Great list and right on the mark. Unfortunately, "Showing Your Wife a List of Things She Should Never Say" is #1 on the list of "10,000 Things You Should Never Do If you Ever Want to Have Sex Again."

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The "You're just like your father" one is particularly damaging mid-orgasm.

Win!

The only thing I could think of as a comeback would be...

"Yeah, that's what your sister said, too."

/Or yell out her mom's name.

#5. My partner loves when I say this. WHY- simply because it shows he can't do it right and he thinks he will never have to do it again. THIS week he learned that idea was WRONG.
#6. There comes a breaking point in every relationship where the truth has to be told. Yes, you are never suppose to use YOU it is blaming. You are suppose to say "I feel that you..." BUT seriously sometimes your pissed.
#7. If I did not say phrases like this he would leave the house in a red tshirt green shorts and black and white shoes--so really STFU a dude is a dude-sometimes he does not dress well.
That is all.

chaoswolf: Vasectomies are reversible. Is it a pleasant experience to get one? No. But it's relatively quick and the heal time isn't bad.

Man up and get snipped for your ladies, gents. The pill is bad for them and condoms suck.

They are reversible but the success rate is very low and the procedure is much more difficult since they've actually got to try and reattach tubing that's usually a) had a section removed b) is cauterized shut and c) stitched over. It's usually written into the consent form you sign and both my doctor and the urologist who did mine made sure to mention it as well.

You're dead on about the quickness, though. It was less than 30 minutes from the time my pants came off till they went back on and I walked.. well, hobbled out to a waiting friend's car.

/Had one 8 years ago, one of the best decisions I've ever made.

aagrajag: Aunt Crabby: aagrajag: Also, not all women enjoy receiving oral.

You're hanging around with the wrong women. They're either repressed or stinky.

/prolly both


So, people are supposed to be honest about what they like and don't like, but if a woman doesn't like something "all" women are suppose to like, she is defective?

/Why would anyone fake it?
//But it's supposed to be simultaneous, syncopated and earth-shaking on command automatically--like pushing a button-or she is stinky and repressed.

You chose your username well.

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My wife and I have a great sex life, mostly because we talk to each other. That's the only real advice to take from this thread: communicate.

Oh, I chose my name well indeed. Crabby is a lifestyle choice. It suits me.

I agree that communication is important. I was just disagreeing with your original comment. I know for a fact that some healthy, sexually active women simply do not like oral sex performed on them, even if every new partner wants to try it and show her what she was missing when all the other partners did it "wrong". If a person says, "I do not like X, I prefer Y", I think it's best to just do Y, unless you have some real need to do X.

/Different strokes
//Get off my lawn

Poison Appleseeds: Peki: If your self-esteem weren't wrapped up in your schlong,

You're asking to undo a few million years of evolution.

Men have pretty simple sex organs. Women not so much. Why is it wrong for a man to want to make a woman as pleased as she makes him?

I want my woman happy, I don't want her to lie, and I don't want to repeat a performance she doesn't like just because she lies to try to make me feel good.

aagrajag: shizukanavix: Peki: \turns in her girl card for spilling secrets

I wasn't aware of these secrets- I just orgasm.

\Poor girl, doesn't your significant other know that pre-coital muff diving is NOT optional?

I prefer to intersperse diving with penising, but the wife says that the sensitivity is lost.

I've been known to fark up my eating...but i'd NEVER eat up my farking.

Dictatorial_Flair: chaoswolf: Vasectomies are reversible.

Not always. There is also a significant chance that you won't be able to conceive even after a successful reversal, especially if there was a fair span of time between the vasectomy and the reversal.

If you want kids after a vasectomy, doctors can take a sperm sample with a needle from further down the vas and use that to inseminate. Repeat as necessary.

Need Help Soonish: beer4breakfast: Need Help Soonish: Be honest with your lover, or he will never learn how to make you cum.

Guys tend to be task orientated and love it when the girl they're with tells them how to get off. No guy will be offended if a girl says he's going to fast, too slow, too hard, too soft... Probably the only thing a guy will be offended by is if the girl says his weener is too small.

Or even better, SHOW him how to get you off... That's fun for everyone too :)

///Serously girls... grab a toy, and show him what makes you cum and what doesn't.
///Also, LEARN YOUR OWN BODIES... How is your fellow gonna make you cum if YOU don't even know what works?

That's not bad advice, but be aware that for some people, it's at least 50% psychological, so that it isn't just doing a certain thing that works, it's feeling a certain way. Some people don't want a partner who just does the mechanical things one could do on one's own. It might be about setting up a particular frame of mind or emotional connection first. That's a little harder to explain as a play by play.

/Most adults know what gets them off. It's explaining the intangibles that may be difficult.
//Not everyone is "task orientated" about sex. Some may need more of a sense of passion or feelings of some sort.

I once took a new job. It was a pay increase, but the more important thing was that I wanted to work with people I liked. I have been at jobs where I envied the metro bus driver on the way home.

So she ridiculed the offer, which I might add was well over double hers. She screamed and cried to mom. They then wrote me up a nice letter to be read, as if I had a set of balls I suppose, requiring a 50% increase in pay.

Reminds me of the old joke about man gets vice president position, and the wife biatches that VP jobs are a dime a dozen.

Needless to say.. got rid of her.

If you need something to push you over the edge and self terminate, I do have her number.

I faked it sometimes when I was younger and had a lot of hangups and was unable to get out of my own head long enough to orgasm, but I neither need nor want to do that any more. Accepting my body and being bold enough to ask for what I need to get there has made all the difference in the world. Oral is mandatory and reciprocal for mr and I like giving and recieving so long as I'm with someone who does too.

And I like my bacon crispy.

Bondith: I said "well, OK, let's not make decisions while angry," and within ten minutes she'd managed to turn the conversation around to how much I sucked and needed to improve.

Seriously, how do girls do that?


Good question. I want to know that too.

Ladies? any answers?

Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

ttintagel
Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

Is that the one that goes "I am a leaf on the wind, see how I HRRACK!"?

Aunt Crabby: Need Help Soonish: beer4breakfast: Need Help Soonish: Be honest with your lover, or he will never learn how to make you cum.

Guys tend to be task orientated and love it when the girl they're with tells them how to get off. No guy will be offended if a girl says he's going to fast, too slow, too hard, too soft... Probably the only thing a guy will be offended by is if the girl says his weener is too small.

Or even better, SHOW him how to get you off... That's fun for everyone too :)

///Serously girls... grab a toy, and show him what makes you cum and what doesn't.
///Also, LEARN YOUR OWN BODIES... How is your fellow gonna make you cum if YOU don't even know what works?

That's not bad advice, but be aware that for some people, it's at least 50% psychological, so that it isn't just doing a certain thing that works, it's feeling a certain way. Some people don't want a partner who just does the mechanical things one could do on one's own. It might be about setting up a particular frame of mind or emotional connection first. That's a little harder to explain as a play by play.

/Most adults know what gets them off. It's explaining the intangibles that may be difficult.
//Not everyone is "task orientated" about sex. Some may need more of a sense of passion or feelings of some sort.

Im, well aware that women are coached from a young age to equate sex with love... Im also living proof that such coaching can be undone.

Love is not sex. Sex is not love... And if your after movie sex every time, because thats what you think good sex is, your gonna be disappointed. (And gentlemen... same thing goes for porn-style sex... it is not something to aim for)

Sex at its best is when its between two people who really wanna fark each other silly, and have the mechanical know-how to pull it off. Its sweaty, dirty, and not ALL about getting off, but about all the ways you can light up the other persons body with pleasure... You are right in that it's a frame of mind... but to get the best out of sex... you better learn how to re-frame it!!

ttintagel: Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

If you not in the mood... why are you farking in the first place?

Their is such a dishonesty to it... You seriously do this? Really?

///I has a sad for you girls...
///Farking is sooooo much better when it's honest

Peki: FarkLiberty: Bondith: I said "well, OK, let's not make decisions while angry," and within ten minutes she'd managed to turn the conversation around to how much I sucked and needed to improve.

Seriously, how do girls do that?


Good question. I want to know that too.

Ladies? any answers?

It's the waterworks. You guys get so weird when we cry, makes it very easy to turn things around, and we can easily play the victim. At least that's what I've seen.

My SIL is currently primo at doing this; I see right through it, while the rest of the family wonders how she can throw tantrums and yet everyone else feels responsible.

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to defend against it. I myself have a weakness towards crying women, and it just simply somehow becomes a biological imperative to stop whatever is making her cry (something my bio dad once told me, so I stole it). If any of you guys have advice, I'm all ears.

There is nothing wrong with crying, but crying shouldn't control others' behavior. I think you should treat it the same way you would an overwhelmed child. "You look upset. Let me give you a few minutes to cool down. Here's a quiet room. We'll be here when you are ready to talk."

That may come off as a little condescending, so I may not say I all out loud. I may try to put my arm around her (if she seems open to it) and lead her to the quiet room/corner. Then I'd give her tissues and a glass of water. I'd take my time getting them, and sneak away after providing the water.

This has never worked on a person I am having sex with. I always end up siting with my partners if they have a emotional issue. Luckily, none of my partners have been "criers" but I have spent a few nights talking someone down from a bad place. Some times that just comes with the person you love.

/It's healthy to express emotions
//It's not good to loose control all the time

Need Help Soonish: ttintagel: Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

If you not in the mood... why are you farking in the first place?



Not farking is certainly one of the options; in fact, it's listed as #2 in the first set above. However, in a long-term relationship, there are bound to be times when it isn't the best one for both parties.

Clawhammer:

Wow, this really IS sad. You can't have an honest conversation with a man about your body? Or is it that the man won't listen?

If you doubt that there are a lot of men who don't want to hear it, reread this thread. There are a LOT of men who aren't getting the message that sometimes there really is nothing they can do differently to affect the outcome. There are times when I can tell you EXACTLY what I want, and you can do it EXACTLY the way you should, and it STILL doesn't happen. It's not like following a recipe.


I understand a woman won't orgasm every time, but I also understand that there can be a lot of enjoyment without climax.


True, and that was covered in my post.


Lying about orgasm is like shooting yourself in the foot.
I mean who does it benefit? Your man will never learn how to please you, and you will be frustrated, angry, and bitter.



I definitely don't (and didn't) recommend it if there's any way around it. Ideally, the man will listen and believe you if you tell him there's nothing he can do. But he doesn't always want to accept that (re-read the tread if you don;t believe that there are men who won't.) I was telling MEN that if they don't want to be lied to, they should be prepared to listen to the truth and accept it

ttintagel: Need Help Soonish: ttintagel: Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

If you not in the mood... why are you farking in the first place?



Not farking is certainly one of the options; in fact, it's listed as #2 in the first set above. However, in a long-term relationship, there are bound to be times when it isn't the best one for both parties.

Im sorry... no matter how tired... no matter WHAT kind of day I have had... If my old man gives me the eyebrow wiggle, it is ON.

You see, your attitude on sex is what colors that statement, and makes me wonder about the quality of sex your having... NOTHING makes me feel as good as really good sex. NOTHING can make a bad day better than to orgasm three or four times. If your having really great sex, you don't see it as a chore, or have a "meh" attitude about it. Of course if your not honest with your partner in the first place, and fake it, your never gonna have really god sex in the first place... which allows your "meh" attitude to continue.

///Catch 22 can be fixed with a proper 69 I think :)

Need Help Soonish: Love is not sex. Sex is not love... And if your after movie sex every time, because thats what you think good sex is, your gonna be disappointed. (And gentlemen... same thing goes for porn-style sex... it is not something to aim for)

Sex at its best is when its between two people who really wanna fark each other silly, and have the mechanical know-how to pull it off. Its sweaty, dirty, and not ALL about getting off, but about all the ways you can light up the other persons body with pleasure... You are right in that it's a frame of mind... but to get the best out of sex... you better learn how to re-frame it!!

It doesn't always have to be "love" but all the good sex I've had has involve emotional connections. I've had a few one night stands, but they were honestly kind of "meh", even though I had thought I was all lusty. Personally, I like it best when I know and trust the other person and feel some sort of emotional connection. Separating sex and emotions doesn't work for me. In fact, it is a turn off in my case.

Also, sometimes in long term relationships, good sex involves setting up the right frame of mind. It doesn't have to be hearts and flowers, but for some people it has to be more than the mere mechanics. If it's just about the physical, then all I need is a vibrator. I agree that sometimes sweaty and dirty sex is good--but sometimes it's nice to be romanced too. If you are going for sweaty and dirty, there still has to be a lot of passion.

You are entitled to like what you like, but for many people sex goes beyond the mechanics. For example, if a person, let's say a male, asks a partner, let's say a female, to masturbate to show him how to make her orgasm, when she already told him what she really wants is for him to pick up his dirty laundry and let her have a beer and maybe talk a bit before jumping in the sack, then the fact that the guy thinks it's about doing a certain thing to her body may cause him not to listen when she is telling him what she really needs.

/I am old. It is technically possible for me to change my mind, but highly unlikely.
//What I like is not what everyone likes, but I do know what I like.

Need Help Soonish: ttintagel: Need Help Soonish: ttintagel: Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

If you not in the mood... why are you farking in the first place?



Not farking is certainly one of the options; in fact, it's listed as #2 in the first set above. However, in a long-term relationship, there are bound to be times when it isn't the best one for both parties.

Im sorry... no matter how tired... no matter WHAT kind of day I have had... If my old man gives me the eyebrow wiggle, it is ON.



That's great for you, and I'm very happy. that you're happy. But if you think everybody's exactly the same, you're wrong. The key is finding the right partner, whose idiosyncrasies mesh with your own.

The Mind Boggles: Aunt Crabby: Need Help Soonish: beer4breakfast: Need Help Soonish: Be honest with your lover, or he will never learn how to make you cum.

Guys tend to be task orientated and love it when the girl they're with tells them how to get off. No guy will be offended if a girl says he's going to fast, too slow, too hard, too soft... Probably the only thing a guy will be offended by is if the girl says his weener is too small.

Or even better, SHOW him how to get you off... That's fun for everyone too :)

///Serously girls... grab a toy, and show him what makes you cum and what doesn't.
///Also, LEARN YOUR OWN BODIES... How is your fellow gonna make you cum if YOU don't even know what works?

That's not bad advice, but be aware that for some people, it's at least 50% psychological, so that it isn't just doing a certain thing that works, it's feeling a certain way. Some people don't want a partner who just does the mechanical things one could do on one's own. It might be about setting up a particular frame of mind or emotional connection first. That's a little harder to explain as a play by play.

/Most adults know what gets them off. It's explaining the intangibles that may be difficult.
//Not everyone is "task orientated" about sex. Some may need more of a sense of passion or feelings of some sort.

hangups are everywhere. i've been surrounded my entire life in a community where sex is nothing but pure evil unless its done in a marital bed and for procreation purposes only. "sex is bad, kinky stuff is evil." fark that noise. i like sex. give me messy, sweaty farking in every position imaginable. give me oral, give me anal, give me titty farking, i enjoy masturbating. i know my body very well and the 6 distinct orgasms that i can have and i am more than willing to show my partner each of them as he watches or puts his hands on mine and feels what i do. the best thing you can do for yourself and your lover is to know your own body and be a willing participant in bed.

/fark that article, communication is the key.

*sniff*

I think I love you :)

This is a perfect article for an old joke.

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing...she's already been told...twice.

Seriously though, if you can actually relate to this garbage, you need serious help. Maybe it's time to cut your losses. If you have children by the time this garbage starts, I hope your children don't have to see your wife screwing her boss on your kitchen table, or your husband screwing some two bit stripper crackhead in your bed. It would be better for single people to take note, though. Yes, you should weed out crazy before you buy a farm in Texas.

Need Help Soonish: ttintagel: Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

If you not in the mood... why are you farking in the first place?

Their is such a dishonesty to it... You seriously do this? Really?

///I has a sad for you girls...
///Farking is sooooo much better when it's honest

Talk to me after a couple decades of marriage, a few kids, and menopause.

The Mind Boggles: Most adults know what gets them off. It's explaining the intangibles that may be difficult.
//Not everyone is "task orientated" about sex. Some may need more of a sense of passion or feelings of some sort.

hangups are everywhere. i've been surrounded my entire life in a community where sex is nothing but pure evil unless its done in a marital bed and for procreation purposes only. "sex is bad, kinky stuff is evil." fark that noise. i like sex. give me messy, sweaty farking in every position imaginable. give me oral, give me anal, give me titty farking, i enjoy masturbating. i know my body very well and the 6 distinct orgasms that i can have and i am more than willing to show my partner each of them as he watches or puts his hands on mine and feels what i do. the best thing you can do for yourself and your lover is to know your own body and be a willing participant in bed.

/fark that article, communication is the key.

I agree with most of what you said, but emotions are not a "hang up". Some people don't want to separate sex and feelings. Others do, and that's fine for them if they have partners that want the same type of sex. That doesn't mean that sex for sex sake is "bad" or that you shouldn't enjoy all that you enjoy.

Some people really enjoy sex more when they are relaxed and feel a connection with their partner. A person can sometimes get in the mood, but it is nice if the partner is willing to play along in the emotional foreplay. For this type, all the mechanical; techniques and self knowledge won't work unless they have someone who is also willing to meet their emotional needs at the same time.

/There is nothing bad about sex or about emotions
//There is nothing wrong with seeing sex as an emotional expression and a part of the overall relationship either

Peki: It's the waterworks.

It's NOT the waterworks. I'm serious. No crying involved and the conversation still gets turned around to make us look like the bad guys.

So, like, the convo has "calmed down" and in ten minutes, like previously stated, it's turned into how much of a selfish asshole I/we are.

How does *THAT* work?

/maybe it's the threat of waterworks?
//dunno
///still asking
////SLASHIES!

Gramma: Need Help Soonish: ttintagel: Guys, there are times when we just plain don't feel it, and absolutely nothing is going to get us there. There is no amount of "a little to the left, harder, softer, faster, slower, no, right there, up a little" that's going to bring us off at those times. We know our bodies, and we know when it's going to happen and when it isn't. You can't change that, and it's not your fault. When you refuse to get that through your skulls, would you rather we told a little white lie, or would you rather we locked you out of the bedroom altogether?

If you accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. Sex where we don't come
2. No sex at all

If you refuse to accept that we know when we're not going to come no matter what you do, there are two options:

1. We fake it
2. We keep going for hours, long after we're both exhausted, frustrated, and unhappy

Those are your options. I advise you to learn the Serenity Prayer.

If you not in the mood... why are you farking in the first place?

Their is such a dishonesty to it... You seriously do this? Really?

///I has a sad for you girls...
///Farking is sooooo much better when it's honest

Talk to me after a couple decades of marriage, a few kids, and menopause.

I have three kids, and was married for 8 years.

Kids are no excuse for bad sex :)

1. Great, I have sexual dysfunction already. No need to lie about it.
2. Bf's dad is dead, and I never met him. So...
3. Funny thing is he's the one who always talks about finding a new job. I always have to convince him that it's a bad idea to look for a new job right now, and that he's incredibly lucky to have one already.
4. My mom's never really warned me about anything relationship-wise. Other than "don't date scumbags".
5. I have a bad habit of this sometimes.
6. afaik, I've tried not to say this.
7. The worst I've said is "That doesn't look good on you." Never said "You look fat in that." He's pretty skinny.
8. Oh dear, he has this obnoxious friend who has no manners at all. He hates him too, so I have no idea why he hangs out with him. I usually say "If he's going to be there, I'm not going" (we don't live together).
9. Don't have kids.

Gramma: ///Farking is sooooo much better when it's honest

Talk to me after a couple decades of marriage, a few kids, and menopause.


Hee hee. I think I love you.
In a platonic way, of course.

/Newsletter?

The Mind Boggles: Need Help Soonish: The Mind Boggles: Aunt Crabby: Need Help Soonish: beer4breakfast: Need Help Soonish: Be honest with your lover, or he will never learn how to make you cum.

Guys tend to be task orientated and love it when the girl they're with tells them how to get off. No guy will be offended if a girl says he's going to fast, too slow, too hard, too soft... Probably the only thing a guy will be offended by is if the girl says his weener is too small.

Or even better, SHOW him how to get you off... That's fun for everyone too :)

///Serously girls... grab a toy, and show him what makes you cum and what doesn't.
///Also, LEARN YOUR OWN BODIES... How is your fellow gonna make you cum if YOU don't even know what works?

That's not bad advice, but be aware that for some people, it's at least 50% psychological, so that it isn't just doing a certain thing that works, it's feeling a certain way. Some people don't want a partner who just does the mechanical things one could do on one's own. It might be about setting up a particular frame of mind or emotional connection first. That's a little harder to explain as a play by play.

/Most adults know what gets them off. It's explaining the intangibles that may be difficult.
//Not everyone is "task orientated" about sex. Some may need more of a sense of passion or feelings of some sort.

hangups are everywhere. i've been surrounded my entire life in a community where sex is nothing but pure evil unless its done in a marital bed and for procreation purposes only. "sex is bad, kinky stuff is evil." fark that noise. i like sex. give me messy, sweaty farking in every position imaginable. give me oral, give me anal, give me titty farking, i enjoy masturbating. i know my body very well and the 6 distinct orgasms that i can have and i am more than willing to show my partner each of them as he watches or puts his hands on mine and feels what i do. the best thing you can do for yourself and your lover is to know your own body and be a willing participant in bed.

/fark that article, communication is the key.

*sniff*

I think I love you :)

we should write a newsletter/book together. i think you are awesome!

LOL... My boyfriend often calls me his Hussy.

THAT would be a heck of a newsletter ;)

Peki: It's the waterworks. You guys get so weird when we cry, makes it very easy to turn things around, and we can easily play the victim. At least that's what I've seen.

Do you do this?

I don't. I don't know anyone who fake cries to manipulate.
Are there that many great actresses out there who can cry on demand?

FarkLiberty: Peki: It's the waterworks.

It's NOT the waterworks. I'm serious. No crying involved and the conversation still gets turned around to make us look like the bad guys.

So, like, the convo has "calmed down" and in ten minutes, like previously stated, it's turned into how much of a selfish asshole I/we are.

How does *THAT* work?

/maybe it's the threat of waterworks?
//dunno
///still asking
////SLASHIES!

Your being manipulated.

Stop that.

///No really, put a stop to it or your going to be miserable for the rest of your life.
///Sometimes peoples feeling get hurt becasue what your saying is true.

FarkLiberty: Peki: It's the waterworks.

It's NOT the waterworks. I'm serious. No crying involved and the conversation still gets turned around to make us look like the bad guys.

So, like, the convo has "calmed down" and in ten minutes, like previously stated, it's turned into how much of a selfish asshole I/we are.

How does *THAT* work?

/maybe it's the threat of waterworks?
//dunno
///still asking
////SLASHIES!

I'm not trying to be funny but, maybe you're a selfish asshole.
I mean if it's something you've heard several times...

Pinksprite: Peki: It's the waterworks. You guys get so weird when we cry, makes it very easy to turn things around, and we can easily play the victim. At least that's what I've seen.

Do you do this?

I don't. I don't know anyone who fake cries to manipulate.
Are there that many great actresses out there who can cry on demand?

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It may be a little off topic, but what you said is easily refuted.

Women seem to have no trouble crying when they call the police on the boyfriend they were through with 6 months ago. 99% of the time, it's complete opportunistic BS...and it happens a lot more than most will admit. Good luck finding a DA who will hold a proven liar accountable for their actions, though.

Need Help Soonish: You're,/b> being manipulated.

FTFY

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

But yeah. I know that. Dumped her ass. That shiat was not fun. And am not looking for more.

But I'm really more asking about the magician's trick. I know it's an illusion, I'm just curious as to how it works. Still don't quite get it.

Emotional manipulation, how does it work?

/paid for everything and she still had the gall to call me selfish