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2011-08-02 10:07:37 AM
Probably went into cardiac arrest. Too bad his family didn't know CPR.
 
2011-08-02 10:08:56 AM
Died because subby was doing compressions too slowly, apparently.
 
2011-08-02 10:09:51 AM
Kryllith: Died because subby was doing compressions too slowly, apparently.

No no, they changed it this year, like they changed it last year, and the year before that.
 
2011-08-02 10:10:00 AM
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R.I.P.
 
Skr
2011-08-02 10:10:05 AM
Subheader in the article states Dr. Max Harry Weil Credited With Saving Thousands Of Lives

The article then starts by saying thousands of thousands. It seems a bit ood, I would have guessed that CPR had saved many more lives than that (some even multiple times.)
Pity they never found a work around for that whole breaking ribs thing though.

one mississippi two mississippi three mississippi
 
2011-08-02 10:11:03 AM
old and busted: 'one one thousand', new hotness: stayin' alive, stayin' alive
 
2011-08-02 10:13:08 AM
macadamnut: [blog.silive.com image 453x340]

R.I.P.


BRAVO
 
2011-08-02 10:18:11 AM
Over Rancho Mirage?
 
2011-08-02 10:19:36 AM
stuhayes2010: Kryllith: Died because subby was doing compressions too slowly, apparently.

No no, they changed it this year, like they changed it last year, and the year before that.


They changed the compression rate? I know they stopped the 30 compressions to 2 breaths a year or two ago to cut out the rescue breaths completely (at least with a solo rescuer, don't know about paired), but I thought they were still working at 100 compressions/minute. Of course, the last time I took a class was about 5 years ago, so I could be way off the mark.
 
2011-08-02 10:22:19 AM
 
2011-08-02 10:22:40 AM
Unobtanium: Over Rancho Mirage?

I'll never get over Rancho Mirage...
 
2011-08-02 10:24:11 AM
indyguy100: macadamnut: [blog.silive.com image 453x340]

R.I.P.

BRAVO


Here here!
 
2011-08-02 10:24:48 AM
My Mother has worked for Dr. Weil at the Institute for Critical Care for rmany years. I've met him a couple of times. He was a nice guy who worked very hard. We will miss him and the world has lost a great man.
 
2011-08-02 10:25:46 AM
LewDux

What CPR may look like (new window)

I think the phone call phase would the last thing on my mind.


//// nice CPR
 
2011-08-02 10:26:00 AM
Kryllith: stuhayes2010: Kryllith: Died because subby was doing compressions too slowly, apparently.

No no, they changed it this year, like they changed it last year, and the year before that.

They changed the compression rate? I know they stopped the 30 compressions to 2 breaths a year or two ago to cut out the rescue breaths completely (at least with a solo rescuer, don't know about paired), but I thought they were still working at 100 compressions/minute. Of course, the last time I took a class was about 5 years ago, so I could be way off the mark.


Last I heard was the "staying alive" version -- sing the song in your head and compress on the beats, forget breaths. I think that comes out to something like 100/min. The idea is that the blood is already oxygenated, you just need to keep it pumping to the brain.
 
2011-08-02 10:28:53 AM
Another one bites the dust.

/obscure?
 
2011-08-02 10:41:14 AM
I was certified less than two years ago and it was the "Stayin' Alive" 100 beats/min for 30, then 1 breath. Rinse and repeat until the AED or paramedics arrive.
 
2011-08-02 10:55:46 AM
AndysPhishin: I was certified less than two years ago and it was the "Stayin' Alive" 100 beats/min for 30, then 1 breath. Rinse and repeat until the AED or paramedics arrive.

Interestingly enough, "Another One Bites The Dust" is also 100 beats per minute.

/TMYK
 
2011-08-02 11:15:30 AM
"Skeletons of Society" by Slayer is also 100 bpm.

/We should see how many measure up.
 
2011-08-02 11:36:48 AM
chopit: Last I heard was the "staying alive" version -- sing the song in your head and compress on the beats, forget breaths. I think that comes out to something like 100/min. The idea is that the blood is already oxygenated, you just need to keep it pumping to the brain.

Compression-only CPR is recommended if you are untrained or unwilling/unable to do breaths. All the big agencies (American Heart Association, American Red Cross, even the European Resuscitation Council) are still recommending breaths for professional rescuers and lay rescuers who are comfortable doing them. (Or in cases of drowning or other times when there is likely a root respiratory cause for the arrest.)
 
2011-08-02 11:38:34 AM
I got certified last week (BLS for healthcare provider) and the AHA taught it as 30 compressions then two breaths. 15:2 for two rescuer child/infant response.
 
2011-08-02 11:54:22 AM
Gaseous Anomaly: AndysPhishin: I was certified less than two years ago and it was the "Stayin' Alive" 100 beats/min for 30, then 1 breath. Rinse and repeat until the AED or paramedics arrive.

Interestingly enough, "Another One Bites The Dust" is also 100 beats per minute.

/TMYK


This. It's got only one real advantage over "Stayin' Alive," but it can be a big one in this situation: the beat remains constant over the course of the song. The beat cuts out on "Stayin' alIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE" and that can potentially throw people off.
 
2011-08-02 12:01:14 PM
evaned: Compression-only CPR is recommended if you are untrained or unwilling/unable to do breaths. All the big agencies (American Heart Association, American Red Cross, even the European Resuscitation Council) are still recommending breaths for professional rescuers and lay rescuers who are comfortable doing them. (Or in cases of drowning or other times when there is likely a root respiratory cause for the arrest.)

I'm a CPR instructor for the American Red Cross and can say that this is the most correct comment so far. The rate of compressions is 100/min which sounds like "one and two and three and.... The ratio is 30:2. That goes for adults, children and infants. The only difference between the three is the depth of compressions.
 
2011-08-02 01:20:16 PM
Millennium: This. [Another One Bites The Dust has] only one real advantage over "Stayin' Alive," but it can be a big one in this situation: the beat remains constant over the course of the song.

Statistically speaking, it's also more apropos to the situation.

Vampyroteuthis Infernalis: I'm a CPR instructor for the American Red Cross and can say that this is the most correct comment so far.

I don't have any credentials, but I find the topic really interesting and have read a few of the papers, including last year's guidelines. The fact that CPR even has the success rate that it does in the first place is fascinating, and the fact that we're still finding ways to improve it is even more so.

(Might try to find a volunteer EMT service in a few years depending on how my life looks then, not that I'm under any illusion that is as... glamorous? a job as some may think.)
 
2011-08-02 01:32:00 PM
Once at church, a really old woman got up in the middle of the service and started walking out (she didn't feel well). As she got toward the back, she collapsed. My Mom went over to her, found no pulse and gave her one hard fist-slap on the chest. The old woman woke-up, was embaressed by all of the attention, refused any assistance and left.

/cool story
 
2011-08-02 05:10:35 PM
Vampyroteuthis Infernalis: evaned: Compression-only CPR is recommended if you are untrained or unwilling/unable to do breaths. All the big agencies (American Heart Association, American Red Cross, even the European Resuscitation Council) are still recommending breaths for professional rescuers and lay rescuers who are comfortable doing them. (Or in cases of drowning or other times when there is likely a root respiratory cause for the arrest.)

I'm a CPR instructor for the American Red Cross and can say that this is the most correct comment so far. The rate of compressions is 100/min which sounds like "one and two and three and.... The ratio is 30:2. That goes for adults, children and infants. The only difference between the three is the depth of compressions.


IIRC, if you have good CPR, an AED, and get shocked within a minute, your odds of survival are 90%. It drops by 10% a minute, and the average ambulance response time (in Canada) is 8:59.

/When the chorus of Stayin Aliiiiiiii, iiiiiiiii, iiiiiii, iiiiiive comes on that's when you give the breaths.
 
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