-08-08 06:37:19 PM
ExperianScaresCthulhu:

Dang. Oh well. Anyway, wiki can't be correct that there was no vice president while he was finishing out Kennedy's term. Why was no one appointed? What would have happened if LBJ had been assassinated, too?


POTUS->VPOTUS-> Speaker of the House-> President Pro Tempore of the Senate-> Sec of State I don't remember the succession on past state, I believe either Treasury, defense, or Attny Gen is after Sec State.
 
Displayed 50 of 177 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all



This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report