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(Entertainment Weekly)   Deleted scene from Pulp Fiction about what captain is better--Kirk or Picard--shows that Quentin Tarantino doesn't know shiat about pop culture because, of course, he forgot Sisko   (popwatch.ew.com) divider line 149
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2011-08-02 12:59:38 PM
s11.allstarpics.net

/ lolWUT
 
2011-08-02 01:12:49 PM
Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.
 
2011-08-02 01:16:03 PM
Ah, Deep Space Nine. Boldly going NOWHERE.
 
2011-08-02 01:16:39 PM
Cagey B: Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.

Puh-lease. Archer has that shiat locked down.

/Greatest captain of them all.
 
2011-08-02 01:22:17 PM
Please. Nobody could make a decision and stick to it like Christopher Pike.
 
2011-08-02 01:24:56 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: Please. Nobody could make a decision and stick to it like Christopher Pike.

I [BEEP BEEP], right?
 
2011-08-02 01:30:33 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: Please. Nobody could make a decision and stick to it like Christopher Pike.

Matt Decker was the best starship commander. All others are pale imitations.

But technically when he was in command his rank was Commodore; by that technicality, you are right.
 
2011-08-02 01:33:08 PM
Kredal: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Please. Nobody could make a decision and stick to it like Christopher Pike.

I [BEEP BEEP], right?


Nice
 
2011-08-02 01:33:43 PM
Did Sisko exist in 1994? I didn't think DS9 had come out at that point.
 
2011-08-02 01:35:24 PM
Rev. Skarekroe: Did Sisko exist in 1994? I didn't think DS9 had come out at that point.

Actually, never mind.
The headline was written by someone who failed reading comprehension classes in grad school.
 
2011-08-02 01:36:05 PM
Rev. Skarekroe: The headline was written by someone who failed reading comprehension classes in grad school.

Uh, GRADE school.
I don't think most grad schools offer reading comprehension, but I've been wrong before.
 
2011-08-02 01:40:51 PM
"DF: You're absolutely right. Kirk would have never stopped trying to somehow "defeat" Q. Picard's genius was to accept Q wasn't really a villain; he was more like a valued opponent in a game of existential chess. I actually think that you're short-selling Picard, though. Like, I'm trying to imagine Picard in "Errand of Mercy," dealing with the Klingons. He seems like he'd be an incredible wartime diplomat. He'd fit into any time period. Kirk could have only survived in a more wild era. He's a blunt instrument, and he knows it."

Sorry for the TNG geekery that follows.

Q wasn't really an opponent. He was intrigued by humanity but in the end, he admired Picard and found hope in humanity. He helped Picard in "All Good Things..." and also showed Picard that his wild youth had a purpose in "Tapestry." I would agree with the take Wiki article on Q (new window) has on Q's character.
 
2011-08-02 01:45:17 PM
Picard.
 
2011-08-02 01:47:27 PM
Saborlas: Ah, Deep Space Nine. Boldly going NOWHERE.

And we're done here.
 
2011-08-02 01:47:29 PM
Phfff, Amateurs

www.sitcomsonline.com
 
2011-08-02 01:48:32 PM
Picard reminds me of my grandfather. Kirk is like my dad when he's had too much to farking drink.

/Grandda has boldly gone, I really wish dad was.
// Hey Universe, can i call in a trade?
 
2011-08-02 01:49:32 PM
Rev. Skarekroe: Rev. Skarekroe: The headline was written by someone who failed reading comprehension classes in grad school.

Uh, GRADE school.
I don't think most grad schools offer reading comprehension, but I've been wrong before.


I think that would be worse. It would be an indictment not only of the individual in question, but also of the entire education system that is the backbone of our society.
 
2011-08-02 01:50:44 PM
Cagey B: Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.

3.bp.blogspot.com

YOUZ TROLLIN
 
2011-08-02 01:51:49 PM
Rev. Skarekroe: Did Sisko exist in 1994? I didn't think DS9 had come out at that point.

Yes it had actually. It started during season 6 of TNG, in january 1993.
 
2011-08-02 01:52:49 PM
Am I missing something, or is there, in fact, no actual deleted scene on that page?
 
2011-08-02 01:53:48 PM
Desquamation: Cagey B: Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.

Puh-lease. Archer has that shiat locked down.

/Greatest captain of them all.



Everybody rags on ST:Enterprise, but there were two really great things about that show.
 
2011-08-02 01:54:46 PM
unlikely: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Please. Nobody could make a decision and stick to it like Christopher Pike.

Matt Decker was the best starship commander. All others are pale imitations.

But technically when he was in command his rank was Commodore; by that technicality, you are right.


Sorry, but anybody who gets killed by a gigantic corn snack just sucks as a captain.

24.media.tumblr.com
/spoiler alert
 
2011-08-02 01:55:37 PM
Cagey B: Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.

This is true. Picard never even made admiral.
 
2011-08-02 01:55:38 PM
FloydA: Everybody rags on ST:Enterprise, but there were two really great things about that show.

T and Pol, amirite?
 
2011-08-02 01:56:06 PM
captain sisko is more akin to a 24 hour shift manager on-site at a truck stop stuck 150 miles from anywhere remotely civilized
 
2011-08-02 01:56:16 PM
FloydA: Desquamation: Cagey B: Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.

Puh-lease. Archer has that shiat locked down.

/Greatest captain of them all.


Everybody rags on ST:Enterprise, but there were two really great things about that show.


Archer and Porthos?
 
2011-08-02 01:56:38 PM
My favorite Captain:
www.flatflutedivers.de

Quest > Trek
 
2011-08-02 01:56:48 PM
Hack Patooey: Am I missing something, or is there, in fact, no actual deleted scene on that page?

If you're posting in this thread, you are indeed missing something: a sex life.
 
2011-08-02 01:56:53 PM
I have a certain fondness for Tarentino, honestly. I think he has enormous visual gifts as a director and he really knows how to direct actors - the two don't always go hand-in-hand. But his scripts are smart only to people who don't read enough.
 
2011-08-02 01:58:38 PM
Surprising thoughtful article. Made my brain hurt.

/Capt. Jellico FTW!
 
2011-08-02 02:02:28 PM
Is there a sign on my starship that says "negro captain storage"?
 
2011-08-02 02:05:02 PM
Saborlas: Ah, Deep Space Nine. Boldly going NOWHERE.

Well, except for that whole other quadrant they discovered. And I guess that war they fought was a non-story. Overzealous changelings.
 
2011-08-02 02:07:19 PM
Subby:

"When it comes to important subjects," (Mrs. Wallace) explains, "There's only two ways a person can answer. For example, there's two kinds of people in this world: Beatles people and Elvis people. Now Beatles people can like Elvis. And Elvis people can like the Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally. Somewhere, you have to make a choice. And that choice tells me who you are."

The scene does not mention Star Trek. The article never claims the scene mentions Star Trek. I've seen the deleted scene, and it does not mention Star Trek. The scene, as quoted, explains why Mrs. Wallace calls Vinnie an "Elvis man" Jack Rabbit Slim's diner.

The quote was included for it's philosophical stand, not because it specifically addresses the question of which Star Trek captain is better, but because it is an issue where people who watch Trek always pick a distinct side on the issue... like the Elvis vs The Beatles question.

Subby, you are a complete tool for not understanding the first thing about the article you supposedly read before posting.
 
2011-08-02 02:08:30 PM
VaportrailFilms: Quest > Trek

mark12A: /Capt. Jellico FTW!

If we're leaving the Trek universe, then it has to be Malcolm Reynolds all the way.
 
2011-08-02 02:09:19 PM
JudgeItoBox: Is there a sign on my starship that says "negro captain storage"?

Would you give a Jem'Hadar a foot massage?
 
2011-08-02 02:09:21 PM
star trek == TNG == DS9 == Enterprise > Voyager

Kirk == Picard == Sisco == Archer > Janeway

//Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
 
2011-08-02 02:12:20 PM
Say what you will, but only Captain Cameron Frye was able to finally crowbar Kirk out of the universe.
 
2011-08-02 02:12:58 PM
unlikely: VaportrailFilms: Quest > Trek

mark12A: /Capt. Jellico FTW!

If we're leaving the Trek universe, then it has to be Malcolm Reynolds William Adama all the way.
 
2011-08-02 02:13:08 PM
Avery Brooks is so genuinely insane he makes Shatner seem normal. It's hard to believe that guy could actually pull it together for long enough to read his lines.
 
2011-08-02 02:13:33 PM
Do they even sell Red Apples in space?
 
2011-08-02 02:14:50 PM
The All-Powerful Atheismo: Rev. Skarekroe: Did Sisko exist in 1994? I didn't think DS9 had come out at that point.

Yes it had actually. It started during season 6 of TNG, in january 1993.


Yeah, but the first couple of seasons of DS9 sucked hard, like all Trek.
 
2011-08-02 02:15:09 PM
buck1138: star trek == TNG == DS9 == Enterprise > Voyager

Kirk == Picard == Sisco == Archer > Janeway

//Search your feelings. You know it to be true.


YES. Let the butthurt flow through you!

/I'd call subby a tard for not grasping temporal mechanics and causality but he is correct, Ben Sisko is the superior commanding officer.
 
2011-08-02 02:17:32 PM
Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer, Pike, Decker, Jellico... you can stuff 'em all up a Jefferies tube for all I care. The finest captain in the history of Starfleet is Robert April.

upload.wikimedia.org

That man was worth his weight in gold-pressed latinum.

/Seriously though, it's Picard in a walk
 
2011-08-02 02:17:43 PM
spcMike: This is true. Picard never even made admiral.

True, but only technically. He was offered and turned it down, so whatever it takes to 'make' admiral, he accomplished. He simply didn't want to be one.
 
2011-08-02 02:17:57 PM
Hack Patooey: Am I missing something, or is there, in fact, no actual deleted scene on that page?

You're missing the fact that submitter is an idiot.

FTFA:

In a deleted scene from Pulp Fiction, Uma Thurman offers a unified theory of pop culture, which (this being a Quentin Tarantino movie) doubles as a unified theory of humanity. "When it comes to important subjects," she explains, "There's only two ways a person can answer. For example, there's two kinds of people in this world: Beatles people and Elvis people. Now Beatles people can like Elvis. And Elvis people can like the Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally. Somewhere, you have to make a choice. And that choice tells me who you are."

. . .

With that in mind, your opinionated friends and ornery neighbors here at PopWatch HQ are kicking off a new series of posts dedicated to bridging the Great Divides in the entertainment world. First up: We're debating the great galactic generation gap between Captain James T. Kirk (brash, romantic, Shatner-ian) and Captain Jean-Luc Picard (thoughtful, even-handed, Shakespearean).


In other words, the deleted "Pulp Fiction" scene is the Beatles/Elvis question. (Travolta picks Elvis, and Uma's character follows up on the deleted scene, actually calling him "an Elvis man" in the theatrical cut.) EW took the "choose a favorite" and ran with it, setting up a novel debate that was an internet cliche all the way back in 1999.
 
2011-08-02 02:19:05 PM
spcMike: Cagey B: Just for all the non-Trekkies out there, when they say "best captain", they're actually talking about the issue of "second-best captain", since Janeway is universally assumed to be best.

This is true. Picard never even made admiral.


It was offered. He declined. Somewhere in Season 1 or 2.
 
2011-08-02 02:21:19 PM
The All-Powerful Atheismo: Hack Patooey: Am I missing something, or is there, in fact, no actual deleted scene on that page?

If you're posting in this thread, you are indeed missing something: a sex life.


Well, welcome to the club. Pass the kleenex box.
 
2011-08-02 02:21:50 PM
For anyone that enjoys deep story telling with great characters, primary and secondary, DS9 is hands down the best Trek. If all you're looking for is schlocky sci-fi then an argument can be made for any of the other Treks.

I happen to enjoy solid, long story telling. That's why DS9 is the best Trek imo.
 
2011-08-02 02:25:21 PM
Picard never punched Q.

Sisko FTW.
 
2011-08-02 02:27:48 PM
Hey, replicator food may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat that mother-shipping filth.

That aside, subby has no ability to read and comprehend at the same time.
 
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