BreezyWheeze: PillsHere: List of every fashionable disorder stupid people have been claiming to justify their stupidity over the past 30 years

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. 10/10. Would LOL again.

/although if you're not trolling, STFU you whiny little whore. The conversation begins and ends with the sentence, "my family has money".

Thanks, but I forgot to mention my depression and anxiety disorder. It was the icing on my pathetic cake :P. Maybe I should just go with bipolar disorder though!

PillsHere: BreezyWheeze: PillsHere: List of every fashionable disorder stupid people have been claiming to justify their stupidity over the past 30 years

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. 10/10. Would LOL again.

/although if you're not trolling, STFU you whiny little whore. The conversation begins and ends with the sentence, "my family has money".

Thanks, but I forgot to mention my depression and anxiety disorder. It was the icing on my pathetic cake :P. Maybe I should just go with bipolar disorder though!

Avoidant Personality Disorder is a good one if nothing else.

Peki: If I'm angry, I'm angry at the people who assume that just because I'm unemployed and looking for employment and don't have it means I'm lazy.

Let me point out that one isn't entirely dependent on other people for one's success. Several times in my life I've decided that things sucked and that I needed a new career, and I took a line from Malloy's *Dress for Success* books from the '70s--Don't dress like the job you have, dress like the job you want--and applied it to my CV.

Back in 1990 I realized that my employment situation sucked and that it might be fun to be a professor. I looked at what employers of professors were looking for (teaching experience, publishing history, and committee work) and did my best to get those sorts of things on my CV. For example, before I started grad school I taught adult ed courses at night after work. They didn't pay much, but I was doing it for that extra line on my CV to show that I had teaching experience. A year later those courses were enough experience to get me a TA job at my university when I started grad school which not only gave me a small stipend, but also free tuition and another line on the ol' CV. I had also served on a couple of low-level government committees as a citizen representative that were pointless and didn't pay anything, but again, they showed that I had the ability to do that sort of thing and the initiative to join things. You see how it works? Think of a specific goal and then take baby steps to show people that you're serious about getting there.

We know you want to be a mechanic. Where on your resume does it say that you've been working on your own cars and those of your friends and family for years, even when you've had those short-term jobs to pay the bills? How many of those Chilton guides have you read in your own time? Which automotive blogs do you read? If you really had a history of being interested in cars and fixing them I should see this kind of thing leap off the page through things you've done even if you weren't paid for them. Find a friend who wants some free work done and do it. Maybe blog about it. Maybe do a comparison of different techniques of doing things across cars to show that you're really thinking about being a mechanic and all it entails as opposed to just sort of falling into it because, well, it seems like steady work and it only requires an AA.

I understand your plight, but there's almost always a way that you can demonstrate on a resume that you're serious about becoming whatever it is you want to be. Stop whinging about where you are and make steps toward where you want to be.

Wow, there's been some acrimony in this thread since I last checked in. Peki, keep trying different things until something works. Simple concept, difficult to implement. Good luck, and I wish you well. I know damn well it isn't easy to get a job these days, even here in Texas where we have pretty good job creation recently and low unemployment.

jgi: pheed: jgi: You wanna do something cool and make money? Go to Antarctica and work. Application season is upon us, it's all expenses paid if you get the job, and you can work 4-6 months and most likely make a year's salary.

Here you go: Raytheon Polar Services

I've actually done it. After 7 years in Apple retail, I decided to do something I'd always wanted. I worked for 6 months as a computer tech from August 09 to Feb 2010. It was one of the greatest experiences of my life.

If you could elaborate on your experience, I'd appreciate it. It's something I've wanted to do for a while, also doing IT type work, so any insight, ups and downs, advice you could give would be most welcome.

The application experience was a while back, so I can't recall it in detail. What I can recall is that it was easy. They were looking for a Macintosh technician and I had several years of experience in addition to some team leadership experience. Joe Harrigan was ultimately the manager that hired me. He was fantastic and easy-going. I worked under August Stoten while there - equally easy going. The roommate situation was a little odd. First timers get automatically stuck in the main building with THREE other roommates. Those roommates might very well be nothing like yourself which makes socializing a little odd. There are some real rough-neck types down there. I advise finding friends that you get along well with and spending time with them. I'm not sure if there's a way around that housing assignment, but if you can find it, go for it. I also advise spending as much time doing activities and recreation as your body and temperament will allow. Get out, see as much as you can, take lots of photos, have fun and meet people. My impression of the contract process is that once you have your foot in the door, you can re-apply (and be re-accepted) every year if you wish. Unless you really screw up, the job is yours if you want it. In my case, I have a family and while I might have been able to be away from them for six months, I couldn't do it every year.

PunkRockLawyer: GiantPeon: DarthBrooks: Nobody's hiring. Uh-huh.

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Got a degree? Be an officer. Stop mooching off your parents.

Oh, but there's a party at Amber's house so you're busy this week, right?

How about this job:

Need able man or woman to assist mining company secure sales.
Must be willing to commit murder to achieve objectives.
Must be willing to work nights and weekends with no overtime pay.
Must be willing to die in order to meet company objectives.
Work is on a contract basis with a pre-set period.
The boss has absolute authority. Quitting is not tolerated and may result with detention in "company jail".
The boss may, on occasion, require you to wash his car (or shine boots) during lunch hour (or at three in the morning).
...

Show this list to some kids, and they will say: "You had me at murder".

But the reality is that the military encapsulates everything that is evil about man and society. We should use it wisely, and only when there is imminent threat of homeland invasion. To use it to secure others resources for your own benefit is an indication of a corrupt and systematically evil society (yea, I'm talking to you!). And the fat cats that are getting rich off of this are the worst, because they should know better. They are societies elders who have a major influence on how the world is run, and this is what they choose.

And I feel sorry for the naive kids (and their naive families) who sign up for war only to return damaged (or not at all) realizing it was all a lie. YOU ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR THE PROTECTION OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY. YOU ARE RAPING AND PILLAGING SO THAT OUR SOCIETY CAN ENJOY THE SPOILS OF WAR. We haven't evolved much and are like the vikings before us.

So yea, tell your kids that the military is a fools game meant to make someone else rich on your back. Its basically cheap organized slave labor. And be sure to ask them the question: "Do you really want to kill somebody?". Do you think its OK because someone else says its OK? And if they answer "yes", you have probably failed as a parent. And, hopefully, if enough answer "no" and decide to not participate, well..., that's the first step towards stopping this insanity.

The military needs to drastically change its ways before I suggest it as a career path for my sons. It should basically be 95% reserve that is never called upon unless circumstances warrant, and in that case god help us all.

Came here to say this, thank you. The current US military is not a job option that would be considered by people of good morals and normal intelligence.

Thanks for lumping all military into your paradigm. I guess I have good morals and substandard intelligence. I'm about to retire from the Navy as a mediocre ranked enlisted man (E-6, but still hoping for E-7 this year). I'm living in Japan in a 1000 square foot house in a beach town about 30 minutes south of Yokohama. I'm making close to $90,000 this year while still being able to claim my home state of Florida (no state tax). I've got a great clearance and I do sysadmin on Solaris Blade Servers as well as a 2003 domain with 2k workstation environment.

I'll be 38 with 20 years of sysadmin experience starting from DOS, holding a top level clearance, making at least 20k in retirement each year starting soon. I'll also have Tricare medical coverage on the cheap for myself and my family. I'm also going to benefit from the 100K college benefit (72k in housing over 3 years, plus tuition, and 3k in book money) that was passed for post 9/11 GI bill.

Could I be better off if I had never joined the military? It's possible. The deployments definitely sucked and it's contributed to why I'm still single. But I definitely could be worse.

Good morals? Really? What makes you say that?

I meant bad morals...and I guess this means I do have substandard intelligence. :p

dougpr: I guess this means I do have substandard intelligence.

Well, you are on Fark.

Peki: Major was English, minor in Women's Studies (don't knock it; I actually think my time in that program was more valuable than most of the other classes I took, because they taught me to think).

List the major and minor, and only list the date received. What is the issue with relocation?

dougpr: Thanks for lumping all military into your paradigm. I guess I have good morals and substandard intelligence. I'm about to retire from the Navy as a mediocre ranked enlisted man (E-6, but still hoping for E-7 this year). I'm living in Japan in a 1000 square foot house in a beach town about 30 minutes south of Yokohama. I'm making close to $90,000 this year while still being able to claim my home state of Florida (no state tax). I've got a great clearance and I do sysadmin on Solaris Blade Servers as well as a 2003 domain with 2k workstation environment.

I'll be 38 with 20 years of sysadmin experience starting from DOS, holding a top level clearance, making at least 20k in retirement each year starting soon. I'll also have Tricare medical coverage on the cheap for myself and my family. I'm also going to benefit from the 100K college benefit (72k in housing over 3 years, plus tuition, and 3k in book money) that was passed for post 9/11 GI bill.

Could I be better off if I had never joined the military? It's possible. The deployments definitely sucked and it's contributed to why I'm still single. But I definitely could be worse.

Good morals? Really? What makes you say that?

Your entire post is about the money you've made from the military. A military which, at least in its current state, exists for protecting the interests of politicians and filthy-rich sociopaths even if it means killing untold numbers of innocent civilians and gullible soldiers. Even if you're not directly killing people, you're supporting that system. Based on your post, the only factor you're considering is your own financial interests, which is the very definition of immorality.

"Your entire post is about the money you've made from the military. A military which, at least in its current state, exists for protecting the interests of politicians and filthy-rich sociopaths office workers, firefighters, and average Joes even if it means killing untold numbers of innocent civilians and gullible soldiers terrorists."

FIFY.

Peki: DingleberryMoose: Peki: Major was English, minor in Women's Studies (don't knock it; I actually think my time in that program was more valuable than most of the other classes I took, because they taught me to think).

List the major and minor, and only list the date received. What is the issue with relocation?

Family issues tie me here. There is a mortgage on a house that I have to keep an eye on, otherwise me, my mom, and my stepdad end up homeless. There's more as well, but that's the big one.

Same reason we stay here in Podunk, West Texas. Wife's mother is diabetic and needs a bit of care. I really can't offer much help, other than taking the start date of your education off your resume and putting your major on it, but I wish you well.

Peki: The military isn't the greatest, but it's not evil either. It's a tool; it's the person who wields the tool who decides if it's towards good or evil.

Kinda like a gun, or a knife, or a baseball bat, huh? I like you more and more the more I of your posts I read.

Peki: Dressing nice is great idea - if you have the money to buy the clothes. I'm going on my 5th year on some shirts and pants because I have no money for clothing. My last pair of shoes my in-laws bought me, and they got chewed up in six months. The little clothing I have (two-three weeks worth of shirts, underwear, and socks, three pairs of jeans, two sets of coveralls) got wrecked because I didn't have the money to buy the coveralls before I started the automotive program, so many of what would have passed as nice clothing now has grease stains and whatnot.

The poverty trap sucks. You can't get a job without nice clothes, but you can't get the clean clothes without money. You can't get a job without being clean, but if you're homeless you may not have access to a shower. You can't get a job without work experience, but you can't get the work experience until you get a job.


Czar?

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: My parents had pressured me into going to college

Not a problem

also. I racked up $100,000 in debt and

Problem

had a hell of a time finding a job afterwards.

Most of us did

Peki: The lady indicated at one point she would have me start tomorrow if she could; I think that opinion held until the end of the interview, but it is possible I farked it at some point. I made a few snowflake mistakes that I recognized as I was making them, so a good lesson for the next one.

If you don't get that job, ask to speak to the person who interviewed you and use their input to hone your interview skills.

Peki: Unreasonable to be a little annoyed at the manager for not at least extending the courtesy to pop his head in and say "Hey, I really appreciate your patience and waiting for me, I just don't have the time today"??? Or are we back to the situation I described earlier, which is the manager doesn't actually want to see you or have anything to do with you unless you're a customer or his boss?

I'd bet the snub is largely due to someone in HR having a God complex, they tend to do that. I've been in his situation, I can relate. More than likely, the manager will make arrangements to meet you when he's got time to do it properly. Take advantage, and good luck.

larryhagman's liver: Build up a client base? Advertising which is time consuming/costly? For a neighborhood lawn cutting service? You are definitely CEO material and should hold out for just such a position.

I'm not talking about creating a growing Fortune 500 Law Cutting empire. She is worried about making an extra $100 a month, which can easily be accomplished given she puts forth the effort.

Since when is going door to door and dropping off flyers or knocking on someone's door time costly, as flyers are so expensive at mere pennies per copy?

Last week, we had a guy around doing exactly that.. Knocked on the door "Hi, I'm an out of work electrician. Do you need your lawn cut?"
30ish, beat little Nissan pickup, lawnmower and other stuff in the back.

My first thought was [out of work electrician? You can't be very good]
Anyway...I said "hmmm...How much?"

$20 for the whole front yard."
'OK, deal'

He got his lawnmower out of the truck, and did it. Offered him water and/or a beer. He had his own.
I gave him $25 because it was hot out. 45-60 minutes.

Later, I saw him down the street doing someone elses yard.

So, after expenses and cruising time, he's prob getting $15/hour on a slack Saturday.
If he comes around this neighborhood again, I'd let him do it again.