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2011-07-31 11:36:12 PM  

iheartscotch: Ok:

In theory; a three way is a very good thing. In practice, however, not so much.

csb time:
On the 5th date with my ex-girlfriend; she suggested that we have a three way with a friend of hers. I said, that if she (she being my ex-girlfriend) really wanted to; I would agree to that. My ex-girlfriend was excited that i agreed.

I didn't hear another word about it for another three weeks. My ex-girlfriend called me up and said she wanted to hang out. So, I went over to her house, everything was going great; then my ex-girlfriend gets a phone call. After the call, she says : "I have a friend that wants to come over; is that cool?". Being a idiot, I said yes. So, her friend shows up (another girl); everything was going well when they both jumped on me. I was a bit surprised to say the least. To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.

thus endith the story

/ Don't do it; it's just not worth it
// little head has no idea what it's talking bout; don't listen to it


Sounds like a good ending for all. You had a threesome, you dodged a psycho bullet, and the girls presumably got whatever they were expecting from it.
 
2011-07-31 11:43:22 PM  

nvmac: Benevolent Misanthrope: Dear men:

Please stop thinking with your dicks.

Sincerely,

Benevolent Misanthrope

/SRSLY - when you're in a dispute like that, you wouldn't fall for other shenanigans like participating in a money scam or being provoked into a fight in public. Don't use your penis for a brain. Penises are fun, but they just can't think.
//Obscure?

i1020.photobucket.com


I don't care... sincerely Mr. Happy
 
2011-07-31 11:46:42 PM  

tbyte: iheartscotch: Ok:

In theory; a three way is a very good thing. In practice, however, not so much.

csb time:
On the 5th date with my ex-girlfriend; she suggested that we have a three way with a friend of hers. I said, that if she (she being my ex-girlfriend) really wanted to; I would agree to that. My ex-girlfriend was excited that i agreed.

I didn't hear another word about it for another three weeks. My ex-girlfriend called me up and said she wanted to hang out. So, I went over to her house, everything was going great; then my ex-girlfriend gets a phone call. After the call, she says : "I have a friend that wants to come over; is that cool?". Being a idiot, I said yes. So, her friend shows up (another girl); everything was going well when they both jumped on me. I was a bit surprised to say the least. To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.

thus endith the story

/ Don't do it; it's just not worth it
// little head has no idea what it's talking bout; don't listen to it

Sounds like a good ending for all. You had a threesome, you dodged a psycho bullet, and the girls presumably got whatever they were expecting from it.


That wasn't the end of the relationship, or the last three way her and I had. The relationship continued for almost a year after that. In retrospect; that was a very bad choice. She was psycho, yes, but the wheels didn't come off the wagon till she started having affairs with other girls and lying to me about it.

/ I'll admit that I played along because I truly cared for her; it wasn't even about the screwing around with other girls, it was the lying about it to me that really upset me
 
2011-07-31 11:51:42 PM  

brigid_fitch: TheOther: Besides, the police were acting from a tip--a tip from the lawyer the guy's wife hired to screw him over. It's a slimy thing to do & his ex is a total biatch but I can't see how what she & the lawyer did was illegal.


The law enforcement involvement here is quite a bit deeper than just following up on a tip. The Detective is a retired Officer who is accused of setting up several similar arrests, including this one specifically designed to discredit testimony against fellow Officers accused of criminal wrongdoing.

He is also accused of selling drugs for the commander of the local narcotics task force, who allegedly stole them from evidence (and also used his badge to shut down competition to his brothel).
 
2011-07-31 11:54:00 PM  

CruiserTwelve: FTA: It's a stunning reversal of fortune for a 49-year-old man who, by his own admission, made a terrible decision to get behind the wheel that night in late 2008 after leaving the Old Spaghetti Factory in downtown Concord.

He took a date to the Old Spaghetti Factory? He got drunk at the Old Spaghetti Factory? I think I know why his ex-wife dumped him.


A woman takes off her shirt off at the old spaghetti factory ?

Suspect,

He followed the lady that had taken her shirt off and she wasn't arrested for drinking and driving ?

Suspect
 
2011-07-31 11:58:41 PM  
This situation is indeed dubious.

On the one hand the entire event from the beginning (match.com) was set up by a menage a trios. Just not the menage a trios he was hoping for.

A sting op like this cuts both ways, the ex wife def that she was worried for the kids safety is credible, so she seems to have a point in having him set up.

As for him he could have stayed sober, drunk a spitzer, or just caught a cab. He was taking a massive risk and should have known better.

Morally he was stung by crooks but he was an idiot to get a dui.

My decision is he keeps the dui but gets 50/50 custody. Ex wife and ilk get jail time.

.
 
2011-07-31 11:59:44 PM  

iheartscotch: To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.


Yeah, see, the lesson here is, "Don't have a threesome with that psycho iheartscotch dated, it's not worth it", not "don't have a threesome, it's not worth it".
 
2011-08-01 12:09:15 AM  

CruiserTwelve: FTA: It's a stunning reversal of fortune for a 49-year-old man who, by his own admission, made a terrible decision to get behind the wheel that night in late 2008 after leaving the Old Spaghetti Factory in downtown Concord.

He took a date to the Old Spaghetti Factory? He got drunk at the Old Spaghetti Factory? I think I know why his ex-wife dumped him.


Hey, you'd get good and drunk once you realized you were in Concord.
 
2011-08-01 12:09:29 AM  

Verzio: iheartscotch: To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.

Yeah, see, the lesson here is, "Don't have a threesome with that psycho iheartscotch dated, it's not worth it", not "don't have a threesome, it's not worth it".


I'm thinking if you need names google "Wal-mart shoplifting ring busted".
 
2011-08-01 12:10:48 AM  

Bugerz: BTW, your advice in your profile is the most true about dating ever.


It does sound like good advice, too bad I work in a greenhouse so I sweat all the goddamn time and deal with dirt on a minute by minute basis. Not saying his advice isn't good, just saying that my life makes it tough to follow his advice. Sucks because a greenhouse is really the MILFiest place on earth. It's also the co-ed with her first rental property-iest place on earth (outside of bars).
 
2011-08-01 12:11:08 AM  

Verzio: Yeah, see, the lesson here is, "Don't have a threesome with that psycho iheartscotch dated, it's not worth it", not "don't have a threesome, it's not worth it".


I don't know about that. I think many farkers would take a year of threesomes for the "heartbreak" of being cheated on.

Although, being fark, I'm guessing iheartscotch's bed was rated to support at least a tonne.
 
2011-08-01 12:12:58 AM  

Verzio: iheartscotch: To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.

Yeah, see, the lesson here is, "Don't have a threesome with that psycho iheartscotch dated, it's not worth it", not "don't have a threesome, it's not worth it".


the lesson here is, "Don't think exclusively with your wiener and you'll avoid situations like this"

/ three way bad; it changes the whole dynamic of any relationship
 
2011-08-01 12:14:19 AM  

Sensitiveborderarea: This is the kind of story that makes me feel good about not marrying an American woman. A large percentage of our women have been taught to slanderously destroy the reputation of their ex-husbands in court, take most of their money including future earnings, and use the husband's desire to see the children as a weapon. The end result is the children either end up despising their own mother after they figure out what she did, or the children hate men in general and can't ever have a good relationship of their own because they believe their father is as evil as the mother always said he was. Either way, our women destroy the future of their own families to gain advantage over their ex-spouses. It is very stupid because they lose something much more valuable than money, but they have been taught to be exceedingly stupid by watching their idiot boxes for many thousands of hours. Perhaps at least those TV's will be there to keep them them company when they die alone. Foreign women love to marry American men. Foreign men generally have very little interest in American women.


This sadly seems to be too true in my experience. I can think of, although I realize personal anecdotes are of little relevance, of about a dozen different people who hate their mothers for this particular reason, it's always kind of depressing to see.
 
2011-08-01 12:20:18 AM  

jingks: Verzio: Yeah, see, the lesson here is, "Don't have a threesome with that psycho iheartscotch dated, it's not worth it", not "don't have a threesome, it's not worth it".

I don't know about that. I think many farkers would take a year of threesomes for the "heartbreak" of being cheated on.

Although, being fark, I'm guessing iheartscotch's bed was rated to support at least a tonne.


threesomes are more trouble than they are worth; besides, 2 real girls of any size beat living in your parents' basement.
 
2011-08-01 12:27:51 AM  

James F. Campbell: GAT_00: So, never trust women?
This is better advice than one might think at first glance.


Just never trust anyone, you can't go wrong.

/You can still have friends. Just don't trust them entirely.
 
2011-08-01 12:31:57 AM  

Verzio: iheartscotch: To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.

Yeah, see, the lesson here is, "Don't have a threesome with that psycho iheartscotch dated, it's not worth it", not "don't have a threesome, it's not worth it".


Where are you going to find two woman who aren't psycho?
 
2011-08-01 12:32:14 AM  
FTFA: Susan Dutcher and her current attorney, Pamela Lauser, disagree that Dave Dutcher's arrest affected the divorce and child custody arrangement. They also argue that no one forced him to drink and drive. Susan Dutcher acknowledges she hired Butler, who was in the restaurant observing Dave Dutcher that night, but told the court she went to Butler only because she was worried that her husband of 15 years was drinking and driving with her kids in the car.

Really?

So she thinks her pre-teen or teenage kids are too dumb to know when daddy's been boozing? Or she just has such a shiatty relationship with them that she thinks they wouldn't tell?

Or is the answer C) her divorce is more about hurting her husband than leaving him?
 
2011-08-01 12:34:45 AM  
I'm An Idiot

Sensitiveborderarea: This is the kind of story that makes me feel good about not marrying an American woman. A large percentage of our women have been taught to slanderously destroy the reputation of their ex-husbands in court, take most of their money including future earnings, and use the husband's desire to see the children as a weapon. The end result is the children either end up despising their own mother after they figure out what she did, or the children hate men in general and can't ever have a good relationship of their own because they believe their father is as evil as the mother always said he was. Either way, our women destroy the future of their own families to gain advantage over their ex-spouses. It is very stupid because they lose something much more valuable than money, but they have been taught to be exceedingly stupid by watching their idiot boxes for many thousands of hours. Perhaps at least those TV's will be there to keep them them company when they die alone. Foreign women love to marry American men. Foreign men generally have very little interest in American women.

This sadly seems to be too true in my experience. I can think of, although I realize personal anecdotes are of little relevance, of about a dozen different people who hate their mothers for this particular reason, it's always kind of depressing to see.


I know about a dozen people like that too. Now the challenge for my wife and I is to raise our children to understand and reject these foolish and destructive patterns of behavior. I do not expect it to be an easy task.
 
2011-08-01 12:50:36 AM  
I don't get it.
 
2011-08-01 01:08:53 AM  
Amazing story.
 
2011-08-01 01:27:25 AM  

PhotoCindy: In the past, I have had numerous shots of alcoholic beverages, at bars. Sometimes, other people bought them for me, as was the style at the time. Yet, at the end of the night, without driving a car--I would always end up back home.

How is that even possible? With people encouraging me to drink? How the fark did I do that?

I guess we'll never know.


The guy buying the shots drove you home? Walk of shame? I dunno. - just throwing out guesses...

/cabs are often hard to find in non-large cities
//getting a ride is probably easier if you aren't a single middle-aged dude out by yourself
 
2011-08-01 01:36:33 AM  
My ex took half the bank account and her stuff. Deal of the century.

Oh yeah lets see. Getting a divorce, horny, in the middle of a custody battle? Two women being over friendly and trying to get you drunk?

a) Drive away
b) Run away
c) Go to the mens room and call the cops on them.

\Sin no more and fap in peace.
 
2011-08-01 01:42:28 AM  
Just don't get married. It's not worth it.
 
2011-08-01 02:10:18 AM  

doglover: It has has more power over the owner's brain


Or more accurately - it has access to a brain to exert power over.
 
2011-08-01 02:16:19 AM  

GAT_00:
So if you're being divorced, you should distrust all women because it's probably your ex-wife trying to get something to use against you in court?


FTFY
 
2011-08-01 02:37:02 AM  

TheOther: s the sex you didn't get that haunts your memory...the sex you did get haunts your immune system.


Only the sex I didn't get haunts my memory.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-08-01 02:37:16 AM  

Teen Wolf Blitzer: "Again, there was no plan to set up a DUI arrest; I only wanted Mr. Butler to watch Mr. Dutcher drink and drive so he could report this to the court for the safety and protection of my children," Susan Dutcher wrote in a declaration to the court.

Seems legit


See, the problem with that is it translates into this, making no assumptions about the two women: "I paid someone to stalk my ex-husband so if he did something illegal, he'd get busted and I'd have ammo for a better divorce settlement."
 
2011-08-01 03:19:17 AM  
I think the DUI charges should stick, sadly. I'm sure he's a good guy and he probably wouldn't have gotten a DUI without this farked up situation, but they didn't point a gun at his head and force him to drive. They guided him in that direction, but he still had the free will to decide to drink and drive.

I also think anyone involved in this evil set up should be charged for their reckless acts. The ex not only should be charged, but everything about the divorce settlement (including custody) needs to be revisited. She's shown her real colors and we have to - gasp - think of the children.

And to anyone who is using this situation as evidence as to why American women have zero integrity - there are assholes in every country of both genders, you are just choosing to see what you want to see.
 
2011-08-01 03:20:29 AM  

Mentat: TWX: Mentat: Chariset: 1. You cannot get busted for a DUI if you never drive after drinking.

Wanna bet?

According to the article linked from the article you sent, he was sitting in the truck with the engine running. It didn't sound like he was sitting in the passenger's seat either, and it was August in Missouri, so it wasn't like the truck needed to be running to keep him alive due to having the heat on.

If I were the judge in a case where it was summer in Arizona or winter in the northern half of the country, I'd potentially be lenient on a first-time DUI arrestee if the vehicle had been started but not moved, if it was started to let the climate controls work. Otherwise, if the engine is running and the drunk person is behind the wheel then I'd say that a DUI could well apply, as in your example.

A) He wasn't driving. Arresting him based on presumed intent is nothing but thought crime.
B) MUPD are notorious for these kinds of DUI's. They'll grab you for anything.


That and it's been between 90° and a 100° in the midwest for the last couple of weeks. So it was problably to run the air conditioning, while waiting.
 
2011-08-01 03:44:15 AM  
I've seen a lot of debate in this thread. Honestly, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The key to this story is that massive corruption was uncovered in this police department by internal affairs. I know, weird, right? The police get away with this crep everyday, thousands of times a day. It just makes me wonder who the police ended up trying to screw over that brought about this change, because you must know nothing would have changed otherwise, not even temporarily. I don't even see this exposure of (gasp) police corruption as a victory. This will result in a few paid suspensions, and some BS training program which everyone laughs at...this is only in this locality, too. This activity is sure to continue on a nationwide scale because there are no consequences, and give it less than 6 months and that locality will be right back to business as usual. This isn't a victory. This man will get nothing in reality. The charges will not be reversed, you won't find a judge on Earth that will reopen a divorce that has been finalized (especially if criminal activity was involved; they call it "improper" not "illegal" even though that is what it is) and this man will not get an adjustment on visitation because some moron beaurocrat will get the notion that he will actualy hurt his own children to get back at her (there is way too much cocaine use by beaurocrats in this country btw). If I were him, I would consider filing a multi-million dollar lawsuit and moving to a different state when he wins. He won't get his children, but he will have enough money to fark a few over that were personally involved in this impropriety.
 
2011-08-01 03:55:57 AM  

iheartscotch: Ok:

In theory; a three way is a very good thing. In practice, however, not so much.

csb time:
On the 5th date with my ex-girlfriend; she suggested that we have a three way with a friend of hers. I said, that if she (she being my ex-girlfriend) really wanted to; I would agree to that. My ex-girlfriend was excited that i agreed.

I didn't hear another word about it for another three weeks. My ex-girlfriend called me up and said she wanted to hang out. So, I went over to her house, everything was going great; then my ex-girlfriend gets a phone call. After the call, she says : "I have a friend that wants to come over; is that cool?". Being a idiot, I said yes. So, her friend shows up (another girl); everything was going well when they both jumped on me. I was a bit surprised to say the least. To cut a long story short; my ex-girlfriend felt that I payed more "attention" to the other girl than I did to her.

thus endith the story

/ Don't do it; it's just not worth it
// little head has no idea what it's talking bout; don't listen to it


Similar story, bro:

GF (now ex-) of several years kept suggesting a 3-way, I kept playing it cool saying "if you want to, I'll do it". Got a call saying a friend of hers was there and did I want to come over and play, and I made pretty good time getting there. After the 3-way (which was awkward and not partcularly inspiring), GF and her friend left to go shopping.

1/2 hour later while chilling in the bed I got a call from GF saying she didn't think we should continue to see each other and that I should leave. I said fine, grabbed my gear and left. When she called later that day and started backtracking I learned that I was supposed to have declined the invitation and that I paid too much attention to the friend. Oh, and that I got there too quickly, whining that I was always late when I came to see her but I dropped everything and rushed over that day. (Guilty as charged).

It's not a bad idea for a guy to keep his eyes open at all times, particularly when someone involves your dick in the dynamic.
 
2011-08-01 04:11:04 AM  
Dirty cops should get a really long time in prison, like a minimum of twenty years. We have to stop tolerating this from cops as we're losing our free society. We're creeping towards fascism.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-08-01 04:42:57 AM  
brigid_fitch

I meant solicitation to commit a crime, not solicitation as in prostitution; I should have written it in full. See "inchoate offense". Soliciting the crime of DUI is urging the man to drive, knowing he's drunk. Aiding and abetting, or accessory before the fact, is intentionally providing assistance to commit the crime.
 
2011-08-01 04:51:11 AM  

Ashtrey: Bugerz: BTW, your advice in your profile is the most true about dating ever.

It does sound like good advice, too bad I work in a greenhouse so I sweat all the goddamn time and deal with dirt on a minute by minute basis. Not saying his advice isn't good, just saying that my life makes it tough to follow his advice. Sucks because a greenhouse is really the MILFiest place on earth. It's also the co-ed with her first rental property-iest place on earth (outside of bars).


Hippie chicks have a completely different idea of "good hygiene," where such things might put your in touch with the mother spirit. As always, tailor the basic rules to your specific situation. Reeking like a wild boar usually only attracts fat Nascar chicks, though, whereas eating a hippie diet makes you hardly smell at all. Veganism automatically gives you something in common with that sort!
 
2011-08-01 04:56:57 AM  

reubendaley: GF (now ex-) of several years kept suggesting a 3-way, I kept playing it cool saying "if you want to, I'll do it". Got a call saying a friend of hers was there and did I want to come over and play, and I made pretty good time getting there. After the 3-way (which was awkward and not partcularly inspiring), GF and her friend left to go shopping.

1/2 hour later while chilling in the bed I got a call from GF saying she didn't think we should continue to see each other and that I should leave. I said fine, grabbed my gear and left. When she called later that day and started backtracking I learned that I was supposed to have declined the invitation and that I paid too much attention to the friend. Oh, and that I got there too quickly, whining that I was always late when I came to see her but I dropped everything and rushed over that day. (Guilty as charged).


That's the best case of "don't open Pandora's Box if you can't handle what comes out" that I've seen in a while. Don't test people. It just never turns out well.

CS,B.
 
2011-08-01 05:13:58 AM  
Sounds like he was snared in a booby trap.
 
2011-08-01 09:06:03 AM  
1. woman fools man into marriage
2. woman freezes/beyotches man into whipped, emotionally hollow husk
3. woman manipulates discarded husk, wringing him one last time for any remaining self-respect and money before stealing his children.

/weaker sex my arse
 
2011-08-01 09:09:19 AM  

zz9: GAT_00: Benevolent Misanthrope: Never trust anyone you're in a lawsuit against.

So if you're being divorced, you should distrust all women because it's probably your ex-wife trying to get something to use against you in court?

If you're in the middle of a divorce and for the first time in your life two hot women start suggesting a threesome then yes, you should stop to think that there is probably something up.


And found the first one through Match.com? That should have been a red flag right there.
 
2011-08-01 09:50:39 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: GAT_00: Benevolent Misanthrope: Dear men:

Please stop thinking with your dicks.

Sincerely,

Benevolent Misanthrope

/SRSLY - when you're in a dispute like that, you wouldn't fall for other shenanigans like participating in a money scam or being provoked into a fight in public. Don't use your penis for a brain. Penises are fun, but they just can't think.
//Obscure?

So, never trust women?

Never trust anyone you're in a lawsuit against. And no matter how hot any woman is, if farking her can come back to bite you in the ass, don't do it.


So don't fark women.
 
2011-08-01 09:54:46 AM  
You'd be surprised how liberating it is to simply eliminate the whole 'female/mate' thing can be. It's like going out and buying 500 pairs of every type of shoe you'd ever need - now 'shoes' and the assorted hassles, are eliminated from your list of things to do. It's quite freeing.
 
2011-08-01 10:00:29 AM  

fnordfocus: brigid_fitch: TheOther: Besides, the police were acting from a tip--a tip from the lawyer the guy's wife hired to screw him over. It's a slimy thing to do & his ex is a total biatch but I can't see how what she & the lawyer did was illegal.

The law enforcement involvement here is quite a bit deeper than just following up on a tip. The Detective is a retired Officer who is accused of setting up several similar arrests, including this one specifically designed to discredit testimony against fellow Officers accused of criminal wrongdoing.

He is also accused of selling drugs for the commander of the local narcotics task force, who allegedly stole them from evidence (and also used his badge to shut down competition to his brothel).


To clarify, I'm hardly defending the ex, the lawyer, or any scumbag involved w/setting this guy up. All I'm saying is that I'm not seeing how this particular setup was illegal. It's not entrapment as I understand it, nobody forced the guy to get into his car or even meet with the women. From all the articles you linked (and I linked to one previously, as well), indictments have come from a range of charges: stealing from the evidence locker, buying guns for minors, lying to investigators, and tampering with evidence. I can't find any indictments that are a DIRECT result of the guy in TFA. The connection seems to be that, due to a large number of these questionable DUIs, the IAD started its investigation & fell upon something far more sinister, but that the "dirty DUIs" aren't in and of themselves illegal.
 
2011-08-01 10:06:33 AM  

Resonant: GAT_00: Again, you're supposed to distrust all women?

I am very glad that I am gay.


Lucky bastard...
 
2011-08-01 10:13:51 AM  

ZAZ: brigid_fitch

I meant solicitation to commit a crime, not solicitation as in prostitution; I should have written it in full. See "inchoate offense". Soliciting the crime of DUI is urging the man to drive, knowing he's drunk. Aiding and abetting, or accessory before the fact, is intentionally providing assistance to commit the crime.


Ahhhh, I was not aware of inhoate offense or solicitation of a crime. This has been an eye-opener:

Solicitation has in the U.S. these unique elements:

a) the encouraging, bribing, requesting, or commanding a person
b) to commit a substantive crime,
c) with the intent that the person solicited actually commit the crime.

Like I've said all along, IANAL. Always happy to learn something new! Thanks!
 
2011-08-01 10:19:41 AM  

brigid_fitch: fnordfocus: brigid_fitch: TheOther: Besides, the police were acting from a tip--a tip from the lawyer the guy's wife hired to screw him over. It's a slimy thing to do & his ex is a total biatch but I can't see how what she & the lawyer did was illegal.

The law enforcement involvement here is quite a bit deeper than just following up on a tip. The Detective is a retired Officer who is accused of setting up several similar arrests, including this one specifically designed to discredit testimony against fellow Officers accused of criminal wrongdoing.

He is also accused of selling drugs for the commander of the local narcotics task force, who allegedly stole them from evidence (and also used his badge to shut down competition to his brothel).

To clarify, I'm hardly defending the ex, the lawyer, or any scumbag involved w/setting this guy up. All I'm saying is that I'm not seeing how this particular setup was illegal. It's not entrapment as I understand it, nobody forced the guy to get into his car or even meet with the women. From all the articles you linked (and I linked to one previously, as well), indictments have come from a range of charges: stealing from the evidence locker, buying guns for minors, lying to investigators, and tampering with evidence. I can't find any indictments that are a DIRECT result of the guy in TFA. The connection seems to be that, due to a large number of these questionable DUIs, the IAD started its investigation & fell upon something far more sinister, but that the "dirty DUIs" aren't in and of themselves illegal.


If they recieved information saying that a certain person was leaving the bar adn was intoxicated, they have the duty to stop the person before they enter the car. Not wait down the road so they can right a ticket.
 
2011-08-01 10:52:04 AM  

greenbeetle: he still had the free will to decide to drink and drive.



You obviously don't have a penis. Free will's got nothing to do with it.
 
2011-08-01 10:54:33 AM  

brigid_fitch: ZAZ: Mugato

Accessory and solicitation are intent crimes. The evidence suggests her goal was to get him drunk and encourage him to drive.

Accessory to what? And what were the girls soliciting? They weren't getting paid by the guy, just the ex's lawyer. And conspiring to convince someone that he's going to spend the night w/2 hot chicks in a hot tub still isn't illegal.

The guy got played, there's no doubt about it & I feel bad for him. But when you get right down to it, he made a succession of REALLY bad choices & got snagged. Regardless of what the girls told him or what they did, he still made the ultimate decision to get into that car & drive after drinking.


Which is why he's still guilty.

However, the two women who were buying and giving him shots, while flashing him, had the intent of getting him arrested for a DUI. That is called being an accessory to a crime, and or soliciting a crime. Soliciting doesn't just refer to prostitution. It doesn't matter who paid them, or even if they were paid, as long as their intent was to create a situation in which he committed a crime. Sure, he could have refused, which is why he is still guilty... but he also wasn't taking these actions in a vacuum, he was being influenced....

And since the arresting officer says he got a tip off from his buddy, the former cop current private investigator hired to 'catch him drunk driving' for the custody battle.... and since the girls told mr. drunk idiot to 'follow them...' and since they drove right past where the cop was waiting...

well, it kind of seems like the private eye, and the two women are pretty damn complicit in the crime. They decided it was A-OK to attempt to unleash a drunk driver on the public, so that they could get paid. Depending on who knew what and when, the ex-wife may indeed also be complicit, if this was her "conspiracy."


Basically, just because he should probably still be considered guilty, doesn't mean that those others shouldn't be as well, and if the situation was all enacted to have an impact on some other legal battle, then it should be taken into consideration there too.

Oh, as an aside, all the 'thinking with his dick' comments are about as sexist as saying a woman is being a 'biatch' because of her period. If you know the latter is kind of an unacceptably sexist thing to say, but don't mind the former, well, that's just kind of sad now isn't it.
 
2011-08-01 11:15:34 AM  

Abox: I never took seriously any contact by smoking-hot, model caliber babes on internet dating sites. If you can't tell the difference between a real chick and a scam then you need the lesson.


This. Plus, the less you have to work for it, the more you're gonna pay for it.
 
2011-08-01 11:39:26 AM  
Mustakraken

Oh crap you brought up REAL LAW!....What were you trying to accomplish? Introducing facts into a FARK thread?
 
2011-08-01 11:43:23 AM  

Mustakraken: Which is why he's still guilty.


Actually the DUI arrest and all subsequent evidence falls under fruit of the poisonous tree.
 
2011-08-01 11:44:08 AM  

digitalrain: GAT_00: Benevolent Misanthrope: Never trust anyone you're in a lawsuit against.

So if you're being divorced, you should distrust all women because it's probably your ex-wife trying to get something to use against you in court?

The morning I walked in on my then-best-friend riding my then-husband in our bed,
he kept trying to get me to get mad at him and hit him. Fortunately, I knew what a
manipulative SOB he was and that if I *did* give in to the overwhelming desire to hit
him, either a) he'd hit me back, b) he'd cry spousal abuse and use it against me, or
c) both.


You're name could have been very fitting had that story turned out differently.
 
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