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2011-07-26 07:55:03 PM  
Once is being a dumbass, twice is being a double dumbass. Three times? That's Darwin calling.
 
2011-07-26 10:25:01 PM  
Meh. The response times get longer and longer.....
 
2011-07-26 10:30:58 PM  
I can see Rocky Mountain National Park from my window.. so I'm getting a kick...
 
2011-07-26 10:32:45 PM  

santadog: I can see Rocky Mountain National Park from my window.. so I'm getting a kick...


I might be able to see you from my window, and I'm getting a kick, too. What's up with all the morans getting stuck in the backcountry this year?
 
2011-07-26 10:35:03 PM  

walkerhound: santadog: I can see Rocky Mountain National Park from my window.. so I'm getting a kick...

I might be able to see you from my window, and I'm getting a kick, too. What's up with all the morans getting stuck in the backcountry this year?


I don't know.. I've been too busy dealing with a bunch of them keep wrecking my scooters.
 
2011-07-26 10:36:15 PM  
walkerhound:
South of the Fort... I'm in Estes Park.
 
2011-07-26 10:38:21 PM  

santadog: walkerhound:
South of the Fort... I'm in Estes Park.


Right, you'd be very small, but I still might be able to see you ;)
 
2011-07-26 10:40:21 PM  

walkerhound: santadog: I can see Rocky Mountain National Park from my window.. so I'm getting a kick...

I might be able to see you from my window, and I'm getting a kick, too. What's up with all the morans getting stuck in the backcountry this year?


Must be a year starting in 2.
 
2011-07-26 10:47:24 PM  

santadog: walkerhound:
South of the Fort... I'm in Estes Park.


I visited Estes Park while in Colorado this summer. We took a route entering from the south part of the park and exited from the east end. Unfortunately, it was a pretty cloudy day so we ended up getting lost in the clouds/fog for awhile* and missed out in being able to see the view from the higher parts of the mountains. Still really beautiful nonetheless.

*was not stupid or lost enough to have had to call rescue officers for help though
 
2011-07-26 10:50:56 PM  
You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?
 
2011-07-26 10:52:38 PM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: santadog: walkerhound:
South of the Fort... I'm in Estes Park.

I visited Estes Park while in Colorado this summer. We took a route entering from the south part of the park and exited from the east end. Unfortunately, it was a pretty cloudy day so we ended up getting lost in the clouds/fog for awhile* and missed out in being able to see the view from the higher parts of the mountains. Still really beautiful nonetheless.

*was not stupid or lost enough to have had to call rescue officers for help though


I always feel bad for my customers who are here on those kinda days. Next time you come up, come see me! (new window)
 
2011-07-26 11:08:42 PM  

santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?


I love the idiots who go "people HUNT out here?" No, we drive into Denver and hunt on 16th Street Mall. Last year we bagged a pink cow statue, this year I'm hoping for a yellow piano.
 
2011-07-26 11:16:24 PM  

LaraAmber: I love the idiots who go "people HUNT out here?" No, we drive into Denver and hunt on 16th Street Mall. Last year we bagged a pink cow statue, this year I'm hoping for a yellow piano.


I took a homeless hippie on Pearl Street last fall. Not very tender and had a bad smell to it.
 
2011-07-26 11:20:31 PM  
When I was in the Coast Guard (Jobs that matter) I helped coordinate the return of a windsurfer and his gear to shore. Once he was back on land (with his gear) he told me
"Wow, this is the 5th or 6th time you guys have helped me out this year"
If I he had told me this before he was picked up I would have worked out a way for his gear to still be drifting out there.

/I was on the phone with him.
//Land guy, not a boat driver.
 
2011-07-26 11:22:55 PM  
He's really bad at skiing.
 
2011-07-26 11:28:52 PM  

santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?

Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?


This doesn't surprise me at all. I've heard people say the exact same thing when I was growing up in a rural area. I wonder how long they'd been waiting, because there were plenty of deer around but no elk.

I've lived in cities since then and I've known a few people who think that mice are baby rats. These are adults, mostly professionals who went to good universities.
 
2011-07-26 11:35:36 PM  

louiedog: santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?

This doesn't surprise me at all. I've heard people say the exact same thing when I was growing up in a rural area. I wonder how long they'd been waiting, because there were plenty of deer around but no elk.

I've lived in cities since then and I've known a few people who think that mice are baby rats. These are adults, mostly professionals who went to good universities.


...and unfortunately, they also vote.
"Oooooooh! That's a cool poster! I think I'll vote for him!
 
2011-07-26 11:35:58 PM  

louiedog: santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?

This doesn't surprise me at all. I've heard people say the exact same thing when I was growing up in a rural area. I wonder how long they'd been waiting, because there were plenty of deer around but no elk.

I've lived in cities since then and I've known a few people who think that mice are baby rats. These are adults, mostly professionals who went to good universities.


Well? I still don't have an answer!
 
2011-07-26 11:38:38 PM  
Before I read the article, I was expecting the guy to set off a plb because he ran out of water or was tired, something stupid like that, but hey at least he was really injured. Could have just been a run of bad luck.

/still not very smart being that age and hiking/climbing alone.
 
2011-07-26 11:45:35 PM  

louiedog: santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?

This doesn't surprise me at all. I've heard people say the exact same thing when I was growing up in a rural area. I wonder how long they'd been waiting, because there were plenty of deer around but no elk.

I've lived in cities since then and I've known a few people who think that mice are baby rats. These are adults, mostly professionals who went to good universities.


CJ: Man, my Aunt Sheneequa got evicted.

Mahalik: What for?

CJ: Mice.

Mahalik: I thought she had rats.

CJ: No man, mice are inside, rats are outside.

Mahalik: Wait... so if a mouse goes outside, does it turn into a rat? And if a rat goes inside a house, is it a mouse?

CJ: Man, I've never seen no mouse outside.

Mahalik: Thats because it's a rat, fool!

CJ: Damn. That's some quantum shiat!
 
2011-07-26 11:50:14 PM  

santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?


Yosemite classics include:

When do they bring in the deer and release the bears?
What time do they turn on/off the falls?
What time do they turn on the sunset?
 
2011-07-27 12:31:21 AM  

walkerhound: LaraAmber: I love the idiots who go "people HUNT out here?" No, we drive into Denver and hunt on 16th Street Mall. Last year we bagged a pink cow statue, this year I'm hoping for a yellow piano.

I took a homeless hippie on Pearl Street last fall. Not very tender and had a bad smell to it.


I hope you had it checked for CDC (and herpes, and crabs, and fleas).
 
2011-07-27 12:31:26 AM  

ByOwlLight: santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?

Yosemite classics include:

When do they bring in the deer and release the bears?
What time do they turn on/off the falls?
What time do they turn on the sunset?


Well to be fair on that second one they DO basically shut off Niagara Falls at night, something like 95% of the flow is diverted to the power stations between 11pm and 7am I believe.
 
2011-07-27 12:34:23 AM  
I'm not really sure how I feel about this.

You could be in top notch shape and take one wrong step and need assistance. I've known some pretty intense outdoors type people here in Colorado and pretty much everyone of them has a story where they were off on some trail somewhere, doing exactly what they always do when X happened and either had to call in the rangers or have some friends carry them out or do something ridiculous.

If he's a sickly old man or ill prepared or something; then yeah - he's a d-bag. But if he's an active person who regularly does 15-25 mile hikes and packs the appropriate gear; I think it's possible he's had some bad luck. And that's just part of the risk you take when you go outside of a city.

//CSB....
//Used to run competitively in high school. Would do 8 miles at an 8 mile per hour pace like it was nothing. I was supposed to go on a 4 mile nature hike with my very new girlfriend and her family; got less than 2/10ths of a mile in, took a bad step, severely rolled my ankle. Horribly painful, horrible embarrassing.
 
2011-07-27 01:05:11 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm not really sure how I feel about this.

You could be in top notch shape and take one wrong step and need assistance. I've known some pretty intense outdoors type people here in Colorado and pretty much everyone of them has a story where they were off on some trail somewhere, doing exactly what they always do when X happened and either had to call in the rangers or have some friends carry them out or do something ridiculous.

If he's a sickly old man or ill prepared or something; then yeah - he's a d-bag. But if he's an active person who regularly does 15-25 mile hikes and packs the appropriate gear; I think it's possible he's had some bad luck. And that's just part of the risk you take when you go outside of a city.

//CSB....
//Used to run competitively in high school. Would do 8 miles at an 8 mile per hour pace like it was nothing. I was supposed to go on a 4 mile nature hike with my very new girlfriend and her family; got less than 2/10ths of a mile in, took a bad step, severely rolled my ankle. Horribly painful, horrible embarrassing.


I notice that the Forest Service was careful to note that under the right circumstances, they certainly will consider charging people for the price of the rescue. If this guy was prepared and just slipped off a well-marked trail, then sure, that's what the park rangers are there for. It's when morons decide Hey! we can go outside the park boundaries even though we don't have any equipment, it's nearly 6 p.m. and nobody knows where we are! We'll only be an hour or so, what can go wrong?

Basically the circs of one of my searches. We found them about 36 hours later, headed the wrong direction. Dummies.
 
2011-07-27 01:10:24 AM  
Sounds like bad luck but not really negligence. I'll be hiking in RMNP in a couple weeks with some friends... you do your best to prepare, buy your corsar card, make sure everyone has some good rope and first aid training... and still, sometimes rockslides, avalanches, and other random stuff (cougar or bear attacks) just happen. Fortunately, here in CO, there's also more of a caveat emptor mentality about the outdoors... when you go into the mountains, it is assumed that you are aware mother nature is kind of a biatch who just might kill you at some random time... whether backcountry boarding or just hiking, there's no liability for anyone if you get hurt... you might get rescued if you're lucky, but if you go out there without some plan for how to rescue yourself or have some friends with you who are competent... well, best of luck to ya, but if you die, nobody's going to be particularly sorry for you.
 
2011-07-27 01:36:14 AM  
Alert all commands. Calculate every possible destination along their last
known trajectory.
 
2011-07-27 01:36:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Fark_Guy_Rob: I'm not really sure how I feel about this.

You could be in top notch shape and take one wrong step and need assistance. I've known some pretty intense outdoors type people here in Colorado and pretty much everyone of them has a story where they were off on some trail somewhere, doing exactly what they always do when X happened and either had to call in the rangers or have some friends carry them out or do something ridiculous.

If he's a sickly old man or ill prepared or something; then yeah - he's a d-bag. But if he's an active person who regularly does 15-25 mile hikes and packs the appropriate gear; I think it's possible he's had some bad luck. And that's just part of the risk you take when you go outside of a city.

//CSB....
//Used to run competitively in high school. Would do 8 miles at an 8 mile per hour pace like it was nothing. I was supposed to go on a 4 mile nature hike with my very new girlfriend and her family; got less than 2/10ths of a mile in, took a bad step, severely rolled my ankle. Horribly painful, horrible embarrassing.

I notice that the Forest Service was careful to note that under the right circumstances, they certainly will consider charging people for the price of the rescue. If this guy was prepared and just slipped off a well-marked trail, then sure, that's what the park rangers are there for. It's when morons decide Hey! we can go outside the park boundaries even though we don't have any equipment, it's nearly 6 p.m. and nobody knows where we are! We'll only be an hour or so, what can go wrong?

Basically the circs of one of my searches. We found them about 36 hours later, headed the wrong direction. Dummies.


Ya, if you're negligent or don't follow the rules, they can (and will) bill your ass for bailing you out... when they have the signs that say "don't go past this point" or "stay on the trail" and you go off the trail, you need to keep in mind that either a) they will come and save your ass at a really steep price, helicopters aren't cheap, or b) they may (and in the winter occasionally do) say that it's too dangerous to attempt a rescue... so you're pretty much screwed.
 
2011-07-27 01:38:16 AM  

santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?


Do you have running water?

What does moose taste like?
 
2011-07-27 02:03:26 AM  

fracas: louiedog: santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?

This doesn't surprise me at all. I've heard people say the exact same thing when I was growing up in a rural area. I wonder how long they'd been waiting, because there were plenty of deer around but no elk.

I've lived in cities since then and I've known a few people who think that mice are baby rats. These are adults, mostly professionals who went to good universities.

Well? I still don't have an answer!


The Sixth Sunday in September. That's also when the initiation rites are held. Meet me at the northernmost entrance to Yellowstone at 7:06 PM and I'll let you watch. You can join the following year if you desire. I'll be easy to recognize, I'll be the one who isn't there in just his long underwear and flip-flops.
 
kth
2011-07-27 08:49:41 AM  

santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?


The big question is: when do the Elk turn into moose?

We drove by your shop last week, but we had sufficient transportation and did not need a scooter. Sorry.

We were following this rescue on the scanner (and the one that morning, where a kid from Wichita was pulled off the boulderfield). That evening we went to the astronomy ranger program, and could see the headlamps from UBM.

/new word of the week: Elk Jam, the traffic jam that ensues when idiots stop in the road to take pictures of wildlife that will be outside their window at dusk.
//we saw our first bear this year, and a moose, but still never a bighorn sheep.
 
2011-07-27 09:19:24 AM  

kth: santadog: You don't have to be a hiker to be a dumbass. Here are some top notch questions I get each and every season:

When do the Deer turn into Elk?
Is that sand on top of the mountains? How do they get it up there?
What time do they release the wildlife?

The big question is: when do the Elk turn into moose?

We drove by your shop last week, but we had sufficient transportation and did not need a scooter. Sorry.

We were following this rescue on the scanner (and the one that morning, where a kid from Wichita was pulled off the boulderfield). That evening we went to the astronomy ranger program, and could see the headlamps from UBM.

/new word of the week: Elk Jam, the traffic jam that ensues when idiots stop in the road to take pictures of wildlife that will be outside their window at dusk.
//we saw our first bear this year, and a moose, but still never a bighorn sheep.


You're driving the wrong roads.

But if you're very nice to me I'll let you hold my beanie big horn sheep in a Division of Wildlife shirt. He lives on my work desk.
 
2011-07-27 10:07:08 AM  
We spent a week in Estes Park & vicinity last month, and did some hiking in RMNP.......but it never would have even occurred to us to go up Longs Peak, given that we rarely hike, and even more rarely above 10K ft.
 
2011-07-27 03:33:14 PM  
We'll be in Estes in 2 weeks. We'd like to attempt Long's Peak someday, but our 8 year old will be with us so certainly not this time. Plus, we're from Florida so despite being big hikers here, we''d probably end up like this guy.

Santadog: I may check your shop out. The Ruckus has me intrigued.
 
kth
2011-07-27 08:03:38 PM  

LaraAmber: You're driving the wrong roads.

But if you're very nice to me I'll let you hold my beanie big horn sheep in a Division of Wildlife shirt. He lives on my work desk.


We did trail ridge, but still no joy.

Oh well. Something to look for next year (we go every year). Fingers are crossed, my parents are edging ever closer to buying a place out there. They have a realtor and a budget now instead of vague thoughts about what might be nice. I suspect in two or three years we'll have a year round place out there to visit. YAY.
 
2011-07-28 12:30:18 AM  
I volunteer in RMNP, so I'm getting a kick....
 
2011-07-29 09:44:50 AM  

TheRidingLibrarian: We'll be in Estes in 2 weeks. We'd like to attempt Long's Peak someday, but our 8 year old will be with us so certainly not this time. Plus, we're from Florida so despite being big hikers here, we'd probably end up like this guy.

Santadog: I may check your shop out. The Ruckus has me intrigued.


Bring that Class M, and I'll happily rent to you!

Drink lots of water before you come up. HYDRATE OR DIE!
 
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