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(ESPN)   Old hotness: Curse of Barry Bonds. New hotness: Curse of Jerry Meals. Pirates record since Jerry Meals miscall: 1-10, with a run differential of 40-72   (espn.go.com) divider line 31
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2011-08-06 10:48:46 PM
Actually, I think the Pirates needed to make a trade at the deadline and not necessarily a blockbuster one, just a minor one that would have shown that the ownership felt they could win. I think that's partially what's dooming them.
 
2011-08-07 05:36:56 AM

mikemoto: Actually, I think the Pirates needed to make a trade at the deadline and not necessarily a blockbuster one, just a minor one that would have shown that the ownership felt they could win. I think that's partially what's dooming them.


Isn't that exactly what they did by acquiring Derek Lee?

Also, in spite of the Bucco's 9-game losing streak, Pennsylvania baseball is 9-9 in the last 18.
 
2011-08-07 05:58:01 AM
I still say replay would not have overturned that call. He missed the swipe, and might have brushed his leg on accident.

I do think that it was hilarious when Meals showed up the next day wearing glasses.
 
2011-08-07 06:17:39 AM

thegod082: Isn't that exactly what they did by acquiring Derek Lee?


As a Braves fan, believe me when I tell you that acquiring Derek Lee in a late-season trade is NOT all it's cracked up to be.
 
2011-08-07 06:45:36 AM

ox45tallboy: thegod082: Isn't that exactly what they did by acquiring Derek Lee?

As a Braves fan, believe me when I tell you that acquiring Derek Lee in a late-season trade is NOT all it's cracked up to be.


I think I see the problem. You acquired Derek Lee instead of Derrek Lee. Completely different players!
 
2011-08-07 06:50:23 AM

HaywoodJablonski: I think I see the problem. You acquired Derek Lee instead of Derrek Lee. Completely different players!


Fair enough. Although Wiki says Derek played less than a month in the majors with a .152 average, so he's not much better.
 
2011-08-07 08:27:48 AM
Maybe it's just the fact that they are young and it caught up with them. Cinderella stories are nice, but they are few and far between.
 
2011-08-07 09:18:58 AM

thegod082: Isn't that exactly what they did by acquiring Derek Lee?


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2011-08-07 09:54:47 AM
It's okay, they are just coming right back to their rightful place in the cellar along with the Astros.

/my shiatty, shiatty Astros
 
2011-08-07 11:00:07 AM
They should have made a bigger play for Hunter Pence. With the exception of McCutchen, every single player on the team should have been on the table.
 
2011-08-07 11:12:45 AM

ox45tallboy: I still say replay would not have overturned that call. He missed the swipe, and might have brushed his leg on accident.

I do think that it was hilarious when Meals showed up the next day wearing glasses.



I agree with this. All the talk afterward was about how they have to take the human component of possible mistakes out of the equation - there will still be a human up in the booth looking and deciding. Plus, like you say, replay wouldn't have overturned it....he missed the tag.

I think Major League Baseball was mad because the general rule in baseball is that if the ball beats the runner the runner is out regardless of whether or not the tag was made in time - everybody makes this assumption. The runner thought he was out and so did the catcher, but the umpire was right freaking on top of the play, in perfect position and he made the right call - he didn't make any call until the runner touched home plate. If he was out he would have made the call as soon as the tag was made. I think MLB would rather umpires continue with the "assumption" because it makes the game easier for them, and makes replay less necessary because controversial calls are less likely to be made.
 
2011-08-07 12:21:47 PM
The curse of Meals? Meh. More like the curse of reality caught up with the team.
 
2011-08-07 12:38:48 PM
As a baseball fan, I was excited to finally see the Pirate make a run at it. I love watching underdog, small-market teams pull it together.

As a Brewers fan, I'm perfectly OK with the falloff of both the Pirates and the Reds since the Allstar break. All we have to do is knock the Cardinals down a peg in the 6 games we have left with them and it's time for OCTOBERFEST! WOOHOO!

/yay
 
2011-08-07 12:44:21 PM

mikemoto: Actually, I think the Pirates needed to make a trade at the deadline and not necessarily a blockbuster one, just a minor one that would have shown that the ownership felt they could win. I think that's partially what's dooming them.


They traded for Ryan Ludwick and Derrek Lee. Their problem is not that they didn't trade at the deadline, it's that the starting pitching has imploded and Clint Hurdle refuses to use Hanrahan in anything other than a save situation in the 9th, which hasn't happened recently.
 
2011-08-07 12:49:49 PM
I thought they'd try to get Beltran if they were serious. I mean, I'd rather go to SF if I were him, but did the Bucs not have enough money or something?

/been moving between countries last few weeks
//not able to follow the news as much
 
2011-08-07 01:23:17 PM
They've won once since the labor deal was agreed to, proving they, like the rest of the city, is distracted by the Steelers once again.
 
2011-08-07 02:15:20 PM
It is just reality catching up with them. The pitchers were over preforming all year, going to collapse sooner or later.
 
2011-08-07 02:54:01 PM
Could just be the 2nd curse of a play at the plate against the Braves.
 
2011-08-07 03:52:24 PM
Ghost Tropic: I thought they'd try to get Beltran if they were serious. I mean, I'd rather go to SF if I were him, but did the Bucs not have enough money or something?

/been moving between countries last few weeks
//not able to follow the news as much


Money wasn't the issue as far as gaining Beltran in a trade. The Mets offered to reduce the cost of Beltran to whichever team Beltran was going to be dealt to. The issue was that Beltran had proffered a list of teams he would be willing to waive his no-trade clause for and Pittsburgh wasn't on it.
 
2011-08-07 04:04:44 PM

MAYORBOB: Ghost Tropic: I thought they'd try to get Beltran if they were serious. I mean, I'd rather go to SF if I were him, but did the Bucs not have enough money or something?

/been moving between countries last few weeks
//not able to follow the news as much

Money wasn't the issue as far as gaining Beltran in a trade. The Mets offered to reduce the cost of Beltran to whichever team Beltran was going to be dealt to. The issue was that Beltran had proffered a list of teams he would be willing to waive his no-trade clause for and Pittsburgh wasn't on it.


Ah thanks.
 
2011-08-07 04:31:13 PM
People act like had that call not gone that way the Pirates would have won the game...Not like they could have lost on the very next batter or in a later inning or anything.
 
2011-08-07 04:41:41 PM
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What would make Pirates' fans angrier....saying I thought they were both safe or out?
 
2011-08-07 06:05:28 PM
It wasn't a glaring miscall, get the fark over it
 
2011-08-07 06:07:45 PM

bulldg4life: What would make Pirates' fans angrier....saying I thought they were both safe or out?


Ironically I thought Sid was closer to being out.

Pittsburgh people are stupid.
 
2011-08-07 06:19:37 PM
Curse schmurse, this is what happens when your team can't hit worth a damn all year long and your pitching stops playing over their heads.
 
2011-08-07 06:23:38 PM

ElwoodCuse: Curse schmurse, this is what happens when your team can't hit worth a damn all year long and your pitching stops playing over their heads.


And the fact he wasn't out means nothing.
 
2011-08-07 08:02:59 PM

steamingpile: ElwoodCuse: Curse schmurse, this is what happens when your team can't hit worth a damn all year long and your pitching stops playing over their heads.

And the fact he wasn't out means nothing.


Except MLB apologized for missing the call.

I think your name might refer to your brain.
 
2011-08-07 08:05:23 PM
Look, what's more important, a barely above .500 Pirates team or extending their impressive streak of losing seasons?
 
2011-08-07 10:56:51 PM

coeyagi: Look, what's more important, a barely above .500 Pirates team or extending their impressive streak of losing seasons?


make no mistake, that streak is absolutely going to continue
 
2011-08-08 12:27:05 AM

Agent Nick Fury: Except MLB apologized for missing the call.

I think your name might refer to your brain.


After the game, AAAAAAAAAAAAAND after seeing the still photo of the play that was not visible from any umpire's angle on the play.

So he wasnt out, it happens, plenty of plays were wrong calls and most of them are famous but stood. It was one call and even if he was called out there was still a good chance they lose that game so pittsburgh fans need to quit dwelling on it and blame the owners like they should for killing that team.
 
2011-08-08 08:50:36 AM

steamingpile: Agent Nick Fury: Except MLB apologized for missing the call.

I think your name might refer to your brain.

After the game, AAAAAAAAAAAAAND after seeing the still photo of the play that was not visible from any umpire's angle on the play.

So he wasnt out, it happens, plenty of plays were wrong calls and most of them are famous but stood. It was one call and even if he was called out there was still a good chance they lose that game so pittsburgh fans need to quit dwelling on it and blame the owners like they should for killing that team.


Oh, believe me, I do that every day. The blame ownership part, not dwelling on the bad calls.

/Definite learning experience for the team this season, which is good.
//Bracing for the waiver fire sale coming up.
///Yeah, nice trade to Baltimore there, guys. Haven't we learned nothing good can come from that place, ever?
 
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