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(Baltimore Brew)   Ever wonder, "what would happen if the someone just wrote down whatever they wanted on the tip part of my credit card reciept?" Well, this former waitress did   (digtriad.com) divider line 197
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2011-07-29 10:33:06 PM
bridgit fonda waitress shares lottery ticket winnings with customer .jpeg/link/gif
 
2011-07-29 10:35:05 PM

100 Watt Walrus: jagec: jagec: woodchucker: If I tip in cash, I always write on the receipt "0.00" for the tip, and hand write the total down in the next line. Will this protect a person from such a thief (for you guys that know how that system works)

No, and here's why:

Let me try that again:
[img832.imageshack.us image 320x240]

/I guess 200kb ought to be enough for anyone, huh Drew?

Exactly.

Instead of writing $0.00 - which also makes it look like you're Mr. Pink - I write "on table" in the tip line on the receipt.

/I always tip in cash if I can


I just draw a dark line through the tip area. I don't care if I look like Mr Pink. I also do this at takeout places, where I don't tip
 
2011-07-29 10:35:12 PM
Bathia_Mapes: Her last name was "Proffitt" and you didn't work that into your headline, submitter?

If I wasn't so damn busy at work, I would have submitted this earlier with a better headline :P
 
2011-07-29 10:35:22 PM

Craptastic: davidphogan: the_sidewinder: davidphogan: I like to sign all kinds of crazy crap on CC slips. "Stolen Card", "Jack Ass", "Phil Herup", and other stupid shiat. I don't think anyone actually reads CC signatures anymore.

I did back when I was a cashier. I was both hated and loved for it. By the customers

/One guy had a wallet full of cards, no ID and none of the cards were signed. Not "were worn out" but brand new unsigned
//I didn't let him go through
///Management did
////I'm both bitter and meh about it
//CSB?

I was told that I had to tell the customer that I couldn't take an unsigned card and to give it back to them with a pen. That was what legal took the merchant agreement to mean, at least.

I printed "Please ask for ID" on the back of my card. I get asked about 75% of the time when I hand it over. Nobody has ever refused to process it.


When I was working at one place (same one I mentioned upthread) we were trained the sig had to match the card. I made a lot of people sign "CHECK ID" or similar.
 
2011-07-29 10:36:56 PM

davidphogan: I like to sign all kinds of crazy crap on CC slips. "Stolen Card", "Jack Ass", "Phil Herup", and other stupid shiat. I don't think anyone actually reads CC signatures anymore.


I draw a picture of a kitty going meow on the electronic ones. Sometimes the receipt printed has it on their too.
 
2011-07-29 10:37:43 PM

Rubberband Girl: And THAT'S why I write a big, fat X in the "tip" line if I'm not putting the tip on my card.

/Waitstaff tend to prefer cash.


Is there a reason for this? I've never split up the tip and payment... if I'm paying cash, I tip cash, and if I'm paying card, I tip card. But if there's a good reason I could change sometimes.

Is it the extra 3% processing fees or whatever it is?
 
2011-07-29 10:39:06 PM
My mom always taught me when writing a check or any amount of money to write a line ( ---------------------- ) before or after the amount, wherever it could be altered.

If I don't tip on card, I mark a deep line across that section of the receipt. It could still be altered, but it'd be horribly obvious.

Your Helpful Tip Of The Day
 
2011-07-29 10:39:27 PM

Craptastic: I printed "Please ask for ID" on the back of my card. I get asked about 75% of the time when I hand it over. Nobody has ever refused to process it.


Though technically they can. Not that I ever did. Never saw an ID that made me think "Fake" when they did that, so never really had the reason. And we have pretty good IDs

But now we are on the Chip and PIN, so no sig necessary

/Think of credit cards on self scans before that, scary
 
2011-07-29 10:39:50 PM

ThoughtSpy: T.M.S.: It kills me that if I don't tip at least 20 percent AFTER tax I'm going to be seen as cheap.

So when did tipping go from 15% to 20%? I know folks say prices have gone up...but it seems that 15% of the higher prices would cover that.

Not trying to troll here...I am curious.


I was always taught that tip was 15% for breakfast or lunch, and 20% for dinner(going up to 20% and 25% percent respectively for really great service)
 
2011-07-29 10:40:13 PM
I don't want her to look like that. Couldn't they arrest someone attractive?
 
2011-07-29 10:40:46 PM
I was horrified the first time I saw one of my coworkers at Dominos do this. Turns out, literally all the delivery drivers inflated their tips on the credit card slips because people don't check small purchases for accuracy.
 
2011-07-29 10:40:50 PM

Lsherm: Related CSB:

My wife and I were both waiters/bartenders in our younger years, but we're old professionals now. We have always left good tips, at least 20% of the after tax bill, no matter what. A month ago we got a quick bite to eat at a Red Robin before a movie (I had never been there before - pretty good burger for a chain). Our waitress was an absolute mess. She was new (the manager told us when we complained) and she was clearly overwhelmed by...everything. We were in a time crunch because the movie was starting soon, so after the burgers came out we told her to bring our check. We had 35 minutes.

After 25 minutes, two reminders to our waitress from me chasing her down, and one shout from my wife "CAN YOU PLEASE BRING US THE CHECK?" - we finally got the check. We couldn't wait for a card transaction because it would probably take longer than a day, so we left $60 in cash on a $38 tab because we figured this girl was having a bad day and probably wouldn't make it working tables. Then we left.

The manager caught us in the parking lot trying to give us back a 20 because he thought we farked up. When we told him he didn't, he wanted to run in and get us coupons for a free meal, but we didn't have time. I don't have any idea if that waitress got that 20 back, or if the manager actually meant it, but it doesn't matter because I'll probably never go back there again. Still, I will always tip well. Sometimes people have bad days.


You're right about one thing, for sure. Red Robin is one of the best chain burger joints there is.
 
2011-07-29 10:41:00 PM

evaned: Rubberband Girl: And THAT'S why I write a big, fat X in the "tip" line if I'm not putting the tip on my card.

/Waitstaff tend to prefer cash.

Is there a reason for this? I've never split up the tip and payment... if I'm paying cash, I tip cash, and if I'm paying card, I tip card. But if there's a good reason I could change sometimes.

Is it the extra 3% processing fees or whatever it is?


It's less of a hassle depending on how the place deals with card tips, and if the wait staff is less than honorable, easier to hide from the IRS.
 
2011-07-29 10:43:32 PM

lordargent: Bathia_Mapes: Her last name was "Proffitt" and you didn't work that into your headline, submitter?

If I wasn't so damn busy at work, I would have submitted this earlier with a better headline :P


If you had submitted it, it wouldn't have had all the misspellings either, and it would have made more sense. :-D
 
2011-07-29 10:46:57 PM
FTFH: Step 1: Every wonder, "what would happen if the someone just wrote down whatever they wanted on the tip part of my credit card reciept?" Step 2: Well, this former waitress did. Step 3: Proffitt!

Step 4: Arrest
 
2011-07-29 10:51:58 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Exactly.

Instead of writing $0.00 - which also makes it look like you're Mr. Pink - I write "on table" in the tip line on the receipt.

/I always tip in cash if I can


Same idea, though I tend to write "CASH."

/and any dollar amounts I write in begin with a big dollar sign.
 
2011-07-29 10:52:55 PM

BishopHatto: I don't want her to look like that. Couldn't they arrest someone attractive?


Seriously? She's well into the "above average" camp. I don't know about Los Angeles, but around here, she'd be a solid 7.
 
2011-07-29 10:53:54 PM

ThoughtSpy: T.M.S.: It kills me that if I don't tip at least 20 percent AFTER tax I'm going to be seen as cheap.

So when did tipping go from 15% to 20%? I know folks say prices have gone up...but it seems that 15% of the higher prices would cover that.

Not trying to troll here...I am curious.


When waiters became "servers".

Another thing that annoys me is that BIG FAT tip line on room service bills after they are already hosing you for a "hospitality change" and 18 percent gratuity.
 
2011-07-29 10:57:02 PM

Fark Me Runnin: hit


Came for this, leaving VERY satisfied.
 
2011-07-29 10:57:25 PM

evaned: Rubberband Girl: And THAT'S why I write a big, fat X in the "tip" line if I'm not putting the tip on my card.

/Waitstaff tend to prefer cash.

Is there a reason for this? I've never split up the tip and payment... if I'm paying cash, I tip cash, and if I'm paying card, I tip card. But if there's a good reason I could change sometimes.

Is it the extra 3% processing fees or whatever it is?


Taxes. If you tip on a card I have to claim the tip and pay taxes on it. With cash I can claim that I was stiffed and not pay taxes on it that way. Of course if my boss found out he'd fire me (he did it to others before).
 
2011-07-29 10:58:25 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: evaned: Rubberband Girl: And THAT'S why I write a big, fat X in the "tip" line if I'm not putting the tip on my card.

/Waitstaff tend to prefer cash.

Is there a reason for this? I've never split up the tip and payment... if I'm paying cash, I tip cash, and if I'm paying card, I tip card. But if there's a good reason I could change sometimes.

Is it the extra 3% processing fees or whatever it is?

It's less of a hassle depending on how the place deals with card tips, and if the wait staff is less than honorable, easier to hide from the IRS.


No. The real reason is that cash tips will never be reported by a server making less than $4/hr. All credit card tips are reported as income to the IRS. For the server, cards are always easier to deal with than cash. The fees for credit card transactions were covered before they even thought about how much a big "Grand Opening" sign would cost.
 
2011-07-29 11:00:24 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: evaned: Rubberband Girl: And THAT'S why I write a big, fat X in the "tip" line if I'm not putting the tip on my card.

/Waitstaff tend to prefer cash.

Is there a reason for this? I've never split up the tip and payment... if I'm paying cash, I tip cash, and if I'm paying card, I tip card. But if there's a good reason I could change sometimes.

Is it the extra 3% processing fees or whatever it is?

It's less of a hassle depending on how the place deals with card tips, and if the wait staff is less than honorable, easier to hide from the IRS.


Yeah, the two explanations I've heard from waitstaff are 1) cash makes it easier to cheat the country out of taxes by not reporting the tips to the IRS, and 2) cash makes it easier to cheat the other staff in the restaurant out of their shares when tipping out.

I like to pay small bills in cash when I can to avoid the credit card fees, but I've never heard a waitperson use that as a reason for preferring cash. It might be a reason some prefer it, but I haven't happened to hear it.
 
2011-07-29 11:01:14 PM
Back when I worked for tips if somebody pissed me off I wouldn't claim more of a tip, it just isn't worth it. A couple times I ran the card for less than the tip (usually when it was a $300 order and they gave me a massive three bucks). If I knew it was a debit card I'd run it for less, just to fark with the balance in their checkbook.
I did that maybe twice in 5 years.
 
2011-07-29 11:02:48 PM

John Buck 41: Bathia_Mapes: Her last name was "Proffitt" and you didn't work that into your headline, submitter?

Big-ass THIS.


OH! Where's my cliche?!?!

/Hey, dip-wads. Beaten to death does not equal funny.
Using a cliche, on the contrary, means that you're an unimaginative doof.
Getting upset and looking around the room like someone just moved your water dish when you don't get the cliche you expected is shameful and sad. You're what's wrong with the internet.
//Yes. "dip-wads" is hyphenated.
 
2011-07-29 11:03:41 PM
Boy, how could SHE not see this coming?
 
2011-07-29 11:04:58 PM
East Coast?
Randolph?
Proffitt?
a323.yahoofs.com
/Hot like a dolla...
 
2011-07-29 11:05:06 PM

shucherfase: John Buck 41: Bathia_Mapes: Her last name was "Proffitt" and you didn't work that into your headline, submitter?

Big-ass THIS.

OH! Where's my cliche?!?!


Psst. If the only way you can think of to work "Proffitt" into a headline is to use a cliche, that would suggest that you are the unimaginative one.
 
2011-07-29 11:07:32 PM

davidphogan: I like to sign all kinds of crazy crap on CC slips. "Stolen Card", "Jack Ass", "Phil Herup", and other stupid shiat. I don't think anyone actually reads CC signatures anymore.


Well, the person reconciling the next morning (that would have been me, when I was doing back office work at a restaurant) does; you're not the only person who does that, and I usually got a giggle. I wouldn't recommend anything vulgar or the stolen-card thing, though: that meant I had to call the bank to verify, who usually froze the card as a matter of policy, blah blah blah. Kind of a hassle for everyone all around.


I think a lot of customers would be shocked by how common this practice is. Two of our girls got away with adding hundreds of dollars of tips (it was also a cabaret, we did a lot of large groups who did a lot of drinking - a $1,500 bill with a $500 tip was not at all unusual) for two months before we caught up to them. (that was when I just started there, and ended up being the snitch who was asking innocent/awkward questions. Too bad.)


The easiest way to protect yourself is to give the tip in cash and draw a big X in the tip section. Otherwise, carry your own pen in a funny color (purple, red, green) and fill out the whole bill with it.


/ccs
 
2011-07-29 11:09:34 PM
THIS is why I make sure to write a big obvious line across the "tip" part of a CC receipt. Damn thing is a blank check for the total stranger to fill in whatever amount they feel like without any sort of electronic traces.

Yeah, I gave you a $500 tip for my $7 Jimmy John's, you pimply bastard! Right!
 
2011-07-29 11:09:35 PM
One more thing: biatching about a waiter now being called server. Would you rather be waited on or served? I mean, if there was ever a gender-neutral yet improves-customer-perception way to label a service job -- "server" is essentially perfect. Yet the biatching continues. Um, society just downgraded the status of a freaking waiter. You're still fine, you ass anus.

/not a waiter anymore promise
 
2011-07-29 11:15:51 PM

eatin' fetus: One more thing: biatching about a waiter now being called server. Would you rather be waited on or served? I mean, if there was ever a gender-neutral yet improves-customer-perception way to label a service job -- "server" is essentially perfect. Yet the biatching continues. Um, society just downgraded the status of a freaking waiter. You're still fine, you ass anus.

/not a waiter anymore promise


I'd rather be waited on, thanks.
 
2011-07-29 11:16:47 PM

T.M.S.: I'm filling out the bill right now.

It kills me that if I don't tip at least 20 percent AFTER tax I'm going to be seen as cheap.


After getting hosed in such a fashion by a waitress before (hence my previous post), I don't tip at all any longer and if the server is butthurt about it, well tough shee-ott! And I don't care if they don't like me either.

I'm not rich and need to make ends meet too.
 
2011-07-29 11:20:09 PM

Worst.Fark handle. ever.: T.M.S.: I'm filling out the bill right now.

It kills me that if I don't tip at least 20 percent AFTER tax I'm going to be seen as cheap.

After getting hosed in such a fashion by a waitress before (hence my previous post), I don't tip at all any longer and if the server is butthurt about it, well tough shee-ott! And I don't care if they don't like me either.

I'm not rich and need to make ends meet too.


0/10

/obvious is obvious
 
2011-07-29 11:20:52 PM
Can you put a negative amount for a tip, and then deduct that from your bill?

Seems like you should be able to do that.
 
2011-07-29 11:24:21 PM

Eshy: Worst.Fark handle. ever.: T.M.S.: I'm filling out the bill right now.

It kills me that if I don't tip at least 20 percent AFTER tax I'm going to be seen as cheap.

After getting hosed in such a fashion by a waitress before (hence my previous post), I don't tip at all any longer and if the server is butthurt about it, well tough shee-ott! And I don't care if they don't like me either.

I'm not rich and need to make ends meet too.

0/10

/obvious is obvious


In some states the bartenders get minimum wage like everyone else. If they get shiatty tips and can't survive, they're probably a shiatty bartender who should find a new shiatty minimum wage job.
 
2011-07-29 11:25:58 PM

davidphogan: Eshy: Worst.Fark handle. ever.: T.M.S.: I'm filling out the bill right now.

It kills me that if I don't tip at least 20 percent AFTER tax I'm going to be seen as cheap.

After getting hosed in such a fashion by a waitress before (hence my previous post), I don't tip at all any longer and if the server is butthurt about it, well tough shee-ott! And I don't care if they don't like me either.

I'm not rich and need to make ends meet too.

0/10

/obvious is obvious

In some states the bartenders get minimum wage like everyone else. If they get shiatty tips and can't survive, they're probably a shiatty bartender who should find a new shiatty minimum wage job.


What does that have anything to do with what he or I said?
 
2011-07-29 11:28:19 PM

desertmouse: SnakeLee: Bathia_Mapes: Her last name was "Proffitt" and you didn't work that into your headline, submitter?

And they managed to misspell "ever" at the same time

And they managed to misspell "receipt" at the same time.


If it hasn't already been said: They must have forgot the "except after c" part of the whole "i before e..." thing.

Glad she was never my waitress.
 
2011-07-29 11:29:52 PM

gadian: eatin' fetus: One more thing: biatching about a waiter now being called server. Would you rather be waited on or served? I mean, if there was ever a gender-neutral yet improves-customer-perception way to label a service job -- "server" is essentially perfect. Yet the biatching continues. Um, society just downgraded the status of a freaking waiter. You're still fine, you ass anus.

/not a waiter anymore promise

I'd rather be waited on, thanks.


You. Bastard.
 
2011-07-29 11:38:27 PM

gadian: I was horrified the first time I saw one of my coworkers at Dominos do this. Turns out, literally all the delivery drivers inflated their tips on the credit card slips because people don't check small purchases for accuracy.


I do, and only have had this happen to me once, for a similar transaction (pizza delivery). The idiot made my $7 on a $23.00 bill into $17. And since I filled it out entirely, I could see how he could easily add the one, but changing the 3 in 30 into 4 for 40 probably looked pretty bad, if they just didn't close it on their end and toss it when they were done. Probably figured I wouldn't call them on it.

The CC company asked for the slip and I guess it was modded so badly or they couldn't produce it, they totally reversed the charge. I don't know if they did anything to the place, all I know is it got credited back and was never reprocessed for the amount I originally indicated. I didn't even have to fill out a form which surprised me, I guess it would have went to that level had they produced it or it wasn't so obviously modded.

I put a line though the tip area if I leave cash. If I know I'm going to be on a trip or similar and stopping at places like that, I'll save some fives and ones and leave tips that way. Although it is technically illegal, I know if I leave cash they will likely take it tax free. But I figure that makes up for people who don't tip. I also don't blame the establishment for overpricing stuff to affect the tip-if its too pricy for me, you won't be finding me in the place anyway, honestly. But if you can look someone straight in the eye and put a fat goose-egg and not leave anything on the table, I guess you're tougher than me. I could never do that. But I will ignore a credit slip that only lists what 25% of the bill would be as a tip, also. I start at 15%, it will stay there if its poor or go down if its REALLY poor-and go to 25% or so for very good.

But I do retain my copies and I do compare also. Many people don't. Could be though that I own part of a business and thus some of it can be used on taxes, so I tend to look about 3 times at a tag before I think about discarding it, if I can't use it for that purpose.
 
2011-07-29 11:39:47 PM
I'll give her a tip...............Salad!
 
2011-07-29 11:40:10 PM
The only part about tips that upsets me is that people now expect them for nothing instead of trying to earn them.
 
2011-07-29 11:40:39 PM

davidphogan: I like to sign all kinds of crazy crap on CC slips. "Stolen Card", "Jack Ass", "Phil Herup", and other stupid shiat. I don't think anyone actually reads CC signatures anymore.


CSB:

Once my group of friends were out for dinner and it was one of those places where they don't let you split the check for whatever reason so they all payed me cash and I put the whole thing on my card. Because I was lazy I let my friend take my card up (good friend since back in grade school so he wouldn't do anything like steal from me) but he is a bit of a jackass and he wrote "I like penis" on the signature line. Waiter came back with a really odd look and demanded we fix it.
 
2011-07-29 11:40:46 PM

dickfreckle:

/ask me about my penis' cocktail skills


images3.makefive.com
/approves
//hotlinked

I always prefer to tip in cash, and like many others have said previously, tend to line or x out the Tip line on receipts.
 
2011-07-29 11:43:34 PM
I pay in cash. I'm always carrying at least a few $20's on me, and if I plan on spending more I make sure to have a fair wad with me.

Wanna know why? I don't had over my credit cards to be taken out of my sight.

Because of things like this.

www.tyner.com

That is a card reader. It stores up to 3000 numbers in its memory. It sells for under $300.

Hell, have a camera ready next to the CC machine and you could flash the front and back of a card for instant results. Crap like this is why gas station machines ask for your zip, but if you have a unique name a criminal might be clever enough to look you up and have a good idea where your zip is.

Guard your cards. Refuse or disable any RFID features. For regular use only carry low limit cards, and keep cards with high limits locked up. This will help thwart crime AND keep you from buying stupid expensive shiat without thinking it over.
 
2011-07-29 11:47:45 PM
Judy Proffitt, 26, was charged with seven counts of obtaining property by false pretenses.

Obtaining property by false pretenses? Can't they just call it theft or fraud?
 
2011-07-29 11:48:00 PM

wildcardjack: I pay in cash. I'm always carrying at least a few $20's on me, and if I plan on spending more I make sure to have a fair wad with me.

Wanna know why? I don't had over my credit cards to be taken out of my sight.

Because of things like this.

[www.tyner.com image 391x331]

That is a card reader. It stores up to 3000 numbers in its memory. It sells for under $300.

Hell, have a camera ready next to the CC machine and you could flash the front and back of a card for instant results. Crap like this is why gas station machines ask for your zip, but if you have a unique name a criminal might be clever enough to look you up and have a good idea where your zip is.

Guard your cards. Refuse or disable any RFID features. For regular use only carry low limit cards, and keep cards with high limits locked up. This will help thwart crime AND keep you from buying stupid expensive shiat without thinking it over.


way to be a paranoid fark. wah wah. dispute charges , report the activities, problem solved.
 
2011-07-29 11:49:05 PM
the other thing to note is that the merchant's processing bank (i.e. the bank that is responsible for submitting the merchant's transactions for payment) generally have a flagging system that will make a note of (or in some cases outright deny) transactions where the tip amount exceeds a certain percent of the bill.
 
2011-07-29 11:50:45 PM

wildcardjack: I pay in cash. I'm always carrying at least a few $20's on me, and if I plan on spending more I make sure to have a fair wad with me.


And if that cash is lost or stolen it's gone for good. Whereas a fraudulent charge on a credit card can be disputed and resolved.
 
2011-07-29 11:51:39 PM

Be Well: The CC company asked for the slip and I guess it was modded so badly or they couldn't produce it, they totally reversed the charge. I don't know if they did anything to the place, all I know is it got credited back and was never reprocessed for the amount I originally indicated. I didn't even have to fill out a form which surprised me, I guess it would have went to that level had they produced it or it wasn't so obviously modded.


It's pathetically easy to dispute charges on CC's nowadays. When I log into my AmEx account online, there's damn button next to my past transactions I can simply click to "contest", and I think most large merchants like pizza chains are not going to fight over individual $20 transactions.

/that "thing" you signed up for a year's about 14 months ago that's now hitting you with monthly recurring charges and you don't even remember what the hell it is? Don't pour through your emails to find out how to cancel according their policy, just dispute it.
 
2011-07-29 11:52:43 PM

Killer Cars: /that "thing" you signed up for a year's use about 14 months ago


FTFM

/files dispute with the grammar police
 
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